General Reports

I know myself if I do not post it right away I will forget. Here is a well written;
[QUOTE=Member #1381]
And regarding introductions in public places (including airports)....
1. DO NOT ACT LIKE A HOBBYIST!!! Use you hobby intuition and senses but be your "profressional and casual" self.

2. DO NOT APPROACH HER IN HER PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY OUT IN THE OPEN. Smiling and perhaps asking where she is going and staying are simple ice breakers. There are a million common every day ice breakers that can come up on the spot.. Use them... If/once you're alone and the ice has been broken and you've engaged in some chit-chat. You may imply that "I know I've seen you before".. And let her get that coy little girlish look and smile on her face and let you know who she is. Give her the opportunity to decide whether she wants to talk "business" or not... Many of these girls get a lot of hassel in the grocery stores, the mall, the gym and other public places... And often time they are with family or friends and don't need the hassle and bullshit of us mongerers and hobbyists calling them out in public. So have a little respect for them!!! They do have private lives too...

3. Leave her with a number to call you if she is ever in your area and have questions on where to eat or stay.... Works for me!!!!

Some are very direct and to the point whether in private or in public. These are the ones that will do business in a Burger King line at the airport. While there are those that have a little more character and professionalism about how to handle "coincidental meeting".

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[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524453#post524453[/url]
Some thoughts:
Point #3 She might give you her card or phone, email ... etc.
Point #4 Do not be pushy becuase she is a working girl.
Point #5 If you are not sure if she is or she is not. You lost nothing. Actually I used to be shy but the skills I developed being a hobbyist gave me confidence.
J

I hate when this happens. What would you do and how far?
1) Do nothing! Sorry you are hurting yourself and others big time
2) Take actions. How far it's up to you?

Post details and descriptions of scammers with as much identifying marks as you can every where. You would say posting details won't get your losses but it would:
1) Warn other fellows (posting as much details every where)
2) Give her and her gang a hard time (they will think twice and work for $ instead. It would also intimidate others from ripping guys off. You won't be a an easy future target). Rip-off gangs change phone #'s so if you were an easy target they will send you another girl to rip you off. If they know you will cost them more than what they will gain they will at least avoid you. So do not hesitate to revenge.
3) Look for them on CL, posted pictures by other fellows, ocso, cfcwarrants, ...etc.
4) Someone might identify them. They might have warrants against them.
5) If someone reported a similar scam or rip-off contact them. Most probably they are the same gang but may be a different girl.

These are some thoughts.
J

[QUOTE=Giani]
At the risk of repeating myself, here are my 13 rules of "Mongering 101."
Note rule #5:

1) Only carry as much $$ as you are willing to lose... I always stash all valuables (my wallet, extra cash, cell phone, etc.) in a hidden spot.

2) Be VERY cautious if the "SW" on the street looks TOO good i.e., in Cincinnati, they DON'T dress in stilettos, leopard prints, or other obvious hooker outfits. It smells of a sting.

3) Do not call attention to yourself by making a show out of the stop (no U turns, no flagrant traffic moves). Catch her eye and pull around the corner onto the next side street and let her come to you. Alternatively, go smoothly around the block, having caught her eye.

4) When you pull up, be willing to drive away if your close up impression of her through the window is not good. (Sores, too thin, wired, dirty & stinky, sullen or "dead" eyes? SWs are NEVER as good as your first impression driving by...) Tell her you thought she was someone else.

5) Ask her if she needs a ride. She should say "Yes" and hop right into the car. Do NOT negotiate through the window. The monger's acid test is that LE stinging decoys will NOT get into the car. Please: if anyone knows differently, let us know. [SWs, in order to stay out of jail, may occasionally be forced to serve as decoys. They may get into the car. But if you refrain from discussion business until you are out of the neighborhood, and certain you are not being tailed, you should be OK.] If she insists on negotiating through the window, tell her you thought she was someone else, a friend, and split. Watch out for tailing LE.

6) Once she is in the car, get IMMEDIATELY out of the neighborhood. (Local LE will stop you if they see a known SW in your car--take my word for it...) Cop a feel of her bare breasts to be SURE she isn't LE. She may grab your crotch to ensure that you aren't LE. Then get a crystal clear understanding of exactly what you want (covered or no, catch or no, swallow or no, etc) and for exactly how much (plus tip if satisfied). Extensive bargaining is a warning flag of a troublesome SW, and another reason to turn her out. And again, get out of the pick up neighborhood--I was once stopped by LE because he recognized the SW I had in the car.

7) Go to YOUR location unless given a good reason not to. HER location may include a male friend of hers who will rip you off. If she refuses your spot, you have another reason to turn her out. Be cautious of locations where you have no easy exit.

