General Reports

You often read or hear that arrests were made as the result of a one or two year investigation or that investigations are ongoing. The purpose of an investigation is to gather evidence in support of an indictment. What Grady does in Polk County is low-level police work consistent with his intellect and likely to result in a major lawsuit against the County. MBI, on the other hand, wastes hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to make mountains out of molehills. It is important to know the difference. A little background and history may be in order.

[url]http://www.mbi-police.org/[/url]

[url]http://www2.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=11910[/url]

[url]http://www.accusedmadam.com/[/url]

There has been discussion in the past of limiting women's posts to ads only. Established women are performing a valuable service to members of this forum by doing follow-ups to review posts. From those posts, you can tell who has been vetted.

[QUOTE=BeaverFever;1405301]The new backpage format sucks. It was so easy to go from brief to full. This new brief to gallery sucks ass, and it doesn't show a lot of the ads.[/QUOTE]I actually like the new format.

Makes it easier to scan through more ads per page.

Back when it was [i]full[/i], I could only see like 4 or 5 ads per page, then wait to reload another page (took forever).

Isn't that art festival going on next week also? If so, I'm going to have to work on my "intellectual pose". Great tip Vino!

[QUOTE=Vino 7373;1405277]I tell you guys about this every year. This weekend is the Winter Park Art Festival on Park Ave. There's so many good looking approachable women, it's incredible. You single guys need to check it out. There is no place that has this many opportunities to score on a regular, sweet honey.[/QUOTE]

I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]That's a pretty bold move.

Not something I'd ever risk.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.[/QUOTE]Never use your real name, not even the first name. Never give away your work information and get a google voice number or a throwaway phone. You are correct in feeling vulnerable. Don't do that again. Ever seen the movie Fatal Attraction? Just kidding but not that much.

I have never needed to give anything and have had many top girls. I woud never give out any info.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]Your big head needs to MAINTAIN control over the little one. You were hesitant for 2 days because the big head knew it was wrong.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]That's crazy! Never, ever give out personal information. There's plenty of providers out there to see without giving out your life story.

I just hope that it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass.

I can relate as I'm also fairly "green" to this. I dream only once or twice a year, one time though like you I have very little references and one time someone did ask me for a work # as verification I almost gave it out but thought twice and didn't.

[QUOTE=Orl Stud26;1406780]I can relate as I'm also fairly "green" to this. I dream only once or twice a year, one time though like you I have very little references and one time someone did ask me for a work # as verification I almost gave it out but thought twice and didn't.[/QUOTE]Yeah don't ever do that. I also am new like yourself and was in that precarious situation. It is hard to admit but I was desperate and was almost going to give my work info away until I came on here and saw many of the great GFE's that don't mind you not having references.

I always use my Google voice. I don't know what I was thinking. I was scared shitless at work today, thinking someone was going to escort me out. I don't think she is related to LEO in anyway, but still didn't / don't like the feeling of anyone having my info. Lesson learned.

Did you have to mention fatal attraction. Geez. Now all I can think of when I go into the kitchen is rabbits. LOL.

[QUOTE=OliverOil;1406523]Never use your real name, not even the first name. Never give away your work information and get a google voice number or a throwaway phone. You are correct in feeling vulnerable. Don't do that again. Ever seen the movie Fatal Attraction? Just kidding but not that much.[/QUOTE]

Good advertising for Backpage!

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17373572[/url]

Note the source

[QUOTE=BeaverFever;1405301]The new backpage format sucks. It was so easy to go from brief to full. This new brief to gallery sucks ass, and it doesn't show a lot of the ads.[/QUOTE]The old format is still available if you know how to get to it.

You need to go to the gallery page. Then in the url, change the word "gallery" to "detailed" and there you have it!

Exec:

I agree about the MBI: [i]"wastes hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to make mountains out of molehills."[/i]. It is really, really a sad and expensive joke on the taxpayers!

