I had a dream that rather take the RF route I normally do, I would make a small detour two streets over. Need more info PM me.
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I had a dream that rather take the RF route I normally do, I would make a small detour two streets over. Need more info PM me.
I went to see this girl who is staying at the Days Inn on Sugar Creek and advertising on BP. She agreed on 60 for twenty minutes. She is actually a pretty girl with perfect tits but with a mouthful of rotten crack / crystal meth teeth. She cleaned my pipe and I slipped on the protection and did my deed. Her snapper was loose and worn out, with big meaty lips hanging down, I guess from all the logs sliding up in there over the years. It was hard to feel anything at all, but after I pulled out and got off I noticed the circular red sores on her torso and belly, which is consistent with my research on HIV, since I want to be aware of all of the dangers of my hobby. I wore protection but the pipe cleaning wasn't protected. She also admitted to having a warrant in Florida for prostitution but wonder now if she really is on the run since the health departments of every state and city keep a tab on prostitutes carrying and spreading AIDS. Plus, a prostitution charge is a minor misdemenor and only a citation for a nominal fee and not a reason to move three states away.
My warning to you guys is to pass on this one.
[url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-to-charlotte-from-florida-25/7488773[/url]
I had a dream that I went down TH and found a streeet car named "Desire".
Not a bad car, well worth the time.
The last couple nights after 11 corner of Th and R has been active WSW last night and a different WSW tonight along with a BSW and a mixed race one ast the busstop on TH.
Safe mongering all
[QUOTE=Rough Justice; 1322727]Early this morning on my way to work I happen to be up and dressed a little early so decided to take a quick stroll. Glad I did, went to the loop a Tom Hunter and met a WSW named heather. About a 7 on the SW scale with decent tits. Went back to my place and got a pretty good BBBJ for $.20. She would have been better but she stopped ever so often, to catch her breath I guess LOL. So I had to finish with jacking all over her tits. Over all nice experience. She gets in the car on the way back and tells me about this chick she just met a the budget inn named brooke and how she couldn't understand shit she was saying but "hell Yeah". So we went back to drop her off and there is brooke standing at the bus stop on TH in front of that store. So I drive by and to my surprise brooke is pretty hot so automatically I'm thinking heather hurry up and get your ass out so I can see what brooke is talking about. So long story short I drop her off and fly back to the store like a bat out of hell trying to see if brooke was still there. She was so I called he over to the car but by this time I was pushing for time and had to be to work soon, so I asked her for her number so I could call her later which she then asked why, I said to get up with you and then she said why I say to give you some money and she said why, by this time I was like this chick is crazy as hell but my little head was very presistant and wanted the number for later so I just said you got a phone or what to which she repiled yes and finally gave me the number. I think she was just high as hell but she was also fine as hell, about a 9 on the SW scale so I'm still going to try later on to call her. She was wearing a red shirt blue jeans with rips in them and a black baby phat jacket and was at the bus stop around 9 am this morning in case any of you fellow mongers saw her. Now I can't wait to get off the only thing is I hope she gave me the right number cause she was hot! Be Careful out there.
Over & out R. J.[/QUOTE]PM me more info on that definately trying to give that a go.
[QUOTE=SlitSlurper; 1344920]I went to see this girl who is staying at the Days Inn on Sugar Creek and advertising on BP. She agreed on 60 for twenty minutes. She is actually a pretty girl with perfect tits but with a mouthful of rotten crack / crystal meth teeth. She cleaned my pipe and I slipped on the protection and did my deed. Her snapper was loose and worn out, with big meaty lips hanging down, I guess from all the logs sliding up in there over the years. It was hard to feel anything at all, but after I pulled out and got off I noticed the circular red sores on her torso and belly, which is consistent with my research on HIV, since I want to be aware of all of the dangers of my hobby. I wore protection but the pipe cleaning wasn't protected. She also admitted to having a warrant in Florida for prostitution but wonder now if she really is on the run since the health departments of every state and city keep a tab on prostitutes carrying and spreading AIDS. Plus, a prostitution charge is a minor misdemenor and only a citation for a nominal fee and not a reason to move three states away.
My warning to you guys is to pass on this one.
[url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-to-charlotte-from-florida-25/7488773[/url][/QUOTE]Good info S, thanks for the intel.