8) NEVER give up the $ before you are finished. You can pay a small token up front, but NEVER the whole amount. If she refuses, then thanks but no thanks. Once she has your money, it is problematic to turn her out. This includes fronting money so they can buy some "butter." Money in their hand may mean you will never get into their bush...

9) The use of drugs is can be a problem, but try to read what it might be. Crack leaves them still cogent, able to reason, may make them more enthusiastic and not totally out of it, in my experience. Heroin (dog food) addiction on the other hand leads to dangerous situations. Crack (in my experience) creates a dependancy, but not the kind of withdrawal that becomes an emergency for them. I have heard that crank can make them very horny--do not have direct experience. If they seem REALLY drugged up, another reason to turn them out. The difficult truth is that the vast majority of SWs do so to support some habit.

10) Do not let outside people get involved. No answering doors, no second girls, no nothing. You are asking for serious problems.

11) If confronted with a dangerous situation, do not get hostile or seriously argumentative. Tempers flair quickly, to what extent, you may not want to learn. GIVE IT UP. After all, you stashed your wallet, extra $$ and valuables elsewhere, right?

12) If you ARE ripped off, publicize the hell out of it on this board with as much descriptive detail as you can. Educate the rest of us about what mistakes you might not make again. Give a detailed description of the SW, her name, exactly where, when, how you connected.

13) Finally, try to get to know those SWs who ARE dependable. They can, and often are willing to advise you about dangerous, drugged out or HIV positive SWs. Remember however, even long-time dependable SWs should not have too much temptation placed in front of them--even they can "grab and run."

Stay safe--even if the thrill of the hunt is part of the deal.

Giani[/QUOTE]

This is an initial report for avoiding fake ads
-If the pictures have watermarks. The pictures are taken off of websites. A real girl will have her original pictures.
-If IT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - IT IS NOT TRUE!! And that means when you see a beautiful girl photographed with perfect lighting by an obvious professional - 99% of the time, it’s simply a photo lifted off the internet! Beware! Next…if you see a beautiful girl whose photo is somehow pixillated (it has jagged edges) it’s a low resolution image again - lifted from the internet!
Watch out for multiple ads - all with beautiful girls - and all with the same or similar phone numbers! They’re clearly agency (same management, team, same pimp ... etc.) ads! Most agencies either use all real ads - or all fake ads! Rarely do they mix and match! Seek out amateur photography with less lighting than the slick stuff - and shadows which indicate the absence of back-lighting - a photographer’s tool to avoid unwanted shadows. Yes, there ARE amateur shots on the web which can be downloaded and used to dupe the guileless consumer. But on balance, amateur photogrpahy will bring the real girl a greater percentage of the time than the slick shots.
Always do your [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=518147&postcount=50]homework[/url] before seeing a girl. Search for reviews. Google girls info and the number. And don’t believe all the reviews. Read between the lines. Girls post reviews on themselves frequently.
When calling the number, ask if these are real pictures of the girl. Any answer other than yes creates doubts. But this is a question designed to lead up to the admonition. Your next move? Tell the person on the phone (politely) that it would be a new deal if she is a fake girl…a) you won’t give her a dime for carfare if you did not like her…b) you’ll be exposing them c) if you like her you could have a new deal of course less than the original one
Don’t say it belligerently! Simply explain that you’ve been hoodwinked before - you work hard for your money - and you’re simply being an educated consumer.
Anybody in his right mind won’t send a fake under these circumstances. But if they do…follow through on your promise.
Agencies love to prey on the weak. Don’t be weak and they’ll respect that.
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524985&postcount=56]Fight rip-off[/url]
- [b] Be clear, upfront, use common sense and expect the same[/b]
These are my thoughts
J

I will be traveling to Orlando on Friday. Have not been in the city for years. (live there until I was 18, which was many years ago) an I am interested in two things. First the ladies, after reading the many great posts I plan on visiting one of the AMPs. No car prevents me from the SW tour and I will be in a hotel with many co-workers so I am not willing for a visitation to my room....but that is not the reason for my post. I will not have time to get a hair cut at my favorite asian barber before my arrival so I am intereted to know if anyone knows of a lady asian barber that takes pride in her work and is good at what she does. A neck massage after the haircut would be nice. If anyone knows of a barber that does the Korean "massagi" service that would be even better.
Anyway, thanks for any info that can be provided and I will report on my activities in the city.

Frank

Hi, I'm 42 y/o looking for female companionship BDSM style. Having read many of the reports I guess that Independent women is the best. Anyone with experience that could recommend someone. I'm looking for a dominant woman for 1-2 hours in my hotel, Disney Resort.

Thanks!