If you read the accomplishments on thier web site, it's like [i]"busted an AMP after 5 years of officers getting happy endings." [/i] And [i]"busted Rachels after a team of officers got lap dances for two years and spent $25, 000+ of taxpayer money." [/i]

And in the mean time, [B]REAL[/B] Crime is up everywhere, and [B]REAL[/B] Officers take HOURS to respond to [B]REAL[/B] Emergencies.

I attended a fundraiser / dinner for a gentleman running for the Orange County Sheriff and we talked & I asked about the MBI, and the incredible WASTE of resources that it seems to be, and interestingly he seemed to agree that those funds could be used to get officers on the streets going after criminals, and not a lone MASSAGE THERAPIST offering a H / E. Guess who gets my vote! . That would be one less 'fifedom' in our government.

Now if only the news cameras wouldn't show up when the MBI calls, we might not have this 'grand standing' either. They always look so smug on TV after they bust a little Korean woman, who is such a danger to society! [i]"Mankind is saved, another AMP is busted. News at 11" [/i]

I love this quote off the MBI site:

[QUOTE]"This small squad of agents is sometimes posed the question, “Don’t you have anything better to do?” This question usually comes from people who don’t understand what these law enforcement officers are trying to accomplish for the Orlando metropolitan area. (See on the website’s menu the Director’s Message for responses to the media concerning false stories created by the vice industry.) Working in conjunction with the State Attorney’s Office, as well as city and county leaders, the MBI Vice/Organized Crime Section has made our metropolitan area [B] one of the cleanest metropolitan areas in the country [/B]as it relates to removing vice organizations"[/QUOTE]Really, they have [i] 'made a difference' [/i]? .

Well, maybe they are too busy getting the lapdance, rather than "researching" backpage, craigslist, EROS, etc.

Maybe I'm too simplistic, but It seems to me, that simple LEO presense in cars will have much more impact than anything else!

Okay, done venting! Be safe!

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1405812]You often read or hear that arrests were made as the result of a one or two year investigation or that investigations are ongoing. The purpose of an investigation is to gather evidence in support of an indictment. What Grady does in Polk County is low-level police work consistent with his intellect and likely to result in a major lawsuit against the County. MBI, on the other hand, wastes hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to make mountains out of molehills. It is important to know the difference. A little background and history may be in order.

[url]http://www.mbi-police.org/[/url]

[url]http://www2.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=11910[/url]

[url]http://www.accusedmadam.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

The best lie on the MBI website! Read the last sentence.

[quote]Two Hundred Ninety-Four (294) Advertised Escort Services closed, leaving only those advertised in non-escort service categories or on the internet remaining. Yellow pages and newspaper advertising for such businesses is now almost non-existent in Central Florida as the MBI convinced the Orlando Weekly, Bellsouth Advertising and Sprint Advertising to stop publishing escort service advertisements in their publications. This caused the majority of the escort services to leave Central Florida as advertising is the lifeblood of the organized prostitution trade.[/quote]They didn't leave dumb asses they figured out where you were looking and advertised in a different area. These stupid cops never learn! They think they make a difference getting blow jobs from escorts, hookers and strippers but it's Ok for them to do so since they are getting blowjobs and happy endings to save the public from getting such nasty things. Thanks Barnie!

[QUOTE=Charlie Morris; 1407470]Exec:

I agree about the MBI: [i]"wastes hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to make mountains out of molehills."[/i]. It is really, really a sad and expensive joke on the taxpayers!

If you read the accomplishments on thier web site, it's like [i]"busted an AMP after 5 years of officers getting happy endings." [/i] And [i]"busted Rachels after a team of officers got lap dances for two years and spent $25, 000+ of taxpayer money." [/i]

And in the mean time, [B]REAL[/B] Crime is up everywhere, and [B]REAL[/B] Officers take HOURS to respond to [B]REAL[/B] Emergencies.

I attended a fundraiser / dinner for a gentleman running for the Orange County Sheriff and we talked & I asked about the MBI, and the incredible WASTE of resources that it seems to be, and interestingly he seemed to agree that those funds could be used to get officers on the streets going after criminals, and not a lone MASSAGE THERAPIST offering a H / E. Guess who gets my vote! . That would be one less 'fifedom' in our government.

