"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Richmond Mas; 1171076]Cool, I joined a site suggarbabbies4you, but could do much they wanted me to join to view any profile. What is your recommendation. I know I got to pay to be in the game, but I do want to join a good site and not just any site.

New starting out on this sugarbabies thing. Any info is appreciated to get me started.[/QUOTE]I joined the SugarDaddyforme site based on the information supplied by Literal2. I'm like you in that I was not prepared to join a number of sites so the only one I've joined is the SugarDaddy site. If you've read my post you know I'm not interested in a lot of wining and dining but want to get right to the heart of the matter. Since I don't live in Richmond I try not to have wasted trips. I had some success early but have kind of hit a dry spell. I have three I'm currently communicating with and hope to meet up with one of them next week.

Literal has posted some very good posts on how you can expect it to work. I have tried to give a honest assessment of my experiences on this forum but you'll see that the general consensus is it that it takes work. Only you can judge is the work worth it for you. For me the jury is still out but I'm still hanging in there. Good luck no matter which way you go.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1171148]Everything she said could still be true. I know of one escort in my area who used the SD / SB approach to ease her way out of the 'business' but still have a way to support herself while getting her act together. But it's always good to investigate, it's interesting to see what can turn up.[/QUOTE]I agree that it can be used as a way to transition out of the escort life and I actually thought of that as a possibility. I may have overreacted a bit because I found the BP ad after just hearing this tearful conversation about having to meet to make sure our "chemistry" was right. As I stated, if her pics were accurate, she was worth seeing as an escort. I'll give it some more thought and decide if I respond to the BP ad or the SB profile. Thanks for giving me another perspective. I love this forum!

SB12 is on deck for today. She says she is recently divorced with two kids. Claims to 39, and an artist or something. Says she only wants to have one SD. Her pix show a pretty dark haired woman with a nice body. I wonder how old they are. Anyway, I have a room and we will meet first at the bar nearby. She wants more than one session so she has committed to a second session Sunday. Originally she wanted too much commitment and too much allowance, paid monthly in advance. Her pitch was,"I'll see you each month as many times as you like." I told her no commitment and installments on the allowance which will only occur after I penetrate her vagina. If I have a problem with her later I don't think it will be with penetration, but with clinging.

Tomorrow it's back to my atf sb 27-year old sb4 for what will be the last time. She has the best ass. I will try to get a pic and post it. She really squirms around and moans loudly before she cums. I like that.

Saturday it's sb9 again, my elegantly dressed amateur artist / student / receptionist. Tall and curvy she will have a weight problem later if she doesn't watch the booze. She says she's 27 but I think probably 30 or so. She loves to have something in her mouth when she cums, like my dick or my tongue. During the build-up she doesn't squirm at all, her body just gets more and more rigid until she gasps quietly and releases. I like that too.

So I think it should be an active weekend coming up with about four pops in three girls.

I know, multiple pops are supposed to be in one session. I can't do that anymore.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1175211]SB12 is on deck for today. She says she is recently divorced with two kids. Claims to 39, and an artist or something. Says she only wants to have one SD. Her pix show a pretty dark haired woman with a nice body. I wonder how old they are. Anyway, I have a room and we will meet first at the bar nearby. She wants more than one session so she has committed to a second session Sunday. Originally she wanted too much commitment and too much allowance, paid monthly in advance. Her pitch was,"I'll see you each month as many times as you like." I told her no commitment and installments on the allowance which will only occur after I penetrate her vagina. If I have a problem with her later I don't think it will be with penetration, but with clinging.

Tomorrow it's back to my atf sb 27-year old sb4 for what will be the last time. She has the best ass. I will try to get a pic and post it. She really squirms around and moans loudly before she cums. I like that.

Saturday it's sb9 again, my elegantly dressed amateur artist / student / receptionist. Tall and curvy she will have a weight problem later if she doesn't watch the booze. She says she's 27 but I think probably 30 or so. She loves to have something in her mouth when she cums, like my dick or my tongue. During the build-up she doesn't squirm at all, her body just gets more and more rigid until she gasps quietly and releases. I like that too.