I had some work in San Diego and got an opportunity to visit Tijuana tonight. We went to Adelaides and that was the most fun I've ever had in a strip club. The girls were solid 7's with a sprinkling of 9's.

I still cannot believe that you just approach a gal and than follow her upstairs for maybe $70.00 a FS shot.

The street corner taco vendor's hit the other spot too.

Its 2:55am San Diego and part of me is tempted to make another run for the border before my 9am flight back to Orlando.

I wish there was something like this in the Carribbean besides the hassle of Cuba.

I highly recommend the trip if your in the area.

I went there for a FULL 7 days, damn that was a tiring and expensive trip. Gotta say I had alot of fun though.

Know your rights. Cops are allowed to lie to suspects. Watch this:
[url]http://iwantmylawyer.org/busted.html[/url]
If anyone would like to share information and/or update guides please feel free. Also, you are more than welcome to pm me.
J

I know to each their own but what's the best time to hit the trail? Went tonight and saw a handful but nothing to write home about. Another thing is I read someone said at night it's not best because one can't see faces that great. Can someone PM me.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jethrow]I know to each their own but what's the best time to hit the trail? Went tonight and saw a handful but nothing to write home about. Another thing is I read someone said at night it's not best because one can't see faces that great. Can someone PM me.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well Jethrow that is some of the best ADVICE I have read. Thanks OJ, I wish I knew all that when I was younger. Good vidio a "Must view".

Dave

Can someone educate us on how to choose a lawyer? I am not a lawyer. Feel free to PM me.
The valuable advice helped me a lot so far.
J
P.S.
Since I have been asked. It's orange county and it's not prostitution. If the biatch kept her mouth shut it won't be obstruction of justice (misdomeaner) for keeping my mouth shut. The charges might be dropped!

I thought the 5th amendment [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am5.html[/url] gives us a right against self incrimination (keeping our mouth shut)!

[QUOTE=Orlando J]Can someone educate us on how to choose a lawyer? I am not a lawyer. Feel free to PM me.

The valuable advice helped me a lot so far.

J

P.S.

Since I have been asked. It's orange county and it's not prostitution. If the biatch kept her mouth shut it won't be obstruction of justice (misdomeaner) for keeping my mouth shut. The charges might be dropped![/QUOTE]

and if you care to, copy and paste the first half here. You know what parts I would want you to publicize and what parts I would not. Trusting you here.

Nemo

I looked up on line I found this site it's not the best; lawyers.findlaw.com I would like to find a better way for comparing lawyers like number of cases he/she got not guilty and in which area. Other criteria for choosing a lawyer other than fees. The ability to drop it before trial.
After posting this initial report, I found these sites to comapre and check:
[url]http://www.martindale.com[/url]
[url]http://www.floridabar.org[/url]

Nemodc,
You can trust me bro.
Here is the public part which answers the question Can a lawyer give guarantees for an easy case?
[i][b]No Guarantees [/b]

If an attorney guarantees you an outcome, do one of two things--

1, get it in writing, so if it dont come out exactly, you can sue the bastard for malpractice.

2, better yet, run- dont walk- run out of his office.

But seriously, the best suggestion is to find one Certified as Criminal or Civil Trial Specialist, as case may be. Florida is one of very few states with that type of certification process.

Hope it all comes out well.[/i]

[QUOTE=Nemodc]and if you care to, copy and paste the first half here. You know what parts I would want you to publicize and what parts I would not. Trusting you here.

Nemo[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.aclu.org/FilesPDFs/dwb%20bust%20card7_04.pdf[/url]


Does a pretty good job of helping you keep yourself out of trouble.

Nemo

Hand it to the officer first thing, and then SHUT the Phuc Up.
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.

Nemo

I have resized it. That's a great idea.
[QUOTE=Nemodc]
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.

Nemo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nemodc]Hand it to the officer first thing, and then SHUT the Phuc Up.
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.

Nemo[/QUOTE]

Have you used it, and if so, did it work?

although it used to be printed on the back of my business cards. Saved many clients alot of risk, fees and made my representation of them alot easier. Yes to what you are thinking. Not in Florida tho.

Nemo

I found this in Tampa board. I will post it as it is for now.
[QUOTE=Horny Yankee]Watch how quick this post will get flagged.

The reason it will get flagged is because the Escort agencies and girls doing the ripping off don't want you to see it.

Many of the posts by girls here are misleading. They want you to believe you are getting full service when in reality, they only offer a dance and/or mutual masturbation. When this post does get flagged, that means the scammers are actively posting at that time.

If you ask for FULL SERVICE, they will say, "Yes, I'm full service". What they don't tell you is that their idea of full service consists of you masturbating yourself to completion. After you get ripped off, you might ask the girl "I thought this was full service"? They will tell you that the legal definiton in Florida for Full Service includes mutual masturbation. That is a lie. Their is NO legal definition of "Full Service" in the Florida Revised Code.