Came up yesturday and hit both the RF HOV area and the SC Tryon area hard at first very slow in both areas about the time I was giving up on the SC area for the second time I spotted a possible shorter WSW walking with taller possible BSW on Tryon around the Tom Hunter area. She was eyeing me hard but more of a sneer than a come get me that's why I am leaving it as possible. Left and went back to RF area and at first it was also still slow but just before I gave up spotted Candy next to the Raceway. I have not seen her for a long time so picked her up. She actually looks like she has lost a little weight and did not look too bad. Still has good oral skills BBBJ 25 plus 5 she also mentioned Sara is back on the prowell in that area. I hurd she was clean off the streets and back in Gastonia but she said she is hooked again and staying in the area.
I made a pass off SC down to TH earlier today, I seen a WSW a pretty big girl, the next pass she was gone. I took SC across the interstate and turned around to make one more pass before heading home. I seen another WSW heading toward TH. Slender decent looking for a SW. I stopped picked her up, headed away.
Proceeded with an excellent flute lesson for the standard fee. More details PM
[QUOTE=Rbw88;1351040]Came up yesturday and hit both the RF HOV area and the SC Tryon area hard at first very slow in both areas about the time I was giving up on the SC area for the second time I spotted a possible shorter WSW walking with taller possible BSW on Tryon around the Tom Hunter area. She was eyeing me hard but more of a sneer than a come get me that's why I am leaving it as possible. Left and went back to RF area and at first it was also still slow but just before I gave up spotted Candy next to the Raceway. I have not seen her for a long time so picked her up. She actually looks like she has lost a little weight and did not look too bad. Still has good oral skills BBBJ 25 plus 5 she also mentioned Sara is back on the prowell in that area. I hurd she was clean off the streets and back in Gastonia but she said she is hooked again and staying in the area.[/QUOTE]Just a quick question. Is the Candy you speak of the WSW with the redish color short hair with the nice fake tits? Also if Sara is back on the prowl then I will definately have to hit up the RF area hard as well!
Thanks for the info be safe and happy hunting.
Over & Out R. J.
[QUOTE=Rough Justice; 1351777]Just a quick question. Is the Candy you speak of the WSW with the redish color short hair with the nice fake tits? Also if Sara is back on the prowl then I will definately have to hit up the RF area hard as well!
Thanks for the info be safe and happy hunting.
Over & Out R. J.[/QUOTE]Yes that's Candy but I am not sure they are fake but they are big. I have not seen Sara yet but Candy said she was back and that they had a room at the Knights in the day before but they move around. Hopefully Sara looks good she was clean for awhile but was told she is hitting it hard again. Candy said she was not out much anymore but most say that I did get a number for her if you want it. My only problem before was once she had my number she called all the time only in the day which was good but a lot. I got a monger phone because of that.
It's been a while since I've contributed to the forum, so here is something gold. All of you remember Brookshire Sarah. I hear she's back, but I haven't lucked out in catching up with her since she's been back. Anyway, there is a new provider here from one of the mid-western states, I forgot which one she said. Her name is Jessica. She actually looks fairly similar to Sarah-face and body wise. Her personality is high-quality as well. She aims to please. The downer part is: she doesn't seem to have a SW incall location. So you either have to provide one, or do the car deed. I've picked her up twice near the speedway on Brookshire. She has digits as well. PM for any inquiry.
[QUOTE=Rbw88;1351040]Came up yesturday and hit both the RF HOV area and the SC Tryon area hard at first very slow in both areas about the time I was giving up on the SC area for the second time I spotted a possible shorter WSW walking with taller possible BSW on Tryon around the Tom Hunter area. She was eyeing me hard but more of a sneer than a come get me that's why I am leaving it as possible. Left and went back to RF area and at first it was also still slow but just before I gave up spotted Candy next to the Raceway. I have not seen her for a long time so picked her up. She actually looks like she has lost a little weight and did not look too bad. Still has good oral skills BBBJ 25 plus 5 she also mentioned Sara is back on the prowell in that area. I hurd she was clean off the streets and back in Gastonia but she said she is hooked again and staying in the area.[/QUOTE]I have no clue who the the BSW could have been, but I saw them both, together as well. The WSW goes by the name of Pinky. She has an on again / off-again type of activity level. Trying to decipher the logic is more trouble than it's worth IMO, especially since she is always walking to some place. A few times attempting to make contact, she informed me she was out of that type of business. The next encounter she's smiling and waving me down. She used to push her kid in a stroller along SC at all times throughout the day-excercise I guess? Sight seeing in that area doesn't seem very enticing. Anyway, good luck if you ever decide to pick her up one day. She has a husband who is aware of what she does, but I never had a problem the few times I saw her.
