The Massholes

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2119191]The whole 'rating' of a providers looks can be so subjective. At least when putting a rating on performance you can have some sort of guidelines to go by. For a massage / bodyrub girl it can be quality of massage (therapeutic of not), tease, state of undress and what type and how good was the ending. When it comes to looks it certainly has many attributes some of which are important to some and some aren't. Are we talking beauty as in facial features, hair (color, length, curly ect) , teeth (LOL), body type (tall, short, spinner, normal (chubby). And do we include personality it our ratings? Is the fact that she is under 30 add points to her rating and conversely if she is over 30 does it take away points?

I've gone to see providers that I was told were a 7 or higher and found that they weren't that at least in my attributes. Years ago I was given a tip that a girl that was in the area was a 10 and I had to go see her. Well I did. Was she pretty yes. Did she have a decent body yes. But she was a Russian girl who spoke no English, understood no English and showed no enthusiasm for what she was doing. I wouldn't have given her a 10 and recommended her but I could see how someone would. When asked how I would rate someone I usually give examples rather than a number.

It also depends on what you like. For instance I enjoy more mature ladies as opposed to younger 'spinners'. While that has a lot to do with my age. Which just went up again this week. There are other traits that I look for many of which several of you have mentioned. As HH said he likes them under 25, over a 7 and under a certain weight. That's the wonderful part of life. Everyone has their own picture of 'nirvana'.[/QUOTE]And many more to come.

When I asked about her rating herself, I meant physical appearance only. I know already she is smart, pleasant, intelligent, and friendly by her posts. Oh, and I almost forgot, long winded with her posts, but that's not a bad thing when person to person. I think it would be interesting what a 10,25 years ago, would be today by her own measure.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2117482][URL]http://massachusetts.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/bukkake-party-32/26626432[/URL] If I were a guy and saw this ad I would think it was a LEO plant. Imagine how many men they could arrest all in one shot, one by one walking the plank. It's so blatantly not discreet! But it does sound like fun if it's real and much more fun that those glory holes you guys like to talk about LOL. At least you'd be able to see who's sucking off your dicks!

A question. I've had this discussion with some women and we were wondering. Well I'm wondering too, because I don't understand it. Let's say there are two escorts:

Escort number 1: 28 years old, five foot tall, 220 lbs, she has a dimpled, cellulite ass and fat legs, saggy big tits and stretch marks all over. She does have a pretty face though.

Escort number 2: Let' say she's 45 years old, hot body, perfect shape, nice large boobs that don't sag, no cellulite or stretch marks. And her face is obviously not of a youngin, but she's very pretty.

Question is, which one is more desirable? Age or body type?[/QUOTE]Body type!

All else being equal, I'll take the 45 year old. Pretty is pretty and in my mind pretty is slim and trim. Don't get me wrong, I will do big. I'll do big, if it's firm and shapely. Furthermore, I prefer small and perky over big and sagging. JMHO.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2119244]Ah my good friend. Let me try and poke a hole in your statement! Would you go see this lady if she was available? Guessing she is over 25! I'm guessing I would! Stay safe friend!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]325787[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]325788[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]I'd do her! Why not! She's cute, attractive and other than the sagging breast has a nice body. Most important, she looks like fun. She's bold enough to let them hang and I'm bold enough to grope them.

After all, it's all about the fun, isn't it?

JMHO.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=HoHunter328;2119386]Honestly I'd say no, I prefer nice perky B or C cups. This is more my type... I prefer dark, red, or unnatural hair colors, and very pale flawless skin. Big blue or green eyes are a huge plus. I don't mind tattoos, as long as the work is good. I don't even mind large, or multiple tattoos, as long as there's some type of theme. Multiple completely unrelated tattoos though I tend to dislike, especially if they're close together (it makes me think of random graffiti). Piercings are welcome, especially when they add to the pleasure (eg lip and tongue piercings).

Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I think the real question isn't about what we'd prefer. What would you settle for? We would all like to fuck our idea of the prefect 10, a model type, a super star, a Marilyn Monroe. Dream on! But! That's not what we get. What we get is something a little to the right or left of center.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar;2119418]I'd do her! Why not! She's cute, attractive and other than the sagging breast has a nice body. Most important, she looks like fun. She's bold enough to let them hang and I'm bold enough to grope them

After all, it's all about the fun, isn't it?

JMHO.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I second that!. Hand her over!

[QUOTE=CookyJar;2119434]I think the real question isn't about what we'd prefer. What would you settle for? We would all like to fuck our idea of the prefect 10, a model type, a super star, a Marilyn Monroe. Dream on! But! That's not what we get. What we get is something a little to the right or left of center.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]Quite true, but we all have our personal minimum standards. Some are more discriminant than others, and some raise or lower than standards based on cost, availability, or level of intoxication. For me, saggy breasts are a definite pass even if it's free. Over 35 is another almost definite pass even if it's free, and over 30 is a pass 90% of the time if I'm paying to play. There are just too many options in my preferred age and body range to accept less in my opinion.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

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I am sorry, but, I've never been able to buy the notion of the higher than thou standards. How discriminant can a monger be before it is a matter of OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder). Stinky crack addicts and bums aside! Turn off the lights, fuck her in the dark. Put a bag over her head. What's the problem?

So you meet this totally beautiful girl in a bar and take her home. She is everything you've ever wanted. She kisses you. You make out. She takes you to her bed. The lights are low and you are on top. She is naked from head to her bra. You reach around and undo her bra. Bam! The tits flop to her sides. So what does the discriminant dude do? Get up with your hard dick in your hand and walk out? I can only imagine the good pussy / experiences that the discriminant dudes miss out on.

[QUOTE=HoHunter328;2119544]Quite true, but we all have our personal minimum standards. Some are more discriminant than others, and some raise or lower than standards based on cost, availability, or level of intoxication. For me, saggy breasts are a definite pass even if it's free. Over 35 is another almost definite pass even if it's free, and over 30 is a pass 90% of the time if I'm paying to play. There are just too many options in my preferred age and body range to accept less in my opinion.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]All of this brings up a more important and more valid point, IMHO. While I agree with Ho Hunter 328, whenever possible I go for the gold. Why settle for anything else when top shelf is available. But! What if we add another qualifier to the equation?

[INDENT]Model #1. What if you have a 21 year old beauty, a ten, long blonde hair, blue eyes, pearly white teeth, bubble butt, long shapely legs that reach all the way from her hips too the ground and flawless smooth clear skin. She strips down to nothing. Lays down flat on her back. Closes her eyes, turns her head away from you. Tense up like a board and says," Go ahead, do it. Hurry-up and do what you got to do." (My question isn't whether you would do her, it's whether you would enjoy it more than my other option model#2)[/INDENT]

[INDENT]Model #2. Or! Would you rather have, all things being equal, a 45 year old pro, with a similar body type and look, with some slight signs of age who wants to fuck you any which way but loose. Would you rather have frigid #1 or a slightly used model #2 who is willing and happy to suck, fuck and do you any way you want?[/INDENT]

The question is: Looks over Service? I've had some pretty poor experiences with a few top notch lookers. And! I've had some mind blowing experiences with some average lookers. And! I've had some way over the top, oh what the fuck experiences with some I'd rather not mention lookers.

My own personal rating system starts with; cleanliness, service and then appearance (and age).

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;2119800]I am sorry, but, I've never been able to buy the notion of the higher than thou standards. How discriminant can a monger be before it is a matter of OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder). Stinky crack addicts and bums aside! Turn off the lights, fuck her in the dark. Put a bag over her head. What's the problem?

