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[QUOTE=Nick6789;6790623]Don't want to start anything political now, but it was Trump who took down backpage, which made everything a little harder.[/QUOTE]I think if there was ever a time both sides can reconcile it is now. I have friends who are on both sides and they both say the same thing, "Man does it suck its a battle between Mr "late 70's and mr "Don't look I am 80+" .
[QUOTE=Nick6789;6790623]Don't want to start anything political now, but it was Trump who took down backpage, which made everything a little harder.[/QUOTE]Isn't there a sting in Detroit almost everyday to bust guys picking up SW's? What political party does Duggan belong to? It's really not harder because backpage got shutdown, I think it's more difficult because most of these chicks want more than they're worth and either have a ton of rules or they try and rip guys off. Papa Be.
[QUOTE=PapaBoner78;6790751]Isn't there a sting in Detroit almost everyday to bust guys picking up SW's? What political party does Duggan belong to? It's really not harder because backpage got shutdown, I think it's more difficult because most of these chicks want more than they're worth and either have a ton of rules or they try and rip guys off. Papa Be.[/QUOTE]Duggan is about as centrist as you will find on the politics spectrum. All politicians want is to win and obtain money and power. That being said a white mayor has no chance in the city of Detroit without the ministers backing them. Churches, schools, families, etc live in prostitution areas and probably don't want it around so I don't blame the ministers and residents really. When they raided the strip clubs they took it to another level as no child is going to see you getting your knob polished in VIP.
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;6790791]Duggan is about as centrist as you will find on the politics spectrum. All politicians want is to win and obtain money and power. That being said a white mayor has no chance in the city of Detroit without the ministers backing them. Churches, schools, families, etc live in prostitution areas and probably don't want it around so I don't blame the ministers and residents really. When they raided the strip clubs they took it to another level as no child is going to see you getting your knob polished in VIP.[/QUOTE]I agree in many ways that it is about the center. LOL so we should, the police know where the drug houses are. How many of them have they been bringing down and how many of them are they leaving alone for the time being? Me personally. , if someone is being forced to work or dancer or be pimped out, I have no problem with that person being busted.
Wayne county can take a lesson from Washington county and what two consenting adults do is their business and nobody else's. I am.
The question is, are they doing this because it's a cash cow? They put an awful lot of resources into the stings how many cusps, tow trucks, and what they pay the decoys if they use sea ice's?
If the county in the city, I'm making money on this, political affiliation be damned. They will continue to do this as long as it is it's profitable.
We already know it doesn't really clean up the streets.
My. 02.
Be vigilant everyone you never know where the next black SUV is.
[QUOTE=BlackEscape;6789823]It sure is slim pickings out there right now. It used to be, 10 years ago, that you could just pull up BP and find someone, drive over, and get quality service within the hour. Now there's so many girls running scams, who are flat-out unfriendly when you message them, look absolutely hideous, or operating out of areas notorious for pulling guys over after a date or where you are guaranteed to have a hard time. The average working girl on stg, alligator, sumo, or any of the other weird sites is just not worth the headache. Then if you go mid-to-high-end on a site like tryst, you have to make the date, then she needs to be driven all over, and you end up waiting like an hour in a parking lot someplace sketchy. Then you have to do some weird stuff to prove you're "real" after you've driven out to wherever they are. Just the whole way that things are handled top to bottom make it utterly impossible to set something up to move smoothly. I just want to text a girl and see if she's available, arrange a date, drive out to a decent enough location, then move on with my day. The cops and the wokies have really found fertile common ground to screw with the average dude with "human trafficking."
Apologies for the rant, its just frustrating.[/QUOTE]Seems to me that we all miss the days of the old boards, EV, AES, Scorps, etc. , sure there was drama at times, but the ease of setting up a date made it worth it.
