"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

This girl is in town from Miami and says she and her friends are fleeing the hurricane. She has an AirBNB in the Lindbergh area. She was fun to text with and looks to be a gorgeous white spinner, but she is too rich for my blood. She started with 600 then came down to 500 and indicated she was willing to negotiate further, but we were too far apart. I can't vouch for her at all, but she looks and sounds good so I wanted to pass her info along. She has girlfriends with her and apparently they could be in play as well and she is willing to use her place.

Proceed at your own risk if you decide to give her a spin.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5a9b4a80-108f-48e4-b63d-a227f3794042[/URL]

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3540440]How many did you bag on the same day as the meet up? Public place then directly to a private place? Meet up first time at a private place?

For me it has been:

-Met at a coffee shop, banged a week later (19). Banged 4 more times and still can on demand.

-Met roomies at a coffee shop, met a their place later that week. Agreed to bang both at that meeting starting the following week. Banged one Monday and one Thursday in rotation for the summer. (one 18, one 19). Summer fling over.

-Met at coffee shop and was balls deep at a hotel 30 minutes later (18). Banged 2 more times and might still can. Had a CIP with no BC issue. Morning after reportedly taken.

-Met directly at her place (19). Talked for about 60 seconds and then was balls deep. Seen 2 times more and did photo / vid session. Still seeing once a week.

-Met her and roomie at coffee shop (21). Told her to invite me over to her place. Says she "wants to get to know me better". Might cultivate this one or just go back to banging all of the other ones above if she does not drop panties soon.

-Have 4 more being cultivated through emails and texts.

My junk is actually sore. Going to need a week off. These girls are insatiable.[/QUOTE]I'd love to know what you are having to pay these girls and I'm assuming you aren't paying them for the initial meet when nothing occurs?

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3540134]The crazy thing is, these are actual college girls with a future. And from my Facebook / Instagram recon, parents that should have gotten them on it at 16. I am in the process of showing them how to get it for free from the local health department. Even then, I have to bug 'them about it. Lost these two HOT roommates who I was taking turns banging because neither was on BC and I told them no more until they get on it. They are probably preggers and dropped out of school by now.[/QUOTE]Figure they are on "stripper birth control" aka an abortion.

With the first three, we met for the first time right at the hotels. With the one this morning, we met at a gas station for about two minutes yesterday just to make sure we were who we said we were. Also, we're both in relationships so couldn't do dinner or coffee. We just talked briefly while pumping gas. Met her at hotel this morning for a couple of hours. She was the best one yet and, as luck would have it, the only one that didn't want money. I even offered and she didn't bite. We just went our separate ways. It was awesome.

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3540440]How many did you bag on the same day as the meet up? Public place then directly to a private place? Meet up first time at a private place?

For me it has been:

-Met at a coffee shop, banged a week later (19). Banged 4 more times and still can on demand.

-Met roomies at a coffee shop, met a their place later that week. Agreed to bang both at that meeting starting the following week. Banged one Monday and one Thursday in rotation for the summer. (one 18, one 19). Summer fling over.

-Met at coffee shop and was balls deep at a hotel 30 minutes later (18). Banged 2 more times and might still can. Had a CIP with no BC issue. Morning after reportedly taken.

-Met directly at her place (19). Talked for about 60 seconds and then was balls deep. Seen 2 times more and did photo / vid session. Still seeing once a week.

-Met her and roomie at coffee shop (21). Told her to invite me over to her place. Says she "wants to get to know me better". Might cultivate this one or just go back to banging all of the other ones above if she does not drop panties soon.

-Have 4 more being cultivated through emails and texts.

My junk is actually sore. Going to need a week off. These girls are insatiable.[/QUOTE]

I'm only one month in but I didn't go the stealth route, unfortunately. Might be too late now.

[QUOTE=PaulBunyon17;3540459]Hey guys,

I'm new here. SA sounds fun. Did you pay for SA membership? How do you add CC w / o using your real info? Ashley Madison thing you know.

Thanks.[/QUOTE].

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[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3540711]With the first three, we met for the first time right at the hotels. With the one this morning, we met at a gas station for about two minutes yesterday just to make sure we were who we said we were. Also, we're both in relationships so couldn't do dinner or coffee. We just talked briefly while pumping gas. Met her at hotel this morning for a couple of hours. She was the best one yet and, as luck would have it, the only one that didn't want money. I even offered and she didn't bite. We just went our separate ways. It was awesome.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a big percent of the ladies are 18-30 that are down for most anything including short term engagements and possibly even BBFS (too risky for me though) w / o having to build a relationship. In your experience, Do many of these ladies have hosting capabilities or do you find yourselves getting hotel for the day and trying to line them up to minimize the costs? I'm working on my angle to get into the game. Been playing for several years but this sounds like so much more fun! Any advise the group can provide would be great.