So I think it should be an active weekend coming up with about four pops in three girls.

I know, multiple pops are supposed to be in one session. I can't do that anymore. [/QUOTE]I'm curious how you handle it on a first meeting when a potential SB doesn't look like her photos? Do you simply say "we're not a good fit" and walk away or do you continue to see if she might have other redeeming features? It depends for me, but the one time I continued after 'bad' photos I regretted it. I met a potential SB 3 weekends ago. Her pictures were probably 10 years old and she hadn't aged well. We sat and chatted a while. She asked if I wanted to continue and I wished her luck, told her I didn't think we could work, left her a small amount of sugar and left.

Why will it be your last time with SB4? Feel free to send her my way LOL.

SB9 sounds like fun too.

Good luck with your weekend! I've got 2 girls lined up myself, but of course, both require travel and they're in opposite directions. Both of them are college students. I've met one of them before and I'm breaking my own rule about not seeing her again since there was nothing more than dinner the first time.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1175219]I'm curious how you handle it on a first meeting when a potential SB doesn't look like her photos? Do you simply say "we're not a good fit" and walk away or do you continue to see if she might have other redeeming features? [/QUOTE]Unfortunately Mr Johnson has more to say about this than I do. I've met with lots of escorts who don't look like their photos and Johnson usually proceeds anyway. Not all the time. I've sent some away before he could get involved.

With sb's it's only happened twice. A few months ago, back to back heavy girls. I fucked one of them and she was actually pretty good, very passionate, shy, all the psychological stuff I really like. Her body was big but it was firm, which made a difference. I walked out on the other without fucking her but I took some pix so I gave her sugar for those. Actually, Mr Johnson was beginning to get involved when a bunch of workmen showed up banging on the girl's door so I got out just in time. Since then I've been more careful about photos.

If sb12 doesn't look like her photos, or has aged a lot, or is much heavier, I'd like to say I'll walk out. But it will depend on what Johnson wants to do I guess.

Sounds like you have good discipline, Spit. I wish mine were better.

Exchanged texts yesterday with a 30yr-old from Newport News from the site (seriously hot petite blonde with major ta-tas. I suspect she's a pro or semi-pro) and set up an initial meet for tonight at a restaurant she knew. Thought we had a firm appointment, and had to be there anyway, so headed there at the appointed time. About 10 minutes before the appointed time, I got a text that she hadn't heard from me. Since I was driving I couldn't respond immediately, but when I got to a light about 10 minutes later I responded that was on my way and would be there in a minute. We were meeting at a place I'd never been before, and when I got to the address (a major intersection with stripmalls on all sides) I circled thru all the malls and couldn't find the place she had named, so I texted that I couldn't find the place and please call or text details. No response, so I called and got voicemail, left a msg, and waited. After about 10 minutes, I texted again. 20 minutes later, I got "I didn't here [i] (sic) [/i] From you so I didn't know to meet you". Shit. So I txted no problem, sorry for the confusion, I thought we had confirmed last night, did you still want to meet or re-schedule? After another 10 minutes and not hearing anything, I headed home. An hour and a half later, still no response.

So much for her.

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin; 1175595]Exchanged texts yesterday with a 30yr-old from Newport News from the site (seriously hot petite blonde with major ta-tas. I suspect she's a pro or semi-pro) and set up an initial meet for tonight at a restaurant she knew. Thought we had a firm appointment, and had to be there anyway, so headed there at the appointed time. About 10 minutes before the appointed time, I got a text that she hadn't heard from me. Since I was driving I couldn't respond immediately, but when I got to a light about 10 minutes later I responded that was on my way and would be there in a minute. We were meeting at a place I'd never been before, and when I got to the address (a major intersection with stripmalls on all sides) I circled thru all the malls and couldn't find the place she had named, so I texted that I couldn't find the place and please call or text details. No response, so I called and got voicemail, left a msg, and waited. After about 10 minutes, I texted again. 20 minutes later, I got "I didn't here [i] (sic) [/i] From you so I didn't know to meet you". Shit. So I txted no problem, sorry for the confusion, I thought we had confirmed last night, did you still want to meet or re-schedule? After another 10 minutes and not hearing anything, I headed home. An hour and a half later, still no response.