[QUOTE=BlackEscape;6789823]It sure is slim pickings out there right now. It used to be, 10 years ago, that you could just pull up BP and find someone, drive over, and get quality service within the hour. Now there's so many girls running scams, who are flat-out unfriendly when you message them, look absolutely hideous, or operating out of areas notorious for pulling guys over after a date or where you are guaranteed to have a hard time. The average working girl on stg, alligator, sumo, or any of the other weird sites is just not worth the headache. Then if you go mid-to-high-end on a site like tryst, you have to make the date, then she needs to be driven all over, and you end up waiting like an hour in a parking lot someplace sketchy. Then you have to do some weird stuff to prove you're "real" after you've driven out to wherever they are. Just the whole way that things are handled top to bottom make it utterly impossible to set something up to move smoothly. I just want to text a girl and see if she's available, arrange a date, drive out to a decent enough location, then move on with my day. The cops and the wokies have really found fertile common ground to screw with the average dude with "human trafficking."
Apologies for the rant, its just frustrating.[/QUOTE]Yep it sucks and the chicks go bad so fast that when someone finds a good one they don't post a review.
[QUOTE=Nick6789;6790623]Don't want to start anything political now, but it was Trump who took down backpage, which made everything a little harder.[/QUOTE]100% agree. Golden era for mongering was before 2017. Just remember when it's a Right wing, it's always about human trafficking and pizzagate. Although it's actually consensual.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6793149]100% agree. Golden era for mongering was before 2017. Just remember when it's a Right wing, it's always about human trafficking and pizzagate. Although it's actually consensual.[/QUOTE]What is pizzagate?
[QUOTE=Clocking123;6794541]What is pizzagate?[/QUOTE][URL]https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-pizzagate-conspiracy-elon-musk-abc-657657139374[/URL]
MichWinter15,
You have made 28 posts in 8 years, you also just became a senior member just a few posts ago. Stop with all your senior member high and mighty BS.
[QUOTE=Clocking123;6890237]MichWinter15,
You have made 28 posts in 8 years, you also just became a senior member just a few posts ago. Stop with all your senior member high and mighty BS.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. As far as I can tell the only difference between senior and regular is your posts go live.
[QUOTE=BlackEscape;6789823]It sure is slim pickings out there right now. It used to be, 10 years ago, that you could just pull up BP and find someone, drive over, and get quality service within the hour. Now there's so many girls running scams, who are flat-out unfriendly when you message them, look absolutely hideous, or operating out of areas notorious for pulling guys over after a date or where you are guaranteed to have a hard time. The average working girl on stg, alligator, sumo, or any of the other weird sites is just not worth the headache. Then if you go mid-to-high-end on a site like tryst, you have to make the date, then she needs to be driven all over, and you end up waiting like an hour in a parking lot someplace sketchy. Then you have to do some weird stuff to prove you're "real" after you've driven out to wherever they are. Just the whole way that things are handled top to bottom make it utterly impossible to set something up to move smoothly. I just want to text a girl and see if she's available, arrange a date, drive out to a decent enough location, then move on with my day. The cops and the wokies have really found fertile common ground to screw with the average dude with "human trafficking."
Apologies for the rant, its just frustrating.[/QUOTE]I know, it sucks. Seems like everything sucks lately. I'm throwing a rock at the USA and leaving. There is nothing here anymore for me. Every day that goes by my pension buy's less and less. I don't just mean SW, I include the basics of living. Just look at the prices of car insurance, utilities and even food. God give the US a queen and save her. I'm moving overseas where the SW's are accepted and respected. A place where the 900 an hour US SW is priced at 160 to 200 an hour. A place where the massage parlor is 80 to 100 and ultra hygienic A place where you don't have to sneak around and worry about being put in jail. Good bye sketchy drugged SW's and your associated pimps that try to rob and cheat us. Good bye 1000 a month Blue Cross. You may say the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence but at least its actually greener in the right spots.
