A smoke screen to distract from Trump’s numerous travails and Netanyahu’s trial.....
How the f**k do you have a Middle East peace plan without including Palestinian's?
Good for him for creating a distraction on a day when the numbers of people who are affected and the numbers of people who are dying from this virus only increases. We will have surpassed 200,000 dead from COVID-19 by sunrise today. Anyone remember Trump's supposed historic peace pact with North Korea and where it lies at the moment? Hint, it lies buried on the ash heap of history.
[QUOTE=Mike454;4979413]Same false information that's been out there for 5 years, looks like CNN and NYTimes, with a dash of MSNBC. LOL give me a break 95% of that's been debunked for years.
For someone thats broke as you say, Forbes( definitely not trump friendly) says in 2019 president trump made 691million, and even after the Covid real estate hit, of which the values will go right back up prob by the end of 2021, still has a net worth of 2.5 billion dollars, which is 2500 million dollars, doesn't seem likes he is broke, and not making ANY money does it nuguy? almost 700 million in a year? broke and stupid..... give me a break- go watch more CNN, or read NYtimes, those bastions of integrity and truthful reporting llol.
You can't see everyday its a new Trump revelation. Oh this is IT, THIS one is going to take down Bad Orange Man. But yet he's still there, working everyday, doing shit every administration since JFK has promised and salivated to do the Middle East peace plan, but just couldn't get it done. LOL.
The "bull in a China shop" the "Stupid business man" and 40 other phrases they use, Gets stuff done,
Meanwhile,The bureaucrats whose job depends on never actually getting anything done, but they are the most qualified diplomatic blah blah bla, in 50 years have done less than trump in 4.
how did he do it you ask? he did it by leaving the Palestinians out of the deal, going around them, unlike every other admin before him, thought out of the box, and he and jared cushner got it done.
and of course it won't get any play in the msm. and nobody will take the time to take an honest look at how they did it. and without blood in the sand. or treasure.
history will look very kindly on Mr Trump and Cushner.... and everybody in Washington,that have failed for 50 years to get just this one thing done, will not be nearly as kindly looked upon,.... thats why they are all soooo mad, all of them dems and never trumper repubs.
pissed that he is making them ALL look bad, with NO political experience, shows they are not needed like they think they are, and dont believe it, just ask, they'll tell ou how important they are. yea right.
Clinton offered Yasser Arafat Everything AND the kitchen sink, and they didn't do it because then they could no longer use it for sympathy...
Seems simple to me, Just go around the Palestinians ,but just like the never trumpers,and the inside the beltway insiders, who say their lives work has been to get a Middle East peace plan, Couldn't figure out how to get it done,Thats why they are sooo mad, all of them trump makes them look so petty and stupid.
You may not like how he talks or tweets, but he'll outwork any career politician and gets waaaay more actually done.
Look it up, Hint you won't find it in msm or YouTube.
End of argument.
all that and didn't even do any name calling, what a novel approach[/QUOTE]
Over half the country doesn't see it that way, thank God
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4979815]Yea right, did you watch Trump's ABC town hall meeting last night? Hint, It was another self-inflicted disaster for Trump. It was brutal, a clusterfuck, he blew it, big time.
Trump, couldn't answer some of the questions, he tried to adlib or BS his way on some of the answers. Down Play was Up play, Black was White, left is right, dark is light, yes is no. And trump was called out. I cant wait to see how he handles the Presidential debates coming in two weeks.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LLZXWH9vDY&t=246s[/URL][/QUOTE]You do realize not everyone sees shit the same way you do. Who says your views hold any water at all? You? LOL.
you know ABC news and Clinton George had a hand in writing those questions, most working Americans dont give a shit about all that "narrative stuff" thats a Washington msm thing the think resonates with dems.
Good grief, like talking to a brick wall.
Can't wait till Nov.
Then at least maybe we'll make it to New Years before " another impeachable phone call leak comes" or the next whatever get trump story of the day comes.
Just pray to God above that the people don't give the democrats any power at all, just maybe can get more done without shifty Schiff running interference.