Now if only the news cameras wouldn't show up when the MBI calls, we might not have this 'grand standing' either. They always look so smug on TV after they bust a little Korean woman, who is such a danger to society! [i]"Mankind is saved, another AMP is busted. News at 11" [/i]

I love this quote off the MBI site:

Really, they have [i] 'made a difference' [/i]? .

Well, maybe they are too busy getting the lapdance, rather than "researching" backpage, craigslist, EROS, etc.

Maybe I'm too simplistic, but It seems to me, that simple LEO presense in cars will have much more impact than anything else!

Okay, done venting! Be safe![/QUOTE]

Hello to all my friends from USASG, recently I had a good friend and reg from this forum telling me that he heard from a third person that my service have change due my recent graduation as a MT. Everything still the same, and I don't know who say this and I really don't care to be honest, I just want to let everyone know that I still the same with better skills. , if any of you have any question just PM or call.

Love, Joan

[QUOTE=Helios1; 1407343]The old format is still available if you know how to get to it.

You need to go to the gallery page. Then in the url, change the word "gallery" to "detailed" and there you have it![/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, I think the new gallery format sucks, with your tip of entering Detailed instead it works like a charm again. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]I did this once and regretted it for weeks. AMP girl asked what I did for a living and I told her. She happened to need the services I provided and asked for my card. Stupid me handed it over, and I lived in fear for weeks, imagining all kinds of crap. Like being a kid fearing an STD the first time you jerked off. Luckily my worry was for nothing, but there were potential consequences. Never again.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]Wow. Always stick with your normal provider if available. And Google Voice is definitely your friend.

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents from my experience. I've only given my work info once and it was to an agency with top notch reviews. I never regretted it as they were very easy to work with and convenient after I was verified. Also my info was on the company website at the time so they were able to verify me without actually calling. I've always been reluctant to give info to an independent.

I've done the same. It is a scary feeling not knowing to whom or where that info is going. Huge toad in my throat I was so nervous, but luckily for me the only provider I have seen is NaNa and she made dreaming of her safe. I guess that's why she's so many peoples ATF. I got to go see her again!

[QUOTE=ILuvWomen2; 1406192]I feel like a teenager again. Can't get a job without a car, can't get a car without a job. That's the best analogy that I can give to being a rookie in the hobby. Can't give references if you can't get them.

So I agreed to do something that really is scaring the pants off of me. A provider that I was looking to meet requested my work info, I was hesitant for 2 days, gave her the info and have not heard back since. Was I foolish to send a picture of my business card? I feel really vulnerable and don't like this feeling.

I should have stuck with my normal provider. Uggghh. This is what I get for trying to venture out.[/QUOTE]

First thanks to the ladies who do post follow-ups to their reviews. Very helpful to all of us.

Guys let's say there is a new poster and you are curious whether he is legit. Check his posting history and see whom he has seen, read his reviews and see if there was any follow-up by his date. Be sure to look out for similar names because that seems to be happening more and more lately. Now, any new reviews he posts should give you confidence in both him and his review.

Watching your back and looking out for each other is not paranoia. It is often just common sense.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1408530]First thanks to the ladies who do post follow-ups to their reviews. Very helpful to all of us.

Guys let's say there is a new poster and you are curious whether he is legit. Check his posting history and see whom he has seen, read his reviews and see if there was any follow-up by his date. Be sure to look out for similar names because that seems to be happening more and more lately. Now, any new reviews he posts should give you confidence in both him and his review.

Watching your back and looking out for each other is not paranoia. It is often just common sense.[/QUOTE]I always felt it was just a nice touch for the girls' to thank a guy for a good review. I didn't even think of it as in the girl verifying the monger! Great way of looking at it, ET.