Who does this? "I have found someone who was paying me $2,000 weekly for phone calls and text messages naughty of course. And we stopped because he relocated recently. " Probably a lie but some of these chicks have ridiculous expectations. Expecting this and doesn't even want to meet you in person until later.

By the way, I asked her why relocating matters if it's just texting and phone call since you can do that from anywhere in the world. Radio silence on her end. LOL

[QUOTE=GA400;3540945]Who does this? "I have found someone who was paying me $2,000 weekly for phone calls and text messages naughty of course. And we stopped because he relocated recently. " Probably a lie but some of these chicks have ridiculous expectations. Expecting this and doesn't even want to meet you in person until later.[/QUOTE]They're trying to virtue signal what they expect from a guy, it has no basis in reality or fact of what they have experienced from other guys. I'm sure there are some dumb suckers out there paying out the wazoo for nothing more than flirty text messages, but most of these girls aren't attractive or stable enough to land a whale for any period of time. I had this 30 year old single mother telling me about how her last guy flew her around the country on vacations, gave her jewelry, etc. This lady was living hand to mouth and made jewelry to sell on etsy, her only other skill was lying on her back. For all her talk about being pampered and such by some rich beta, she sure did beg me to blast a load in her pussy for $100 an hour after that conversation. 30 minutes later she was begging me for my credit card so she could rent a car (LOL). Chicks will say anything to get that money, just nod and smile and ignore anything they say because they're effectively just adult children. They completely lack agency over their lives and will say anything to get them their next score / meal / shoe purchase / etc. Give them what they are worth and not a dime more.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3540678]I'd love to know what you are having to pay these girls and I'm assuming you aren't paying them for the initial meet when nothing occurs?[/QUOTE]I NEVER pay for the meet and greet. Any girl that suggests it is out. Money amount before hand has comes up about half the time. I tell them I will make it worth there while. $$ is what I have been leaving as a parting gift. All have scheduled a second session or more.

Sugarbabies are escorts even a top teacher at university said so.

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3540711]With the first three, we met for the first time right at the hotels. With the one this morning, we met at a gas station for about two minutes yesterday just to make sure we were who we said we were. Also, we're both in relationships so couldn't do dinner or coffee. We just talked briefly while pumping gas. Met her at hotel this morning for a couple of hours. She was the best one yet and, as luck would have it, the only one that didn't want money. I even offered and she didn't bite. We just went our separate ways. It was awesome.[/QUOTE]Got more stuff lined up than I can handle at my age. In Myrtle Beach next week, and already have 2 lined up, more asking. My best: a 2 some who only work together (thank goodness.) Hottest 3 some ever. Amazing the everyday ladies who have no problem completing the deal.

The first three girls were 19,20 and 26. The most recent one was 32 and with whom no money was exchanged. I don't personally do BBFS and not sure if they were open to it, so I can't comment on that part.

My own personal preference is to control the place we hookup, so I've only used hotels so far. Two of them were able to host but, like I said, I opt for hotels so I didn't take either of them up on it. I tend to book the room from about 11 in the morning on day one until about 3 or 4 the next afternoon on day 2. That gives me an opportunity to get 2 or 3 in for one hotel stay, but I've only met with multiple girls in a single hotel stay once.

[QUOTE=PaulBunyon17;3540920]Sounds like a big percent of the ladies are 18-30 that are down for most anything including short term engagements and possibly even BBFS (too risky for me though) w / o having to build a relationship. In your experience, Do many of these ladies have hosting capabilities or do you find yourselves getting hotel for the day and trying to line them up to minimize the costs? I'm working on my angle to get into the game. Been playing for several years but this sounds like so much more fun! Any advise the group can provide would be great.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you're living the dream.

[QUOTE=Allen981;3541244]Got more stuff lined up than I can handle at my age. In Myrtle Beach next week, and already have 2 lined up, more asking. My best: a 2 some who only work together (thank goodness.) Hottest 3 some ever. Amazing the everyday ladies who have no problem completing the deal.[/QUOTE]

Any tips on no or very short MnG? I like the young brown / black spinners. I have to go farther than I would like to avoid being seen by coworkers, etc. Any pointers on minimizing MnG would be much appreciated.