So you meet this totally beautiful girl in a bar and take her home. She is everything you've ever wanted. She kisses you. You make out. She takes you to her bed. The lights are low and you are on top. She is naked from head to her bra. You reach around and undo her bra. Bam! The tits flop to her sides. So what does the discriminant dude do? Get up with your hard dick in your hand and walk out? I can only imagine the good pussy / experiences that the discriminant dudes miss out on.

All of this brings up a more important and more valid point, IMHO. While I agree with Ho Hunter 328, whenever possible I go for the gold. Why settle for anything else when top shelf is available. But! What if we add another qualifier to the equation?

[INDENT]Model #1. What if you have a 21 year old beauty, a ten, long blonde hair, blue eyes, pearly white teeth, bubble butt, long shapely legs that reach all the way from her hips too the ground and flawless smooth clear skin. She strips down to nothing. Lays down flat on her back. Closes her eyes, turns her head away from you. Tense up like a board and says," Go ahead, do it. Hurry-up and do what you got to do." (My question isn't whether you would do her, it's whether you would enjoy it more than my other option model#2)[/INDENT]

[INDENT]Model #2. Or! Would you rather have, all things being equal, a 45 year old pro, with a similar body type and look, with some slight signs of age who wants to fuck you any which way but loose. Would you rather have frigid #1 or a slightly used model #2 who is willing and happy to suck, fuck and do you any way you want?[/INDENT]

The question is: Looks over Service? I've had some pretty poor experiences with a few top notch lookers. And! I've had some mind blowing experiences with some average lookers. And! I've had some way over the top, oh what the fuck experiences with some I'd rather not mention lookers.

My own personal rating system starts with; cleanliness, service and then appearance (and age).

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I'm certainly not saying every woman I've been with has been perfect, far from it, and I have been let down on performance very often. But I have pretty high, and particular standards on performance, which most simply can't meet. It gets pretty annoying to be honest when I'm with a very attractive girl who just simply can't perform to the level I'm accustomed to. But at the same time there are certain physical attributes (saggy breasts, overweight, age, etc) which just completely make junior lose any interest. I know that if they don't meet certain minimum physical standards then it will just be a waste of my time, and/or money. Even if they do meet those physical standards, half the time it still ends up being a waste of my time, and/or money.

Do I have issues? Most definitely. There's a reason I pick up girls 7 to 9 times a week, but that's a whole different story.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2117482]...

A question. I've had this discussion with some women and we were wondering. Well I'm wondering too, because I don't understand it. Let's say there are two escorts:

Escort number 1: 28 years old, five foot tall, 220 lbs, she has a dimpled, cellulite ass and fat legs, saggy big tits and stretch marks all over. She does have a pretty face though.

Escort number 2: Let' say she's 45 years old, hot body, perfect shape, nice large boobs that don't sag, no cellulite or stretch marks. And her face is obviously not of a youngin, but she's very pretty.

Question is, which one is more desirable? Age or body type?[/QUOTE]I have not relocated. I am still Philadelphia based. I happened upon Deb's question and found it very interesting. I am always interested in the female point of view. There are not that many females around with the balls and stamina to join-in on a male dominated sex forum.

I truly like this thread; a place where you can have intelligent conversations off topic. Perhaps Bostonians have evolved slightly ahead of Philadelphians. LOL.

I recently posted a question / survey in the Philadelphia forum. I would be very interested in any response from Boston. Please feel free to make any comments you wish. Follow this link: [POST=2119184][color=red][b] Girl on Girl - A survey - What's YOUR opinion? [/b][/color][/POST] to the Philadelphia forum. There is also a link in the Post Script that will take you to the Camden Forum and the original pictures of the ladies involved.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;2120076]I truly like this thread; a place where you can have intelligent conversations off topic. Perhaps Bostonians have evolved slightly ahead of Philadelphians. LOL.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Check out the Masshole thread. (LOL). You might have a different opinion.

[QUOTE=Ledger6969;2119933]Yes, do you believe in monger heaven for all you saintly types out there. Or do you just go to purgatory pw, dh and I don't want to forget the infamous ss.[/QUOTE]Look who made Ledgers #1, none other than yours truly pwh!

