Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HoboWithin;5123972]Just tried Selly this afternoon. Had a choice between her and another person named "Bobby".

She greeted me with a sweet smile and was dressed in a nice and sexy bikini. She was receptive to all my requests and I left the house perfectly satisfied.

Going to go back soon to try out Bobby. Was able to get a glance at her and she looked fairly close to the pictures on their ad.[/QUOTE]She's cute with usual service. There was a 4 Runner parked by the bridge across the street. May or may not be LE. Just be careful if you can't afford to get your identity known.

[QUOTE=Museki;5124631]Anyone know if Doris is coming back?[/QUOTE]She said she's coming back after New Years but you know how that goes with these girls.

[QUOTE=KidFarian;5119296]Once you find a "winner" best to set yourself apart from other lobbyists. Once you break the seal, enjoy your spoils before she moves on to the next honey pot. I'm currently still working on getting my unicorn to pass me the puss. Patience, persistence and personality. Works every time.

Kid.[/QUOTE]There are still at least 50 around. And maybe 20 where the massage is actually good.

[QUOTE=GhostRecon;5121124]Miko is gone, got a new girl Selly, anyone tried her? So there's only one girl working there now? That's what it seems like when I texted.[/QUOTE]Damn guess I missed out. Anyone know if Miko's coming back?

Are the new girls in their 20's like she was?

[QUOTE=Travel808;5125583]Damn guess I missed out. Anyone know if Miko's coming back?

Are the new girls in their 20's like she was?[/QUOTE]Her pussy was too tight in doggy. IDK if she'll be back.

How do you guys schedule w bobby or the new girls?

Finally got a chance to try Bobby.

She was fully booked and it was hard for me to get a time that matched my schedule.

It was worth the wait. I would say she is cuter than Selly, but looks are highly subjective. I recommend trying both to see which one you prefer more.

I would say her demeaner is more innocent than Selly, but she is still receptive to everything I ask.

I did leave the place fully satisfied and wouldn't going back for a repeat visit.

Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.

I wonder how long before they have to move again.

[QUOTE=SuperGuy;5128598]Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperGuy;5128598]Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.[/QUOTE]You probably had Selly. Bobby was not bad. A little rush though. Typical Chinese menus. I think they think the time is half hour now and even booking people at the half hour mark. Mama should have know by now. Mama must be a vampire because every time I see her she is either looks like l just woke her ass up or sleeping under the table. Anyone get more then half hour? I know what you mean by crowded. Monger driving in and driving out in full view of the neighbor next door.

[QUOTE=SuperGuy;5128598]Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.[/QUOTE]If she had lighter colored hair then you had Bobby. Selly has darker colored straight hair. The pics they're using now are NOT accurate at all IMO. GL!

[QUOTE=SuperGuy;5128598]Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.[/QUOTE]That is messed up they bringing heat to there place with booking back to back like that. To me that is the worst kind service when you have to wait or get rushed out because of other customers waiting or when they take a other customer instead of you. Ruins the feeling of wanting to go back total bum trip every time. Happens all the time so I guess got to get use to it they must know who they can do that kind shit to ruins the mood I just cut off a atf for that kind shit they won't be seeing me anymore because of that I was a regular not anymore LOL fuck these bitches LOL.

[QUOTE=ShyBoto;5130533]That is messed up they bringing heat to there place with booking back to back like that. To me that is the worst kind service when you have to wait or get rushed out because of other customers waiting or when they take a other customer instead of you. Ruins the feeling of wanting to go back total bum trip every time. Happens all the time so I guess got to get use to it they must know who they can do that kind shit to ruins the mood I just cut off a atf for that kind shit they won't be seeing me anymore because of that I was a regular not anymore LOL fuck these bitches LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reports. I was beginning to think about trying them out but the last few reports is something that I don't want to go through again.

I was thinking that that place was going to be a little like Ivy and Steve's Empire with good attitude, looks, and service. Even when Empire was busy, it was not too bad to wait for available room. They always offered me something to drink while I waited.

Too bad that the Chinese places now are not like that at all. Only interested in how much money they can make in the least amount of time. The girls don't do proper hygiene and you can smell the awful odors when they open their mouths and again when they take off their panties. Not for me to try again, unless I see many positive reviews that say otherwise.

[QUOTE=SuperGuy;5128598]Definitely would not repeat.

Overbooked. Guys were waiting in the living room and in their cars. Had to wait around to try to avoid bumping into other mongers both before and after. I guess this is the mamas fault for overbooking.

Massage was decent, but only lasted for literally 2 minutes. She said she would give massage after, but that never happened.