Well Fellas forget the he say and she say I have seen it with my own eyes. It must just be my lucky week cause everything seems to be going my way. To elaborate I took my lunch a little late today at about 12:45 and decided to hit the stroll before going to get my food and as I'm riding by the tire place right after the tracks on rf who do I see, none other than Sarah but she's getting in a with ford tempo and I had a line of cars behind me so I couldn't stop went to the raceway to turn around and looked back and there she was, driving! Apparently she saw me as well and followed me (thank God). So after brief conversation we decided to go do the do at a local area we used to always go to. Got BBBJCIM for a bengy and that was that. She says she has been around for a couple of weeks now but with her driving now I assume it would be very hard to get in touch with her seeing that she isn't out walking so all I can say is keep your eyes out for the white tempo.
Happy hunting and stay safe.
R. J. Over & Out
Came up today and found nothing on SC, TH loop went down to RF area and at first nothing except a large red headed girl next to speedway. Spotted a WSW walking with her handler may be the Jessica previously reported had on jeans and blue hoodie. She was fairly tall and thin I think redish brown or possibly light brown hair but she had the hood up so could not get a closer look. She did not leave handler on my first two passes then was gone on the third. Looked pretty decent but could not tell for sure because of the hood but she was not heavy. Even went down to Gastonia and nothing there but a big girl.
[QUOTE=Hollowpoint1;1355329]I have no clue who the the BSW could have been, but I saw them both, together as well. The WSW goes by the name of Pinky. She has an on again / off-again type of activity level. Trying to decipher the logic is more trouble than it's worth IMO, especially since she is always walking to some place. A few times attempting to make contact, she informed me she was out of that type of business. The next encounter she's smiling and waving me down. She used to push her kid in a stroller along SC at all times throughout the day-excercise I guess? Sight seeing in that area doesn't seem very enticing. Anyway, good luck if you ever decide to pick her up one day. She has a husband who is aware of what she does, but I never had a problem the few times I saw her.[/QUOTE]I know Pinky well, and I know that if you approached her and she didn't feel comfortable with the surroundings (uncle Leo around) then that's why she refused. She only walks when she has to, so if you do get the opportunity, get her digits! She has skills, and thoroughly enjoys what she does. Believe me, I have spent a lot of time with her. She is sweet, and will make sure you enjoy it. BTW, that's not her husband. BD! Big difference! He's not my favorite person in the world, and tends to get jealous when you frequent Pinky too much. I believe she is up around N. Tryon now.
I rolled thru TH last night about 1:30 am and turned onto Reagan. There were 3 BSW one tall and pretty big, another med average build and one spinner. The spinner looked pretty well from what I could see but there 3 thugs along there as well. No stop for me with that.
Is it just me or are prices going up? I haven't been in the SW scene for awhile, it was too hit and miss so I have been sticking to mostly BP girls and AMP's, but $ for BBBJ? Last time I was mongering that would only run you about. 2 or so and with a SW you could usually get FS for. 4.6 It's only been a year or so since I gave up on the SW scene in CLT have the prices risen that fast?
[QUOTE=Rough Justice; 1356521]Well Fellas forget the he say and she say I have seen it with my own eyes. It must just be my lucky week cause everything seems to be going my way. To elaborate I took my lunch a little late today at about 12:45 and decided to hit the stroll before going to get my food and as I'm riding by the tire place right after the tracks on rf who do I see, none other than Sarah but she's getting in a with ford tempo and I had a line of cars behind me so I couldn't stop went to the raceway to turn around and looked back and there she was, driving! Apparently she saw me as well and followed me (thank God). So after brief conversation we decided to go do the do at a local area we used to always go to. Got BBBJCIM for a bengy and that was that. She says she has been around for a couple of weeks now but with her driving now I assume it would be very hard to get in touch with her seeing that she isn't out walking so all I can say is keep your eyes out for the white tempo.