I would also add that if the girl is on the lower end of that age range, chances are she's not hosting. Given the economy, many are still living at home.

[QUOTE=PaulBunyon17;3540920]Sounds like a big percent of the ladies are 18-30 that are down for most anything including short term engagements and possibly even BBFS (too risky for me though) w / o having to build a relationship. In your experience, Do many of these ladies have hosting capabilities or do you find yourselves getting hotel for the day and trying to line them up to minimize the costs? I'm working on my angle to get into the game. Been playing for several years but this sounds like so much more fun! Any advise the group can provide would be great.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3541580]I would also add that if the girl is on the lower end of that age range, chances are she's not hosting. Given the economy, many are still living at home.[/QUOTE]I think I will take the plunge and get premium on SA once I figure out the secure CC and phone issue. There seems to be a lot out there to have fun with. Looking forward to sharing my experiences with the group and hearing about yours as well.

Thanks!

Personally, I just communicate with them over text message and we work everything out there. The fact that the hotel is sort of a public place, we both feel comfortable to meet there and let things take their course. But, we know where it's going beforehand through our conversations.

[QUOTE=MattMakers;3541540]Any tips on no or very short MnG? I like the young brown / black spinners. I have to go farther than I would like to avoid being seen by coworkers, etc. Any pointers on minimizing MnG would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3541873]Personally, I just communicate with them over text message and we work everything out there. The fact that the hotel is sort of a public place, we both feel comfortable to meet there and let things take their course. But, we know where it's going beforehand through our conversations.[/QUOTE]Have you had any flake on you? That would be my only reservation.

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3541254]The first three girls were 19,20 and 26. The most recent one was 32 and with whom no money was exchanged. I don't personally do BBFS and not sure if they were open to it, so I can't comment on that part.

My own personal preference is to control the place we hookup, so I've only used hotels so far. Two of them were able to host but, like I said, I opt for hotels so I didn't take either of them up on it. I tend to book the room from about 11 in the morning on day one until about 3 or 4 the next afternoon on day 2. That gives me an opportunity to get 2 or 3 in for one hotel stay, but I've only met with multiple girls in a single hotel stay once.[/QUOTE]I have done the hotel thing using reward points. I travel a lot and get many points. I just booked a room for this Wednesday and Thursday nights with points and met a 22 year old for lunch on Wednesday and we wound in my room for an overnite ($ . 5 for an overnight) and just finished with a 50 year old hottie this morning. So for two nights of reward points I had a damn good time. This SA thing is amazing. I'm three for four and the forth will happen next meeting. All three were BBFS with no mention of protection. Like I said in an earlier post I am a believer.

PC.

[QUOTE=PaulBunyon17;3541687]I think I will take the plunge and get premium on SA once I figure out the secure CC and phone issue. There seems to be a lot out there to have fun with. Looking forward to sharing my experiences with the group and hearing about yours as well.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Who is typically the first to bring up the financials in the discussion? Tips on how to start or handle that conversation?

My first SA encounter, she flaked. I kept my cool, stayed cordial, and figured maybe she got cold feet. She came around the following day when I still had the room and we spent a couple of hours together. Used her initial flaking out as leverage for a lower "allowance".

[QUOTE=MattMakers;3541887]Have you had any flake on you? That would be my only reservation.[/QUOTE]

I normally just ask them what their expectations are from an arrangement and let them know what I'm comfortable with. I've gone through chatting with a bunch of girls that I told we were not even in the same ball park. We just keep it moving and wish each other well. I don't think I've ever brought it up first except with the most recent encounter. But we'd already done the deed and she was getting dressed, so I offered to pay for her nails to get done since she had mentioned something like that over text a few days earlier. But she wouldn't accept anything.

[QUOTE=PaulBunyon17;3542077]Who is typically the first to bring up the financials in the discussion? Tips on how to start or handle that conversation?[/QUOTE]

How are you guys handling this. I'm uncomfortable posting my picture to my profile, but so many SB really want you to do that. Also, after charring some of them up they want me to text them pics. Again, uncomfortable with this. I'm not married or anything, but I don't know them from a hole in the ground, and really don't want to send my pic to a scammer, or to someone looking trap or extort. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3542814]How are you guys handling this. I'm uncomfortable posting my picture to my profile, but so many SB really want you to do that. Also, after charring some of them up they want me to text them pics. Again, uncomfortable with this. I'm not married or anything, but I don't know them from a hole in the ground, and really don't want to send my pic to a scammer, or to someone looking trap or extort. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Enlighten me, what would a scammer do with your pictures? I'm serious and not trying to be a smart ass.