Sex was not good. She refused to get on top. BJ was ok, but was only a few minutes. In doggy, she kept pulling away so couldn't get into it. She asked several times if I came yet and even checked took off the condom to check. Replaced the condom and drilled her until finish. Just wanted to get it over with at that point.

After the deed, I told her to massage and she flat out said no. She said she was too tired and it's time to go, there were other customers waiting.

Avoid at all costs. Sorry fellow mongers. But this one was terrible.

Not sure if this was Bobby or Selly. I booked Bobby, but mama told me next time to try Bobby because she's better.

Not the absolute worst monger experience, but close to it.

Sup.[/QUOTE]Get used to the new normal. There's not that much to choose from and they know that. Established AMP businesses are now prosecutorial targets and smart owners are not going to invest long term in a place and risk being charged with trafficking, promoting, tax evasion, etc. Landlords are under pressure to not rent to AMPs too. These Chinese places are probably trying to maximize their profit in as short as time possible with a month to month lease and then disbanding and moving on before prosecutors can compile a case. Best thing to do is try to get an ATF or two from these places to see independently.

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5130999]Get used to the new normal. There's not that much to choose from and they know that. Established AMP businesses are now prosecutorial targets and smart owners are not going to invest long term in a place and risk being charged with trafficking, promoting, tax evasion, etc. Landlords are under pressure to not rent to AMPs too. These Chinese places are probably trying to maximize their profit in as short as time possible with a month to month lease and then disbanding and moving on before prosecutors can compile a case. Best thing to do is try to get an ATF or two from these places to see independently.[/QUOTE]I have got better (and longer) time with a few girls (my atf and her referral- can not be that picky though. Thanks they spend time to keep shape). Rental of one AMP room for one hour or my place if I can. When they visit me, they don't mind extra time and service including coffee and cookie time. The only problem is girls don't want pile of cookies complaining of weight.

What is everyone using to find massage parlors these days? Xguide was pretty good but I can't access it anymore. Bedpage is sketchy and the old AMPs are disappearing other than a few around keeaumoku st.

Is there a reliable website other than here? PM is ok. Been sitting on the sideline due to covid but you just don't see those neon "open" signs around these days. Even Waikiki is dead these days.

[QUOTE=CoolDude44;5131383]What is everyone using to find massage parlors these days? Xguide was pretty good but I can't access it anymore. Bedpage is sketchy and the old AMPs are disappearing other than a few around keeaumoku st.

Is there a reliable website other than here? PM is ok. Been sitting on the sideline due to covid but you just don't see those neon "open" signs around these days. Even Waikiki is dead these days.[/QUOTE]I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.

[QUOTE=MeCook;5131425]I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.[/QUOTE]There will not be many young ones' influx from korea any more.

Before with korean's new law of very anti prostitution, many 30-40's old prostitutes (who can not be adjusted to new model-studio system) came to america owing to visa waiver.

But now new law in korea rarely punish working girls, it is going more like scandinavian model. And new generation of korean men are not their fathers' generation. New generation like safe sex and good manner on working girls. And price is high there. 15 minutes studio girl in city get 100-150 USD. All prepaid service and 15 mins service. Young korean talents have no reason to come to coronavirus heaven. (They rather go to mainland China, true. With big tipper boasting Chinese men).

FYI some 30's k former AMP girls still in hawaii. With changing into studio system, half incall half outcall. They (now shifting period and cpronashit) just keep very low with limited regulars. I know many guys here know what I mean and they will not reveal their (safer and cleaner) fond to share their bb girls with hundred guys. New norms now.

And in mainland younger, fitter k women don't like AMP refugee camp like shit. They go for quality (less customer but higher charge).

[QUOTE=MeCook;5131425]I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.[/QUOTE]Osaka: the whole building is destined to be demolished (to sorabol restaurant). Yas will not find new shop of course. She is not that dumb.

Beach, asia: did not know those are k place. But even owners there have never wanted many customer influx. They just feel satisfied with small amount of cash for shopping. No interests in boosting business.

Plus: this place is almost for semi indie's cheap hotel rental. Even workers there don't respond to calling or knocking. And they choose whether they take care of customer or not. Girls there (but joy) did not like locals, it was tourist haole men's places for long.

All of them choose whether they take customer or not, open the door or not. Your luck or their picky choice.

Angel: heard they dare to take new clients. But we can guess without tourist surge and non-asian pros, this place has no meaning.

Blue star: the most brave place. But we all know this place's fate is as dark as its old granny prostitutes' fate.

Girls who finally left hawaii will be back? Not sure when they taste easier customer in mainland. Already most parts in america but dallas (even dallas' k AMPs are being shut down more and more.) is dominated by Chinese connection.