This is how it works:

You agree to meet the girl. She will likely show up with a driver. She will ask for $100 to $200 up front. If you make the mistake of paying this, you might as well say goodbye to it. The driver will take the money to the car and usually wait. From here, the girl will tell you that the money you just paid is for the driver, agency, or a show up fee. She will now tell you that she only works on tips. You now have to negotiate a price to have the girl continue. This will range from $200 to $300. If you pay her, you are now about to learn about the term "Full Service" from her terminology. She will likely only offer to strip and conduct mutual masturbation. You WILL NOT be allowed to touch her and she WILL NOT touch you.. Once you figure this out, you might ask for a refund. It is likely she will tell you there are no refunds. Though, there is a slim chance she will refund your second payment, you are definitely not getting your first payment returned. She will likely leave and you are out anywhere from $100 to $500. If she does conduct a strip or mutual masturbation, there is no refund what so ever, guaranteed.

How to deal with this:

1. If a driver or second person shows up, you are about to get ripped off.... GUARANTEED!
Do not answer the door if they come to you. You need to watch and see if she comes with someone. If the girl that shows up is not the girl pictured, it is very likely a SCAM. If a non pictured girl shows up with a driver, you might as well write off any money you give up.

2. IF you have the confrontation with the driver and the girl, make an excuse to cancel. At this point, the driver will tell you there is a cancellation fee. It usually ranges from $100 to $150. Hopefully, you have not let them into your room. They will try to come into your room prior to conversation because when the confrontation happens, you will feel more intimidated to give up the money. Remember, your room is your safe haven until they are inside. If you are in a situation where you can't avoid the confrontation, refuse to pay the money. If you are bigger then the driver, they will likely leave. If not, immediately have your cell-phone readily available and tell them that you will call the police and the police can resolve it when they get here. Though, this is something you won't likely want to do, I can assure you, they don't want to confront the police anymore then you do. They will likely leave at this point. Trust me, you don't owe them a cent.

3. Watch out for the scenario where the girl shows up and asks for the money up front. After you pay her, she will open the door and hand the money to a driver who is now outside of your door that you didn't see the first time. If this happens, you may as well say goodbye to that money and get ready for the second round of negotiations to start all over again. Once again, you are about to get ripped off. If a girl shows up and you let her inside and asks for the money up front, open the door and see if anyone is standing outside the door. If not, the driver may be waiting in the car. Know the cars in the parking lot prior to the girl arriving. This way you can spot the driver more easily. The girl may insist on taking the first payment out to the car. If this happens, you are about to once again get ripped off. She will take it to the driver. If she does go to the car and give the money to a driver, get ready for a second round of negotiations IF she returns.

4. They will say whatever is necessary to get the initial payment from you. Once you have given up that money, they don't care anymore, they got what they wanted and can and will leave at anytime they want. Anything else they get from your wallet is just a bonus now for the girl and the driver. Once they have your initial payment, they know you aren't going to call the police. They can do as they please and they know it.

5. In some cases, the girl will agree to meet you at a hotel before anyone has a room. Sit in your car and wait. Prior to her showing, ask what kind of vehicle she is coming in. If she comes with a driver, simply drive away. If they ask what you are driving, be vague. Once again, if you are foolish enough to make contact, they will ask for the initial payment up front using the excuse that they have to pay for the room. Whatever you give them, say goodbye to it and be ready for the second round of negotiations.

6. Prior to meeting with a girl and her likely driver, you have to call the phone number they give you. Just be direct with them. Ask them if this is mutual masturbation and/or a dance ONLY. If they are a licensed agency/business, they might tell you the truth but it is unlikely. Another common response is "I can't discuss that over the phone". If they won't discuss it, you are about to get ripped off. Just to be sure, ask if there will be a driver. If they say "Yes", just hang up. You are about to get ripped-off. One common quote they love to make is "I promise you won't be disappointed". Don't be tricked. This quote means nothing and you will be disappointed.

7. A very high percentage of ads in the "Tampa Trib." and "The Other paper" are exactly what we have discussed above. ALL of the phonebook ads under "Escorts" listing agencies are as listed above. In addition, most of the girls' ads in the Trib and Other Paper are actually ads from escort agencies listed in the phone book. The agencies have several phone numbers they use that all ring to the same phone and answered by the same operators. They change numbers like you change pants every morning. They change numbers because they know guys won't call the same number that is known as a rip-off number.

8. As you may already know, there are open businesses that you are aware of in which these businesses offer mutual masturbation. At least one of these businesses are responsible for sending girls your way with a driver also. Remember, they have several phone lines also.