[QUOTE=Questar999;6895901]I know, it sucks. Seems like everything sucks lately. I'm throwing a rock at the USA and leaving. There is nothing here anymore for me. Every day that goes by my pension buy's less and less. I don't just mean SW, I include the basics of living. Just look at the prices of car insurance, utilities and even food. God give the US a queen and save her. I'm moving overseas where the SW's are accepted and respected. A place where the 900 an hour US SW is priced at 160 to 200 an hour. A place where the massage parlor is 80 to 100 and ultra hygienic A place where you don't have to sneak around and worry about being put in jail. Good bye sketchy drugged SW's and your associated pimps that try to rob and cheat us. Good bye 1000 a month Blue Cross. You may say the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence but at least its actually greener in the right spots.[/QUOTE]Moving to Amsterdam?
Was Chewbacca around pumping hoes? I wouldn't mess with that pimp. Being serious though you are not going to get an Amsterdam anytime soon from either party. One thing about Detroit is that they are generating revenue and the ministers were on a crusade about strip clubs. Duggans being a white mayor needs the ministers in order to win elections.
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;6896746]Was Chewbacca around pumping hoes? I wouldn't mess with that pimp. Being serious though you are not going to get an Amsterdam anytime soon from either party. One thing about Detroit is that they are generating revenue and the ministers were on a crusade about strip clubs. Duggans being a white mayor needs the ministers in order to win elections.[/QUOTE]We needs someone who will be against discrimination against SW.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6896751]We needs someone who will be against discrimination against SW.[/QUOTE]It's just going to take the right case and the right lawyer. The MI Constituion says everyone now has "the right to make and effectuate decisions about all matters relating to pregnancy". And the exercise of your sexual organs certainly is a matter related to pregnancy.
No if's, ands, or buts about it.
[QUOTE=XirCom;6896572]Moving to Amsterdam?[/QUOTE]Man it is so much more affordable sex wise. I went there last summer. I saw 3 different red light girls at 60 a piece for a qv. Each was attractive, at least as good as type as a typical dancer at SC. Then for 200 I had an hour at a proper brothel, got my pick of girls. My grand total was about what the brothel girl would have charged here for an hour. It still blows my mind thinking about it.
[QUOTE=DrCumReturns;6897230]Man it is so much more affordable sex wise. I went there last summer. I saw 3 different red light girls at 60 a piece for a qv. Each was attractive, at least as good as type as a typical dancer at SC. Then for 200 I had an hour at a proper brothel, got my pick of girls. My grand total was about what the brothel girl would have charged here for an hour. It still blows my mind thinking about it.[/QUOTE]I can also attest to this affordability example. And if you travel to Czech Republic, the pickings are sexier and cheaper. Prague brothels and some "park" that I went there were awesome experiences.
[QUOTE=Questar999;6895901]I know, it sucks. Seems like everything sucks lately. I'm throwing a rock at the USA and leaving. There is nothing here anymore for me. Every day that goes by my pension buy's less and less. I don't just mean SW, I include the basics of living. Just look at the prices of car insurance, utilities and even food. God give the US a queen and save her. I'm moving overseas where the SW's are accepted and respected. A place where the 900 an hour US SW is priced at 160 to 200 an hour. A place where the massage parlor is 80 to 100 and ultra hygienic A place where you don't have to sneak around and worry about being put in jail. Good bye sketchy drugged SW's and your associated pimps that try to rob and cheat us. Good bye 1000 a month Blue Cross. You may say the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence but at least its actually greener in the right spots.[/QUOTE]Where can you move overseas and get cheaper health insurance? Don't you need to be a citizen to qualify for their health care?
And where are you talking about for cheaper SW?
[QUOTE=MIGuy69;6899439]Where can you move overseas and get cheaper health insurance? Don't you need to be a citizen to qualify for their health care?
And where are you talking about for cheaper SW?[/QUOTE]Lot's of YouTube videos out there about being an expat. I would like Panama. It costs like $150/ month for health insurance and they use US dollars there. Costa Rica has good health care too.
[QUOTE=Matchbook85;6993879]Provider Ad: [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/174314911[/URL].