Unlike 10 years ago, korean women have much much less trouble (being sent to secondary room), which means even government knows less korean women are coming to USA to be prostitutes. And once korean AMPs got fucked up as like seattle and connecticut, no new korean AMP. Chinese take them over.

On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?

MP Man.

[QUOTE=ManapuaMan;5131810]On the way to Lex Brodie's today saw a sign on a small building across where Ward Bank of Hawaii used to be with that name on it. Anyone try the place? Anything good there?

MP Man.[/QUOTE]That's young skye's new place.

[QUOTE=MeCook;5131425]I doubt if we will see any more of the old style full service massage parlors anytime soon. How I see it is that we are going to get more of the ones that have the girls working out of their condo / apartments like they are on the mainland. No major changes to the floor plans to make it easier to move to a new location before our LEO can build the case against them.

The Chinese houses around town seem to be following that model, but their service seems to be below my standards and I won't participate unless they make improvements. They are NOT using the model of Empire that many of us still miss, but more like that of the Chinese connection out of century center.

The only Japanese provider that I know in town is Junko. All the other Japanese girls are long gone. Junko is also following that new model for an AMP.

We still have a few of the old style Korean AMPs. I have not seen any of the Koreans that are using the newer model here in Hawaii. Two old places are with the grandmas, blue star spa and pearl city relaxation. Tomiko and Asia spa are too, if they are still open would be grandma Korean full service places. VIP has many different younger girls with bad attitudes and service. Osaka girls are older and still attitude and service are not so great. The only Korean place left that I know of now is Tonbo with only one girl there that is Jayy. I don't know how much longer she will last but she is still has a great attitude and delivers great service.

I am waiting to see when and where the new Korean places will pop up. I am figuring that it will be in a nice condo somewhere, but that is just me dreaming a little.[/QUOTE]I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.

No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;5134294]I think most Koreans potentially interested in opening a place have decided it's not worth the risk here and have gone elsewhere on the mainland. Even Happy decided to get out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DeeJohn808;5134417]No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.[/QUOTE]Yes Dee John, I was thinking that too. I don't mind to pay more for higher quality talent, but I would be very pissed to pay more for that low quality service that we are getting from the Chinese connection style service at century center. The women better have decent hygiene, good looks, attitude and service. Otherwise, I will probably be sitting it out for a very long time, and head back into the hostess bars.

Top tier girls versus the low quality girls. I know that they all will claim to be the best girl around, but we should know better.

[QUOTE=DeeJohn808;5134417]No one here wants to hear this, but Hawaii rates aren't good enough yo attract high quality and / or large amounts of talent. Women can make lots more on the mainland because higher rates there combine with lower cost of living to make a more appealing package.[/QUOTE]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.

Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.

[QUOTE=Sidekick501;5134719]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.

Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.[/QUOTE]Small package of fresh spring mix is 6 dollars here. Big one 8 bucks. In mainland it was half price.

What about commercial rental? Unlike mainland massage shop (remote location), damn one unit in packed town. High rental.

Can girls come by car as many illegal residents do in mainland? No. Only legal one without record feel safe and some girls (they got arrested or I'd-checked up in other states) got freaked in airport. And now test and quarantine.

Anyway compared to mainland raid, hps is almost angel. Before mainland les just drag girls in thong and only fishnet dress into van. On the street in cold weather pros got lined up till investigation was done. And was "one girl caught then take any human in that shop into custody first".

But hpd's way became more sneaky and meaner. Once I'd checked up or investigation, pros may get sudden warrant after 3 months or 6 months or even after 1 year. Just leaving Hawaii was the best choice for some.

There must be reason when girls and shops suddenly stop ads and avoid reviews.

Then worse came. Shops and girls kept very very low. Even appointment with stranger scared them. Many left from fear then coronavirus. But soon money will be the reason. Young quick visitors disappear owing to job loss, stable grannies will hesitate visiting cause they worry about their own health and life itself.

Keep a few leftovers now though they may not be ideal girl unless we can win in freebie competing jungle war against younger, fitter dudes. To hungry men, even 1 dollar gas station donut can be diamond. Sad truth for a while.

[QUOTE=Restless1728;5132557]That's young skye's new place.[/QUOTE]Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding!

[QUOTE=Restless1728;5136373]Sorry that is not skye's place it was a misunderstanding![/QUOTE]I already drove all the way down there.

[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;5136445]I already drove all the way down there.[/QUOTE]So who's there if not Skye? Thanks.

[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolullu-near-waikiki/6474360.html[/URL]

This ad mentions the Lydia that was there at Hunnewell before briefly, has anyone been able to get a response?