[QUOTE=Funboy22;1408456]Just my two cents from my experience. I've only given my work info once and it was to an agency with top notch reviews. I never regretted it as they were very easy to work with and convenient after I was verified. Also my info was on the company website at the time so they were able to verify me without actually calling. I've always been reluctant to give info to an independent.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. I don't give personal information to anyone for verification. The last thing I want is an agency to get busted and any of my information to show up in any of their records. In some cases, LEO loves to publish the personal information in the newspaper and online to not only embarrass the Monger, but to also harass the Monger. I get plenty of quality engagements from providers without having to verify anything. Those who require even light screening just end up missing out on my magnanimous personality and a share of my wealth. I would hope any of the ladies on this Forum could simply read my posts and quickly determine I am legit. There are just so many options to pursue, we don't have to waste our time with a verification process. I know some ladies like to use verification to protect themselves and that's okay, but it also limits their wealth potential. How would a provider feel if we required them to provide us their personal information so we could run checks on them? I just don't see that happening. Hmmmmmm. Let me think about that. Is this a business opportunity for some entrepreneurial Monger?

WOF

[QUOTE=Worldsoffun; 1408671]Sorry guys. I don't give personal information to anyone for verification. The last thing I want is an agency to get busted and any of my information to show up in any of their records. In some cases, LEO loves to publish the personal information in the newspaper and online to not only embarrass the Monger, but to also harass the Monger. I get plenty of quality engagements from providers without having to verify anything. Those who require even light screening just end up missing out on my magnanimous personality and a share of my wealth. I would hope any of the ladies on this Forum could simply read my posts and quickly determine I am legit. There are just so many options to pursue, we don't have to waste our time with a verification process. I know some ladies like to use verification to protect themselves and that's okay, but it also limits their wealth potential. How would a provider feel if we required them to provide us their personal information so we could run checks on them? I just don't see that happening. Hmmmmmm. Let me think about that. Is this a business opportunity for some entrepreneurial Monger?

WOF[/QUOTE]Here, Here! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Senior Members, and other valued posters.

What are the proven resources you have all used, to verify providers?

Thanks to this board, I have learned the infinite values of Tineye. It has been used countless times by me, and has been referred to constantly on this board. It's effectiveness cannot be overstated.

Google is also another one of my sources. Google'ing a provider's phone # might lead to further reviews on other sites, perhaps legitimizing the provider. Also, you can see where the provider has been recently via different cities' BP ads, as well as if any other provider uses the same number (PIMP alert?).

What else should I be using fellow SMs? Feel free to PM this conversation further, if the urge arises.

I use the following:

[url]www.cidlookup.com[/url]

[url]www.zabasearch.com[/url]

[url]http://www.intelius.com[/url] (use their $0. 99 cents service with prepaid from a free wi-fi spot. This leaves NO trail)

[QUOTE=Readyfothaflip; 1408988]Senior Members, and other valued posters.

What are the proven resources you have all used, to verify providers?

Thanks to this board, I have learned the infinite values of Tineye. It has been used countless times by me, and has been referred to constantly on this board. It's effectiveness cannot be overstated.

Google is also another one of my sources. Google'ing a provider's phone # might lead to further reviews on other sites, perhaps legitimizing the provider. Also, you can see where the provider has been recently via different cities' BP ads, as well as if any other provider uses the same number (PIMP alert?).

What else should I be using fellow SMs? Feel free to PM this conversation further, if the urge arises.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterPiper52;1408904]Here, Here! I couldn't have said it better myself.[/QUOTE]I've seen some ads for some really hot providers with good reviews that I would like to visit. However, they want new clients to give their employer's name, address, and phone number. Why on God's green earth would I give that info to someone in this buisness; especially someone I don't know.

Another good site is [url]http://www.123people.co.uk/[/url]

Put in name, city and state and will also search photos, phone numbers, email addresses etc that are associated with that person. Most of the site is a pay service but could be worth the try. Also [url]https://www.ameridex.com/[/url] Used in business once in a while.

[QUOTE=BobJones2011; 1409045]I use the following:

[url]www.cidlookup.com[/url]

[url]www.zabasearch.com[/url]

[url]http://www.intelius.com[/url]

(use their $0. 99 cents service with prepaid from a free wi-fi spot. This leaves NO trail) [/QUOTE]

Same here. A newbie here who is having a bit of a hard time and noticed the same thing. Not sure how to handle or where to go. But one thing, would not give that info out! Some of the senior members any hints on how to get established. Hope I did not step on any toes! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jerry Ll;1409196]I've seen some ads for some really hot providers with good reviews that I would like to visit. However, they want new clients to give their employer's name, address, and phone number. Why on God's green earth would I give that info to someone in this buisness; especially someone I don't know.[/QUOTE]

I agree totally, would never give that info out unless it was someone I totally trusted. Just too much at stake.