Set up a date at her in incall in Taylor today. Upon arrival she pretended to urgently need the donation in order to renew the room and avoid getting kicked out. I sent it to her over cash app and she then left the room to supposedly go to the front desk and pay. Then she came back claiming to have lost $80 of the $120 I had just sent her -- due to a cash app bill balance she hadn't been aware of -- and pulled on my heartstrings enough to get me to send her another $45 to spare her being tossed out in the street. She then left again and later returned saying she was still a little short of the amount needed for the room. Once again I sent her more a little more money. Then she left and returned again claiming that she accidentally paid for the wrong night and needed another $11 to make up the difference in transferring the reservation payment to the current date. Once again, I gave in and sent it to her. Then she left the room again and texted me stating that her boyfriend (who supposedly knows nothing of her business) had suddenly shown up at the motel, necessitating that I immediately run out the back to avoid getting hurt. I then walked out of the room and stood in the stairway down the hall to see if any guy came by, whereupon a very tall guy came to the room making a noisy display of himself. Over later text after I left she promised to make it up at a later time in the evening. Then she proceeded to block my number once that time rolled around.[/QUOTE]This has to be a fake review, right? You sent her 4 different amounts? Going back through your "reviews", this isn't even the first time you have been scammed on sending a deposit. Thank you for letting us know this girl is like this, but come on man, shame on you for continuing to give a deposit. And those excuses, OMG. Can I just borrow some money from you? Like I have a few girls I can get you in contact with that are cheap. But since you are just giving money away, I'll take some too.
[QUOTE=BobbieBoucher;6899482]Lot's of YouTube videos out there about being an expat. I would like Panama. It costs like $150/ month for health insurance and they use US dollars there. Costa Rica has good health care too.[/QUOTE]$150/ month for health insurance is really low. What kind of insurance is that? HOM? PPO? Etc. ? Do they have good doctors and hospitals in Panama?
[QUOTE=BobbieBoucher;6899482]Lot's of YouTube videos out there about being an expat. I would like Panama. It costs like $150/ month for health insurance and they use US dollars there. Costa Rica has good health care too.[/QUOTE]If my kids and grandkids weren't here, I would move out of the country in the blink of an eye.
[QUOTE=MIGuy69;7043187]$150/ month for health insurance is really low. What kind of insurance is that? HOM? PPO? Etc. ? Do they have good doctors and hospitals in Panama?[/QUOTE]Well, I had typed up a WAY TOO LONG answer to your question about international health insurance, that probably would have caused someone to tear into me (this is the fight forum after all). I used to be a long time subscriber to "International Living", and "Live and Invest Overseas", and this link will be better than my ramblings.
[URL]https://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/health-care/guide-to-health-insurance-options-abroad/[/URL] You may need to click the "x" to close the email signup.
Recommended by Live and Invest Overseas. [URL]https://insurancefortrips.com/get-started/international-health-insurance/[/URL].
You asked if there are good doctors and hospitals in Panama. Punta Pacifica (affiliated with Johns Hopkins) in Panama City, but I wouldn't want to live in Panama City. My choice would be Boquete (an American area), but I have no clue about doctors / hospitals there.
You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.
[QUOTE=PoundEmGood;7060013]You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.[/QUOTE]Dude are you kidding, you know you have something, are in the raw dog room asking if there's anyone would would see you with something. I doubt any of us are going BBFS knowing a lady has something, let alone sharing info knowing you have something.
It doesn't sound like anything super bad, but still a risk for us all. Wrap it and play safe please.
Side note if you pass the big one from the 80's knowingly you will be prosecuted, I don't see this much different.
[QUOTE=HarryDude;7061424]Dude are you kidding, you know you have something, are in the raw dog room asking if there's anyone would would see you with something. I doubt any of us are going BBFS knowing a lady has something, let alone sharing info knowing you have something.
It doesn't sound like anything super bad, but still a risk for us all. Wrap it and play safe please.
Side note if you pass the big one from the 80's knowingly you will be prosecuted, I don't see this much different.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls that do BBFS have one or more of the following: gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomonas. They may or may not be symptomatic. The drugs they do often mask it so they are unaware, but the discharge is a big clue.
Also, probably everyone involved in the hobby has some herpes exposure. Its just so widespread. Good thing is some of those are treatable by antibiotics. Just accept if you do BBFS, it's Russian roulette and you may need to go to the clinic for a shot and script of pills every once in awhile.
