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Thanks Not Shy Guy, sounds like I will be visitng DVCOI on my upcoming trip down to SoCal. Have a good one and be safe.
[QUOTE=Not Shy Guy;1645677]DVCOI down the street will do 30 min VIP for 150 & there are plenty of escorts who will meet for an hour for $$. So unless the girl is an absolute 10 out of 10, or offering something beyond the standard half-and-half (CBJ / FS) I'd say your money would be better spent elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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Paradise Showgirls
So I've discovered the place thanks to the helpful guys on the thread. Been there twice. Once on a Sunday night a few weeks ago, first girl that came up was a tiny curvy latina named Honey. She is from Mexico, and was laughing like crazy, I'm not THAT funny so it's probably part of her gig to be overly happy. She went straight for my little head big brain though, and I took her for a 3 for 40. Great mileage, tasty kisses and great dance. Tipped. 2 and got a manual release. This last time again on Sunday I got there at 6. Not a lot of girls, one super skinny black girl with a juicy bubble butt caught my eye but she was in the middle of a group just sitting in the corner. I was approached by a latina named Marcie. Kind of thicker than I like, but had a surprisingly nice ass. She made it clear that she would give me a good time because I was not sure I wanted a dance from her, and it paid off. Good dance, CBJ and a good cfs ride. Body was firm but feels like she either just had a kid or lipo. I probably wouldn't go back with her because of her body but if you don't mind she's actually really good.
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How much did you tip Marcie?
[QUOTE=E1775;1652188]So I've discovered the place thanks to the helpful guys on the thread. Been there twice. Once on a Sunday night a few weeks ago, first girl that came up was a tiny curvy latina named Honey. She is from Mexico, and was laughing like crazy, I'm not THAT funny so it's probably part of her gig to be overly happy. She went straight for my little head big brain though, and I took her for a 3 for 40. Great mileage, tasty kisses and great dance. Tipped. 2 and got a manual release. This last time again on Sunday I got there at 6. Not a lot of girls, one super skinny black girl with a juicy bubble butt caught my eye but she was in the middle of a group just sitting in the corner. I was approached by a latina named Marcie. Kind of thicker than I like, but had a surprisingly nice ass. She made it clear that she would give me a good time because I was not sure I wanted a dance from her, and it paid off. Good dance, CBJ and a good cfs ride. Body was firm but feels like she either just had a kid or lipo. I probably wouldn't go back with her because of her body but if you don't mind she's actually really good.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bigdan;1653262]How much did you tip Marcie?[/QUOTE]Don't. Usually two 341's get the job done.
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Was at Paradise Tuesday afternoon. Got 3 dances. I was like on of only 2 maybe 3 customers there, and there were about 8. 10 girls working.
Don't remember exact name of the first girl. She had a two part name. ___ Rose. Kayla Rose? Anyway, she was a tall skinny girl and looked really young. Black or dark long hair, unsure if white or latina. Got one 341 from her. Probably the most mild dance I've gotten at this place, but at least she actually makes an effort to dance and be sexy. Sucked on her tits and rubbed her clit a bit but not much else. She also smelled like cigarettes. But she was hot anyway.
Second girl, Selena. Latina with big bolt ons, her stomach had wrinkly skin but other than that a nice fit body, probably in her 30s. Allowed me to suck on her tits and some FIV but no extras.
Veronica, big latina girl, not sure if it's the same girl I got last time. Got 2 dances, basically allowed anything I did, gave me BBBJ immdiately and hopped on for CFS. She was doing more gyrating and less up down motion, so I couldn't finish within the 341. I told her let's stop because I wanted to sample more girls, but she sold me 2 songs for 20 so I figured why not.
That's all to report today.
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Thanks, you
[QUOTE=Mmorrison;1653427]Don't. Usually two 341's get the job done.[/QUOTE]Thank you, you are correct. In my case I just needed a one and done so I tipped her. 1 on top of the. 4 for the one 341.
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DVCOI Devon
I have a question about Devon. I have only read highly negative reviews about her and that she is a ROB that doesn't perform as promised. I got a dance with her a month ago and only after the dance found out she was Devon (I have trouble asking their names before the dance, a lot of the times I can't hear their name correctly due to the music / noise). She did seem a bit distant and immediately offered me extras for an additional tip. I declined as I just wanted a dance. I would rate her dance as a 2 on the DVCOI yahoo group scale, which I consider to be average (though she didn't seem too into it).
