Gross on several levels.
It looks like a post op to me.
[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]Anyone see this crazy sh!t on CL. My, oh my what a crazy fucked up world we live in.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ers/1131853366.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Gross on several levels.
It looks like a post op to me.
[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]Anyone see this crazy sh!t on CL. My, oh my what a crazy fucked up world we live in.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ers/1131853366.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Northsideman]If the chick being in the rag isn't freaky enough for you, her bi-sexual boyfriend is also available! Is this an ad aimed at "bug-catchers" (people, usually gay men, who intentionally want to get AIDS)?[/QUOTE]Surely you jest?
There are people who want to catch aids?
[QUOTE=XxATLxX]Whats so odd about that? Lots of people, myself included, are into period sex. Always done it with my SO at the time, but nothing odd about a provider offering it IMO. Def not something to freak out over.[/QUOTE]
A "provider" offering this type of service is downright sickening and dangerous to say the least IMO.
Sh*t, I'm guilty too.
Dozens of times over the years with my S/O.
[QUOTE=XxATLxX]Whats so odd about that? Lots of people, myself included, are into period sex. Always done it with my SO at the time, but nothing odd about a provider offering it IMO. Def not something to freak out over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]A "provider" offering this type of service is downright sickening and dangerous to say the least IMO.[/QUOTE]
I would support the dangerous part. Everyone is into something a bit different. Like a previous poster, I have had sex with a close, MONOGAMOUS partner numerous times.
A bit messy, but we both enjoyed ourselves during and after. The warm shower afterward was a lot of fun (okay, so we wanted to go get messy again). :D
But given the preponderance of blood borne diseases around today. I would definitely not partake of her services.
Who knows, after a bath and a douche, she might be worthwhile. I personally like hairy beavers. Shaved are okay too, but if we were to have bald pubic areas, why do we grow hair there when we hit puberty?
With my SO I have also but its different than me doing it in the hobby. My SO found something at wal mart to use its like the cup women use to use for bc I think and it keeps it from showing up on my little man.
[QUOTE=Readytogetonit]Sh*t, I'm guilty too.
Dozens of times over the years with my S/O.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Readytogetonit]Sh*t, I'm guilty too.
Dozens of times over the years with my S/O.[/QUOTE]
Folks, screwing your SO or wife while she's on the rag, if it's your thing, then NOT a problem.....but to purposely seek out and fuck a provider/SW while she's on the rag is some dangerous shit.....just my $.02(2 cents)
I'm not into the blood thing at all - BUT - don't fool yourself. Pussy juice is just as likely to contain HIV as blood. Bodily fluids are bodily fluids - some are just more colorful!
BTW - saliva is the exception. Since it is acidic (to help break down food), HIV doesn't stand much of a chance in there.
[QUOTE=Ren Man]I'm not into the blood thing at all - BUT - don't fool yourself. Pussy juice is just as likely to contain HIV as blood. Bodily fluids are bodily fluids - some are just more colorful!
BTW - saliva is the exception. Since it is acidic (to help break down food), HIV doesn't stand much of a chance in there.[/QUOTE]
Can you cite any research, medical science, etc. on these two claims?
I would have posted just the opposite.
HIV is found in blood, and is transferred blood to blood. Period.
Saliva kills HIV? We'd have had a vaccine in 1983 if that were true.
Not knocking you . . . just would like to know your sources on this.
One of us is prone to give our friends VERY dangerous misinformation.
[QUOTE=Busy Lurker]Can you cite any research, medical science, etc. on these two claims?
I would have posted just the opposite.
HIV is found in blood, and is transferred blood to blood. Period.
Saliva kills HIV? We'd have had a vaccine in 1983 if that were true.
Not knocking you . . . just would like to know your soures on this.
One of us is prone to give our friends VERY dangerous misinformation.[/QUOTE]This is somewhat true. Outside the body, HIV dies almost immediately. In a dead person, it dies within minutes (My brother had AIDS and I know a lot about this). You CAN contract it through saliva, but it is extremely rare...99.99% rare or about the same as a condom...that's why the dentists won all those lawsuits back in the 90's. What is more likely orally is Herpes.
