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[QUOTE=Toomgis;5190322]Texas men are men. Seattle men are blue haired, man buns, septum piercing wusses. It doesn't bring out the woman in women.[/QUOTE]I'm not from TX but I'm also not from here, and boy you ain't lying. It's an uphill battle because of all the simps and cucks. Sounds like a trip to DFW is in order.
I have to agree rates are out of control because too much tech money and they are paying the rates even at the AMP. You used to only pay $$ at the AAMP. Now those are jacked up there doing an average of $$40 and some $$ Mongers need to start pushing back and try to bring it back to $$. Personally I only visit AMP's that offer for $60. I know the ladies are asking since Mary at Good massage kept asking for $$ said I only had $60 and she finally agreed.
[QUOTE=ChopperDan113;5189819]The only reason the average $$ is so high now is because dumb F at &% guys are paying for it and on top of that the girls are putting out less. A few girls on TNA have VIP, I ask one of them what was ok in her VIP and she said it was just CFS and that is it. Its all CBJ on TNA, what happen to BBBJ. I will tell you what happen, guys are paying for CBJ and it sucks. Texas girls are all BBBJ and everything else. CBJ is unheard of there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ExtraFun2006;5190340]I have to agree rates are out of control because too much tech money and they are paying the rates even at the AMP. You used to only pay $$ at the AAMP. Now those are jacked up there doing an average of $$40 and some $$ Mongers need to start pushing back and try to bring it back to $$. Personally I only visit AMP's that offer for $60. I know the ladies are asking since Mary at Good massage kept asking for $$ said I only had $60 and she finally agreed.[/QUOTE]Well, well stated! I've been complaining about rates for quite some time. My maximum for a provider is $220 to $240 an hour, but services MUST include BBBJ, DATY, DATO, and BBFS. For an escort, a private In Call is also a requirement. For AMPs, yeah, an hourly rate of $60 is my max, and with the typically extra being a HE / HJ, I give a maximum of $40 for the tip. If the gal at an AMP does offer more, than again, the maximum I pay is around $200 (can typically pay less for the services I mentioned at an AMP).
For AAMPs, with a starting rate of $140 for the hour, that makes it difficult to pay only $220. But every once in a while, I've been lucky. But it's been a long, long time for that.
Unfortunately, as you stated, all these high tech folks will pay more, and same with most of the mongers over at TNA. That makes it more difficult to negotiate for less. But, we must hold the line!
It isn't like Seattle thirty years ago was anything to brag about.
In general escorts and indys were $150-$200 for uninspired covered sex or $150-$200 and an insane upsell for uninspired covered sex. AMPs were about $200 out (house + tip) for everything covered.
The best deals I found in those times was a plump redheaded girl in Kent with an amazing and highly functional mouth for $150 (uncovered) and an AMP in Bellevue (and later Kirkland) where the young korean hotties would provide more-or-less GFE service for about $200 or $220. An added bonus is that I sometimes meet one of those girls who is now working a north end MP thirty years later.
[QUOTE=ExtraFun2006;5190340]I have to agree rates are out of control because too much tech money and they are paying the rates even at the AMP. You used to only pay $$ at the AAMP. Now those are jacked up there doing an average of $$40 and some $$ Mongers need to start pushing back and try to bring it back to $$. Personally I only visit AMP's that offer for $60. I know the ladies are asking since Mary at Good massage kept asking for $$ said I only had $60 and she finally agreed.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.
If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.
I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.
[QUOTE=LeftEye;5190605]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.
If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.
I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.[/QUOTE]True $tory, 3/4 years from now the norm will be 400 hhr and 700 for an hr LOL. Also hate how the ladies always stick together because they know there is something between their legs we want! And men can't stick together for shit because we throw each other under the bus for p sleeve! Jezuz.
[QUOTE=AsaMona22;5190651]True $tory, 3/4 years from now the norm will be 400 hhr and 700 for an hr LOL. Also hate how the ladies always stick together because they know there is something between their legs we want! And men can't stick together for shit because we throw each other under the bus for p sleeve! Jezuz.[/QUOTE]When someone new comes on the board they are contacted by other providers and told to raise their prices. It's a pussy cartel. Plus you also have idiot hobbyists telling them to raise prices thinking this will endear them to the provider. I hear Indian men do this quite often and believe it makes them look cool because they can spend money. I've been told this by three providers who I have seen for awhile.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5190599]It isn't like Seattle thirty years ago was anything to brag about.
In general escorts and indys were $150-$200 for uninspired covered sex or $150-$200 and an insane upsell for uninspired covered sex. AMPs were about $200 out (house + tip) for everything covered.
The best deals I found in those times was a plump redheaded girl in Kent with an amazing and highly functional mouth for $150 (uncovered) and an AMP in Bellevue (and later Kirkland) where the young korean hotties would provide more-or-less GFE service for about $200 or $220. An added bonus is that I sometimes meet one of those girls who is now working a north end MP thirty years later.[/QUOTE]Hell man even 6 to 8 years ago. It all started to change when backpage went away. They basically unionized on the board.
[QUOTE=ChopperDan113;5189819]The only reason the average $$ is so high now is because dumb F at &% guys are paying for it and on top of that the girls are putting out less. A few girls on TNA have VIP, I ask one of them what was ok in her VIP and she said it was just CFS and that is it. Its all CBJ on TNA, what happen to BBBJ. I will tell you what happen, guys are paying for CBJ and it sucks. Texas girls are all BBBJ and everything else. CBJ is unheard of there.[/QUOTE]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.
[QUOTE=XCrossTownX;5190051]I moved here from Dallas and every time I go back the hobby treats me better.[/QUOTE]I do well in Phoenix too. I have two people I see there. I pay three hundred total and will see them every day I'm there, which three or four days. So I can fill two women a day for no more than 600 in total. Sometimes it works out to 80/ visit.
[QUOTE=SeattleCasual;5189966]On that note, does anyone have any recommendations for the best places to go on vacation for bb?[/QUOTE]Honolulu. Best of the best there and all for reasonable prices.
[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190727]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.[/QUOTE]My point if guys did not pay these high rates for sub par service then the rates would not be so high like they are. The guys paying top dollar for CBJ, no daty are ruining it for everyone else. I will not pay 200 for CBJ and will not even see anyone who does CBJ, what is the point. I do less ponning now because of this. Even the guys with money, so what, why pay for NON GFE, a guy can stay home and get that from his wife. I have money and will not pay for NON GFE. I did a few negative reviews and was censored on TNA. TNA sucks.
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Danii BBBJ and bbfscip. She is a bit heavier than pictures.
[QUOTE=LeftEye;5190605]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.
If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.
I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.[/QUOTE]Ladies actually increased prices during the COVID thing because there are so many guys willing to pay higher prices for a piece of ass that they could easily get for hundreds less if they'd stop thinking with the little head.
[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190727]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.[/QUOTE]+1 - I set strict lines for myself that I do not cross. I do not see non GFE (CBJ, No DATY etc.) women. I just will not see them. And haven't for ages. It is who I am and I am extremely comfortable in my own skin. Not going to change anytime soon. On SA I have actually turned down extremely hot women if they say want covered sex. So that goes even further than GFE. If everybody just had some discipline in how the approached this hobby it would make it a lot better for everyone. In every other service industry to pay the bare minimum to get the best possible service. But here for some reason. Good, smart people loose their heads.