[QUOTE=PoundEmGood;7060013]You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.[/QUOTE]Rather than worrying about if a woman will see you, perhaps you may want to see a doctor first to see what you have!. Don't risk your health, ours or hers if you have something.
[QUOTE=PoundEmGood;7060013]You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.[/QUOTE]How about posting a list of every provider you've been with since before you got your bumps so the rest of us know who to avoid?
[QUOTE=PoundEmGood;7060013]You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.[/QUOTE]You need to have your balls cut off!
[QUOTE=Monger93;7061874]Most of the girls that do BBFS have one or more of the following: gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomonas. They may or may not be symptomatic. The drugs they do often mask it so they are unaware, but the discharge is a big clue.
Also, probably everyone involved in the hobby has some herpes exposure. Its just so widespread. Good thing is some of those are treatable by antibiotics. Just accept if you do BBFS, it's Russian roulette and you may need to go to the clinic for a shot and script of pills every once in awhile.[/QUOTE]Anyone who is a regular raw dogger is likely to be carrying Human Papillovirus as well. Men have no symptoms.
[QUOTE=WillyJones;7066579]How about posting a list of every provider you've been with since before you got your bumps so the rest of us know who to avoid?[/QUOTE]Every provider listed here I've seen. My older username is one of the first people to post on this forum. I could tell you the exact woman who I saw before I got the bumps (not the big one, I was tested already and already on antibiotics.)
[QUOTE=PoundEmGood;7060013]You think any of these girls would see someone with some bumps down below? I got burned by one, but I still want to see one.[/QUOTE]That's a symptom of HSV2. NO ONE in their right mind is knowingly seeing you; condoms are not guaranteed to prevent the spread of HSV2.
Most HPV strains are cleared by your immune system in 3-10 months, assuming you're healthy. A couple of strains give women cervical cancer and some give everyone genital warts.
[QUOTE=NeilBeil;7066623]Anyone who is a regular raw dogger is likely to be carrying Human Papillovirus as well. Men have no symptoms.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know the name of the brunette woman riding cowgirl in the Adult Friend Finder ad on this site? Thanks!
I see it here and on other area boards. Mongers on here complaining that she doesn't take her time, won't kiss, won't do this or that. Seriously? Y'all trying to make love to these hoes. And no, they don't enjoy you or being with you. NO MATTER HOW GOOD OF ACTORS THEY ARE! It's their hustle, period. Y'all need to chill out with these bad reports because the trick won't make love to you for $100. GTFOH with that.
[QUOTE=MageXO;7122656]The conservatives won, what did you expect?[/QUOTE]It's more complicated than that. What does everyone with a budget have to do in the final month of the calendar year. That's right. Spend it or lose it. All these LE agencies with unspent funds are going to be busy this month spending the remainder of their annual budget so it doesn't get slashed next year with all the spending cuts being talked about in DC.
[QUOTE=RamButt;7123093]Just an FYI, a burner phone can still be traced. Every place that sells burner phones have security cameras and they know exactly when a phone is sold and who it is sold to whether it's from Target or 7-11. Once a phone is sold and the serial number on that phone is recorded and registered that's all the cops need to figure out who owns that phone.[/QUOTE]It all depends on how pissed dana and the democrats are after losing the elections to republicans. I'd say for them to spend that kind of money and time to get a few mongers is quite a waste and not worth it!
[QUOTE=MageXO;7122656]The conservatives won, what did you expect?[/QUOTE]It's still mind-boggling to me that the majority of providers / mongers I interact with. Support the party whose policies include banning porn / sex-work.
A massage provider recently spent ten minutes talking about how awesome Candace Owens is. I'm like girl please google her views / beliefs about you.
-ODB.
[QUOTE=MageXO;7122656]The conservatives won, what did you expect?[/QUOTE]Bootlicks. Ban porn ban sex work. Everything is about HT now even thought it's consenting Adults. Very Sad. I can see everything going down and getting Worse from this point forward.