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[QUOTE=BigMack;3082841]Agreed to meet my wishes but at a price too high for me. My post at no time mentioned her name as I do not do so. She outed herself why I do not know. I clearly state what I am looking for publicly but also do other methods of meeting my needs. There are a number of well known ladies who do play naturally and set parameters to do so and there is no established clear market value I am aware of for natural play. It is the woman's choice and the man's to say no. I am sorry she felt the need to come out publicly. My relationships are sought to be symbiotic not parasitic but my time and money are valuable just as a woman's are. If a lady is to high for me I let her know as it is the fruits of my labor involved. That doesn't make me a parasite It does make me a selective shopper. And yes I travel to find what I want but clearly state what I am looking for to give choices. Sometimes I settle for less which is fine. Again her name was NEVER MENTIONED BY ME and why she came on the board instead of going PM I do not know but she did so I did not out her publicly for offering BBFS she stated succinctly she would by offering me a rate for it. Case closed. Again whether you agree with me and my wants is your business but let me state for the record there are a number of quality ladies on the boards who offer it at much less so I do assess the risks for their needs to meet mine. I just do not divulge who meets my needs and would not do so. Enjoy the rest of the week.[/QUOTE]I know you didn't name her, never said you did, but she obviously felt strongly enough to make a post. I will assume it was the freckles popping out because the issue was brought up in open forum which everyone knows only generates back channel inquiries. My post never mentioned hers or any other providers names but let's face it Mwdude was right on, why even bring it up?

My point was a provider who will not provide the services you request may say they will but at an established price so unreasonable to the hobbyist that the hobbyist will decline. They do this to keep peace and because they are consistently asked the same question over and over and when they say NO 15 times they eventually say yes but at a price above the hobbyist's market value because it's easier than saying NO again and they hope that ends it. Sometimes what some providers don't realize is now the door is open to NEGOTIATE the price and the hobbyist becomes relentless in his pursuit of price vs desired service.

[B]Providers please make a note here:[/B] If you don't want to provide any type of service, I don't care what it is, then the answer to a request should be. [B][red]"Dear Mr. Hobbyist. I appreciate the request but unfortunately I cannot meet your needs in regards to the services you would like. To be clear, those services are not on my menu and never will be no matter how desperate I get or how many times you request them. If you are interested in my offered menu and at my offered price then please let me know. However if you continue to request the services I DO NOT offer then I can only perceive that not respecting my wishes is the same as not respecting me and all forms of communication will cease."[/red][/B].

My friend, I am happy that you found a provider to meet whatever needs you desire and that is a mutually beneficial or positive symbiotic relationship. I never said your relationship's weren't symbiotic but your persistence with some providers is parasitic. I don't care what you and a provider do behind closed doors, that's between you and her. As you said "There are a number of well known ladies who do play naturally and set parameters to do so and there is no established clear market value I am aware of for natural play. " Please by all means be a selective shopper and find the service you desire at a market price palatable to you. Especially when there are so many available to provide you with the type of service you request. When you find the one's that say they won't or the ones that say they will above your market price then move on to the next fish in the sea, just don't be a Lymphocystis.

Years ago I used to ride to establishments that other motorcycle enthusiasts would frequent. Some would comment on the paint work on my bike, and I would tell them that I had done it, for that is one of my three talents. (juggling and burping the alphabet being the other two) So people would ask me to paint their bikes. I did it at first for below market value because I enjoyed both doing the work, and helping someone out. I then became so busy, that I found myself working on everyone else's bike, instead of riding my own. So then I would only take on work during the winter time. Still, what was once fun was now a chore. So I began quoting astronomical prices to deter individuals from wanting to use my services. However a few times this backfired, and I was stuck doing the work, although at a much higher rate. Eventually I had had enough and just let everyone know that I was no longer interested in doing paint work anymore. I felt bad at first, like I was letting everyone down, but a pint of Haagen-Dazs vanilla helped to heal my pain.

All of this story is pretty much pointless, except that I've wasted one of my three talents, and there are a few similarities with this story, and the current situation that has unfolded upon this board. Everyone relax, and have fun!! The world isn't really that serious, after all!

Kyussfan.

This thread is so entertaining just can't help but stir.

The post should never have been made.

The title G P of month was sad. To me gps is a term used by pissed off mongers who can't get a provider to fuck them at mongers price. Whats GPS to you isn't to someone else so if you can't afford them say thanks but to rich for me and move on. Don't cry about it or get pissed. Its called life. Move on \o a girl who is in your range.

