Running into time wasters this cycle. I've been out for 6 months or so but this is a bit ridiculous. Never had so many convos that went to text go nowhere. Hopefully just a streak of bad luck.
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Running into time wasters this cycle. I've been out for 6 months or so but this is a bit ridiculous. Never had so many convos that went to text go nowhere. Hopefully just a streak of bad luck.
So I had a M&G lunch today with a former BP girl now giving it a go as a Sugar Baby. I treated her as any POT as though I did not know her past. Thanks to Facebook, I was able to see what her current situation in life was. Over lunch she was the typical recent college grad working two part time jobs until she found the job she really wanted. Her personal life details matched up to what I had found on FB. Surprisingly she didn't come across as a working girl looking to hook up. In fact I am not so sure if she even liked me as she stayed out of range for the typical thanks for lunch hug goodbye. A pleasant enough m&g but I have had from non utr girls better vibes that more was up for grabs. I do not think I will follow up anymore with her. Talked too much about herself and only asked one question about my life.
I have been out the game for about five years. I decided to give SA a try. I signed up last week, but no luck so far. Any suggestions for me? I was able to verify a few girls on FB by phone #. We start texting, but as soon as I mention meeting up in a public place they vanish or take almost 24 hours to reply. One girl asked for 3 k to 7 k a month right off the bat. I told her there is no way I am doing that of course.
[QUOTE=Demond36;3309150]I have been out the game for about five years. I decided to give SA a try. I signed up last week, but no luck so far. Any suggestions for me? I was able to verify a few girls on FB by phone #. We start texting, but as soon as I mention meeting up in a public place they vanish or take almost 24 hours to reply. One girl asked for 3 k to 7 k a month right off the bat. I told her there is no way I am doing that of course.[/QUOTE]Being an experienced SD (I presume that's what you meant, and not just mongering) and experienced on SA aren't the same thing. It is a numbers game. You can't get discouraged, you will get many people who aren't serious, or who don't know yet they aren't really cut out for it, those who are really pros, etc. Think needle in a haystack. Spend a couple of days reading this thread back a while, and read the highlights thread as well, which has much SA-specific info.
[QUOTE=Xenpar;3308698]Running into time wasters this cycle. I've been out for 6 months or so but this is a bit ridiculous. Never had so many convos that went to text go nowhere. Hopefully just a streak of bad luck.[/QUOTE]Same here. In the past I've been able to set up M&G's with a dozen or so POTs with a one month membership pretty easily, but this time I'm getting a lot of that same thing, where conversations end up going nowhere. Maybe it's something about this time of year. Post-Valentine's bitterness?
I too did a one month membership, made several contacts that went no where, (GPS), but did find a few milfs, that turned up a couple of trips to the FC. Still working on some, but have to be discreet with time and $ so SO doesn't get suspicious.
Have to be in Richmond next week for work and wondered if it would be worth my time to contact this one for a quick FC visit? Tried searching TFF but found nothing under andlove.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cbf16ea4-610d-4eeb-adbc-b775a244acbe[/URL]
[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3310213]Have to be in Richmond next week for work and wondered if it would be worth my time to contact this one for a quick FC visit? Tried searching TFF but found nothing under andlove.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cbf16ea4-610d-4eeb-adbc-b775a244acbe[/URL][/QUOTE]I did try a month ago but didn't get reply from her. So didn't followup. Hope you get to connect with her.
Excuse me gentleman for maybe engaging in conversations that I may have no experience. I've been an observer of this forumn from time to time and can't help but think a provider I tend to review often in one of the other forumns would fill the shoes of some of these sugarbabies you guys seek fairly well and easily. Unless the "baby" aspect of the position is defined by age then my suggestion is an automatic disqualification.
Suzee started out on SA. I'm not sure how she became a popular UTR instead. But, at 40 yo, it seems to me that she could wear the hat of a SB easily.
You want pics? She'll send them.
You want reasonable donation agreements? I think she's probaby the best bargain out there.
You want to cut out the bullshit and figure out very early what her terms are or willing to provide? I think you'll know within the first few text messages.
You want damn near anything on the menu? I haven't been told no on anything.
You want a hottie? I don't think anyone can argue that she's one.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3309462]Being an experienced SD (I presume that's what you meant, and not just mongering) and experienced on SA aren't the same thing. It is a numbers game. You can't get discouraged, you will get many people who aren't serious, or who don't know yet they aren't really cut out for it, those who are really pros, etc. Think needle in a haystack. Spend a couple of days reading this thread back a while, and read the highlights thread as well, which has much SA-specific info.[/QUOTE]Yea I'm sticking with it. I found a very beautiful girl who is willing to meet, but she started out asking for $700. I told her $350 she is trying to up it to $450 right now. I know she is legit verified through FB by phone #. I have two other prospects asking for way less.
[QUOTE=Demond36;3309150]I have been out the game for about five years. I decided to give SA a try. I signed up last week, but no luck so far. Any suggestions for me? I was able to verify a few girls on FB by phone #. We start texting, but as soon as I mention meeting up in a public place they vanish or take almost 24 hours to reply. One girl asked for 3 k to 7 k a month right off the bat. I told her there is no way I am doing that of course.[/QUOTE]I have many conversations that go silent at these two junctures: (1) when I ask if they would like to meet up or (2) when I ask them to move the conversation to email or text. At these transitions it is no longer about hiding behind the anonymity of the internet, but putting the arrangement into motion. They are only going to proceed if they are serious. There are a lot of young women on SA who are curious about being a sugar baby, but few are willing to follow through with it. I've been on SA for six years, and it has always been a numbers game.