So much for her. [/QUOTE]It's aggravating to weed through the flakes, time wasters and the 'do I really want to do this' types. I always try to call or text the day before and then follow up before I hit the road to confirm since I have to travel to most of the women I meet. It's not an easy road, but every once in a while there's a reward at the end.

After emailing this lady six weeks ago or so I called it quits because of her unreasonable demands. She was actually a no show at a get acquainted meet the day I got the flat tire driving back from SB4. A few days ago I got back in touch with her, how are you doing, etc. She wanted to meet, fewer demands. It was supposed to be in a hotel bar. She actually arrived early and came straight to the room.

She's at least 39, as she said. But she is in very good shape. Beautiful ta ta's (professionally enhanced). Silky long dark hair. Slim waist, nice heart shaped ass (though a bit soft). Stretch marks show her age (like the photo of Christie I posed in another thread, very similar in appearance) and she has some flexibility issues in her joints. She looks like Minnie Driver the actress, if you remember her: dark eyes, wide mouth. A first for me: she has a stud in her clit hood. I played with it until she came and fucked her several different ways. All good.

But here's an interesting thing. She said she hadn't had sex for a while though she's been trying. She told me one dude on the sb / sd site said he was 49, promised to send a limo to drive her to him, the limo didn't show, he called to say he had problems with his private jet. She googled his digits, the guy's facebook shows he's a college student.

She said another dude gave her a bank check, she went to cash it at a bank and the check was counterfeit. She nearly got arrested.

So I guess its not just girls who are unreliable on these sites.

I'm glad I was patient with this sb. The weekend has begun well and I have a new filly in the stable if I want her.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1175648]After emailing this lady six weeks ago or so I called it quits because of her unreasonable demands. She was actually a no show at a get acquainted meet the day I got the flat tire driving back from SB4. A few days ago I got back in touch with her, how are you doing, etc. She wanted to meet, fewer demands. It was supposed to be in a hotel bar. She actually arrived early and came straight to the room.

She's at least 39, as she said. But she is in very good shape. Beautiful ta ta's (professionally enhanced). Silky long dark hair. Slim waist, nice heart shaped ass (though a bit soft). Stretch marks show her age (like the photo of Christie I posed in another thread, very similar in appearance) and she has some flexibility issues in her joints. She looks like Minnie Driver the actress, if you remember her: dark eyes, wide mouth. A first for me: she has a stud in her clit hood. I played with it until she came and fucked her several different ways. All good.

But here's an interesting thing. She said she hadn't had sex for a while though she's been trying. She told me one dude on the sb / sd site said he was 49, promised to send a limo to drive her to him, the limo didn't show, he called to say he had problems with his private jet. She googled his digits, the guy's facebook shows he's a college student.

She said another dude gave her a bank check, she went to cash it at a bank and the check was counterfeit. She nearly got arrested.

So I guess its not just girls who are unreliable on these sites.

I'm glad I was patient with this sb. The weekend has begun well and I have a new filly in the stable if I want her. [/QUOTE]Glad it went well, sometimes patience pays off. My lack of patience gets worse as I get older LOL. Let us know how it goes with SB4 and SB9

ATF SB4 opened her pussy for me again today. God I love that girl, I mean I love her body. I think I sucked her clit for a half hour while she sucked my dick. SB9 and SB12 both sent emails today confirming they will fuck on schedule tomorrow and the next day.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1158019]I'm going to take your advice on CSB1 and totally back off for awhile. I'll see if she contacts me. [/QUOTE]Cool, you were very disciplined with these ladies and I wonder if you ever loop back? I find there is something about the male-female relationship that makes girls want to say no from time to time, even if they really truly want to get laid. Usually you see this on first approach. I always expect a girl to say no the first time I ask her to be alone with me, and once she does I figure some of the pressure is off her. Then you can wait awhile and loop back. Second or third time around, she's already proved to herself she's not a prostitute because she said no before. So she can psychologically be more accepting of penetration. This may be especialy true of sb's who may be considered pro's by some but most of them don't think of themselves that way.