[QUOTE=ACupOfTea;5139981][URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolullu-near-waikiki/6474360.html[/URL]

This ad mentions the Lydia that was there at Hunnewell before briefly, has anyone been able to get a response?[/QUOTE]That's the pic that Pali used for Lydia, but the 275 number is for a massage place by Don Quijote. I tried texting, no response.

[QUOTE=Sidekick501;5134719]I think most mongers are aware that our AMP prices are lower than big city markets, but not everywhere. However no one is going to argue that Hawaii has a high cost of living. That's what limits most of us from blowing big bucks on escorts, AMPs, and massages. It also limits girls setting up shop here. We normally attracted visiting or transient providers because of our weather, beaches, less dangerous work environment, and permissive LE.

Permissive LE attitude ended 5 years ago. The economy has gotten worse. That's why our options keep diminishing. It will be a long recovery for the Hawaii scene.[/QUOTE]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.

Anyway that's what I think.

Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there!

[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.

Anyway that's what I think.

Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]Yes, l would definitely pay more to see my ATFs again. I noticed most decent K providers in the mainland are $300 and up. Only Chinese is still $200. Better to save your money for oversea.

[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.

Anyway that's what I think.

Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]I want to help them get minimum income to stay in Hawaii.

High cost of living and now no more very generous LE policy. No reason for working girls to stay in Hawaii. So I want the left girls to get at least minimum income to stay in Hawaii. Now it may be impossible to bring top girls to come for a while or for a few years.

I know one girl with 10-15 regulars. The reason she could stay in Hawaii is that she has special old haole guy friend who happily understand her situation and pay a lot more to make her stay in Hawaii. That man's gift is basic income so she can give as good service as before with flat rate fee. Thanks for generous old gentleman.

When most places don't want risk of new clients (now rumors are going there are suspicious activity against them) and most of the left rely on not many regulars, and many guys can not spend money as much as before a month too. Just adding 10 dollars to them will make them encouraged.

[QUOTE=Museki;5140298]I actually thought we still had a lot of very good providers on a consistent basis, some even moved here up until a year or two when fn Nadamoto started cracking down. At the risk of getting flamed by everyone I think we should start paying more (when things get better) for a better quality of providers. Seriously, the price hasn't changed since I started 10 years ago. I mean look at the mostly crap providers that are coming here now and what you are getting for your money. Rushed service, no massage skill nude hand jobs for more than $200? Why wouldn't you pay more to attract a better quality FS provider. I mean wouldn't you pay more to see your ATFs again? I would.

Anyway that's what I think.

Happy New Year everyone, be safe out there![/QUOTE]No flames from me. I have thinking that I would need to pay more money to see the quality girls like before. Definitely don't want to pay more and still get junk service or from old ladies.

Anyone try? Ad looks like sunflower style, but googled the number and it's tied to a MP in Manhattan NY, Happyness Spa.

[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/waikiki-1-929-299-7888/9803558.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-happyness-spa-manhattan-14th-to-40th-street-ny-99423[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xyz808;5142215]Anyone try? Ad looks like sunflower style, but googled the number and it's tied to a MP in Manhattan NY, Happyness Spa.

[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/waikiki-1-929-299-7888/9803558.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-happyness-spa-manhattan-14th-to-40th-street-ny-99423[/URL][/QUOTE]Contacted phone for yuri but ended up with an oppointment with yumi. Both these ads might be the same booker.

[QUOTE=Nyanyan;5142659]Contacted phone for yuri but ended up with an oppointment with yumi. Both these ads might be the same booker.[/QUOTE]So how was it then? Damage? Quality of service? Etc?

Bros--I took one in the ass here. Avoid and save money.

Text said Cindy was from Sunflower. Showed up and she wasn't there--shopping was the story. I think it was just an outright lie.

Took the girl, insisted pay up front. Spidey senses should have walked.

L, 5. 5'4" Chinese, average built, Bees kitties but no suck, cock block all they way, but younger than auntie Blue Star, LOL.

A, 2, S 2. At least I went cum. What a train wreck. 2 min bbj, no kiss, no daty, just cover on and fuck unshaven pussy.

Lose money. Stay far away, at least until new crew shows up. This one is a loser.

[QUOTE=Xyz808;5142215]Anyone try? Ad looks like sunflower style, but googled the number and it's tied to a MP in Manhattan NY, Happyness Spa.

[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/waikiki-1-929-299-7888/9803558.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-happyness-spa-manhattan-14th-to-40th-street-ny-99423[/URL][/QUOTE]

[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/waikiki/6089156.html[/URL]

Is Jenni for real? Her pictures look amazing. Reminds me of an ex girlfriend.