Massage Parlor Reports

Its vacation week for them.

[QUOTE=RaulJulia;5794127]Hey Guys, I'm fairly new to the hobby and new to the forum here. I've been reading reviews and trying to figure out my next outing and was thinking of taking a trip to Luxe since it seems, based on your reports, that is a place where the girls offer lots of extras, at least compared to other places. However, it looks like they've taken down all of their ads on STG. Has anyone else noticed this and if so, does anyone know why or what's going on? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

She is real. Reports of her boyfriend causing some issues by hanging out and causing problems while at BBU.

That is a no go for me as I don't need that at prices being charged.

[QUOTE=TigerEye2525;5794031]Hey everyone it's been a bit since I've posted but I can across this ad on stg. Wondering if any of you have seen her. Is it too good to be true? Her ad seems to be legit but I wanted to check with why'all first. I usually stay in the boundaries of Brit and hew crew where it's fun and safe. Thanks everyone in advance.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/seductress-sassy-and-fun-sensu/573007894001[/URL][/QUOTE].

I heard a rumor hat Jessica B is working out of the same building as SweetChecks. Just something I heard, but can't find any ads or anything to prove it. Jessica was gone so long I don't have a number and her old website is down.

Anyone her this?

[QUOTE=RGonzo;5793431]Are there extras available? Or is it more of a Blessings massage?[/QUOTE]Both girls give a HE. The other girl is Amanda. She is strong, don't arm wrestle her. As a reminder, this place is in the old MBD location, 1400 block of Michigan. Parking is tight during weekdays, okay in eves and weekends.

60 buck per hour cash only.

[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;5795085]She is real. Reports of her boyfriend causing some issues by hanging out and causing problems while at BBU.

That is a no go for me as I don't need that at prices being charged..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the heads up and I'm in that same boat.

I don't need that drama and I'll stick with Brit and her amazing crew. Love all the Bodyworks ladies and especially Brit. Her tease before the flip is amazing. Something about those soft hands fingers lightly caressing your balls and inner thighs. Thankful too for y'all and this forum. Grateful there's a place like this where we can all look out for each other and keep each other safe. To an extent. Take care and be well.

Was on my way to GR to see someone when they flaked on me. Tried a few others with no bites. Decided to go to Pancaea, which I haven't been to in a few years. $50 for hh. Ended up with Alia, who I didn't see in the pictures. Cute black girl, decent massage. On the flip she asked for a tip and wanted $100 for topless. I told her I know had $50 left. She was reluctant, but took her top off anyway. She said it's the sign of the times when I told her that I'm used to matching the house fee as a tip. Natalie was there earlier in the day, but gone by the time I got there. A few other girls were in the back room.

If this is the new way, I'm unlikely to be back.

[QUOTE=NamesTheGoblin;5790631]I've been super busy setting up my small business in my home town, I decided after a 48 hour work day that I really needed to relax.

Decided to go to panacea after remembering my times with Eve. I learned that Eve left for BBU. I inquired about a hour there, they said they were taking duo appointments for right then.

I decided to give it the ol college try, and met Alliah and Melony.

The massage was what I needed most in all honesty. I've been stressed, and I've had a hard time finding ANY time to address my sore muscles. They did a halfway decent job together, and even gave me twinges of feeling back in my numb upper legs.