Happy hunting and stay safe.
R. J. Over & Out[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1357924]Is it just me or are prices going up? I haven't been in the SW scene for awhile, it was too hit and miss so I have been sticking to mostly BP girls and AMP's, but $ for BBBJ? Last time I was mongering that would only run you about. 2 or so and with a SW you could usually get FS for. 4.6 It's only been a year or so since I gave up on the SW scene in CLT have the prices risen that fast?[/QUOTE]CG I seen that myself and wondered if it was a misprint or something, I don't seek FS from a SW but have had no issues with getting a BBBJCIM for. 2
[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1357924]Is it just me or are prices going up? I haven't been in the SW scene for awhile, it was too hit and miss so I have been sticking to mostly BP girls and AMP's, but $ for BBBJ? Last time I was mongering that would only run you about. 2 or so and with a SW you could usually get FS for. 4.6 It's only been a year or so since I gave up on the SW scene in CLT have the prices risen that fast?[/QUOTE]No I just read what I wrote again and I ment to say a Jackson sorry for the confusion, but for clarification it was only. 20 again sorry my bad.
Decided to get a cup of coffee at the race way yesterday after work. Was a few WSW, BSW, hanging out side by a car. Minded my own business for a while. One walked up the side street, I slowed and made the swoop. Cindy, nothing real great. Did a little work as I drove, she did. She did the job, I asked for. BBBJCIM, spiter! Jackson, and a little tip. Dropped her back off in that area and rolled away. Nothing out standing. On the move is not easy. Would repete with a place and hope for improvement.
CH
Cool no worries we all make mistakes.
[QUOTE=Rough Justice;1358025]No I just read what I wrote again and I ment to say a Jackson sorry for the confusion, but for clarification it was only. 20 again sorry my bad.[/QUOTE]
North Carolina should change some of these old laws, look what they charged a local SW with. [url]http://www.bustedmugshots.com/north-carolina/charlotte/shauna-michelle-copeland/41804322[/url] Just because she likes anal shouldn't be a crime.
[QUOTE=Johnnybiggun; 1360708]North Carolina should change some of these old laws, look what they charged a local SW with.
[url]http://www.bustedmugshots.com/north-carolina/charlotte/shauna-michelle-copeland/41804322[/url]
Just because she likes anal shouldn't be a crime.[/QUOTE]You do realize that a blowjob is also a crime against nature.
[QUOTE=Solarmta;1360797]You do realize that a blowjob is also a crime against nature.[/QUOTE]Nothing that two willing adults do to each other should be a crime.
Crime against nature is a legal term used in published cases in the United States since 1814[1] and normally defined as a form of sexual behavior that is not considered natural and is seen as a punishable offense in dozens of countries and several USA states. Sexual practices that have historically been considered to be crimes against nature include homosexual acts, anal sex, bestiality, and necrophilia. Other less common examples include fellatio, and cunnilingus. The term is sometimes also seen as a synonym for sodomy or buggery.
[QUOTE=Solarmta;1360797]You do realize that a blowjob is also a crime against nature.[/QUOTE]
I agree! What two consenting adult do behind closed doors is their own business.
[QUOTE=Vmaxnc;1361498]Nothing that two willing adults do to each other should be a crime.[/QUOTE]
Came up today nobody out at all.
[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1362517]Crime against nature is a legal term used in published cases in the United States since 1814[1] and normally defined as a form of sexual behavior that is not considered natural and is seen as a punishable offense in dozens of countries and several USA states. Sexual practices that have historically been considered to be crimes against nature include homosexual acts, anal sex, bestiality, and necrophilia. Other less common examples include fellatio, and cunnilingus. The term is sometimes also seen as a synonym for sodomy or buggery.[/QUOTE]Under NC law prostitution only covers vaginal sex. They use crimes against nature to cover all the rest. But in your own home they cannot charge you with crimes against nature. And getting a hand job, blow job, anal or cunnilingus at a massage parlor you could not be charged with prostitution. At one time any sexual position other than missionary could have resulted in a crimes against nature charge.
Rolled by the raceway after work. Found a cold looking blonde lurking. Took her for a drive to her aunts driveway for a BBBJCIM. Very talented girl! Good DT. Thought she was going to puke. Jackson and a small tip. Would repete.
