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I need opinions about a baby. A married MILF, 30. We agreed to a monthly arrangement / allowance, and I blocked her profile on SA so she couldn't tell what I was up to on the rare occasions I'm on the site (not paid now). I get on in the middle of the night and I see another profile that is clearly her, w / some different profile 'facts' and expectations (substantial). I've seen her FB and IG before, I think she *is* married w / a kid. I've blocked the new profile.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3268272]I need opinions about a baby. A married MILF, 30. We agreed to a monthly arrangement / allowance, and I blocked her profile on SA so she couldn't tell what I was up to on the rare occasions I'm on the site (not paid now). I get on in the middle of the night and I see another profile that is clearly her, w / some different profile 'facts' and expectations (substantial). I've seen her FB and IG before, I think she *is* married w / a kid. I've blocked the new profile.[/QUOTE]What opions do you seek. She is a sb with multiple profiles. Not sure what your asking? Is she utr, was she supposed to be exclusive, should you see her because she is married. You have done set up an arrangement so go with it and determine yif ifr she is what your looking for.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3268272]I need opinions about a baby. A married MILF, 30. We agreed to a monthly arrangement / allowance, and I blocked her profile on SA so she couldn't tell what I was up to on the rare occasions I'm on the site (not paid now). I get on in the middle of the night and I see another profile that is clearly her, w / some different profile 'facts' and expectations (substantial). I've seen her FB and IG before, I think she *is* married w / a kid. I've blocked the new profile.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like she is still playing the field. Not a big deal in my eyes as most of us don't really expect our babies to be solely ours. Looks to me like she is looking for additional funds elsewhere.
I myself wouldn't be concerned about it. I doubt she is stalking you with a different account trying to see if you are doing the same.
[QUOTE=HighlandPark;3262545]It was suggested that I post the link to this fraudster's profile on SA following my last post.
I have attached the two photos on her Richmond SA profile but I do not know how to actually post the link.
Her name: Melissaroman 222.
I don't think she is an escort but I have nothing to prove one way or another.
Said she was a VCU student.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up, I saw her a couple months ago, she was legit.
[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3224315]I will tell my brothers these points:
1. Most if not all SA girls lie.
2. Most are addicted to SA and always want a better, richer guy.
3. Most are seeing normal guys and multiple sugar daddies.
4. If they say they love you, it's just to keep you around.
5. If your "spidey senses" see her act strange, most of the time they are right.
6. Many sbs have mental problems and take some form of meds (legal and illegal).
7. Will try to push you and control you as much as they can.
8. Will go crazy if you end your situation with them.
Things to remember:
1. Never love them.
2. Never give important info out.
3. Always have a backup if you feel necessary.
4. Always be willing to walk away.
5. Be prepared to disappear.[/QUOTE]Fellow Journeymen,
I wanted to briefly share some best practices. Enzo provided some solid advice below that I wanted to expand on. In fact I picked up most of my tips on here as I've been a longtime lurker (recent member) of the board. Some of the others I had to learn the hard way. I originally posted this in the Tidewater section but revised it based off of some additional feedback I received from members out there.
Rule 1 (Most Important): Don't shit where you live or where you work. In my SA account I use the next town over as my locationand I never meet clost to home.
Rule 2: use cash and gift cards only. I try to get cards for sugar baby instead of burning through cash. I get free giftcards through my rewards credit card. My SO is very observentof our joint account, Iv'e been sloppy in the past and have been caught so now it takes a while to accrue cash.
Rule 3: Always have a credible alibi or reason. If you just dissapear you'll be suspect. Try to maintainyou same patterns and schedule.
Rule 4: Never post a face shot or identifiable photo. When they ask, send them a picture through text of email when necessary and you feel comfortable.
Rule 5: Always use a burner phone and keep that phone out of your home. You can also use a burner app or google voice but my SO may occasionally use my phone and I don't know how'd I'd explain its presence. Many SDs prefer the app because you don't have the physical phone to conceal. User preference I suppose.
Rule 6: Always shower / rinse before coming back home (gym, work lockers etc.).
Rule 7: As SD said, create an alias. Burner email, phone, name, job, history, facebook. Keep it simple too. I personallydont use any facebook but that's just me. I like to keep it simple.
Rule 8: Get a snapchat app because it deletes your pictures and ensures that there's arent fake. I keep it on ny burner phone.
Please let me know if anything was missed. I'd love to hear what other great techniques are being used. Safe Journeys,
Vinny.