I'm just curious what you think would happen if you sent them to someone like that and maybe it's good advice for everyone here as well.

I've sent my private pictures before and never had any issues. I just finished my second tour on SA. Sometimes you just got to take a leap of faith I guess.

If someone told me that would contact my wife, I would tell them not to bother that I would just go ahead and tell her what was up.

Maybe I wouldn't be on the site if she wasn't such a pain in the ass. LOL.

Actually, one of the first girls I was chatting with asked me for that and I didn't proceed because I thought she was up to something. But I found out that it's really more about having a pic on their phone. Maybe they talk to a number of fellas. They probably want to have the pic associated with the name when they receive a text or call from you. I know, for me, I got two mixed up one time because I can't keep up with all of those different profile names. I asked one about her dog and she had no idea what I was talking about. I realized that I got her mixed up with another chick. Or, they could be trying to see if you have another picture to make sure you're real. As for profile picture, I don't have one posted publicly but I have a private profile pic that can be viewed upon request.

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3542814]How are you guys handling this. I'm uncomfortable posting my picture to my profile, but so many SB really want you to do that. Also, after charring some of them up they want me to text them pics. Again, uncomfortable with this. I'm not married or anything, but I don't know them from a hole in the ground, and really don't want to send my pic to a scammer, or to someone looking trap or extort. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I'm not married, so obviously don't have to worry about discretion as much as married guys, but I have one profile pic that shows my features, but is kind of dark and grainy. For the true ladies that are looking for just one or two SDs or a long term thing, they are going to want to see clear pics of you before meeting. Once I move them to text I have no problem sending these to them. Plus it lets you ask for more pics of them. Only Pros, UTRs or one of those two in training won't ask for pics. Since I'm looking for the true amateurs, I actually use it as an indicator of someone I DON'T want to see.

Good hunting,

Travelin.

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3542814]How are you guys handling this. I'm uncomfortable posting my picture to my profile, but so many SB really want you to do that. Also, after charring some of them up they want me to text them pics. Again, uncomfortable with this. I'm not married or anything, but I don't know them from a hole in the ground, and really don't want to send my pic to a scammer, or to someone looking trap or extort. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Say one of these SB's finds themselves in a spot of trouble after seeing the" wrong" kinda guy. Now your picture and phone number (if you're dumb enough to be using your actual phone) are on that girls phone. Not worried about a situation like that? I am.

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3543317]Actually, one of the first girls I was chatting with asked me for that and I didn't proceed because I thought she was up to something. But I found out that it's really more about having a pic on their phone. Maybe they talk to a number of fellas. They probably want to have the pic associated with the name when they receive a text or call from you. I know, for me, I got two mixed up one time because I can't keep up with all of those different profile names. I asked one about her dog and she had no idea what I was talking about. I realized that I got her mixed up with another chick. Or, they could be trying to see if you have another picture to make sure you're real. As for profile picture, I don't have one posted publicly but I have a private profile pic that can be viewed upon request.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3543414]Say one of these SB's finds themselves in a spot of trouble after seeing the" wrong" kinda guy. Now your picture and phone number (if you're dumb enough to be using your actual phone) are on that girls phone. Not worried about a situation like that? I am.[/QUOTE]So, what would be the cause of worry in a situation like that? Your pic is on some girls phone, so what? What consequences would there be? I'm genuinely curious what your thinking is that would bring on such over cautious behavior, when you're wanting to hang out with these girls in the first place.

Whether you use an escort service, BP, SA or SW, you always need to look at the risk / reward for your activities. Lots of married guys who worry about sending pics to a lady off SA think nothing of going BBFS with her. Each person needs to determine their own level of comfort about what info they want to divulge and what precautions to take. For example I never give out my real phone number, but use my real first name and send pics once text communications are established. The bottom line is that if you want to meet the real "first-timers" or amateurs off SA you're going to have to send them pics of you. I agree with Admin2 that the SD / SB relationship in the end is sex for money. The difference is that the real SB maintains the right to be selective as opposed to the Pro. Part of that selection is knowing what you look like. There may be exceptions, but they will be few and far between.

Good Hunting,

Travelin.