And you believe the polls. LOL
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4980129]FYI, Trump has a soft support group of no more than 10 percent. The crazies that make up his core support are no more than 30-32 percent. He is currently trailing Biden in ALL the upper midwestern states that he won by slim margins in 2016. IMHO, Trump does NOT deserve a second term with his total ineptness in handling the COVID-19 pandemic and resulting economic hardship it has caused 30+ million unemployed Americans.[/QUOTE]Those same polls that ask a higher % of registered dems than Republicans who are you voting for.
Polls early are used by the media to shape a narrative or opinions.
Been that way forever.
The only polls that are dead nuts accurate are the internal polls that the campaigns pay big money for. They have to be right, or they risk losing the customer.
According to a few leaks the internal polling from Biden's camp has Biden down by 5-7 points in Pa, Wisconsin, Michigan and 6 in Florida.
And as far as the economic mess. How can put all the blame on trump.
Remember all the "models" that all The Who people were touting at the time same if don't flatten the curve, millions will die.
What did you expect anyone to do given all that what we now know was false information. , the governors were the ones to shut down the country anyways.
I blame China, and all the bureaucracy that as usual had it all wrong. Again.
You have your opinions, based on msm reporting that you take as gospel, and I have mine that's based on common sense and what I see, not what some dumbass with an agenda WANTS me to believe.
I guess we'll see here in 6 weeks who was right all along and who wasn't.
Can't wait for that day.
Going to clear up a lot of shit.
Believe any poll that is has an even sample rate.
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4981365]Chuckle, the only polls you all believe are the ones showing **** leading.
Fact: Biden doesn't repel voters like Clinton did in 2016, and that's a BIG problem for Trump.
Fact: Trump has always trailed Biden with Independents, a key voting group that will determine who wins the WH in November.[/QUOTE]Yea same way he trailed Hillary. Right up till he didn't.
There is no way you can't see that, you just don't want to.
All never Trumpers out there, READ this piece by the Head never trumper. Danielle pletka like most, inside the beltway conservative so called intellectuals, most of which have voted their entire lives to conservative values, most of which trump has supported and pushed into law as he promised. So makes you wonder just how much they REALLY wanted these things, trump has done 90% of what they devote their lives to, but because they don't like the way he talks they become never trumpers. I digress
BUT.... It Looks like they are coming to their senses.
Read this. [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-cant-stand-trump-but-democrats-may-force-me-to-vote-for-him/2020/09/14/1cf10518-f6c4-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html[/URL].
And then tell me how bad trump is compared to the New Democrats. Hint Biden IS NOT one of them.
Now be honest.
Biden has a track record as well, be fair now. LOL
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4980129]FYI, Trump has a soft support group of no more than 10 percent. The crazies that make up his core support are no more than 30-32 percent. He is currently trailing Biden in ALL the upper midwestern states that he won by slim margins in 2016. IMHO, Trump does NOT deserve a second term with his total ineptness in handling the COVID-19 pandemic and resulting economic hardship it has caused 30+ million unemployed Americans.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4980129]FYI, Trump has a soft support group of no more than 10 percent. The crazies that make up his core support are no more than 30-32 percent. He is currently trailing Biden in ALL the upper midwestern states that he won by slim margins in 2016. IMHO, Trump does NOT deserve a second term with his total ineptness in handling the COVID-19 pandemic and resulting economic hardship it has caused 30+ million unemployed Americans.[/QUOTE]Their own people that headed up the swine flu response said " We were lucky, because everything we did was wrong, we were lucky and just fortunate 100's of thousands didn't die, given that the h1 n1 wasnt nearly as contagious as covid 19. (here's the kicker) had it been I'm afraid it would have been catastrophic".
They dealt with it for almost 2 years and it finally ran its course.
How long did it take them to come up with a vaccine? Did they change any of the bureaucracy to stream line the process and get gov out of the way? NO.
They had a track record and Biden was front and center on h1 n1, by your rationale then Biden doesn't deserve to be president either, cause he damned sure didn't do much of anything right the last pandemic. By their own admission.
Yes and WHO shut it down?
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4981605]Lucky or not, please get this straight NO other pandemic, swine flu included, has had such a brutal impact on the economy as COVID-19, which has triggered a near-total shut down of social and economic activity.