You guys getting your girls anything? My main SB doesn't get sugar regularly, more like normal dating stuff. We're on the outs because of a debt she has and I've made no attempt to offer help. I'm considering a cash gift to help her out a little bit. No fancy dinner or flowers. My newer SB, may get the chocolates, balloons, etc.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;3269814]You guys getting your girls anything? My main SB doesn't get sugar regularly, more like normal dating stuff. We're on the outs because of a debt she has and I've made no attempt to offer help. I'm considering a cash gift to help her out a little bit. No fancy dinner or flowers. My newer SB, may get the chocolates, balloons, etc.[/QUOTE]I give 1 1/2 PPM as her gift. Your main SB is not an SB -she is apparently an ex FwB, What is her incentive to hang out with you if you don't give an allowance? If you consider her an SB then Sugar is what we do. Give her some money to help with her debt.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;3269898]I give 1 1/2 PPM as her gift. Your main SB is not an SB -she is apparently an ex FwB, What is her incentive to hang out with you if you don't give an allowance? If you consider her an SB then Sugar is what we do. Give her some money to help with her debt.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I'd go that far, also b / c I am in the 'whatever you want' zone for sugar w / my regular SB, but definitely a card w / a gift card and cash.
[QUOTE=HighlandPark;3265883]Beware, she has now changed her profile name on Richmond SA but its the same scam.
She's now calling herself Issa_miss.
You have been warned![/QUOTE]She is a know girl that I've seen a few times. She does dates when she needs money. More of UTR escort than SB.
Doing flowers tomorrow for her at work.
We are getting a hotel, dinner and a movie the following day. I will probably get her something to unwrap at the hotel. All she really wants is the hotel and playtime plus her nominal arrangement. Giving her a little will mean a lot on the long run.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;3269814]You guys getting your girls anything? My main SB doesn't get sugar regularly, more like normal dating stuff. We're on the outs because of a debt she has and I've made no attempt to offer help. I'm considering a cash gift to help her out a little bit. No fancy dinner or flowers. My newer SB, may get the chocolates, balloons, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VChase;3269584]Fellow Journeymen,
I wanted to briefly share some best practices. Enzo provided some solid advice below that I wanted to expand on. In fact I picked up most of my tips on here as I've been a longtime lurker (recent member) of the board. Some of the others I had to learn the hard way. I originally posted this in the Tidewater section but revised it based off of some additional feedback I received from members out there.
Rule 1 (Most Important): Don't shit where you live or where you work. In my SA account I use the next town over as my locationand I never meet clost to home.
Rule 2: use cash and gift cards only. I try to get cards for sugar baby instead of burning through cash. I get free giftcards through my rewards credit card. My SO is very observentof our joint account, Iv'e been sloppy in the past and have been caught so now it takes a while to accrue cash.
Rule 3: Always have a credible alibi or reason. If you just dissapear you'll be suspect. Try to maintainyou same patterns and schedule.
Rule 4: Never post a face shot or identifiable photo. When they ask, send them a picture through text of email when necessary and you feel comfortable.
Rule 5: Always use a burner phone and keep that phone out of your home. You can also use a burner app or google voice but my SO may occasionally use my phone and I don't know how'd I'd explain its presence. Many SDs prefer the app because you don't have the physical phone to conceal. User preference I suppose.
Rule 6: Always shower / rinse before coming back home (gym, work lockers etc.).
Rule 7: As SD said, create an alias. Burner email, phone, name, job, history, facebook. Keep it simple too. I personallydont use any facebook but that's just me. I like to keep it simple.
Rule 8: Get a snapchat app because it deletes your pictures and ensures that there's arent fake. I keep it on ny burner phone.
Please let me know if anything was missed. I'd love to hear what other great techniques are being used. Safe Journeys,
Vinny.[/QUOTE]Benefit of an App. I always remove the app when not in use. Also, upon arrival I also delete it before knocking on the door. Also, with the app, depending which one you use, you can also change the number frequently if needed. And most apps are free.
Vinny,
Thank you for your list my brother. It's important rules to follow and know. Some good stuff.
Enzo.
[QUOTE=VChase;3269584]Fellow Journeymen,
I wanted to briefly share some best practices. Enzo provided some solid advice below that I wanted to expand on. In fact I picked up most of my tips on here as I've been a longtime lurker (recent member) of the board. Some of the others I had to learn the hard way. I originally posted this in the Tidewater section but revised it based off of some additional feedback I received from members out there.
Rule 1 (Most Important): Don't shit where you live or where you work. In my SA account I use the next town over as my locationand I never meet clost to home.
Rule 2: use cash and gift cards only. I try to get cards for sugar baby instead of burning through cash. I get free giftcards through my rewards credit card. My SO is very observentof our joint account, Iv'e been sloppy in the past and have been caught so now it takes a while to accrue cash.
Rule 3: Always have a credible alibi or reason. If you just dissapear you'll be suspect. Try to maintainyou same patterns and schedule.
Rule 4: Never post a face shot or identifiable photo. When they ask, send them a picture through text of email when necessary and you feel comfortable.
Rule 5: Always use a burner phone and keep that phone out of your home. You can also use a burner app or google voice but my SO may occasionally use my phone and I don't know how'd I'd explain its presence. Many SDs prefer the app because you don't have the physical phone to conceal. User preference I suppose.
Rule 6: Always shower / rinse before coming back home (gym, work lockers etc.).