The dance got me ready so I eventually paid for a handshake and she did put a lot of effort into that (probably because of the additional tip). All in all, I didn't think she was as bad as previous posters have mentioned. I have definitely had worse dances at DVCOI. Can someone give examples of what she does that makes her so bad?
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[QUOTE=Akara; 1655234]I have a question about Devon. I have only read highly negative reviews about her and that she is a ROB that doesn't perform as promised. I got a dance with her a month ago and only after the dance found out she was Devon (I have trouble asking their names before the dance, a lot of the times I can't hear their name correctly due to the music / noise). She did seem a bit distant and immediately offered me extras for an additional tip. I declined as I just wanted a dance. I would rate her dance as a 2 on the DVCOI yahoo group scale, which I consider to be average (though she didn't seem too into it).
The dance got me ready so I eventually paid for a handshake and she did put a lot of effort into that (probably because of the additional tip). All in all, I didn't think she was as bad as previous posters have mentioned. I have definitely had worse dances at DVCOI. Can someone give examples of what she does that makes her so bad?[/QUOTE]Devon is freaking adorable if you like latina spinners like I do. She's not a bit*h and maybe not even an intentional ROB. Doesn't seem she means to be evil like other ROBs, but she's as profoundly stupid as she is adorable and comes across as not even knowing what she's supposed to do in a lap dance. As if she thinks dudes are paying just to have her sit on their laps topless and yap away. One guy said she actually initiated a phone call during a lap dance!
I had the worst dance from her I've ever experienced. She faced away from me sitting down low on my thighs so I couldn't even reach her, and did nothing. I told her to turn around and face me and she did. But still playing defense but I didn't really push it. I'm not going to be enjoying it if I have to virtually force some access and action out of the girl. Then she starts chatting away and gets into telling me about a civil lawsuit she's contemplating. She wants me to detail how she should go about it and how much will she net. Wow did I want to get out of there. I figured if she wasn't so obsessed with this altercation she had in Hollywood leading to the lawsuit that it would have been different, but OMG c'mon chica!
The important detail you omitted is how much did she ask for the "handshake" and did she ask for the tip upfront? Anything more on the menu? I had of course completely written her off. Hell, maybe file a lawsuit against her! LOL! However if she approaches me again I might go right into a solicitation for extras instead of serving her with a civil summons for fraud and breach of contract. Let the little head take over. She did ask me to go to the VIP but I said no so fast that no details were discussed. She is well known for the immediate upsell. But if you don't go for it, you end up completely wasting your time and scratching you're head in disbelief when the red light mercifully comes on.
But the chica is so cute and if she does extras, maybe I'll shoot myself up with heroin, drink a bottle of Tequila next door, and enter the club completely suppressing any memory of that 1st dance. With all I've written I still haven't come close to describing the absurdity of it. You had to experience it to believe it.
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Devon
Devon is horrible. I was the one who was getting a lap dance and as she was sitting on my lap, she started texting someone. I'm not talking about a quick reply but a full on texting conversation. I had to stop her and say WTF? She was probably the WORST dance I have ever received. And I've got a lot of of dances (and good ones). She may be cute but that's about it. The dance itself was BAD! To the guy who had an ok experience with her, good for you. I'm sure most girls would give a better dance with a tip but in MY opinion, my money would be better spent on someone else.
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[QUOTE=The Camel; 1655928]Devon is freaking adorable if you like latina spinners like I do. She's not a bit*h and maybe not even an intentional ROB. Doesn't seem she means to be evil like other ROBs, but she's as profoundly stupid as she is adorable and comes across as not even knowing what she's supposed to do in a lap dance. As if she thinks dudes are paying just to have her sit on their laps topless and yap away. One guy said she actually initiated a phone call during a lap dance!
I had the worst dance from her I've ever experienced. She faced away from me sitting down low on my thighs so I couldn't even reach her, and did nothing. I told her to turn around and face me and she did. But still playing defense but I didn't really push it. I'm not going to be enjoying it if I have to virtually force some access and action out of the girl. Then she starts chatting away and gets into telling me about a civil lawsuit she's contemplating. She wants me to detail how she should go about it and how much will she net. Wow did I want to get out of there. I figured if she wasn't so obsessed with this altercation she had in Hollywood leading to the lawsuit that it would have been different, but OMG see'mon chica!
