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I note here in SoCal that I run into quite a few women who are Russian / Ukrainian, or European of some flavor. Mostly the older ones, 30's. I am guessing the taboo of arrangements aren't so significant in their cultures. I have interacted w / 4 Russians, FC w / 3. They have a reputation for being kinda mercenary / cold, and I see that attitude in some.

There is one you see all the time on SA, a model. She is stunning, and I M&G w / her. At the end, she asked if I wanted to FC at 800 per, and she would host. I had no interest as we had no chemistry.

Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.

Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.

Another mail order bride was divorced and working locally, hosted at her place. I'd say it was more like the escort experience than a GF experience. Looks good on the site, much less so in person.

I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4064714]I do not share girls phone numbers. Although sometimes I wil post a "seeking" profile link in this thread. In the SB world you are basically on your own. Other threads happily share info usually to senior members, and more often to ones that share back or post a lot.[/QUOTE]I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?

Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?

[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;4066918]I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?

Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?[/QUOTE]I am not really "seeing" anyone these days. Just my GF and my "not so new little girl". I am always looking, but normally I just do a lot of one or two night stands until I find the next "it girl".

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4066827]I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.[/QUOTE]HG.

I thought you were a BBFS guy, the beauty of SA girls!

GG.

I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.

Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.

Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.

Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4066827]I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.[/QUOTE]And I don't see no raincoats there. Even better.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4067671]I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.

Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.

Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.

Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?[/QUOTE]Go to safety and security and turn off mobile access that will turn off tracking.

But people will know you turn it off.

I had the same problem plus I got bored of the tesla so I got rid of it and got a 2018 M3.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4067671]I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.

Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.

Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.

Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?[/QUOTE]Any tech geeks on this thread?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4066025]
Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.

Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.
[/QUOTE]I'm in town for a week. I'll see if I can work a deal with these two.

[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;4066918]I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?

Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?[/QUOTE]I luv Latina girls. Which one are you talking about. I must have missed that post. Was she good?

My wife and I both drive tesla. Both cars have remote access with cool shits, but you can track location even when moving. Obviously bad for our hobby.

So I had to turn it off. She didn't object cause I showed articles about how hackers can get into car's system via remote access. She is kind of clueless about tech.

But the problem was my son who is into cars and he turned it on my wife's car without telling me. Luckily he didn't touch mine LOL.

When it comes to the service center, there is nothing you can do about it. As far as I know. They can access the car even when you have bad cell connection so if wife calls them saying she is worried about your well being and blah blah. You better have a good excuse.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4067797]Any tech geeks on this thread?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4065535]If you like the tall athletic type, it doesn't really get any better than this.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/370add69-afab-4440-86db-7876ebf2c99c[/URL][/QUOTE]Good God. That's hot. I'm jealous of those of you who have figured the SD thing out and have the money to spend on the membership, etc. If any of you are inspired to share any of your friends with me let me know! LOL.

[QUOTE=Robertmm;4062355]Yup, it does indeed take time and money to get to F / S with a girl from a hostess club. Sometimes you can make quite a bit of an investment with little return. That said, when it pays off (which more often than not it does) the return on the investment is well worth the time and money.

Only thing that comes close to the level of intimacy I've experienced from a hostess is finding an actual Sugar Baby on SA. Depending on the girl, I think hostess clubs could be cheaper than an SB but given the smaller number of clubs that may not be true anymore (less girls = higher prices). However if anonymity is important to you, hostess clubs are the way to go. Way too exposed on SA unless you invest in a burner phone, Prepaid credit card (for site membership which is way too high relative to 5/6 years ago- when I was doing SBs.), etc. Unless your stupid or don't care about anonymity, hostess clubs and extras are cash transactions so compromising your privacy shouldn't be as much of an issue.

For me, anonymity and a higher level of intimacy are what I want. Can't get the level of intimacy I want from a LMP or AMP and SA isn't anonymous enough for me which makes what's left of the hostess scene more attractive. Plus, as you mentioned, the thrill of the hunt is part of the fun too! Nothing beats the rush I get when a hostess who normally doesn't "date" gives in and the fun that starts when my investment pays off- how wet they get, the actual moans...

Still I spent way too much for a lot less than I wanted on my last trip to Fantasy so it may be time to dip back into SA and the sugar bowl. Could be time to brush up on burner phones, prepaid cards etc. LOL.[/QUOTE]I want to give SA a try and try my luck there. But anonymity is important to me.

How was your experience with sugar babies? Is it worth it?