The stark reality is that under President Trump's leadership, the United States has one of the highest rates of coronavirus in the world far higher than our peer nations. See attached image.
The data in the chart represents the number of cases per one million people in the United States and several other nations and, as you can see, the number of cases in the United States vastly outstrips the prevalence of coronavirus in these other nations.
The virus rages on, affecting every aspect of American life, from the economy to education to entertainment. Schools are closing down again after botched attempts to reopen, with outbreaks in universities and K-12 settings. The U.S. now has one of the worst ongoing epidemics in the world, with the most daily new cases and deaths, after controlling for population, among the developed countries.
In Europe and Asia schools are reopening and in some nations they never closed while parents struggle to balance their jobs with serving as surrogate teachers to children who can only see their regular teachers over Zoom.[/QUOTE]
Hint wasn't trump.
He wanted to reopen after just over a month, and all the democrats and bureaucracy, led by Dr fauci, the NIH, WHO, and The model guys that didn't get a thing right, not even close. They and the Media Went crazy OMG we're all gonna die,We cant reopen( not till after the elections the LA School supt.so aptly stated on her zoom call last week)cant go to school, now its the teachers fighting to not reopen schools, all this hype and lies have caused this, and most of it is being done on purpose.
just wait.. on nov 4th, all the blue states will want to reopen, and be asking the taxpayers to help them recover.
President Trump, and people like Governor desantis, Gov Kemp, and a lot of others got it right.... if not for the democrats we'd be back open country wide and economy would be humming along as it was on Feb 1 before all this.
How un-American is that? wanna talk about evil
To continue to blame this Global pandemic on trump shows you inability to be fair and honest with yourself and anyone else obviously.
Almost Every single democrat would, Tank their own states economy, and purposely hurt their own voters and supporters. All thinking its worth it to hurt trump. And if ANYONE thinks otherwise they are either Blind or stupid. Or both.
Anyone that love this country, cannot vote for the marxist, communist, ideals of the far left dems.
If its up to them this country as founded will be no more, its real and to me its scary as hell, people can't see it.
Again take out the way he talks and tweets, and focus on what has been done by him, and what's not gotten done trying to hurt him, and I'll take president trump over them anyday.
When trump is gone after 4 more years, I hope the people wake up to how corrupt the media is and how they will out and out lie and call it reporting to fit their agenda, and what damage it has done.
Its always been that way to a certain extent, but when you have news anchors actively trying to hurt one party over another, and low information voters and citizens in general believe it as the gospel and repeat it.
Making people think the other side just doesn't believe different than they do, its if you don't agree with my beliefs then you are an Evil, Racist, homophobe, xenophobe, and all the other phobes and I wish you would die.
That has all come about since 2008, and funny thing is it ALWAYS comes from the left.
Just pray to God for all our kids sakes, we get it together, or they are doomed.
Just my. 02.
Agree or not its true.
sorry for jumping around, all this is written on the Dragon speak easy and then c&p
sometimes I may mix the thoughts up during that process.... still a lot faster than typing tho
Numbers are only as good as the peoples integrity, that record them
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4981605]Lucky or not, please get this straight NO other pandemic, swine flu included, has had such a brutal impact on the economy as COVID-19, which has triggered a near-total shut down of social and economic activity.
The stark reality is that under President Trump's leadership, the United States has one of the highest rates of coronavirus in the world far higher than our peer nations. See attached image.
The data in the chart represents the number of cases per one million people in the United States and several other nations and, as you can see, the number of cases in the United States vastly outstrips the prevalence of coronavirus in these other nations.
The virus rages on, affecting every aspect of American life, from the economy to education to entertainment. Schools are closing down again after botched attempts to reopen, with outbreaks in universities and K-12 settings. The U.S. now has one of the worst ongoing epidemics in the world, with the most daily new cases and deaths, after controlling for population, among the developed countries.
In Europe and Asia schools are reopening and in some nations they never closed while parents struggle to balance their jobs with serving as surrogate teachers to children who can only see their regular teachers over Zoom.[/QUOTE]You don't think our covid 19 #'s haven't been padded for $ reasons primarily, and to try to hurt trump, secondarily??