[QUOTE=Busy Lurker]Can you cite any research, medical science, etc. on these two claims?
I would have posted just the opposite.
HIV is found in blood, and is transferred blood to blood. Period.
[/QUOTE]
WRONG. A small amount of research on your part will tell you otherwise.
Three main transmission routes for HIV have been identified. HIV-2 is transmitted much less frequently by the mother-to-child and sexual route than HIV-1.
Sexual
The majority of HIV infections are acquired through unprotected sexual relations. Sexual transmission can occur when infected sexual secretions of one partner come into contact with the genital, oral, or rectal mucous membranes of another. In high-income countries, the risk of female-to-male transmission is 0.04% per act and male-to-female transmission is 0.08% per act. For various reasons, these rates are 4 to 10 times higher in low-income countries.[34]
The correct and consistent use of latex condoms reduces the risk of sexual transmission of HIV by about 85%.[35] However, spermicide may actually increase the male to female transmission rate due to inflammation of the vagina.[36]
Blood or blood product
In general if infected blood comes into contact with any open wound, HIV may be transmitted. This transmission route can account for infections in intravenous drug users, hemophiliacs and recipients of blood transfusions (though most transfusions are checked for HIV in the developed world) and blood products. It is also of concern for persons receiving medical care in regions where there is prevalent substandard hygiene in the use of injection equipment, such as the reuse of needles in Third World countries. Health care workers such as nurses, laboratory workers, and doctors have also been infected, although this occurs more rarely. People who give and receive tattoos, piercings, and scarification procedures can also be at risk of infection.
Since transmission of HIV by blood became known medical personnel are required to protect themselves from contact with blood by the use of Universal precautions.
Mother-to-child
The transmission of the virus from the mother to the child can occur in utero during pregnancy and intrapartum at childbirth. In the absence of treatment, the transmission rate between the mother and child is around 25 percent.[28] However, where combination antiretroviral drug treatment and Cesarian section are available, this risk can be reduced to as low as one percent.[28]
Breast feeding also presents a risk of infection for the baby.
Other routes
HIV has been found at low concentrations in the saliva, tears and urine of infected individuals, but there are no recorded cases of infection by these secretions and the potential risk of transmission is negligible.[44]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiv[/url]
[QUOTE=XxATLxX]WRONG. A small amount of research on your part will tell you otherwise.
HIV has been found at low concentrations in the saliva, tears and urine of infected individuals, but there are no recorded cases of infection by these secretions and the potential risk of transmission is negligible.[44]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiv[/url][/QUOTE]That's comforting to know BBBJ risk is negligible :) Didn't know how I forgot to check wiki, which is my bible :) So, it is up to the guys now to know with whom it is worth.
So 'look before you leap' - unless they look clean dont do it.
[QUOTE=XxATLxX]WRONG. A small amount of research on your part will tell you otherwise.
Three main transmission routes for HIV have been identified. HIV-2 is transmitted much less frequently by the mother-to-child and sexual route than HIV-1.
Sexual
The majority of HIV infections are acquired through unprotected sexual relations. Sexual transmission can occur when infected sexual secretions of one partner come into contact with the genital, oral, or rectal mucous membranes of another. In high-income countries, the risk of female-to-male transmission is 0.04% per act and male-to-female transmission is 0.08% per act. For various reasons, these rates are 4 to 10 times higher in low-income countries.[34]
The correct and consistent use of latex condoms reduces the risk of sexual transmission of HIV by about 85%.[35] However, spermicide may actually increase the male to female transmission rate due to inflammation of the vagina.[36]
Blood or blood product
In general if infected blood comes into contact with any open wound, HIV may be transmitted. This transmission route can account for infections in intravenous drug users, hemophiliacs and recipients of blood transfusions (though most transfusions are checked for HIV in the developed world) and blood products. It is also of concern for persons receiving medical care in regions where there is prevalent substandard hygiene in the use of injection equipment, such as the reuse of needles in Third World countries. Health care workers such as nurses, laboratory workers, and doctors have also been infected, although this occurs more rarely. People who give and receive tattoos, piercings, and scarification procedures can also be at risk of infection.