Spent the entire morning looking at all the lovely women on the site. A number of POT but many seem to be upping the initial meet costs. Trying to find the young ones who don't know what to ask for. A few pros willing to meet for the minimum. Stringing some a long to see if there will be a reward. May try and focus on unique ones and spend a bit more. It certainly is a lot of work but it has always been rewarding in the long run.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4057011]I even offered her $1.5. No reply.[/QUOTE]She agreed to 2. 5 for a massage. Still too high but wow.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4066025]I note here in SoCal that I run into quite a few women who are Russian / Ukrainian, or European of some flavor. Mostly the older ones, 30's. I am guessing the taboo of arrangements aren't so significant in their cultures. I have interacted w / 4 Russians, FC w / 3. They have a reputation for being kinda mercenary / cold, and I see that attitude in some.

There is one you see all the time on SA, a model. She is stunning, and I M&G w / her. At the end, she asked if I wanted to FC at 800 per, and she would host. I had no interest as we had no chemistry.

Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.

Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.

Another mail order bride was divorced and working locally, hosted at her place. I'd say it was more like the escort experience than a GF experience. Looks good on the site, much less so in person.[/QUOTE]Would love to know the IE profile. Let me know and I can trade a few in OC / LBC. Mostly HEH, but some quality attempts there.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;4070268]She agreed to 2. 5 for a massage. Still too high but wow.[/QUOTE]Too much. $$.5 for a HJ, but with enough game it could be the full monty. 50/50 on that. I spend what I can afford. When I get rich I will spend more.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4061533]Planned my whole day around seeing my girl at 4 pm today. She flakes and then wants me to come get her at 11 tonite. These girls don't always get that some people have an 8-4 life M-F. Go to bed on time and get up early. And getting mad isn't the solution. But it still sucks.[/QUOTE]I always tell myself "If they were super reliable people they probably wouldn't need the site" LOL.

[QUOTE=MrlbFun;4070935]I always tell myself "If they were super reliable people they probably wouldn't need the site" LOL.[/QUOTE]For sure some are more reliable than others. But you definitely have to make allowances (no pun intended).

They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.

So I joked around with a girl I know about having a arrangement together, she said she could never do that no matter how rich the guy was. She respects herself too much. Fast forward two weeks later, we are hanging out and she asks me for 50 bucks to help complete her rent to move into a new place. End up in the fc that night and I gave her 40 bucks. The logic baffles me.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;4073634]They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.[/QUOTE]Abgs! Asian baby girls LOL, no luck here with them either since I started in 2014. White girls, latinas, and ebonys only. I've been close with several of them but they always seem to flake last minute or want redicilous allowances.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;4073634]They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.[/QUOTE]Pay more money. You're not going to get many Asians offering $ as Asians tend to command a higher allowance than AFs and Latinas. In general, you'd probably get a lower-end Asian for $$. Average Asians start at $$$ and the higher end ones are looking for $$ and up.

[QUOTE=Stolper;4073847]Pay more money. You're not going to get many Asians offering $ as Asians tend to command a higher allowance than AFs and Latinas. In general, you'd probably get a lower-end Asian for $$. Average Asians start at $$$ and the higher end ones are looking for $$ and up.[/QUOTE]I agree. The last one I had was $$$$$ per date and didn't even really do that. She was more the monthly allowance and pay her tuition type. I just caught her in a weird mood, she was feeling a little frisky and let me hit it for .8, one time and then politely declined my future request. (sometimes timing is everything). I am sure I wrote about it a couple months back. Had a 4 hour session. Just the luck of the irish.

[QUOTE=TheNoob;4069806]I want to give SA a try and try my luck there. But anonymity is important to me.

How was your experience with sugar babies? Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]My experience was pretty good- but as I mentioned anonymity is important to me and the risk is far too great for me.

I would join for 3 months at a time and the numbers of girls available is a bit overwhelming. It definitely takes work weeding out the true NP SB's from pros or UTR girls. In my experience the numbers of Pros outnumbers the true SB's by at least 5 to 1- but (once you figure the game out) it's not too hard sorting them out. Plenty of flakes, girls selling photos or wanting Skype "dates" and scammers. Thankfully there are so many girls to choose from that its no big deal passing on the ones that aren't working out.

I typically dated around 3 or 4 girls a month (which was 9 to 12 girls per 3 month membership). GF quality intimacy was a given and the average I spent was around 2 per date. I paid one girl 3.5 (talked her down from 5) - which is the most I've paid but sooooo worth it. I would usually connect with 50 or 60 girls during my 3 month membership, weed out the obvious fakes, scammers and pros then let my membership expire. It took a while to sort through the rest but eventually I narrowed it down to the girls I was interested in persuing. After that it took work to proceed and I would eventually date a few (way too expensive to date them all LOL).