Last time I checked no means no. Once used the topic is closed. A provider shouldn't have to make a page disclaimer on anything. No ends conversation.

Now with that said was a price even talked about before you got the clean bill of health then raised? If that happened then you would have grounds for a complaint. If you never asked the price before doing this its ba: k on you again.

Its not rocket science.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3083003]I know you didn't name her, never said you did, but she obviously felt strongly enough to make a post. I will assume it was the freckles popping out because the issue was brought up in open forum which everyone knows only generates back channel inquiries. My post never mentioned hers or any other providers names but let's face it Mwdude was right on, why even bring it up?

My point was a provider who will not provide the services you request may say they will but at an established price so unreasonable to the hobbyist that the hobbyist will decline. They do this to keep peace and because they are consistently asked the same question over and over and when they say NO 15 times they eventually say yes but at a price above the hobbyist's market value because it's easier than saying NO again and they hope that ends it. Sometimes what some providers don't realize is now the door is open to NEGOTIATE the price and the hobbyist becomes relentless in his pursuit of price vs desired service.

[B]Providers please make a note here:[/B] If you don't want to provide any type of service, I don't care what it is, then the answer to a request should be. [B][red]"Dear Mr. Hobbyist. I appreciate the request but unfortunately I cannot meet your needs in regards to the services you would like. To be clear, those services are not on my menu and never will be no matter how desperate I get or how many times you request them. If you are interested in my offered menu and at my offered price then please let me know. However if you continue to request the services I DO NOT offer then I can only perceive that not respecting my wishes is the same as not respecting me and all forms of communication will cease."[/red][/B].

My friend, I am happy that you found a provider to meet whatever needs you desire and that is a mutually beneficial or positive symbiotic relationship. I never said your relationship's weren't symbiotic but your persistence with some providers is parasitic. I don't care what you and a provider do behind closed doors, that's between you and her. As you said "There are a number of well known ladies who do play naturally and set parameters to do so and there is no established clear market value I am aware of for natural play. " Please by all means be a selective shopper and find the service you desire at a market price palatable to you. Especially when there are so many available to provide you with the type of service you request. When you find the one's that say they won't or the ones that say they will above your market price then move on to the next fish in the sea, just don't be a Lymphocystis.[/QUOTE]Your concern is duly noted FF and appreciate the responses. You comment in red would have alleviated all the responses that were generated. If you do not want to do something just SAY NO NOT FOR ANY AMOUNT. When parameters are discussed and set then one deduces that the answer is yes under the following conditions. I took her at her word Thanks again FF and have a good weekend.

[QUOTE=Kyussfan;3083039]All of this story is pretty much pointless, except that I've wasted one of my three talents, and there are a few similarities with this story, and the current situation that has unfolded upon this board. Everyone relax, and have fun!! The world isn't really that serious, after all![/QUOTE]You, my friend, would not know a serious statement if it jumped up and bit you. You are too far gone in the land of humor and sarcasm. I like to hang out on your side of the tracks because it is much more fun than the other side. BTW you may not know a serious statement biting you but you would spot it a mile away if wrote anywhere on MMGEG's legs!