9. Remember, they want you to believe they are doing something illegal. It's a game of words. An example of this is an ad that says "this is not an offer of prostitution". This is reverse psychology. They think if they post this that you will believe it is prostitution. This is probably the only time in reality that they aren't lying (This only applies to CL). For other reverse psychology phrases, see rules 6 and 10.

10. If you have made the mistake of paying the driver and the secondary costs to the girl, she will continue to tell you that "The more you pay, the more you get". Though, she won't tell you how much more no matter what. She will just continue to get you to try to pay more and more. The more you pay, the more you will lose and the simple fact is, you will never get to touch her and she won't touch you no matter how much you pay.

11. If the service advertises a rate for a half hour or you are offered a 30 minute rate, it's very likely to be mutual masturbation (DIY).

12. As you read this, remember, the local escort agencies and DIY scammers are reading this also. They are changing there tactics in advertising on CL in hopes that you won't distinguish them from a legitimate provider. You have to use common sense. Think with the big head and not the little fireman. If the ad seems to good to be true, it is. Hot women do not suddenly show up in Tampa and just start advertising on CL.

13. One way to spot a scammer is to keep a running list of phone numbers of suspicious ads. Eventualy, you will find the same phone numbers listed in multiple ads for different girls. I know, I told you earlier that they change numbers like you change your pants every morning. They do change there numbers frequently, but they also use a number long enough until they feel it is no longer of any use to them. In addition, compare numbers you get on CL to phone numbers listed in the "Tampa Trib" and "The Other Paper". When you find a match, compare the ads. The comparison should raise a red flag.

14. If you do meet one of these girls and get burned. Remember, you are angry at the girls(s), driver, and the agency. The best revenge you can put on them is to take money out of there pocket by reporting which CL ads are a SCAM. Give as much detailed information as possible to include the phone number in the ad, a description of the girl(s), driver, and the vehicle he/she is driving. CL is anonymous so there is no fear of embarressment. DO NOT report legitimate providers as scams. It only defeats the purpose of our goals. If you have a personal problem with a legitimate provider, take it to "Rants and Raves".

15. You should NEVER invite these people over to your home or apartment. (Hypothetical) The girl and driver shows up. You see the red flags and cancel. If you refuse to pay the cancellation fee, they WILL intentionally make a scene in front of your residence waking up or getting the attention of your neihbors. They do this in an attempt to embarress you into paying them. This is the best case scenario. Use your imagination and you should come up with many other possible bad scenarios or crimes that could result from this. Just ask yourself, do you really want these people to know where you live?

16, WHERE THE MONEY GOES - The intial payment mostly goes to the agency. The second round of negotiations goes to the girl (Second round of negotiations usually start at about $200 to $300). The driver gets a percentage of the take from the second round of negotiations and possibly gets a small cut of the initial costs.

17. This post will not last very long. Let's do everyone a favor and work together on this one. Copy and paste this post to your hard drive. When you notice that the post has been flagged and deleted from CL, re-post it. Everyone has a right to know about this ongoing scam. If enough people know about this, the rip-off artists will stop posting here.

18. I have received requests from people asking for a recommended provider or asking if a specific post is a scam. I do not respond to these e-mails. The most common question is "I called this girl who posted and she sounded really nice over the phone". How is she supposed to sound that shows her as a scam? If you are asking this type of question, you are thinking with the little fireman. The goal of these posts is to show you how to deal with the confrontation of a suspected scam. If I provided information on legitimate providers, it would delegitimize this post as a whole and would show a personal agenda. This post shows you how to pick out legitimate posts and how to pick up the signs of a suspected scam. If you simply memorize these simple rules, it is unlikely you are going to get ripped-off. Their are guys out there who actually believe it is worth spending up to $1000 to have a female watch him jack off. This post does not apply to these guys. It applies to guys who are looking for more then jacking themselves off and avoiding girls who mislead them into believing they will get more then mutual masturbation.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=532600&postcount=190]Posted by Horney Yankee[/url]

I had the displeasure of having that situation in Orlando in 2004. Although for not as much money. Couldn't believe I paid to whack off in front of some chick, who by the way, actually tried to dance for me to some poorly tuned in station on the hotel room clock radio. I actually posted about it here when it happened. It was a low for me.