[QUOTE=KW1234;1409757]Same here. A newbie here who is having a bit of a hard time and noticed the same thing. Not sure how to handle or where to go. But one thing, would not give that info out! Some of the senior members any hints on how to get established. Hope I did not step on any toes! Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KW1234;1409757]Same here. A newbie here who is having a bit of a hard time and noticed the same thing.[/QUOTE]I am quite concerned about my personal security. When I started in the hobby, I didn't know about this website. It's a good place for newbies. I started with the oThER site. It's not bad, some nice ladies there too. However, my first year or two was $pent on high dollar ladies (usually $$$.5 to $$$$.5). These were typically the kind you see with lots of reviews, regular return visits to Orlando. They also established my street cred so I could use them as references. To get to them, I often gave out work info and / or last name. I am lucky I was not burned, but I also spent a lot of money.

It's a different economy now. You newbies should be able to find a well reviewed (by this group) woman who is fun, attractive by your likes, and reasonably priced. Many won't require work info if you are a normal person and act like it on the phone. Nowadays, I basically won't see someone unless we click on phone or email, and neither of us demands too much personal info up front. If you are just in this for the brief interface, you likely won't go as far as with a more normal interaction. I talk to my favorite bartender about her personal life too, although I could just order my usual and be done with it.

Always have a monger phone or substitute. As a newbie, don't take risks you cannot afford. Ladies who actually live in the area have as much in play as you do. Act normally. If you are a the*ck, the word will get out. Have fun. Reviews you post add to your street cred, just don't make them too graphic, it is not necessary. If the women on the other end is not acting cool, likely she doesn't know what she is doing.

I did something similar but I found a group of ladies in the area and got a date-check account. Once I worked my way thru all of the luvsgfe girls I had about 4 references I could call on in the area. They weren't my first but they were the beginning of my addiction of course none of them are with that group anymore I started with but most of them are still in the business. Even tho it looks like Katie maybe going back since she is advertising doing duo's with a current girl. I have just heard too many stories about that house near 50 and dean and its unsafe environment to return. Even if I don't believe what I heard it is still a possibility.

[QUOTE=Vankleek; 1410857]I am quite concerned about my personal security. When I started in the hobby, I didn't know about this website. It's a good place for newbies. I started with the oThER site. It's not bad, some nice ladies there too. However, my first year or two was $pent on high dollar ladies (usually $$$.5 to $$$$.5). These were typically the kind you see with lots of reviews, regular return visits to Orlando. They also established my street cred so I could use them as references. To get to them, I often gave out work info and / or last name. I am lucky I was not burned, but I also spent a lot of money.

It's a different economy now. You newbies should be able to find a well reviewed (by this group) woman who is fun, attractive by your likes, and reasonably priced. Many won't require work info if you are a normal person and act like it on the phone. Nowadays, I basically won't see someone unless we click on phone or email, and neither of us demands too much personal info up front. If you are just in this for the brief interface, you likely won't go as far as with a more normal interaction. I talk to my favorite bartender about her personal life too, although I could just order my usual and be done with it.

Always have a monger phone or substitute. As a newbie, don't take risks you cannot afford. Ladies who actually live in the area have as much in play as you do. Act normally. If you are a the*ck, the word will get out. Have fun. Reviews you post add to your street cred, just don't make them too graphic, it is not necessary. If the women on the other end is not acting cool, likely she doesn't know what she is doing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vankleek; 1410857]I am quite concerned about my personal security. When I started in the hobby, I didn't know about this website. It's a good place for newbies. I started with the oThER site. It's not bad, some nice ladies there too. However, my first year or two was $pent on high dollar ladies (usually $$$.5 to $$$$.5). These were typically the kind you see with lots of reviews, regular return visits to Orlando. They also established my street cred so I could use them as references. To get to them, I often gave out work info and / or last name. I am lucky I was not burned, but I also spent a lot of money.