Sincerely Signed,

The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S. - I am going to be starting my own website, [URL]usasexdictionary.info[/URL]. It is solely going to be a repository of words that are used on this forum that generally require a dictionary lookup when there are several other ways it can be said that are obvious to everyone.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3082932]It's NOT your style?? Oh come on BM WE all know your style and ditto if YOU had a issue you could if PM'Ed her and we know how smart you are and how you come across. You have done that to several providers sorry sir but you have. YOU knew what you were doing. So DON'T get offensive when people are defending AJ because YOU were being disrespectful and don't start accusing people of " white knighting " when you were in the wrong. Don't act like your innocent here. You opened this door.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3082932]It's NOT your style?? Oh come on BM WE all know your style and ditto if YOU had a issue you could if PM'Ed her and we know how smart you are and how you come across. You have done that to several providers sorry sir but you have. YOU knew what you were doing. So DON'T get offensive when people are defending AJ because YOU were being disrespectful and don't start accusing people of " white knighting " when you were in the wrong. Don't act like your innocent here. You opened this door.[/QUOTE]The lady made an offer with parameters and I accepted. The main one was to get a clean bill of health which I was willing to do. Before I went I asked her needs for our encounter and she gave me a figure which was way off the charts. If she didn't want to do anything JUST SAY SO. She gave me a number. Now assuming she was willing to do it I would have expected her to also have a clean bill of health. Make sense? Does to me. I am not the first to complain about women who have the golden p syndrome and won't be the last so save your self righteousness for those who buy into it. Not me. You have changed your rates more than once which we have discussed and when asked why "WELL I AM WORTH MORE" Fair enough but so have others in this. If you are making such good money charge what you can. I'll say it one last time MMGEG if I would have wanted to blast AJ I would have publicly put her name out in public forum like some ladies have done recently as one man pointed out to me. I have never done that to a woman and unless one REALLY PISSES ME OFF won't. There was no need for her to respond and publish her story. Again alluding to FF's statement If you do not want to do something SAY NO. Please however accept the reality that many times although women say no they change their minds for whatever reason. They have to me when trying to find alternative methods of play and will continue to do so in the future. She could have said nothing and it would have all passed on and ended there. As for Pming her before the post I did and told her that in my opinion there was not an 800 dollar POA in Indiana and she was way too high. Just my opinion and protecting my dollars to make them go further. I get a CBOH so should other ladies who want to do this. Reduce the risks reduce the prices. Isn't that what ladies say it is a risky business so test. In that case everyone should do so. Simple economics. Have a good day MMGEG.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3082913]If my purpose was to embarrass I would have named names I did not. I am not altruistic When I have something to say I do PERIOD. If AJ wanted to deal with she could have done so PM Plain and simple. Feel secure in knowing that you have done your job as a board savior and white knight for the oppressed ladies of USASG. If Want to embarrass anyone I am quite capable of it but not my style. My post could have been about any of a number of ladies on this and other boards but was not nor as I stated where names mentioned Unless you are a great mind reader if she had not appeared to "defend her honor" when no names were mentioned you wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in hell of knowing who it was about. So get off your horse and go back to doing whatever it is you do best.[/QUOTE]Funny stuff, Mack. Publicly posting in some amount of detail about an exchange between two people that neither intended to be public UNTIL YOU POSTED ABOUT IT ON A PUBLIC FORUM. Names or not, you only post something like that if you want everyone to read it, including her, which is baiting the trap. Sadly for her, she bit.

So the terms "discreet" and "private" clearly mean something different to you. Something quite different than the actual definitions in our technologically advanced society.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3083092]This thread is so entertaining just can't help but stir.

The post should never have been made.

The title G P of month was sad. To me gps is a term used by pissed off mongers who can't get a provider to fuck them at mongers price. Whats GPS to you isn't to someone else so if you can't afford them say thanks but to rich for me and move on. Don't cry about it or get pissed. Its called life. Move on \o a girl who is in your range.

Last time I checked no means no. Once used the topic is closed. A provider shouldn't have to make a page disclaimer on anything. No ends conversation.

Now with that said was a price even talked about before you got the clean bill of health then raised? If that happened then you would have grounds for a complaint. If you never asked the price before doing this its ba: k on you again.

Its not rocket science.[/QUOTE]So the one example I can give is a provider down in Louisville I gave a flattering review to and I rated her 4 stars. On the site there was a definition for each star level, 3 being "meets expectations" 4 being "exceeds expectations" and 5 being "excelen toe elite". She proceeded to put a comment below the review to in box her for an explanation about "what happened" and she wished she could review the guys. Mean while she is attractive and gave good service, I reserved the 5 star for only my best experiences. Such as Abby Amore. So this provider had such GPS that she couldn't even accept a good review unless it was just totally kissing her ass and over valuing her contribution to the Hobby.

You make some valid points but most of us turn into babies when the poon-nani is denied us. "Wah! Wah! I want the pussy!" Who hasn't cried that a time or two?

[QUOTE=AuroraJade2;3082168]It should be noted that the client asked for BBFS. If a provider asks for a high donation then maybe it's because there is high risks involved.[/QUOTE]Just a small note of contention here. AJ did not out herself. No where in this post does she say that it was her. It was BM that named her in his next posting. Just a small detail. Now, can we move on to another subject? I only met AJ once and she was fully clothed. Our schedules have a hard time lining up. What's the freckle count?

Dave.

I don't think this one is just going to go away that quick Dave. How many seasons has Springer been on the air? I do agree AJ never outed herself that was all BMack. She was silly enough to come to the prickyard of all places poking a stick at a mad dog though.
One has the option of steering clear of a confrontational drama driven forum. One also has the option of being a gentleman, but I guess that's why this forum was created. To vent, throw a tantrum or just sulk. I think BM 's first post was acceptable on this forum, His opinion.