Then the up charge happened. The HE they said was free, however if I wanted topless it would be 100 per girl, and fully nude 200 per girl. I decided against it, and went for fully clothed. Then they wanted 100 per girl to allow roaming, and then another 100 per girl to have their tiny tits in my face. I remember when I could pay 140 and get a full hour massage with nude HE with roming, and even then it was considered too expensive by people here. Don't think I'm going to go to Panacea again if this is the new quality they have. They are charging serenity prices without going near as far as serenity.[/QUOTE]Ok guys I've heard from a very reliable source that the lady that owns Panacea is not happy at all with some of the new girls such as Alliyah, Melanie and others that are charging ridiculous amounts and ruining Panacea's rep. The girls are on their way out and will be gone soon. As I've said many times, the good ones that make all the money there get fully nude right away and never even mention a tip. None of these girls would go into a restaurant and pay for their meal and tip the waitress before even being served, that would be crazy! The best thing to do is be upfront with the girl as soon as you get in the room. Tell her "I don't discuss a tip until after our session which makes it more enjoyable for both of us. I will always tip accordingly and if you provide a good and fun session, I promise to match the door fee and if you are exceptional, I'll even go higher. Let's have fun!" If they don't agree to that, then you know they were planning on ripping you off so just tell them "fine just continue with the massage for the time I've paid for and I'll make myself happy". At this point they will come around or if not, get your money back if they won't finish the massage that you've paid for.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5796672]Ok guys I've heard from a very reliable source that the lady that owns Panacea is not happy at all with some of the new girls such as Alliyah, Melanie and others that are charging ridiculous amounts and ruining Panacea's rep. The girls are on their way out and will be gone soon. As I've said many times, the good ones that make all the money there get fully nude right away and never even mention a tip. None of these girls would go into a restaurant and pay for their meal and tip the waitress before even being served, that would be crazy! The best thing to do is be upfront with the girl as soon as you get in the room. Tell her "I don't discuss a tip until after our session which makes it more enjoyable for both of us. I will always tip accordingly and if you provide a good and fun session, I promise to match the door fee and if you are exceptional, I'll even go higher. Let's have fun!" If they don't agree to that, then you know they were planning on ripping you off so just tell them "fine just continue with the massage for the time I've paid for and I'll make myself happy". At this point they will come around or if not, get your money back if they won't finish the massage that you've paid for.[/QUOTE]Sadly, this may be a death spiral. They fired half the staff shortly after doubling the massage rooms (not an inexpensive investment), and those women are not coming back. That has left them scrambling to fill the roster. The tip happy bullshit seems to be the trend with the new girls, not good. And even if the owner may not like it, unless it stops the business will not go well. I hope they right this ship before it sinks, because this has been a solid parlor for a long time, and there are still several good gals on staff.

While I agree with the strategy that LtL suggests, you can do this much more simply. Call ahead and request someone you know is good. If none are available, take a 30 minute with someone new. Do not take the luck of the draw on a walk in. And don't mention a tip or negotiate, just enjoy the massage and the girl. Treat her with respect and chat her up. If she gets comfortable and fun in the end, then give her a normal tip ($40 for a half hour, $60 for an hour, more if the experience merits it), and be sure to repeat with her again. If not and she plays the shitty tip crazy crap, simply decline and tell her you don't discuss money during session for both of your legal protection, plus it is tacky and ruins the mood of the relaxing massage she has been giving. See how she reacts. This recovery has worked for me a couple times, where I was able to coach a newbie away from the dark side and salvage a decent session (rare but it can happen). If she gets more shitty, then just bag it and leave, no tip at all. You're only out $50. Either way, post a review so the good or bad behavior in session results in the appropriate feedback to the girl, shop, and the community. That's my humble advice.

[QUOTE=Tommey;5796929]Sadly, this may be a death spiral. They fired half the staff shortly after doubling the massage rooms (not an inexpensive investment), and those women are not coming back. That has left them scrambling to fill the roster. The tip happy bullshit seems to be the trend with the new girls, not good. And even if the owner may not like it, unless it stops the business will not go well. I hope they right this ship before it sinks, because this has been a solid parlor for a long time, and there are still several good gals on staff.

While I agree with the strategy that LtL suggests, you can do this much more simply. Call ahead and request someone you know is good. If none are available, take a 30 minute with someone new. Do not take the luck of the draw on a walk in. And don't mention a tip or negotiate, just enjoy the massage and the girl. Treat her with respect and chat her up. If she gets comfortable and fun in the end, then give her a normal tip ($40 for a half hour, $60 for an hour, more if the experience merits it), and be sure to repeat with her again. If not and she plays the shitty tip crazy crap, simply decline and tell her you don't discuss money during session for both of your legal protection, plus it is tacky and ruins the mood of the relaxing massage she has been giving. See how she reacts. This recovery has worked for me a couple times, where I was able to coach a newbie away from the dark side and salvage a decent session (rare but it can happen)..[/QUOTE]Even more simple, go to bodyworks.

[QUOTE=Tommey;5796929]Sadly, this may be a death spiral. They fired half the staff shortly after doubling the massage rooms (not an inexpensive investment), and those women are not coming back. That has left them scrambling to fill the roster. The tip happy bullshit seems to be the trend with the new girls, not good. And even if the owner may not like it, unless it stops the business will not go well. I hope they right this ship before it sinks, because this has been a solid parlor for a long time, and there are still several good gals on staff.