Go talk to anyone that works in the medical examiner field and you would be shocked, how bad it is.
Even the CDC says the number of people that died from only covid 19/ corona virus was 9,800 out of the 180,00,But reported by everyone as "covid19 deaths", and that 90% of the 180,00 were over age 65,AND that 99.91% under 65 recovered just fine, They just conveniently left off those important FACTS didn't they?
Why? Not as scary when you have all the facts. Now Why would our own news organizations WANT to Scare the American people by not giving the ALL the information, I wonder hmmmmmm. Point made.
ALSO every week in the USA 22,012 on avg die from cardiac arrests what are we going to do shut down all fast food restaurants and bakeries to save them. No.
"THE VIRUS RAGES ON" as you say, but 99.91% of the people don't die, and most are'nt even hospitalized, but Yet you say "THE VIRUS RAGES ON" looks like the media ploy has worked on you my friend. Hook, line, and sinker.
Makes my head hurt.
Trump, AKA liar liar pants on fire....
[QUOTE=Mike454;4981980]Hint wasn't trump.
He wanted to reopen after just over a month, and all the democrats and bureaucracy, led by Dr fauci, the NIH, WHO, and The model guys that didn't get a thing right, not even close. They and the Media Went crazy OMG we're all gonna die,We cant reopen( not till after the elections the LA School supt.so aptly stated on her zoom call last week)cant go to school, now its the teachers fighting to not reopen schools, all this hype and lies have caused this, and most of it is being done on purpose.
[/QUOTE]Curiously, did you watch Trump's town hall meeting earlier this week? Trump unleashed a firehose of lies.
[B]Trump:[/B] "I didn't downplay it the coronavirus".
[B]Truth:[/B] Bob Woodward has Trump on tape saying: "I always wanted to downplay it".
[B]Trump:[/B]"Nobody knew the seniors are susceptible".
[B]Truth:[/B] Chinese officials emphasized this in public as early as January. The NYT published this on Jan. 23.
[B]Trump:[/B] Joe Biden said the pandemic was totally over-exaggerated.
[B]Truth:[/B] Biden said no such thingever.
[B]Trump:[/B] The cupboards were bare of ventilators when I took over.
[B]Truth:[/B] Trump inherited 19,000 ventilators from the Obama administration.
[B]Trump:[/B] "We have 20% of the cases because of the fact that we do much more testing".
[B]Truth:[/B] Testing does not create cases, it merely reveals them; the USA is 20th worldwide in tests per capita.
[B]Trump:[/B] I put a ban on travel from China and Europe to protect Americans.
[B]Truth:[/B] The bans had so many holes you could fly a fleet of 747's through them.
[B]Trump:[/B] I will make a plan that will protect people with pre-existing conditions; Democrats won't.
[B]Truth:[/B] He's promised a plan for 4 years; Democrats support the ACA, which covers pre-existing conditions.
[B]Trump:[/B] I ended Obamacare.
[B]Truth:[/B] Republicans set the tax for not having insurance to $0 but the ACA is otherwise still intact.
[B]Trump:[/B] Biden has agreed to adopt Sen. Bernie Sanders plan for socialized medicine.
[B]Truth:[/B] If he'd watched the primary debates, he'd have seen Biden repeatedly oppose Sanders' Medicare for all plan.
[B]Trump:[/B] "Black communities are 81% in favor of having more police".
[B]Truth:[/B] Actually, the poll he referenced said 20% want more police and 60% want the same amount as now.
[B]Trump:[/B] They the Seattle protesters took over a big chunk of the city 20% of the city.
[B]Truth:[/B] It was six blocks, a tiny fraction of the city.
[B]Trump:[/B] I activated the Minnesota National Guard after George Floyd was murdered.
[B]Truth:[/B] Gov. Tim Walz is the one who activated the Guard, not Trump.
[B]Trump:[/B] "I saw one form of crime in NYC up 300%.
[B]Truth:[/B] No category of crime in NYC is up 300%. It is up slightly from 2019, when it was extremely low.
[B]Trump:[/B] I fired Jim Mattis.
[B]Truth:[/B] Mattis resigned because he disagreed with Trump on many issues.