I just remembered when I use to turn down the camp green area when they had those govt assisted apts there and I could always find something. Even on a bad night there was a 2 or 3. Now that they are gone its ghost town. I know it is a restricted zone but I still pass through hoping to get luck. About to drop my baby off to daycare and I will make a good stroll on my day off. Wish me luck. Ps is there a mobile app for the iphone for this site?
[QUOTE=Chicken Head50;1366892]Rolled by the raceway after work. Found a cold looking blonde lurking. Took her for a drive to her aunts driveway for a BBBJCIM. Very talented girl! Good DT. Thought she was going to puke. Jackson and a small tip. Would repete.[/QUOTE]Is that raceway people speak of on rozzlles ferry? I made a pass on there the other day and while I may be blind I didn't see one.
Last night, got pretty lucky. As I was arriving in one of the hotel shuttles off of Queen Bridge, these 2 BSW's walk in from of our van. I check them out, and get out of the van, and make my route to get a better look at them as they are getting closer to the rooms. One is a petite, but nice curves light skin and the other is a thick chocolate girl. I ask them what are they getting into, and they say they are headed to one of their friends room. I then ask then what are they going to do, and they say they want to make some money. So I am like cool,"how much?" They say 40 a piece, and I am down for that.
We head up to my room, IO put the money on the dresser, and the girls start to undress, I follow their lead, and ask them,"who is getting my dick in their mouth first?" The thick girl has a tongue ring and was ready to use it, she sucks me off for about 10mins, while I am sucking the other girls titties, then I switch mouths, and put it in the light skin girls mouth for about another 10mins. After the nice BJ's I tell them both to get on their knees on the bed, and then I proceed to engage with both of them, with the light skin girl getting it first. I pumped in and out of her for about 7-10mins, then took the dick out and popped it into the thick girl. I went back in forth for about 40-45mins, loiving every second of it. Once I knew I was about to bust, I pulled out, and took the condom off, so I could bust a nut on both of these girls booties.
They cleaned up, and off they went. I got the light skin girls number, her name is Carmen, and says she lives in S. Charlotte, didn't get any info for the thick girl. I got to give the city of Charlotte some props when it comes to the P4P scence, no complaints from me thus far. I have been with about 6 or 7 BP girls, and this was my 1st experience with the SW's.
Chris H
I drove about three hrs today from plaza to rf to wilk to th and didn't see 1 SW.
So dissapointed!
I live in sc and spent $35 in gas and now I got to fill up again. This was a loss!
Now I see why AMP stay busy.
[QUOTE=MettLife; 1369779]I drove about three hrs today from plaza to rf to wilk to th and didn't see 1 SW.
So dissapointed!
I live in sc and spent $35 in gas and now I got to fill up again. This was a loss!
Now I see why AMP stay busy.[/QUOTE]I used to go mongering for SW at least 3 times a week late at night back when gas was in the 2 buck range. But it was always hit or miss. Not to mention risky. With the high fuel prices I have found it easier to hit up a AMP from time to time. Even though I still miss the days of hunting. I had a few regulars that I would pick up when I was out but the rock took them down hill so then it because a crap shoot with what you was going to find.
[QUOTE=MettLife; 1315748]I had a dream that I was on trade st off RF and I hit the jackpot. You'll find a few strung out but there are also pickings out there. .2CIM.
This my 1st post. But I am a 10yr SW vet. I can tell you about Columbia- rock hill too.[/QUOTE]You said you could tell us places in Rock Hill to find a few SW. Please by all means let me know. I've been here 3 year and have seen. Maybe. MAYBE one. And as I was with family at the time I couldn't really stop to find out. So, please by all means PM me with the details about the Rock. I'm a 17 yr vet of SW. I'm 37, but can EASILY pass for under 25! I wished this site existed when I started back in 1995.
I made a few passes in the TH / Reagan area over a couple hour period this afternoon.
At first there was a little spinner there, who looking back was probably best of the bunch, she looked good from afar but getting close her face was old weathered by hard times on the street.
Next sighting was an Hispanic girl, deep into pregancy a little thick, decent looking but the pregnant thing doesn't really do it for me.
She was joined later by a tall WSW kind of thick this well let's just leave it a not very attractive.
