[QUOTE=BigMack;4675226]At that scale got to be much more than a massage probably for that she will throw in kiss on the cheek and tell you what a "man" you are. Oh my oh my what do they think of now days.[/QUOTE]I texted with her; got the same rate quotes. Flat out asked if I could expect an HE. She said no, which doesn't mean there wouldn't be, but there you go.