Sam, I tend to agree with the other guys. Your approach is making the MS nervous. I have been lucky enough to have 100% success rate at the known "extra service spas" and maybe 50% success rate (over time) at the legit places. Here are some suggestions, and I will let the other guys add their two cents. (1) Never ever ever discuss services or prices. Never. All this does is put them on notice and put them in the awkward position of incriminating themselves. (2) Be friendly and nice to the Mamasan, but don't forget she is the enforcer of rules. She does not get the tip, so why on earth would she reveal anything. 100% percent of the girls tell me before we FS, "Don't tell the boss". Even places I've been to over 50 times, (like Anna's) Anna and I have an unwritten rule: "Don't tell her about anything that goes on inside. " (3) Make sure you get to know places and become a regular, so they know you are a safe, good customer. If you have gone somewhere a few times, the MS will tell her girl, "That is Sam. He is a good customer. Be nice to him. " (4) When you do have a great session, make double sure you get the girl's name and contact info: WeChat, (Chinese) or KaKao Talk (Korean) for example. Tell her you had a wonderful time and want to see her again. What days does she work, etc. (5) Bring fruit or some other gift on return visits (usually on the third visit). If you do FS, then put two condoms on the table when you undress. Nothing drops a hint better than condoms. And two is better than one. It shows you are. Eh - strong. By the way, never ever use their condoms. Many times they are re-used. (I shit you not). (6) Skip the table shower. Or Don't. It wastes your time in private. They (mostly Koreans) do the shower for three reasons. (a) Inspection and cleaning of your junk. (b) helps to discourage LEO, (c) allows an assembly line approach. For your 60 minutes you get 10 TS, 10 Sauna, about 15 massage and about 10 extras. That's a generalization. But You can see the TS / Sauna cuts into your fun time. (7) Skip the towel. Just lie down naked on the table. (8) I always offer to massage the girl. They almost always accept. If you play yours cards right, you will get her naked on the table with you naked massaging her. Make sure you give her a genuine comfortable massage, before you play with the good parts. Shit, man. It's foreplay. (9) Never discuss price, but always be fair. If she asks, you just say you will take care of her. (10) Keep track of the girl. Make sure you go to places she used to work at, and follow her to places she moves to. That way (a) you know more places, and (b) the girl knows you and each time she offers more. (11) If you do go to a new place, and MS asks have you been here before, just say the truth, and then mention 3-4 other places you know offers extras. So, lets say you are at New Life on Elmhurst, you say, something like I have been going to Yun Spa, but not as good anymore. I want to find a new spa to go to. (12) Always always be nice, friendly, funny, and respectful. At the end of the day, the girl makes the choice of whether to have fun with the customer. If you are a jerk, or stinky, or cheap, or give off a strange vibe, she will not want to do anything with you. You have to invest money. There is no way around it. But your odds improve if you enjoy yourself, and don't seem to pushy. Good luck. Happy Hunting. Bob.
[QUOTE=SamSinger;2480966]Hey, easy. Easy man. Not that I have gone around everywhere probing them. It was just one trial and that too on a whim. If there is such a risk, I will stop it.[/QUOTE]