What's up with these stamp size pictures on CL? and two words' ads with just a number!
An ideal ad:
-would have an attractive title. Since listpic is not working you can give a quick description in your title. [b]Be honest. Remember to each his own[/b]
- Age (Do not lie)
- A good recent colored picture of the face unless you feel you are not gorgeous (it should show hair color though it does not matter to me) if you insist on not displaying it then you should consider free cancelations
- Body picture
- Height
- Weight
If you just started and still have no pictures be very descriptive.
Eye, skin, hair color any tattoos
- Have a menu of services offered.
Example
Available for incall ??? outcall = 1 Full hour f/s more than 1 cop + ?? greek
Available for incall ??? outcall = 1 up to an hour f/s + ?? greek
Available for incall ?? outcall = 30 f/s minutes
Available for incall ?? outcall = GFE Lollipops with or without completion
GFE Girl Friend Experience bare back

- Donation
- measurements someone might buy you something
- Bust size
These are a plus
- PSE Porn Star Experience if you have done porn let us know
- Shaved, trimmed or not (you could use [b]your[/b] recent picture). Remember this is an invitation to DATY if you do not like it then say it.
-Prefer: expressive, loud and passionate. Gets into it. Just say passionate if you are.
-Prefer: no drugs
-Some like greek.
Use the attached pictures to guide you.
Read this and better the whole thread
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=523239&postcount=53[/url]
Just to prove that each has his own my Courtesan:
-cute face to gorgeous (to each his own)
-fair skin (white to tanned)
-5'0":5'6" (some like only tall >5'7" some like only short <5')
-weight proportionate
-Reasonable rate (all agree)
-young and tight :) (some like old experienced)
-Good attitude and nice personality. (some like[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_(BDSM)]BDSM[/url]. I do not get it and do not need to get it! but that's there thing)
-It could turn into NSA girl-friend. (some are not looking for a regular thing)
-Busty is preferable but not necessary. I prefer a model body (a little slim) with natural squeezable boobs.
-Clean shaved and takes care of her hygene (some like unshaved)
-Hair color is immaterial.
-Prefer: expressive, loud and passionate. Gets into it.
-Prefer: no drugs
These are some thoughts
J

I am better known in USA forum but I was thinking of getting my teeth fixed and having fun along the way in Mexico. Please share with me ideas. I heard a lot about TJ. Do you think this is the best city (closest, cheapest, ... etc.)? By the way I do not speak Spanish and this would be my first trip to Mexico. What are the sources (news papers, magazines, internet, ... etc.) of classified ads? English sources.
Thanks in advance
J

[QUOTE=Turtleshark]I had some work in San Diego and got an opportunity to visit Tijuana tonight. We went to Adelaides and that was the most fun I've ever had in a strip club.[/QUOTE]

Do you mean "Adelita Bar"?

Try going to internationalsexguide.info or ********.com, both sites offer lots of information. Before going make sure you read all the guides on those site they help alot.

Lol. It probably was Adelita. It had the best lit up signage and was packed with beautiful girls and johns. To the right is a multi story hotel and a blind woman at the doorway that I tipped. Not sure what for but when in Rome.

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Do you mean "Adelita Bar"?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mikeinbrazil]Try going to internationalsexguide.info or ********.com, both sites offer lots of information. Before going make sure you read all the guides on those site they help alot.[/QUOTE]
I am a Senior as well on the international board and actaully I registered on the international first. I do not have the same credibility and network as in here.
Unfortunately, I did not find [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5149]guides[/url] that will walk you as a visitor.

[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1772[/url]

Thats the link to "BROCKTON O'TOOLE'S TIJUANA FAQ " it is very helpful, even though it is somewhat outdated. The big thing to remember about TJ is not to act like a stupid drunk american. And also never carry alot of cash on you, and if you do put most of the money in hidden spots then carry like 5 or 10 so the police have something to take if they shake you down. I found it very helpful buying a money belt, personally I didn't have problems with cops when I was down there.

If you any have specfic questions feel free to message me.

[QUOTE=Orlando J]I am better known in USA forum but I was thinking of getting my teeth fixed and having fun along the way in Mexico. Please share with me ideas. I heard a lot about TJ. Do you think this is the best city (closest, cheapest, ... etc.)? By the way I do not speak Spanish and this would be my first trip to Mexico. What are the sources (news papers, magazines, internet, ... etc.) of classified ads? English sources.

Thanks in advance

J[/QUOTE]When you cross the border from SD, just jump into a taxi and tell them where to take you. It would be better if you go with a friend and not alone. Adelita is great. Nice atomsphere and feels very safe, and the girls are top 8's and 9's. Weekend rates are a little more, but when I went, it was only. 5 for fs plus a tip to the door man and security. Keep in mind, everybody is going to want a tip, so only tip the people that matter and have a couple of bills folded in separate packets for easy access.

Ap

[QUOTE=AZpix]When you cross the border from SD, just jump into a taxi and tell them where to take you. It would be better if you go with a friend and not alone. Adelita is great. Nice atomsphere and feels very safe, and the girls are top 8's and 9's. Weekend rates are a little more, but when I went, it was only. 5 for fs plus a tip to the door man and security. Keep in mind, everybody is going to want a tip, so only tip the people that matter and have a couple of bills folded in separate packets for easy access.

