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[QUOTE=SomeNameHuh;6661278]Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I would text them and work with them. Sometimes they do video chats. Or know a trusted customer really well for a long time.
Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6661973]Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.[/QUOTE]Looking for maybe 3 or 4 senior members to join me.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661817]This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.
[URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.
Damn, so interesting. Reading this economic theory has me reflecting on my past experiences, and it's reeling me back to the reality of things. So wild. Thanks for your insight.
Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661817]I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrPhuk;6662003][URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.[/QUOTE]I was going to say new fresh meat!
Looks new to me.
[QUOTE=MrPhuk;6662003][URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika[/URL]
Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.
4 New ones?
Rurika 1010 [URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL] - looks nice, someone asked if new, I am not certain but don't recall these pics.
Suyen NJ [URL]https://myluxeescape.com/content/[/URL] - real pics?
Suzu PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzuchan[/URL] - tiny spinner with flat everything is back. Some of you like this, not my type.
Oto PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/otomizuhara[/URL] - looks good.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6661789]Miro DDY [URL]http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1978[/URL] - the only real new?
All other are moved or recyclables.
Demi now Noa [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602[/URL] - cheaper, boob just just as big.
Rina SE is back [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601[/URL] - new pics.
Momo 1010 [URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/441[/URL] - yes Yuria.
Aoi is back XOXO [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441[/URL].
Suya xoxo [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440[/URL] - forgot her name. Almost return trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661829]Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.[/QUOTE]100% on Yume. A lot of returns because it's a simple economics. If I can save $200 on some hot girl, I'd go back because I'm getting a great return.
Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.
I think the number of mongers has gone down while the volume of girls has gone up.
Supply and Demand are already out of wack. And I do see some evidence of price changes.
Demi was $260/500 a PPC and is now much cheaper at Smilingeyes.
I do see more $230 price range girls. Not going to change or make them cheap enough if mongers are fucking poorer due to inflation or out of the job though.
There will always be exceptions but I think the norm price seems to be lowering a little bit.
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.
Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.
[QUOTE=Meiji;6662002]I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JediNY;6661860]This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.
I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.
As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.
There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.[/QUOTE]It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.
[URL]https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439[/URL]
New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.
She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.
[URL]https://mimi16888.com/view/224[/URL]
[URL]https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4[/URL]
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662163]It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. As long as you visit, they get cash and they win.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662135]Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.[/QUOTE]Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.