The important detail you omitted is how much did she ask for the "handshake" and did she ask for the tip upfront? Anything more on the menu? I had of course completely written her off. Hell, maybe file a lawsuit against her! LOL! However if she approaches me again I might go right into a solicitation for extras instead of serving her with a civil summons for fraud and breach of contract. Let the little head take over. She did ask me to go to the VIP but I said no so fast that no details were discussed. She is well known for the immediate upsell. But if you don't go for it, you end up completely wasting your time and scratching you're head in disbelief when the red light mercifully comes on.[/QUOTE]Wow, the 2 experiences I just read are quite bad. I can sorta see what you mean about her not knowing what she's supposed to do, from her demeanor, I can easily imagine her chatting away with you.
Here's a detailed account of my experience. She basically immediately offered a HJ for $20 or a CBJ for $40. After a sec, I think she thought the price was too low and then raised her price for $40 and $60. I declined and just got a lapdance. She pretty much gave me full access up above, I didn't try below. She did chat a bit about her stage dance. I wasnt expecting to much but after a minute or two I got warmed up and opted for a HJ. She gave a good effort in that job and I was happy with it (she was relatively passive during the dance beforehand).
She provided the extra as offered, I did pay beforehand though. I hear stories of her not holding up her end of the deal and thats what I was wondering about. I remember reading that she didn't provide as promised in the VIP room for some people. She did half-heartedly ask if I wanted to go to the VIP area early in the dance, but I declined as I had no idea if there was any extras involved.
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Cody and Kristy Paradise
So I went by Paradise again for a quick stop a few days ago Thurs at around 5. Finally saw Jess, she is smoking hot. But she did the whole walk up and ask if I want a dance without sitting down thing. I don't like that because it seems like she's rushing for quick money and will be distant. I said to ask again, tried extending the convo to see if she would sit down (if she had I'd of def gotten the dance she's hot) but she never did. So she walked away. Got bad mood vibes from her. Saw Honey but wanted to wait for Jess. Dancer named Kristy (Christie?) sat down next to me. A bit taller and bigger than I like, glasses, but an amazing ass and a great personality. I almost got a dance with her just based on how cool she was but I decided to wait again. If anyone has had any action from her I'd like to know because she seems cool. Then came Cody, she was a cute latina. Not much up top but a nice body, and she sat down with me and was really cool too. Told me Jess is cool but can have certain moods sometimes. I was running out of time and Kristy was talking to someone so I took her up for a dance. She was really nice, not a clock watcher and seemed determined to make me leave happy with just the grinding. No UHM, but a good dance from a good petite girl with some good grindage. I'm still curious about Kristy though. For Ben Davis, I asked and the dancers say Harmony still works there but hasn't been in for weeks. Says she'll disappear and suddenly come back almost every day. Pretty much comes when she wants.
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Deja Vu and Synn
New to the area, starting a new account, went to DVCOI and Synn recently. No alcohol in clubs here sucks, but since the "topless bars" are so bad in the area, got to work with what I have.
Synn was not crowded, but had a dozen or so dancers at night. This place is rather small with limited seating, and a stage with a single dancer at a time. There were a surprising amount of very overweight customers here, yeah, so much so that I'm actually posting that in a report. Not many good looking ladies in this place, but a few reasonable. Waited for a 341 and got one of the better ones. Lame dance, limited privacy. Tried another dancer to be sure on the next 341, same situation. I'm guessing VIP is the only place worth while. I also had the feeling both dances were cut shorter than 3 songs worth of time during the 341. Went back again the next week hoping for a change in girls, had one dance and same result, so I left. Price for a soda or water is a bit excessive too, I mean what the hell? I already paid to get in and you don't have alcohol, just give me a coke.
Deja Vu after Synn that night, far better experience, in fact a very good club. The place has tons of seating, the talent its diverse, good, and plentiful, pretty much whatever you want is available. 3 for 2 specials at the electronic booths, it seems like there is little reason not to get a 3 for 2 here, probably the best deal around. Moderate-to-good privacy. Went through a handful of dancers, all except one were top notch dances and free roam. The bad one has already been mentioned recently so I won't repeat it. The larger breasted girls seems to be much more receptive than the small skinny ones I will say. Didn't go to VIP, but was made obviously clear by several ladies that getting a ticket in to there would have got me a fun time. Not sure the of the availability in the regular booths, but I'm guessing it would not have been a stretch. I would also be wrong not to mention, the hottest girls in this place are the waitresses, a few were simply gorgeous. Too bad the waitresses don't dance as they do in other parts of the country.