Ap[/QUOTE]
If you are the type that doesnt like hunting then staying at adelita's is a good option. If you do like hunting and your spanish is decent then I suggest wondering around, there are lots of smaller bars with good looking girls in them. Sure they don't have the amount of hot chicks like Adelita but the girls are other places aren't as much in a rush as Adelitas either (generally speaking). My favorite club is Hong Kong because it is kind of like an american style stripclub, but you can get extras. Then I like chicago because its like Adelitas in term of hot girls, but they don't seem to be in as huge of a rush. Adelitas is the biggest fuck factory around town, but they sure do have stunners!

[QUOTE=Mikeinbrazil]If you are the type that doesnt like hunting then staying at adelita's is a good option. If you do like hunting and your spanish is decent then I suggest wondering around, there are lots of smaller bars with good looking girls in them. Sure they don't have the amount of hot chicks like Adelita but the girls are other places aren't as much in a rush as Adelitas either (generally speaking). My favorite club is Hong Kong because it is kind of like an american style stripclub, but you can get extras. Then I like chicago because its like Adelitas in term of hot girls, but they don't seem to be in as huge of a rush. Adelitas is the biggest fuck factory around town, but they sure do have stunners![/QUOTE]Yeah bro, I agree with you, there are many to be had out there. There are always the street girls around the corner around Adelitas, prices are much better but the quality is usually not as good. Since my spanish is very limited, I opt to play it safe and stay inside Adelitas

Thanks y'all
Do we have shows/festival like this ever [post=541586](Erotica Show)[/post]?
[QUOTE=Mikeinbrazil][url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1772[/url]
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The street girl scene is freaking nuts!!! I swear some of those girls working would command $300 here. My only problem with them is I have yet to have a really good experience, its more like fucking real quick then poping a nut, but damn you can't beat the $20 they charge. They do nickle and dime you for other crap like taking off their clothes, BJs, different positions...

I have been asked by a provider on "how to keep a guy?" if you have seen the movie "how to lose a guy... :)" These are some thoughts:
It's easy to get a man but it's hard to keep him. Do the math? what if the new guy is a maniac, abusive, or Leo ...etc. How much would you spend to fix the damage?
-Do not act like an old relation girl-friend. I used to date ?? frequently, but the last time I saw her. She was not enthusiastic. I stopped calling her. Or the other one who became possessive. Or the other who became paranoid maybe because of the sh?t she did. Or the other who became jealous. Or the other who became upseller. Simply put you have to keep or reduce price and maintain or increase quality.
There are too many girls out there for me to let one of them treat me bad. That's why in the first place I date easy girls.
-Ask him for advice.
-Give him some treats. Improve your services without asking for more.
-Listen when he talks.
-Keep inventing yourself.
-Keep his senses satisfied (Ask him). Visual (I like make up, strip, lap dances), touch (massages), taste, smell,[url=http://bigmouthfulsx.bangbros1.com/100001/movies/clip-4.wmv] sound[/url] Some do not like loud girls! I do.
-If you feel he's not calling you, not interested in you or bored or asked for a your girl-friends. Introduce him to your girl-friends. It's better you do it before he dumps you and moves on his own to hunt. Both we'll appreciate it. Most likely he'll go back to you if not to date you then to know more of your girl-friends. Believe me he'll do the same and introduce you to other hobbyists.
-[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=523239&postcount=53]Though it might seem common sense[/url] to me but some girls do not prepare for dates. It's better to read the whole thread.
-when things turn into NSA girl-friend do not look at him as nothing but a bank.
-In my suck-Sex-Full :), I mean successful, NSA girl-friend(s); we both liked each others company. We did everything together. She introduced me to her friends and I did the same. I did not take advantage when I needed her services, which happened more often as we hanged out, I paid. I became her friend, husband, manager, confidant ... almost everything.
-Never leave a man mid-way, unsatisfied at least finish it with BBBJ
-Do not break promises (terms if you have sort of agreement). Do not promise what you can not fulfill.
-Providers prefer to see regulars because they know what to expect, know you are not a cop, and know you're not a trouble maker. Among many ways you can tell if your provider considers you a regular is when you pay. If she let's you pay afterwards, you're a regular.
-Since women move from service to service and in and out of the business I like to develop a regular relationship with more than one girl. This way if your favorite is on the rag, out of town, or quits, you have other choices to fall back on. Sometimes your just in the mood for someone different. If I find a girl I really like I generally give her my contact and tell her to call me whenever she needs. I've also had women who got out of the business but still keep me as their only client. And part of the reason for that is that I gave them my phone number.
-Do not use more than one manager (lead,...etc) at the same time. Be clear and honest. Do not connive and fool them trying to get from here and there.
-Do not steal, scam, rip-off …etc. customers/providers.
-Do not steal, scam, rip-off …etc. other providers
-Do not out smart others or play games
-Do not steal, scam ..etc your manager, lead...