Now somebody who has already spread her legs for you is past that point in her mind. It could be that you just don't click with her anymore and that happens to all of us. But it could be some other dude is offering her more or is more likely to turn into a husband, you just can't tell. But I'm just wondering if you loop back.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1175219]Good luck with your weekend! I've got 2 girls lined up myself, but of course, both require travel and they're in opposite directions. Both of them are college students. I've met one of them before and I'm breaking my own rule about not seeing her again since there was nothing more than dinner the first time.[/QUOTE]Good luck to you too, Spit. Two college girls, damn. That sounds tasty.

Can I ask a question. With the girl you saw once before, what is / was your strategy for moving to penetration? Are you meeting alone this time? I remember with SB2 after a get acquainted session over cokes she emailed me saying she'd had a nice time. I replied,"So did I Sweetie, but the next time I see ya we're going to be alone and I'm going to touch ya." She said something ambiguous in response, like "I hear you," but when I got to her house she was dressed in sweatpants with no underwear and when I slipped my hand in them her pussy was boiling liquid. She turned into a squirter. I think it was the delay and her anticipation that caused her to get so hot and she knew what I was going to do to her before I arrived.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1176562]Good luck to you too, Spit. Two college girls, damn. That sounds tasty.

Can I ask a question. With the girl you saw once before, what is / was your strategy for moving to penetration? Are you meeting alone this time? I remember with SB2 after a get acquainted session over cokes she emailed me saying she'd had a nice time. I replied,"So did I Sweetie, but the next time I see ya we're going to be alone and I'm going to touch ya." She said something ambiguous in response, like "I hear you," but when I got to her house she was dressed in sweatpants with no underwear and when I slipped my hand in them her pussy was boiling liquid. She turned into a squirter. I think it was the delay and her anticipation that caused her to get so hot and she knew what I was going to do to her before I arrived. [/QUOTE]We've had discussions where I told her that I was looking for more and to make sure she's ok with that aspect of it before meeting me again. We're meeting alone this time, first to dinner then back to my hotel. I plan to have 2 envelopes ready. I'll tell her one is for dinner and goodbye and the second, much larger envelope is for serving me dessert. It will be up to her if she goes home with both envelopes or only one.

But this is her second, and final, chance to get things right.

Last night, I met my first of 2 college girls I have lined up this weekend. Not my first SB experience, but since it's the first official report on this forum, I'll call her SSB1.

As it turns out, the 'college' part was a bit of exaggeration on her part. She works at a Hooters restaurant and takes an occasional class at a community college. But she's still young, attractive and has a toned body. We met up for dinner and had nice conversation getting to know each other beyond what we had already discussed via email. She seems to be sort of a free spirit and not really sure what she wants out of life yet. But anyway, we had dinner, some laughs and proceeded back to my hotel where things progressed nicely. I'll definitely see her again.

Now it's off for a 5 hour drive in the opposite direction to meet the other young lady; hopefully it will be much smoother than the first time we met.

[QUOTE=Spitfire; 1176571]Last night, I met my first of 2 college girls I have lined up this weekend. Not my first SB experience, but since it's the first official report on this forum, I'll call her SSB1.

As it turns out, the 'college' part was a bit of exaggeration on her part. She works at a Hooters restaurant and takes an occasional class at a community college. But she's still young, attractive and has a toned body. We met up for dinner and had nice conversation getting to know each other beyond what we had already discussed via email. She seems to be sort of a free spirit and not really sure what she wants out of life yet. But anyway, we had dinner, some laughs and proceeded back to my hotel where things progressed nicely. I'll definitely see her again.

Now it's off for a 5 hour drive in the opposite direction to meet the other young lady; hopefully it will be much smoother than the first time we met. [/QUOTE]Now that sounds like a great evening. Think of all the Hooters customers who see her every day who wish they could get into her pants, but you're the one who found the key. Nice.