And this is only a sampler. But it may also be a preview of the first debate, which is less than 2 weeks away. If Trump is willing to blatantly lie on ABC, there is every reason to believe he will blatantly lie at the debate. This is why there needs to be a "real time" fact checker on the debate stage.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4982111]Curiously, did you watch Trump's town hall meeting earlier this week? Trump unleashed a firehose of lies.
[B]Trump:[/B] "I didn't downplay it the coronavirus".
[B]Truth:[/B] Bob Woodward has Trump on tape saying: "I always wanted to downplay it".
[B]Trump:[/B]"Nobody knew the seniors are susceptible".
[B]Truth:[/B] Chinese officials emphasized this in public as early as January. The NYT published this on Jan. 23.
[B]Trump:[/B] Joe Biden said the pandemic was totally over-exaggerated.
[B]Truth:[/B] Biden said no such thingever.
[B]Trump:[/B] The cupboards were bare of ventilators when I took over.
[B]Truth:[/B] Trump inherited 19,000 ventilators from the Obama administration.
[B]Trump:[/B] "We have 20% of the cases because of the fact that we do much more testing".
[B]Truth:[/B] Testing does not create cases, it merely reveals them; the USA is 20th worldwide in tests per capita.[/QUOTE]Obama care is going to save you $2,500 a year. Who stated that to the whole country?
Antifa is just dressed up fascism / communism under another name.
[QUOTE=Worf359;4983144]No I just listen to them talk.[/QUOTE]I got relatives that are "well off" with multiple homes, investments etc and they believe the CNN / mainstream propaganda about how "great" Antifa is. I show them countless news articles showing the violence they perpetuate on how they are crypto communist / fascists. They are totalitarian in nature and they do not believe in freedom and liberty. It's just the brownshirts 2.0 and they are getting BIG FINANCIAL BACKING by very powerful people... there is nothing organic about it.
Google "brow shirts" of Nazi germany and you will see what I mean. There is nothing new under the sun... every thing you are witnessing today has been repeated in a different country and timeline... this situation does not end well.
It's gallows humor, but I will be LAUGHING NOT CRYING if these communist freaks and their elitist backers got their way ending the constitution, property rights and my relatives lossing their comfort and properties etc. I am done warning people, let the chips fall where they may... we will become just another example of a failed state... there are already countless failed states throughout history, so time won’t care.
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“Antifa" more a figment of the far-right's lackluster imagination...
[QUOTE=Island1981;4983419]I got relatives that are "well off" with multiple homes, investments etc and they believe the CNN / mainstream propaganda about how "great" Antifa is. I show them countless news articles showing the violence they perpetuate on how they are crypto communist / fascists. They are totalitarian in nature and they do not believe in freedom and liberty. It's just the brownshirts 2.0 and they are getting BIG FINANCIAL BACKING by very powerful people... there is nothing organic about it.
Google "brow shirts" of Nazi germany and you will see what I mean. There is nothing new under the sun... every thing you are witnessing today has been repeated in a different country and timeline... this situation does not end well.
It's gallows humor, but I will be LAUGHING NOT CRYING if these communist freaks and their elitist backers got their way ending the constitution, property rights and my relatives lossing their comfort and properties etc. I am done warning people, let the chips fall where they may... we will become just another example of a failed state... there are already countless failed states throughout history, so time wont care.[/QUOTE]Ah yes Antifa; Boogeyman to Trumpanzees everywhere. You ignore the threats to national security posed by white supremacist terror groups that have headed the FBI's list of domestic dangers for years. Unfortunately, this is all part of Trump's homicidally narcissistic plan to create a race war mentality all over the country as a way of riling up his white supremacist base, fomenting violence and scaring people away from the polls.
[I][B]U.S. federal prosecutors have produced no evidence linking dozens of people arrested in anti-racism protests in Portland, Oregon, to the antifa or anarchist movements, despite President Trumps assertions they are fueling the unrest, Reuters reports.[/B][/I]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-antifa-idUSKCN2502NQ[/URL]
You know darn well they tried their damnedest to try to find a connection and the fact that they couldn't find these connections is proof of just how clever antifa really is. Clearly, antifa infiltrated the federal prosecutors.......lol