Since transmission of HIV by blood became known medical personnel are required to protect themselves from contact with blood by the use of Universal precautions.
Mother-to-child
The transmission of the virus from the mother to the child can occur in utero during pregnancy and intrapartum at childbirth. In the absence of treatment, the transmission rate between the mother and child is around 25 percent.[28] However, where combination antiretroviral drug treatment and Cesarian section are available, this risk can be reduced to as low as one percent.[28]
Breast feeding also presents a risk of infection for the baby.
Other routes
HIV has been found at low concentrations in the saliva, tears and urine of infected individuals, but there are no recorded cases of infection by these secretions and the potential risk of transmission is negligible.[44]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiv[/url][/QUOTE]I'm not disputing your post, but I wouldn't trust wikipedia for something as important as this.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/transmission.htm[/url]
Kissing
Casual contact through closed-mouth or "social" kissing is not a risk for transmission of HIV. Because of the potential for contact with blood during "French" or open-mouth kissing, CDC recommends against engaging in this activity with a person known to be infected. However, the risk of acquiring HIV during open-mouth kissing is believed to be very low. CDC has investigated only one case of HIV infection that may be attributed to contact with blood during open-mouth kissing.
Saliva, Tears, and Sweat
HIV has been found in saliva and tears in very low quantities from some AIDS patients. It is important to understand that finding a small amount of HIV in a body fluid does not necessarily mean that HIV can be transmitted by that body fluid. HIV has not been recovered from the sweat of HIV-infected persons. Contact with saliva, tears, or sweat has never been shown to result in transmission of HIV.
Neither circumstance is likely to be a cause, but then again, who wants to be one of the "rare" circumstances. Why put oneself in a situation where the odds are increased? That much blood could infect an area not protected. To me it's gross, but even worse I'd be worried about the risk and unable to enjoy it if it wasn't gross.
[QUOTE=Busy Lurker]
Saliva kills HIV? We'd have had a vaccine in 1983 if that were true.
[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. I can see how you'd formulate that conclusion, but to summarize the response below: just because a virus can't thrive in something, doesn't mean that it would necessarily lead to a cure or vaccine. There are household disinfectants that can rid surfaces of viruses, including HIV. It can't live in and on everything.
[QUOTE=Crossctry]I'm not disputing your post, but I wouldn't trust wikipedia for something as important as this.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/transmission.htm[/url]
Kissing
Casual contact through closed-mouth or "social" kissing is not a risk for transmission of HIV. Because of the potential for contact with blood during "French" or open-mouth kissing, CDC recommends against engaging in this activity with a person known to be infected. However, the risk of acquiring HIV during open-mouth kissing is believed to be very low. CDC has investigated only one case of HIV infection that may be attributed to contact with blood during open-mouth kissing.
Saliva, Tears, and Sweat
HIV has been found in saliva and tears in very low quantities from some AIDS patients. It is important to understand that finding a small amount of HIV in a body fluid does not necessarily mean that HIV can be transmitted by that body fluid. HIV has not been recovered from the sweat of HIV-infected persons. Contact with saliva, tears, or sweat has never been shown to result in transmission of HIV.
Neither circumstance is likely to be a cause, but then again, who wants to be one of the "rare" circumstances. Why put oneself in a situation where the odds are increased? That much blood could infect an area not protected. To me it's gross, but even worse I'd be worried about the risk and unable to enjoy it if it wasn't gross.[/QUOTE]
If you look at the bottom, almost all of that is cited. So technically, the information isnt coming from Wiki.
Also, you pretty much reposted everything I had originally posted.