Paradise seems interesting, but I prefer betting looking ladies, and it seems that may not be the place to go for it. Might try Spearmint Rhino soon just to check it out, but after going to Deja Vu, I see little reason to sample elsewhere, considering the high quality for lowish price.
I do want to say as someone who mostly went to clubs elsewhere, it seems odd that patrons in CA clubs can simply lock down a lady for hours on end at their tables (not in dances) and this is tolerated by the girls and clubs. And if all the pretty ladies are in lock down, its a race to get whatever is left over. I've never seen that tolerated elsewhere, with the exception of high-class bottle service, where they ladies are drinking for free.
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[QUOTE=Blueman22; 1658034]New to the area, starting a new account, went to DVCOI and Synn recently. No alcohol in clubs here sucks, but since the "topless bars" are so bad in the area, got to work with what I have.
Synn was not crowded, but had a dozen or so dancers at night. This place is rather small with limited seating, and a stage with a single dancer at a time. There were a surprising amount of very overweight customers here, yeah, so much so that I'm actually posting that in a report. Not many good looking ladies in this place, but a few reasonable. Waited for a 341 and got one of the better ones. Lame dance, limited privacy. Tried another dancer to be sure on the next 341, same situation. I'm guessing VIP is the only place worth while. I also had the feeling both dances were cut shorter than 3 songs worth of time during the 341. Went back again the next week hoping for a change in girls, had one dance and same result, so I left. Price for a soda or water is a bit excessive too, I mean what the hell? I already paid to get in and you don't have alcohol, just give me a coke.
Deja Vu after Synn that night, far better experience, in fact a very good club....[/QUOTE]Wow what an interesting review with you bringing a fresh perspective of somebody who probably has lived or spent time in cities that can be regarded as strip club meccas. I'm guessing you come here from a place like Tampa or other large Florida city, or maybe Dallas or Houston, East St. Louis. Possibly even Portland, Ore which has a very live club scene. Not Vegas since they have the same alcohol rules that California has.
Most local guys who haven't traveled to clubs around the USA think its really happening here but IME, the locations I mentioned and some other cities have a higher quantity and quality of talent than SoCal and the clubs can really hop with party spirit. Still can't get over the talent I encountered all over Tampa and especially the famous Mons Venus. Shit, it was like the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders or SI swimsuit models were working there! I am friends with an ex-COI dancer who is now in a high paying legit profession outside California. She is drop dead gorgeous to my eyes, the best personality ever, and she was a wildly generous and enthusiastic provider in her club's VIP room who undercharged her lucky customers. But when she decided to spend her summer break from college stripping in Houston, she couldn't get hired in a decent club. Unfuckingbelievable! Oh, she was hot enough for sure, but she has a single prominent large tattoo and the Houston clubs had enough beautiful girls willing to work on the wild side, but still with pristine "body canvasses" that they wouldn't hire her. I didn't like the tat myself but hell, she was otherwise the most complete package you'd be looking for in a dancer around here.
I am a little surprised that you were so dissatisfied with the mileage and talent at Synn. I only go a couple times a year and always during the day so I don't know the night scene. But daytime has got some very nice lookers most of the time. Its true that most don't put out to the point of overt extras in regular booth dances, but mileage can still be excellent with soft sensual GFE grinds, mutual molestation, undefended flesh to grope and caress as you please including FIV.
You also run into the phenomenon of clubs around here that will be everything you want some of the time, and nothing that you want the rest of the time. DVCOI really qualifies as talent and mileage are extremely inconsistent and lately it has been a serious downer for me when I go. Usually during the day. But WTF, I dragged myself back there last week and a couple of dancers were just OK, but 4 very hot ones offered me reasonably priced extras in the topless booths. Actually I've experienced 2 of them and they never hit me up for a tip at all. However, I donated modestly anyway. I always tip for hardcore action and never for anything short of hardcore action. Hell, if nobody tips good looking dancers who are generous in their favors, then we just end up with droopy desperate sad sack sluts in the long run.
There are a few clubs around the area that have generally hotter dancers than you find in COI, but prices are higher and mileage is lower.
The problem around SoCal is IMO the lack of booze in the nude clubs. So you end up with a large number of clubs spread all over the place with low customer counts and low hiring standards. In cities like Houston and Tampa, you'll have fewer clubs but they will be big deal operations that are hopping and the top talent is consolidated, and its a party with the crowd being large and socially lubricated. Clubs around here aren't as high spirited. But there some clubs that draw a crowd on most nights, and I DVCOI is one of them.
