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This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.
Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.
As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.
So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.
It's called "White Knighting".
IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.
(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!
(2) like all do your research!
Know the facts before jumping into anything.
BG,
P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one!
[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2822911]This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.
Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.
As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.
So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2822935]IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.
(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!
(2) like all do your research!
Know the facts before jumping into anything.
BG,
P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one![/QUOTE]Where is there another negative report on SexyRed besides #7635? Anyone?
One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.
[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2822937]Where is there another negative report on SexyRed besides #7635? Anyone?
One person with a history of stalking isn't credible.[/QUOTE]Start reading from the below post and then at least the next few posts. Some things are not posted on the board for many reasons. Sometimes what others say is reason enough. It's your choice.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4037-Escort-Reports&p=2816932&viewfull=1#post2816932[/URL]
[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2822911]This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.
Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.
As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.
So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.[/QUOTE]And you don't know the truth about that one either. We all make mistakes in helping providers in hopes they go the right path in life. You want to bring her out on this forum, well you better be ready to defend your comments about a past issue that you have no idea of what the truth is when many others do. That ex-provider is so messed up right now that her current life downfall is proof enough of my story. So since you know so much why don't you go over and see her and stay on that side of town. Go ahead and attack again. Your good at talking about things you know [B]NOTHING[/B] about. Ignorance is bliss isn't it!
I have kept quiet until this point but felt I should chime in at some point. Those that have been on this board for a while, have at least an idea of my previous involvement with the provider being discussed. I would contend that I probably know her better than anyone on this board with possibly the exception of FF and have knowledge of the situations discussed back to when they occured. I have chosen to stay out of this argument until this point for reasons that have not been mentioned so far and will not be at any point.
The bottom line is FF mentioned in a posting the word "choices". It is every monger's choice as to whether or not they choose to see her. Some will refuse to see her. Some will see her and openly admit it. While others will see her privately while at the same time claiming they will not see her publicly.
Every monger has a choice on who they choose to see. Feel free to read what is out her, the parties involved, and make your own choice. No one can stop you! Several members of this board have already expressed this but sometimes the brotherhood needs to stick together. Choices? What is yours?
Indy Guy.
[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2822911]This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.
Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.
As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.
So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.[/QUOTE]So Not sure what your deal is and it's not your "personal army " to try to slander and accuse someone of something that is what third party coffee talk? Were you sitting in the closet hiding when FF arrived "stalking "? FF has always looked at both sides of a situation when it has came to problems between providers and mongers. He has always stated his opinions fairly and justifiably. Obviously there is factual basis on things in regards to this that he feels mongers should know. So really not understanding this personal attack on someone that has been nothing but a reliable, respected and reputable member of this forum. Obviously there is truth and facts to what FF has said unlike yours. FYI he's NOT the only one that has had issues with her and I've never seen a post that FF has commented on, started etc without merit and facts. So I'm sure the other 15-20 mongers that she has screwed over and done wrong would tell you the same thing. Oh and my posting BTW is not based on third party coffee talk, mine comes from the "friends " that have visited me that have personally been affected by her ways. Let her fight her own battles and own up to her behavior. Speaking of "white night " syndrome as you mentioned. Sounds like you are trying to be the knight in this situation and really dude your trying to the save wrong hoe.
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2823058]I have kept quiet until this point but felt I should chime in at some point. Those that have been on this board for a while, have at least an idea of my previous involvement with the provider being discussed. I would contend that I probably know her better than anyone on this board with possibly the exception of FF and have knowledge of the situations discussed back to when they occured. I have chosen to stay out of this argument until this point for reasons that have not been mentioned so far and will not be at any point.
The bottom line is FF mentioned in a posting the word "choices". It is every monger's choice as to whether or not they choose to see her. Some will refuse to see her. Some will see her and openly admit it. While others will see her privately while at the same time claiming they will not see her publicly.
Every monger has a choice on who they choose to see. Feel free to read what is out her, the parties involved, and make your own choice. No one can stop you! Several members of this board have already expressed this but sometimes the brotherhood needs to stick together. Choices? What is yours?