If you want a better batting average, stay away from the 18-24 crowd; they are known to be flaky. Women with kids are more likely to meet because they have more urgent needs like bills and mouths to feed versus a college coed that wants money for luxury items. Don't waste your time with profiles that talk about spoiling, pampering, Ferraris, exotic vacations, spa days, etc. These girls are looking for a unicorn. Another tip would to look at ladies with average or curvy body type. They do not get barraged with as many messages as the slim and athletic body type girls.
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;3310437]I have many conversations that go silent at these two junctures: (1) when I ask if they would like to meet up or (2) when I ask them to move the conversation to email or text. At these transitions it is no longer about hiding behind the anonymity of the internet, but putting the arrangement into motion. They are only going to proceed if they are serious. There are a lot of young women on SA who are curious about being a sugar baby, but few are willing to follow through with it. I've been on SA for six years, and it has always been a numbers game.
If you want a better batting average, stay away from the 18-24 crowd; they are known to be flaky. Women with kids are more likely to meet because they have more urgent needs like bills and mouths to feed versus a college coed that wants money for luxury items. Don't waste your time with profiles that talk about spoiling, pampering, Ferraris, exotic vacations, spa days, etc. These girls are looking for a unicorn. Another tip would to look at ladies with average or curvy body type. They do not get barraged with as many messages as the slim and athletic body type girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will try this angle. I have potential with a 19 yr old. I will do meet Friday. A 21 yr old Monday. Most of the girls have fallen into that age range. I have two weeks of membership left so I am going to aim for the 25 and up crowd now. Thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3310213]Have to be in Richmond next week for work and wondered if it would be worth my time to contact this one for a quick FC visit? Tried searching TFF but found nothing under andlove.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cbf16ea4-610d-4eeb-adbc-b775a244acbe[/URL][/QUOTE]IMHO you should be looking at BP WFM. Sugaring takes many forms but if you want an escort then go on an escort site. There are indeed escorts on SA, but we should try to keep SA more for a low volume "real" SBs who are looking for a longer term relationship. To your point, contact girls in a travel area (say RVA) and explain that you are looking for an SB to see when you are travelling here. You might get a bite. If I know a girl is an escort I will report her to SA.
"I told her $350 she is trying to up it to $450 right now. " Demond 36.
GPS exists everywhere. I sugar all day long for $200 PPM. Unless you are chasing Internet Models 10/10's there is no need to pay that kind of money. It was said earlier. Look for 7's instead of 10's,maybe mixed / ethnic SBs, even heavier girls if you aren't turned off by a few extra Lbs.
[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3310213]Have to be in Richmond next week for work and wondered if it would be worth my time to contact this one for a quick FC visit? Tried searching TFF but found nothing under andlove.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cbf16ea4-610d-4eeb-adbc-b775a244acbe[/URL][/QUOTE]Leaf,
To me, her pic looks like the typical shot one sees on BP and CL of a pro, semi-pro or UTR. Her text practically screams "I'll fuck you for money, no questions asked," so it shouldn't be a problem if you can get her to respond.
As for On the Road sugaring, I've had fantastic success with contacting SBs ahead of time in any city I'm traveling to and lining up dates and FC visits for every night I'm there. In my experience there are several key things you need to do in order to be successful at this:
1. Don't start contacting them any more or less than two weeks out.
2. Be EXTREMELY polite and a little circumspect about your true intentions. Mention dinner or drinks after work, but only hint that you are comfortable with more intimate activities if she is, with mutual chemistry being paramount.
3. Share your private pics on first contact. It saves time and shows you have nothing to hide.
4. Mention you are an experienced SD. Lets them know you understand the rules.
5. Carpet-bomb your target city. This is a percentage game, and you want to contact anyone who gets the little head going in order to increase your response rate.
6. Let them know that if you hit it off, you will contact them the next time you are in that city. Makes the true amateurs feel less like they are fucking a stranger from out of town on a one-night stand.
I've been in the Bowl for over 6 years, and this approach has never failed me. I was down in New Orleans a few months ago for three nights and had someone new each night, with one of them being a threesome I set up with two babies who both said they were into women as well as men but did not know each other! I got very little sleep that night! Be prepared for the reality that you will get a very low percentage of responses, most likely, but you only need a couple to make the trip fun, right? I've used this technique all across the country, and never sleep alone when out of town on business!
Good luck, and don't forget to write!
Scott.
[QUOTE=Demond36;3310412]Yea I'm sticking with it. I found a very beautiful girl who is willing to meet, but she started out asking for $700. I told her $350 she is trying to up it to $450 right now. I know she is legit verified through FB by phone #. I have two other prospects asking for way less.[/QUOTE]Many people recommend never being first to bring up an in-person meeting w / the really young ones, which could be responsible for them going silent. Yes, that could mean even weeks of messaging w / no prospect of M&G, hard for those of you unused to delayed gratification, and otherwise hitting the girls active on BP. But, that could be the only way to get those rewards.
I've had young ones meet up after significant cultivation, then go silent right after, and again, I think my error was in discussing any specific of an arrangement at that time. If they are low on experience, they need to come to an accommodation of it in their own time if you are going to score. Slow play is the only way. Another reason SBs aren't just hookers, contradicting an assertion of Admin2 on these threads recently.