The prize is in the eye of the beholder
[QUOTE=FilmMakr97;5087285]I don't know about you guys but I love the challenge of turning a legit cutie into a teaser and then a HJ queen and if lucky enough a FS giver. I've only accomplished it a couple of times but I'm really curious to hear stories from guys who have successfully done it. I know it takes patience and $$ but the satisfaction was worth the effort for me. What strategy do you guys use? How much time do you allow before you move on? Of course, it's a YMMV situation as usual. But there has to be a tried and true strategy, at least one where the odds of turning her go up. Admin, I'd love to start a thread. Tales from the Table. Stories about the hard nuts to crack but eventually fellas hit the jackpot.[/QUOTE]Dark side has such a negative connotation, I think of it more as a conquest. Everyone has their own standard for what they consider more than expected. HJ's being the norm at many of these spas, a BJ or FS from a spa or girl know strictly for handy's has a victorious feeling. Like any girl, the real conquest is getting them on your own turf. Yeah baby!
The first time you try. At the end.
[QUOTE=RyanE36;5092261]You start the massage with this? Or halfway through? Give some tips bro[/QUOTE]I usually wait until I've seen her at least twice. At end of second visit I'll ask to leave 5 min of time so I can massage her. Use phone to translate if needed. Watch the clock yourself. With 5 left, move to head or foot of table in a sitting position. Spread your legs. Keep yourself covered, you pervs, LOL!, pat the table between your legs. Ask her to sit with her back to your front. Make sure your hands are free of oil. I wipe off on sheet and be sure she sees you do that. Then just squeeze her shoulders on each side of her neck, delts, neck. If she's comfy with it, next time start the massage that way. When she comes in, you're already sitting on the edge and pat the table, smile and pantomime squeezing your hands in a massaging motion. Keep yourself covered. Make her feel comfy. Eventually she will begin to massage your quads while you massage her. Then her hands will roam back and touch you. Hopefully. If she doesn't after say 5 visits. She's unbreakable. Or selfish. Move on to another.
South Bay massage on Coronado
[QUOTE=FilmMakr97;5091702]"Dark side" was simply a Star Wars reference, said with a firm tongue-in-cheek. I used to say that to Jenny at Oasis back in the day. "Come over to the dark side, Jenny, you'll at least make more money." She would laugh and tease the hell out of me but never grab on. She did enjoy watching self-service but that's no fun. My personal go to move is to attempt to massage the woman. Just sit on the edge of the table, have her sit between your legs and you can massage her shoulders, neck over her clothing. Some will accept a mini break. Others refuse. It seems to work for me.[/QUOTE]Dongdong will let you massage her.
She also offers the FS. Got her down to 100 for that special. Let's keep the rates low guys.