Just to prove that each has his own my Courtesan:
-cute face to gorgeous (to each his own)
-fair skin (white to tanned)
-5'0":5'6" (some like only tall >5'7" some like only short <5')
-weight proportionate
-Reasonable rate (all agree)
-young and tight :) (some like old experienced)
-Good attitude and nice personality. (some like [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_(BDSM)]BDSM[/url]. I do not get it and do not need to get it! but that's their thing)
-Locals as it could turn into NSA girl-friend. (some are not looking for a regular thing)
-Busty is preferable but not necessary. I prefer a model body (a little slim) with natural squeezable boobs.
-Clean shaved and takes care of her hygene (some like unshaved)
-Hair color is immaterial.
-No games
-Prefer: expressive, loud and passionate. Gets into it.
-Prefer: no drugs
These are some thoughts
J

I wasn't sure where to post this, but figured that it might be appropriate in the General Report Thread.

I don't know how many you you have shot up I-75 to Atlanta and wondered about some of the AMP's on the billboards just across the Georgia border. I stopped at the one off of exit 5. They charge the normal. 8 for an hour, but huge upsell and poor service. I got a below average TS and massage from Tina. On the flip she immediately went for the upsell and which I thought I was getting FS for another. 8. The only good thing was that she has huge headlights and let me play with them for quite a while! She gave a quick HJ, left the room and sent in a skinny old Mamasan missing teeth to finish up. Believe me I was finished up.

Stay away from exit 5 boys!

P.S. I stopped at that "Bare All" place to eat north of Ocala. Another waste of money. Below average food and flat chested trailer trash ladies (soory of anyone out there take offense to the trailer trash comment).

[QUOTE=Worldsoffun]I stopped at that "Bare All" place to eat north of Ocala. Another waste of money. Below average food and flat chested trailer trash ladies (soory of anyone out there take offense to the trailer trash comment).[/QUOTE]

Thank for taking one for the team. I've driven by that place many times but always with a Blues Brothers' "On a Mission from God" attitude because I had to get somewhere else. I had always wanted to make a rest stop there but now I'll pass.

Many thanks again.

Mal

[QUOTE=Worldsoffun]P.S. I stopped at that "Bare All" place to eat north of Ocala. Another waste of money. Below average food and flat chested trailer trash ladies (soory of anyone out there take offense to the trailer trash comment).[/QUOTE]I believe that you are talking about Cafe Risque in Micanopy, at exit 73 just south of Gainesville.

I don't question your experience there, but mine was completely different.

As far as the food, I've heard that they use the same recipes as the old "Skeeters" chain. So if you liked Skeeters, you would like this place.

I stopped in one afternoon and I had a great country style breakfast there.

As far as the girls, I had a beautiful slender brunette, probably in her late 20's, who offered me a "bed dance."

You go into a small room (actually it's more like a cave) and lie down on a mattress. They have a strict no-touching policy, so you are required to place your hands in the grips behind you.

This lovely climbed on top of me and proceeded to grind me into ecstacy. I couldn't have been more pleased. It was $30 very well spent!

I was told that Friday and Saturday nights they often get some U of F coeds who need to make a little extra cash.

DB

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I believe that you are talking about Cafe Risque in Micanopy, at exit 73 just south of Gainesville.

I don't question your experience there, but mine was completely different.

I was told that Friday and Saturday nights they often get some U of F coeds who need to make a little extra cash.

DB[/QUOTE]That's the place! Cafe Risque!

I might have to try a Friday or Saturday night then. I visited at 2:00am on a Sunday night/Monday morning. Could be a whole different story another night. Could be the food was bad because the cook told me that someone had just smashed out the window in his new car. I told him that I hoped it was because of his cooking!

Be safe guys!

WOF

[QUOTE=Orlando J]Know your rights. Cops are allowed to lie to suspects. Watch this:
[url]http://iwantmylawyer.org/busted.html[/url]
If anyone would like to share information and/or update guides please feel free. Also, you are more than welcome to pm me.
J[/QUOTE]

This advice and link from a Florida post is a must see. Take the time to watch it and then send a check to the ACLU.

Wolfe

I dont know if y'all noticed it .... the Orlando Forum just became the most active in Florida!! Beating out Jacksonville, Miami etc. !!! Not sure if this is cause for celebration or concern....more traffic means more scrutiny...