Rule 7: As SD said, create an alias. Burner email, phone, name, job, history, facebook. Keep it simple too. I personallydont use any facebook but that's just me. I like to keep it simple.
Rule 8: Get a snapchat app because it deletes your pictures and ensures that there's arent fake. I keep it on ny burner phone.
Please let me know if anything was missed. I'd love to hear what other great techniques are being used. Safe Journeys,
Vinny.[/QUOTE]
Main sugar baby is more like a gf. She is getting roses, candy, and bear delivered. Another sb I have been chasing. I don't follow my list-big liar and crazy-I am trying one last time, she is getting a bouquet of flowers delivered. Another sb gets nothing, she said some nasty, ruthless lies and is a cold hearted b*tch, she will get nothing, I probably won't send her a text, I am hoping she gets the flu.
Stay safe my brothers. Use common sense. Think with the big head ALWAYS.
Enzo.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;3269814]You guys getting your girls anything? My main SB doesn't get sugar regularly, more like normal dating stuff. We're on the outs because of a debt she has and I've made no attempt to offer help. I'm considering a cash gift to help her out a little bit. No fancy dinner or flowers. My newer SB, may get the chocolates, balloons, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VChase;3269584]
Rule 2: use cash and gift cards only. I try to get cards for sugar baby instead of burning through cash. [b]I get free giftcards through my rewards credit card.[/b] My SO is very observent of our joint account, Iv'e been sloppy in the past and have been caught so now it takes a while to accrue cash.
Rule 5: Always use a burner phone and keep that phone out of your home. You can also use a burner app or google voice but my SO may occasionally use my phone and I don't know how'd I'd explain its presence. Many SDs prefer the app because you don't have the physical phone to conceal. User preference I suppose.
Rule 7: As SD said, create an alias. Burner email, phone, name, job, history, facebook. Keep it simple too. I personallydont use any facebook but that's just me. I like to keep it simple.
Rule 8: Get a snapchat app because it deletes your pictures and ensures that there's arent fake. I keep it on ny burner phone.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the cogent "rules" perhaps these will get amended to the tips & tricks thread?
Rule 2 - Question, how does using gift cards tied to one's real name and real credit card maintain one's privacy with the SB? Is it possible for SB to call as your SO and get info on you? Or for a PI to track you down from that?
Rule 5 - Should not be "user preference. " Get and use burner with GV! Unless one is anally retentive, they are going to mess up and when you do SO can find your activity and "yer burnt!" Had occasions where cell tower dropped calls, and hitting redial called on real number. Then baby calls on real number sometime. Oh, I know! Hubris! It'll never happen to me! LOL Happened to a dude I know & he's huddled with lawyers right now. Better safe than sorry.
Rule 7 - FB account is a nice touch if one can do it. One can search for SBs anonymously without the search history being seen by SB. Also gives confidence to SBs who look for such.
Rule 8 - don't use, but if pics truly do disappear then this IS the way to share photos with POTs & SBs.
The only other thing I'd add, that seems "obvious" but is what catches a bunch of dudes- NEVER pay up front! Never wire, send or advance money to a girl for any reason. If she wants the sugar before play she is a pro or an UTR girl, not really a SB. Don't buy any sob story, no cash up front, no sugar until the panties hit the floor and then only after the poetry has been read or play finished! Would not need rip off threads on USA if dudes followed this rule.
All-in-all good points, stay safe!
[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3270767]Main sugar baby is more like a gf. She is getting roses, candy, and bear delivered. Another sb I have been chasing. I don't follow my list-big liar and crazy-I am trying one last time, she is getting a bouquet of flowers delivered. Another sb gets nothing, she said some nasty, ruthless lies and is a cold hearted b*tch, she will get nothing, I probably won't send her a text, I am hoping she gets the flu.
Stay safe my brothers. Use common sense. Think with the big head ALWAYS.
Enzo.[/QUOTE]Had fancy dinner with main SO / SB last night. Effortless conversation, no nervousness. Laughed and cracked mean jokes to each other all night. We joked that the night before Valentines is for the friends with benefits, FB side girl. I didn't make definite plans with her for today, but we're hanging out a bit this morning and will have dinner and Netflix tonight. If she changes or mind or anything other than US and an overnight I'm letting her walk or just ending it.
New SB who lives close to me. Had coffee / lunch date and dropped off some flowers and candy from local grocery store. Cost maybe $40. Sure she'd have sex cause of the newness; just not that into her. 5'2", curvy. Likes to please, but she doesn't swallow. She's kind of boring, not very fun. She's a backup plan.
Both girls responded with a morning valentines text with something like "awww, so cute", etc. I realized none of them are getting a bigger effort out of me. No expensive gifts tonight. Whoever has the most interest will continue to get my attention. Anything other than an invite to see lingerie and nudity will require me to reassess if I need them in my life. My bet is that the main SB while devote some quality time and FC. If not, I'm fading out and looking for a new SB. 2/14 is about cutting loses. LOL.