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]Well said.
For the record FF, I think you're a valuable asset to the forum but mongers, in general, have a tendency to get attached. Which is why I suggest viewing things with a jaundiced eye.
"There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently."
[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2822935]IndyAnon, I don't know you, but I do know freckle Freak and would stand with him in any fight. I know about the drama sounding SexyRed and you should have done two things.
(1) not put this on blast for everyone to see. A PM would have been the proper way!
(2) like all do your research!
Know the facts before jumping into anything.
BG,
P.S. Better to look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove your one![/QUOTE]I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.
[QUOTE=Nostra3;2823219]I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.[/QUOTE]I never had the chance to meet FF because he went into retirement right before my visit to Indy, but I had a crappy incident happen to me while there and he took time out of his day to talk to me over the phone and gave me really good advice. He really is a great guy and I don't believe he stalked anybody, but how can you blame a guy for stalking a provider who was likely a hot ass red head with freckles. I would've stalked the hell out of her too.
[QUOTE=Nostra3;2823219]I whole heartedly second BG on this. FF is a stand up guy and I stand with him. He does have the ability to actually care about the well being of providers in a way that I've never had, but stalking is an outrageous claim made by someone who is a big of a disaster as SexyRed is. Absolutely no truth to that story, period.[/QUOTE]I never met SexyRed, and I know very little about her issues. But I have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.
[QUOTE=Scup1958;2823257]I never met SexyRed, and I know very little about her issues. But I have known FF for years and I know that his good intentions toward providers sometimes results in his being more involved in their lives than most of us care to be. To characterize his good intentions as stalking is, as Nostra has said, simply outrageous. Thank you FF for being such a good friend to so many of the ladies and gents of this community.[/QUOTE]Although I'm still very low in the ranks, I'd like to chime in. I've been hobbying for quite some time, and I too have genuinely cared about a few along the way. That makes me guilty of nothing but kindness. Nothing good ever evolved, but at least I made an effort. Some are here to find something lost, other to explore new places. Either way, lets not forget the primary objective. To share information and to have the back of our fellow comrades. Both active AND retired. There will always be those of us who do things differently than others, but remember why we're all here. To have fun and stay safe. Everyone is responsible for taking all available information, and making their own decisions based on what THEY think is best. If you don't like Howard Stern, listen to Bob and Tom. But share what you've learned and let other decide their fate. During the middle of writing all of this, my cassette player ate my Duran Duran greatest hits tape, so now I'm sad. Don't be sad like me, go out and monger!!
[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2822911]This all looks like a repeat from the past back when your posted on aNotheR forum.
Some people may remember "FreckledRedHead". One day Freckle you were extolling her virtues and the next your complaints were much the same. No respect etc. Etc.
As it turned out. You randomly were showing up at her house in front of her kids and boyfriend and were accused of stalking her.
So no I don't believe your account of the other redhead here is credible due to past indiscretions.[/QUOTE]Anyone that questions FF in any way shape or form has no clue. He has done more than most ever would for people and if he says it you can can guarantee it so everyone makes their own choices. If you choose not to listen that's in you.
Disclaimer: I am biased; however, I can't be bought--there was no exchange of beer for the content of this post.
Now, with that out of the way, I must point out some of what others are saying. Look at these post titles:
If you question FF there is no help.
This hobby has no better friend than FF.
Truth.
Choices!
These positive comments, borne out of first-hand observation, come from both sides of this hobby. That should send a clear message about the fella.
What I have seen, also first-hand, is that this character (and OMG he is!) has character. He is not one to speak out of turn, based on rumor or conjecture. He has an intimate perspective on the hobby.
FF has been known to go way beyond the extra mile to help providers (and is happily reaping what he sowed) as well as provide top-notch insight, wisdom and even coaching to mongers (which is why he gets free beer).
Thank you, Sensei, for your wisdom, wit and friendship.