You make a great point about the "lock down" situation which is hard to understand. Clearly SoCal clubs don't micro manage their dancers. Part of that could be about the economic arrangement where the girls have to pay to work and the talent is stretched so thin among the dozens of clubs that the talent is fat! If the girls feel like being lazy, most club managers won't bug them. Even if the stage is empty for long stretches of time and most dudes are sitting alone with a cup of water pissed off that nothing is going on. Though empty stages are not an issue in DVCOI or Synn. See, something you still have to look forward to.
BTW, one of the DVCOI dancers who offered me extras on Saturday afternoon was that "bad dancer" who you didn't mention. Yeah, I assume you mean Devon. I had a candid talk with her when she hit me up and she earned herself a measure of redemption. Will save that for another post.
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[QUOTE=The Camel;1658243]Wow what an interesting review with you bringing a fresh perspective of somebody who probably has lived or spent time in cities that can be regarded as strip club meccas. I'm guessing you come here from a place like Tampa or other large Florida city, or maybe Dallas or Houston, East St. Louis. Possibly even Portland, Ore which has a very live club scene. Not Vegas since they have the same alcohol rules that California has.[/QUOTE]Thanks man for the input back, I thought it would be worthwhile to get an outside perspective after reading a bit. I've been all over, and frankly there are so many bad and / or ghetto / gross clubs, that when I find a place like Deja Vu, I for sure consider it good. It is quite cheap- all around, and 3 for 2 dances, good mileage, good enough women. It ain't Vegas or Tampa etc, but for SoCal and considering all the other aspects of it, you got a good thing going here. Its not the pinnacle of hot chicks, mileage, or selection, but it is a very good combination of all of it, that goes a long way in my book. No alcohol sucks though.
I vastly prefer to drink and goto topless clubs, but in socal, these topless clubs are sometimes just glorified bikini or gogo bars, where girls occasionally take their tops of on stage, but dances, except VIP, are just bikini dances, kinda not worth the trouble and expensive drinks. Unless anyone can recommend a good one, I've been to a few over the years in LA / OC / SD, and they are all questionable. Even knew a few girls that danced topless in socal, and even they didn't really consider it a big deal stripping since they only took their tops off for 10 minutes or so a shift, if even that depending on how much they paid the club to dance. [For anyone who doesn't know, the girls pay the club a fee to work, some places allow them to pay extra for certain perks such as not dancing on stage]
I can see that these places may be hit or miss, I missed huge at Synn and did well at DV, I also go only at night so that will be a different experience than the day, especially that these places are open till 3 or 4am instead of closing at 1:30. It could make for some long odd nights. I'm guessing Synn would be a better daytime club.
Forgot to mention tips, I was hit up for them, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I just feel it out, I usually do not like to do unless in the same situation you said, but occasionally for a good performance I don't mind.
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Paradise w / Texas
Went to paradise last night. It was slim pickins for the most part. They called texas's name and I remember having an amazing encounter with her over a year ago, so long ago, in fact, that I couldn't even remember what she looked like. All that came to mind was that she was on the thicker side and had a bubbly personality, of which I was quite fond. I waited for to finish her dance with a young guy so I could have my turn. Finally she came over and immediately sat on top of me and started grinding and seemed super into me. She couldnt remember exactly if we had done anything before, that is, until we went to the back. As soon as we get back there, I had my pants readily unbuttoned, and while this girl is much bigger than my taste (and me) , for some reason she turns me on. We start making out, and I get rock hard. She began to tease me by sucking on my abs, and made her way southward. Then it got good. She pulls junior out and starts the oral extravaganza, which was beyond good. Instead of guiding her head downward, I gently supported her throat which was literally filled with dick. I'm not a super hung dude, but I'm pretty ok size according to most of the girls I've been with, and tex. Devoured all 7 in of meat like she was at Morton's. This goes on for quite some time, and it was feeling so good. By the second set, I had to stop her at the first and second song just to get through the set. By the third song (of my second 341) , I was totally ready to blow. I told her to go as deep as she could (to the balls) and I drained it all down her lovely little throat. She even did that whole sucking on the tip to get every last drop like in the pornos. It was pretty fantastic. I tipped her twenty not because she asked, but because she truly deserved it. What a pleaser. After the whole thing, she remembered who i was. I might go back for seconds. It so hard to pass up.