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3543414]Say one of these SB's finds themselves in a spot of trouble after seeing the" wrong" kinda guy. Now your picture and phone number (if you're dumb enough to be using your actual phone) are on that girls phone. Not worried about a situation like that? I am.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CarlPoppa;3542814]How are you guys handling this. I'm uncomfortable posting my picture to my profile, but so many SB really want you to do that. Also, after charring some of them up they want me to text them pics. Again, uncomfortable with this. I'm not married or anything, but I don't know them from a hole in the ground, and really don't want to send my pic to a scammer, or to someone looking trap or extort. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Its pretty natural that a girl is going to want to see who she is talking to or going to meet, the same as you would. If your that paranoid this is probably not for you and would be best if you stick with what you know.

Hey there. New to SBing. Anyways, I am currently in contact with sensualkitty and renee. Can anyone share some insight? I am new to the area and visiting for business. Would like to meet with either one and see how it goes. Are they shady?

[QUOTE=Focuses;3544214]Hey there. New to SBing. Anyways, I am currently in contact with sensualkitty and renee. Can anyone share some insight? I am new to the area and visiting for business. Would like to meet with either one and see how it goes. Are they shady?[/QUOTE]I've been with ReneeBaby twice, once solo and once with her friend. Had a great time both times. They're both really cool, down to earth girls and they'll give you a fun time. I've read on here that SensualKitty girls are a much better experience, but also much more expensive. I don't think you'll go wrong with either selection. Good luck and have fun!

[QUOTE=Focuses;3544214]Hey there. New to SBing. Anyways, I am currently in contact with sensualkitty and renee. Can anyone share some insight? I am new to the area and visiting for business. Would like to meet with either one and see how it goes. Are they shady?[/QUOTE]I've been with ReneeBaby twice, once solo and once with her friend. Had a great time both times. They're both really cool, down to earth girls and they'll give you a fun time. I've read on here that SensualKitty girls are a much better experience, but also much more expensive. I don't think you'll go wrong with either selection. Good luck and have fun!

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3543688]Whether you use an escort service, BP, SA or SW, you always need to look at the risk / reward for your activities. Lots of married guys who worry about sending pics to a lady off SA think nothing of going BBFS with her. Each person needs to determine their own level of comfort about what info they want to divulge and what precautions to take. For example I never give out my real phone number, but use my real first name and send pics once text communications are established. The bottom line is that if you want to meet the real "first-timers" or amateurs off SA you're going to have to send them pics of you. I agree with Admin2 that the SD / SB relationship in the end is sex for money. The difference is that the real SB maintains the right to be selective as opposed to the Pro. Part of that selection is knowing what you look like. There may be exceptions, but they will be few and far between.

Good Hunting,

Travelin.[/QUOTE]100% Agree. I do the same only burner number and first name.

[QUOTE=MattMakers;3541887]Have you had any flake on you? That would be my only reservation.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have had one flake on me. A complete no show. Also lots of conversations started and never finished. SA is a big time investment.

[QUOTE=JoeySteelBalls;3544501]I've been with ReneeBaby twice, once solo and once with her friend. Had a great time both times. They're both really cool, down to earth girls and they'll give you a fun time. I've read on here that SensualKitty girls are a much better experience, but also much more expensive. I don't think you'll go wrong with either selection. Good luck and have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks!. Would you say renee pics are accurate? It seems kitty has no pics online. Wondering if anyone here can describe her?

[QUOTE=Bu1788;3538424]

I've chatted Rileyyyy97 up as well and she wanted me to send her a pizza for lunch so I passed on her and haven't spoken with her since.

[/QUOTE]I got the pizza request from Rileyyyy97 too. Also wanted cash just to meet and greet. After some back and forth got the sense someone else is scheming with her behind the scenes. Passing is good advice.

[QUOTE=Ternarius;3544873]I got the pizza request from Rileyyyy97 too. Also wanted cash just to meet and greet. After some back and forth got the sense someone else is scheming with her behind the scenes. Passing is good advice.[/QUOTE]LOL, The pizza ring. Probably some college guys or gals trying to get free pizzas!

So joined SA. Have had moderate success. 50%. But the past week or so, I see profiles appear and disappear, some in the same day. Some I have exchanged info with and have text messages but their profile is gone. What is this game?

Also, is there any G2 on what an monthly arrangement is for Atlanta? I have been hit with everything. One chic hit me with an amount that was nucking futz.

Also, picked up a cheap BLU burner phone. Wished I had not. Text messaging is unreliable and the key screen blows. Any suggestions for a good burner? Or should I downcycle my 6's to a burner when the 8 appears tomorrow?