It's a different economy now. You newbies should be able to find a well reviewed (by this group) woman who is fun, attractive by your likes, and reasonably priced. Many won't require work info if you are a normal person and act like it on the phone. Nowadays, I basically won't see someone unless we click on phone or email, and neither of us demands too much personal info up front. If you are just in this for the brief interface, you likely won't go as far as with a more normal interaction. I talk to my favorite bartender about her personal life too, although I could just order my usual and be done with it.

Always have a monger phone or substitute. As a newbie, don't take risks you cannot afford. Ladies who actually live in the area have as much in play as you do. Act normally. If you are a the*ck, the word will get out. Have fun. Reviews you post add to your street cred, just don't make them too graphic, it is not necessary. If the women on the other end is not acting cool, likely she doesn't know what she is doing.[/QUOTE]I've been trying to see some high dollar ladies with no luck. The screening is usually just too much for me.

I gave out my info once an couldn't sleep all night woke up and canceled the appointment.

I'm even whitelisted on another site but they are so dead set on the work information even if I have references out the wazoo WTF is this shit LOL.

Figure its their loss I have alot to spend and it just won't be on them I guess.

[QUOTE=Redbeard0504; 1364072]Any of you long timers remember a slim, light brown haired beauty by the name of Bliss that worked Orlando occasionally? She traveled a loop that included Norfolk, Charlotte, Georgia and Orlando. I indulged once here and she was the most out of pocket (at one time and not married to her) that I have ever spent. But what a beauty she was!

Thanks. RB[/QUOTE]Would that be the "therapist" with large breast and tattoos?

She may have had a tattoo but she was so lovely I didn't pay much attention. The only therapy I received was in different positions so no, I wouldn't call her a "therapist."

[QUOTE=Efast;1411263]Would that be the "therapist" with large breast and tattoos?[/QUOTE]

I saw the topic of "Baywash" (the bikini car wash on 436 and University near Full Sail) offering some extras come up in one of these topics and wanted to re-spark the conversation. I think it fits better here than in another thread, but if there's a better place for it, MODS, feel free to move this.

Anyway, the report on here was that someone received extras during Baywash's new "After Hours" where they do the car wash inside the actual garage-thing with doors closed, lights down and black lights and neon bikinis. The report was called into question by other board members and the original poster never took the opportunity to support their original claim nor to reply to PMs from me (maybe someone else did hear more?)

So I finally went in last Thursday (They advertise being open late on Wed-Sat) after being unable to resist the temptation. I can report that I did not receive any extras but I also was extremely conservative in my approach. The gig is tips only and I did tip well, but think upon re-visiting I will try tipping more strip-club style than putting it all out there at the end.

Anyone have anything different or a girl to recommend? When I went it there were 2 girls in there for the wash (I think a third was there but not inside). They were Ashley and Marissa.

[QUOTE=Mikaeles;1410900]I did something similar but I found a group of ladies in the area and got a date-check account. Once I worked my way thru all of the luvsgfe girls I had about 4 references I could call on in the area. They weren't my first but they were the beginning of my addiction of course none of them are with that group anymore I started with but most of them are still in the business. Even tho it looks like Katie maybe going back since she is advertising doing duo's with a current girl. I have just heard too many stories about that house near 50 and dean and its unsafe environment to return. Even if I don't believe what I heard it is still a possibility.[/QUOTE]I have seen both Katie and Helen at the place albeit about 1 or 2 years ago and never had any problems there and the neighborhood was decent. Like I say I haven't been there recently but I can't imagine the neighborhood or the house getting that run down so quickly. With that said I will say of the two ladies that use it now, Tia and Stephanie, Tia has been getting the most stellar feedback. There has been some not so flattering comments made of Stephanie, which could lead someone to believe their place may not be as up to par as when Katie and Helen were there. During my visits I was always comfortable with the neighborhood and the ambiance inside.