There was a BSW a little after that, not totally sure if she was working or not never got the "look" from her.
Maybe for hunting SW's I'm too picky but so be it.
Safe hunting to all
This afternoon I was off work so I took a nap and had a dream,
In the dream I was riding down TH and made my turnaround about halfway down at a road where I believe Heritage Housing development is. Lo and behold it was here I seen a BSW a slender spinner, decent looks. I made the pick up her name is Denisha (sp) Denisha showned me her skills at playing the flute to the tune of BBBJCIM for. 2. I left the area a happy guy, then I woke up.
Took a trip to the TH loop one afternoon and caught up with a WSW who turned out to have one hand missing. I think I have heard her spoken about on here before. I guess I was too busy keeping an eye out for uncle LEO that I failed to notice her handicap. Anyway, got a room and two rounds of BBBJCIM for. 40. Pretty decent skills. She was definitely a pleasure to be around. No drama, nice personality, etc. Probably wouldn't repeat as the service didn't blow me away and the hand thing was a little awkward.
The very next evening I was out at TH again and spotted a heavyset WSW. She was in her late 20's / early 30's, shoulder length brown hair. Pretty decent face. Got a room right in that area and thats when the problems started. I noticed that when we got to the room she was a little jumpy, definitely on something. Gave her. 2 for BBBJCIM. She did this for about 3 minutes with little to no effort. She said her mouth was starting to hurt and that she was tired. She ended up asking if I wanted FS and that it would be more. At this point I knew this was gong downhill so I told her no thanks and ended it right there. You guys want to avoid this one if possible.
[QUOTE=Mjsoft; 1378837]Took a trip to the TH loop one afternoon and caught up with a WSW who turned out to have one hand missing. I think I have heard her spoken about on here before. I guess I was too busy keeping an eye out for uncle LEO that I failed to notice her handicap. Anyway, got a room and two rounds of BBBJCIM for. 40. Pretty decent skills. She was definitely a pleasure to be around. No drama, nice personality, etc. Probably wouldn't repeat as the service didn't blow me away and the hand thing was a little awkward.
The very next evening I was out at TH again and spotted a heavyset WSW. She was in her late 20's / early 30's, shoulder length brown hair. Pretty decent face. Got a room right in that area and thats when the problems started. I noticed that when we got to the room she was a little jumpy, definitely on something. Gave her. 2 for BBBJCIM. She did this for about 3 minutes with little to no effort. She said her mouth was starting to hurt and that she was tired. She ended up asking if I wanted FS and that it would be more. At this point I knew this was gong downhill so I told her no thanks and ended it right there. You guys want to avoid this one if possible.[/QUOTE]Mjsoft, I have seen the one handed one walking a number of times, often she has been walking with a thick Hispanic looking girl.
The other girl you spoke I have seen her out once or twice I think but not often.
To correct the report I made a couple days ago the turn around was at Hidden Valley not heritage.
Last night I made the TH loop counted no less than 6 out most I ever seen at one time.
[QUOTE=Mjsoft; 1378837]Took a trip to the TH loop one afternoon and caught up with a WSW who turned out to have one hand missing. I think I have heard her spoken about on here before. I guess I was too busy keeping an eye out for uncle LEO that I failed to notice her handicap. Anyway, got a room and two rounds of BBBJCIM for. 40. Pretty decent skills. She was definitely a pleasure to be around. No drama, nice personality, etc. Probably wouldn't repeat as the service didn't blow me away and the hand thing was a little awkward.
The very next evening I was out at TH again and spotted a heavyset WSW. She was in her late 20's / early 30's, shoulder length brown hair. Pretty decent face. Got a room right in that area and thats when the problems started. I noticed that when we got to the room she was a little jumpy, definitely on something. Gave her. 2 for BBBJCIM. She did this for about 3 minutes with little to no effort. She said her mouth was starting to hurt and that she was tired. She ended up asking if I wanted FS and that it would be more. At this point I knew this was gong downhill so I told her no thanks and ended it right there. You guys want to avoid this one if possible.[/QUOTE]Seems like TH has picked up with SW. I cut thru there this morning and spotted a BSW out. I would give her a 5 on looks and the I spotted a possible LSW. She seemed out of place and lost. I would give her a 6 on ther scale. I didn't partake on them because I was only passing thru.