Ledger, I think I saw your mom post on BP recently you must be proud! [URL]http://massachusetts.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/vb-b-bbw100special-1-m-23/26577176[/URL].

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No flags Ledger but mom's are always off limits. You can say shit about his sister if you want but not his mom.

If his sister turns out to be either dead or a nun you have to say you're sorry right away and mean it.

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I have gotten dressed down in more than one town about my attitude with this. USASG is like a bank, you put stuff in, you take stuff out. If you don't put stuff in you have no right to take stuff out.

In cities with heavy traffic I do have to laugh sometimes because some newbie moron thinking we are his private Rolodex will write on one of the threads and ask where the action is. And, of course, that is right after 10 reviews done that day of, you guessed it, telling where the action is. So, I often rudely exclaim for said ass hole to RTTF. Well, after being dressed down far to many times for being "harsh" I have decided to turn over a new leaf and now the more gentle and kind C3 exclaims, "RTTF asshole, please. ".

My four rules of getting creds in this world of less-than-legal activity:

Rule #1: RTTF and go back a couple months and read it all.

Rule #2: Pick a SP from somewhere and Google the digits and tineye the pics, read the reviews.

Rule #3: TOFTT and write about it.

Rule #4: Repeat rules #2 and #3 a few times.

I have since added an alternative to #3 and #4. Let's call it:

Rule #3 A: Date a known SP, review her and have her write a review of you praising you as god's gift to women.

Now THAT will give you creds.

C3.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2116229]This can be a tough decision whether or not to share info with a lurker or guest.

While I am not advocating it, I have done it in the past with both good & bad results.

There are a thousand one reasons why someone is a lurker or guest none of which I care to list or debate.

However if you look on the front page of this site, guests (lurkers?) usually out number members by at least a 2 to 1 margin, there are reasons for that, some good & some not so much. Determining which is which is the hard part, & the same applies to members.

For some it can be hard enough to post a review with info & intel never mind trying to determine if they should share info with a regular or a senior member or a lurker or guest, & I would not disagree with the myriad of ways anyone deals with a lurker or guest.

With that being said the original premise of what this site is or was suppose to be all about is [RED]The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.[/RED] It's a free & open forum & no one can compel another to post a review or share info or intel, but I feel it does defeat the purpose & spirit of the forum.

I have had more issues sharing info with members than with the half dozen or so lurkers I've dealt with. It usually takes several or more pm's or some form of communication to get a sense of the other person & gut instincts can go a long way, but you are never truly 100% certain of the person you are dealing with be it lurker guest or member.

One lurker made a very different approach in that after he introduced himself as a self-imposed lurker, he gave me contact info & intel & a introduction to a UTR woman that I have not yet seen posted about or mentioned anywhere including on the internet, not facebook, twitter nor any other social forum or any other search that I did.

His proposition was that if I was happy enough with the situation that perhaps I would be willing to share (never asked up front who he was asking about) information back with him on a certain girl. It went back & forth several times, but after seeing her I was more than happy I was ecstatic! After he stated who's info he was looking for I gave him that along with every other GD number I could share at the time.

While this isn't the norm, I tend to admire people's resourcefulness at staying UTR & keeping their anonymity while still giving, getting & sharing info & intel.

At one point in time we were all lurkers, guests, & non participating members here & no one but you can determine to share or whom to share with.[/QUOTE]

I used to see Cindy on Broadway in Arlington quite a bit. It was a legit massage to be sure, but with a slight tease, and she was so sexy and flirty that it was a real good time. I last saw her about two years ago and it's my understanding that she's no longer in the business. I've only come across a couple other girls of this type – legit providers, young (ish), sexy, not shy. Two of them were at Thai Wellness in Qtown, but have since relocated. This is not the typical request for intel. I may be the only guy looking for hot girls that don't give it up, but I want to find them. Anybody know where?