While I agree with the strategy that LtL suggests, you can do this much more simply. Call ahead and request someone you know is good. If none are available, take a 30 minute with someone new. Do not take the luck of the draw on a walk in. And don't mention a tip or negotiate, just enjoy the massage and the girl. Treat her with respect and chat her up. If she gets comfortable and fun in the end, then give her a normal tip ($40 for a half hour, $60 for an hour, more if the experience merits it), and be sure to repeat with her again. If not and she plays the shitty tip crazy crap, simply decline and tell her you don't discuss money during session for both of your legal protection, plus it is tacky and ruins the mood of the relaxing massage she has been giving. See how she reacts. This recovery has worked for me a couple times, where I was able to coach a newbie away from the dark side and salvage a decent session (rare but it can happen).[/QUOTE]You repeated exactly what I said in my post and I agree with that also!

I have to place a review, because I thought this woman was incredibly rude, impatient and older and more un-attractive than is certainly advertised.

I've heard her described as a "granny", and I agree. She needs to get out of this game. I won't go into specifics, since I know she reads this site, and hates it.

But you can PM, if you'd like. I saw a review comparing Simply Sweet Vs. Sweet Megan.

And I recommend Simply Sweet 1000% MORE than Sweet Megan.

Just my opinion.

Avoid:

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-sweet-meganhere-unt/551838018021[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5796672]Ok guys I've heard from a very reliable source that the lady that owns Panacea is not happy at all with some of the new girls such as Alliyah, Melanie and others that are charging ridiculous amounts and ruining Panacea's rep. The girls are on their way out and will be gone soon. As I've said many times, the good ones that make all the money there get fully nude right away and never even mention a tip. None of these girls would go into a restaurant and pay for their meal and tip the waitress before even being served, that would be crazy! The best thing to do is be upfront with the girl as soon as you get in the room. Tell her "I don't discuss a tip until after our session which makes it more enjoyable for both of us. I will always tip accordingly and if you provide a good and fun session, I promise to match the door fee and if you are exceptional, I'll even go higher. Let's have fun!" If they don't agree to that, then you know they were planning on ripping you off so just tell them "fine just continue with the massage for the time I've paid for and I'll make myself happy". At this point they will come around or if not, get your money back if they won't finish the massage that you've paid for.[/QUOTE]Or. Just go to the gold standard place right now. BodyworkByUs. Brit is a very savvy business mind coupled with a gorgeous body. You can have your choice of a great variety of girls there. I have never had to plan a strategy for BodyworkByUs. Predetermined pricing. While there is a degree of YMMV we all know that BJ and FS are not on the menu. What is available is gorgeous women of varied ages and body types who get nude and join you on the table. Each has their special allure. And they are all clean, delightful, and drama-free.

At $110 hhr. $150 45 min. $180 hr. It's a known price and a known experience. I usually leave a $20 to $30 tip for outstanding service. But that's me. Brit says the girls don't expect a tip. But the do accept them. Including Brit.

Been to Panacea, and without Natasha, it's too hit or miss. I agree Natalie is good, but her hours are limited.

BodyworkByUs is just plain better. Even if prices eventually get an inflationary bump.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/bbu-madison-brit-eris-cecilia/319027618780[/URL]

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=RGonzo;5785710]I've visited here many times over the years, sometimes the service is good, sometimes it's bad, and like today it's abysmal.

I drew London, a young bbw, sometimes they are fun, and not so demanding on the tips. I think she has an inflated opinion of her services and what she can get for them. I dropped. 6 as a tip to get her top off, and a tolerable HJ. She told me that she's had difficulty establishing regulars, and for what she is asking I can see why. 2.5 for BBBJ? Ehhhhh I'll pass. I guess I'll be sticking with my usual haunts on the far south end for now on. I wish we could get the likes of a wonder massage, or Panacea on the south end.[/QUOTE]Which Pacific are you referring to? Because I have been a regular at 28th Street for a while now and I've never ran into a London can you be more specific that way I can stay clear because all of the other girls at the Cascade location definitely treat me right and I would hate to run into a bad one.

I agree, you can go either LtL's route or mine, and you will land in the same spot. While the LtL approach is to open by announcing your stand on tipping at the start, I'd rather just never talk money. If she brings it up, shut it down quick and simple ("I don't talk money during the session ") One other important part of my suggestion is, if you go to Panacea then see someone you know is good, or be prepared to deal with some bullshit.

Gene makes a compelling point. With an option like BbU, why bother? In the past, Panacea was cheap and easy. They had a strong staff, and an hour only cost $120. So you could drop in whenever. Now with the higher rates and half as many quality gals, it's not such a great option. The one challenge at BbU is they are a small shop, and the girls have limited availability, so you need to plan ahead. They are the gold standard.

[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;5794915]Its vacation week for them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know. I was afraid this place had shut its doors before I ever got a chance to try it out.