If anything should be taken from this, FF said it best, "just say NO. "

To thank AJ for her kind email thanking me for increasing her business tremendously due to the post. She even gave me an invite to come see her down the road if I bring her donation and meet her parameters for my needs. It does show that the lady has real "class" I of course have to refuse as I believe that an STD test is only as good as ones first client or provider so since business is booming for her the timing would have to be impeccable and worked out with the assurances that BOTH of us would have to have a clean bill of health with no client / provider interactions before the deed is consumated since her business is doing so well from her plethora of offerings. Thanks AJ you are a benevolent lady with a "giving demeanor" and I am sure many men are smiling due to your open spirit of giving. Have a good weekend to you and to all of those caring men of USASG who are taking advantage of her giving and $$weet attitude towards the men who "love" her.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3086887]To thank AJ for her kind email thanking me for increasing her business tremendously due to the post. She even gave me an invite to come see her down the road if I bring her donation and meet her parameters for my needs. It does show that the lady has real "class" I of course have to refuse as I believe that an STD test is only as good as ones first client or provider so since business is booming for her the timing would have to be impeccable and worked out with the assurances that BOTH of us would have to have a clean bill of health with no client / provider interactions before the deed is consumated since her business is doing so well from her plethora of offerings. Thanks AJ you are a benevolent lady with a "giving demeanor" and I am sure many men are smiling due to your open spirit of giving. Have a good weekend to you and to all of those caring men of USASG who are taking advantage of her giving and $$weet attitude towards the men who "love" her.[/QUOTE]Move on, nothing to see here, move along.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3086887]To thank AJ for her kind email thanking me for increasing her business tremendously due to the post. She even gave me an invite to come see her down the road if I bring her donation and meet her parameters for my needs. It does show that the lady has real "class" I of course have to refuse as I believe that an STD test is only as good as ones first client or provider so since business is booming for her the timing would have to be impeccable and worked out with the assurances that BOTH of us would have to have a clean bill of health with no client / provider interactions before the deed is consumated since her business is doing so well from her plethora of offerings. Thanks AJ you are a benevolent lady with a "giving demeanor" and I am sure many men are smiling due to your open spirit of giving. Have a good weekend to you and to all of those caring men of USASG who are taking advantage of her giving and $$weet attitude towards the men who "love" her.[/QUOTE]It's become a pissing match, and while you might have the tools for better aim, I don't think you're doing yourself any favors competing. I've respected you in the past, I've been there when I've felt mislead and it seems no one is on my side, and I understand why you were irritated. But this isn't working for you. Let it go. I don't think the insinuation that she's doing a bunch of BBFS is fair either, since, as she asked you for 800 bones, I doubt anyone on this board is going to be ponying up those kinds of funds. And FTR, I've never met her, haven't tried, and was not nor am now trying to. Just hate seeing you go down this road. Seems only to be hurting yourself.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3087124]It's become a pissing match, and while you might have the tools for better aim, I don't think you're doing yourself any favors competing. I've respected you in the past, I've been there when I've felt mislead and it seems no one is on my side, and I understand why you were irritated. But this isn't working for you. Let it go. I don't think the insinuation that she's doing a bunch of BBFS is fair either, since, as she asked you for 800 bones, I doubt anyone on this board is going to be ponying up those kinds of funds. And FTR, I've never met her, haven't tried, and was not nor am now trying to. Just hate seeing you go down this road. Seems only to be hurting yourself.[/QUOTE]Like you doubt anyone on her would be fatuous enough to drop 8 bills no matter how good she is in the hay with or without raincoats. She sent me a zinger I returned the flavor. I am done with this and moving on so nuf is enuf. She is welcome to the last word. Have a good day T2. Mack.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3087124]It's become a pissing match, and while you might have the tools for better aim, I don't think you're doing yourself any favors competing. I've respected you in the past, I've been there when I've felt mislead and it seems no one is on my side, and I understand why you were irritated. But this isn't working for you. Let it go. I don't think the insinuation that she's doing a bunch of BBFS is fair either, since, as she asked you for 800 bones, I doubt anyone on this board is going to be ponying up those kinds of funds. And FTR, I've never met her, haven't tried, and was not nor am now trying to. Just hate seeing you go down this road. Seems only to be hurting yourself.[/QUOTE]Let him go, TIA. We need to be able to see the true selves of both providers and mongers.