Some girls are unrealistic by demanding 10.00(!) or more a month or over 1.00 per date. There are also those who won't commit to intimacy until she's dated you at least 3 or 4 times (at 3 or more per date) - then disappear or flake when she is expected to put out. I never fell for that because the scam is so obvious. There are also those who want money deposited in an online account or western union before the date- which is a recipe to get ripped off. If you get that vibe move on to the next girl.

My preference is Latinas aged 18 - 24 but I also dated white girls. A couple said absolutely no sex but I learned that they were cool with other stuff as long as there was no penetration. One 19 yr old white girl loved to 69 and, while I would have loved to fuck her, I was cool with her limits LOL Half the fun was the chase and getting a girl so sexually aroused that she moved up a level or 2.

The negatives are some girls want to know your real name, job, marital status, address etc; some girls want bank information or access to funds, social media accounts etc. None of that is cool with me.

There are plenty of college girls on there who want discretion as much as I do so it isn't too difficult to find a girl who contacts you minimally and doesn't mind you contacting her only when you want to see her- but even that can be risky. I dated the cutest Latina a couple of times. In her early 20's, tight body (yoga!) and pretty face- only to find out (in a roundabout way) that we work for the same organization. She's a true nonpro but hell if I'm going to throw my career away for a fling- I was so lucky that it never blew up in my face. Its been 4 or 5 years and she left the company a while back but I was pretty worried for a minute there.

The risk is just not worth it for me. A burner phone, email solely for SA action, prepaid CC's etc helps but its not full proof. Like I've mentioned, its been at least 5 years and it was a lot of fun with really good times fooling around with girls I could never score otherwise (being honest) but ultimately the risk is simply too great for me.

Booty Lovers?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cb44b834-b90d-467a-9a72-ee60b1ee5224[/URL]

Asking $$ for intimacy.

[QUOTE=Robertmm;4074429]GF quality intimacy was a given and the average I spent was around 2 per date. There are also those who won't commit to intimacy until she's dated you at least 3 or 4 times (at 3 or more per date) - then disappear or flake when she is expected to put out. I never fell for that because the scam is so obvious.

A couple said absolutely no sex but I learned that they were cool with other stuff as long as there was no penetration. Half the fun was the chase and getting a girl so sexually aroused that she moved up a level or 2.[/QUOTE]I shortened your message to the relevant sections. In total agreement here except my average is $ a date. But like you say the chase is half the fun and getting them to move up a level or two. If they don't, I just move on after the first and def after the second date.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4075051]Booty Lovers?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cb44b834-b90d-467a-9a72-ee60b1ee5224[/URL]

Asking $$ for intimacy.[/QUOTE]Fairly sure half her pics aren't hers. The body pics are from Alexandra Johns ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/alexxjohns[/URL]) but the face pics are a different person who looks similar but a little younger.

[QUOTE=Stolper;4076005]Fairly sure half her pics aren't hers. The body pics are from Alexandra Johns ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/alexxjohns[/URL]) but the face pics are a different person who looks similar but a little younger.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was texting her a a month or two back. She was sending me different body than face pics as well so it's pretty sketch. Either a scam or a pro utr.

Pretty young (19) white girl, says she just wants to civi date to get started. I guess anything is possible. Seems legit based on our convos.

[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;4076251]Yeah I was texting her a a month or two back. She was sending me different body than face pics as well so it's pretty sketch. Either a scam or a pro utr.[/QUOTE]And just like that, she's gone!

It kills me to know I already have her at $$. Now I have to get her to $.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4077100]It kills me to know I already have her at $$. Now I have to get her to $.[/QUOTE]Of course she never messaged back. So I had to soothe my hurt feelings with an average looking UTR.

I didn't have much going on today and got a call from a UTR that had been wanting to see me. So her good timing led to a quick but satisfying romp at the no-tel. I had her meet me right there and she drove alone. One thing about UTR's, they usually have decent skills, maybe not awesome, but decent (and sometimes they will blow you away). And she fell right into the decent category. Probably never see her again but you never know.

The thing about paying a $ a date is that even if you just have a B quality session you go away feeling good about it. And tonite was just like that. Easy peasy, no drama, on time and with a good finish.

Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4079797]Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.[/QUOTE]Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.

[QUOTE=OldSchool62;4080025]Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.[/QUOTE]Trust me... you can't afford her. She is GPS

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4079797]Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.[/QUOTE]HG. You are a god among men.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4079797]Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.[/QUOTE]Hope she is as fun as she is hot!

Tranny?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5094da78-b135-47c4-b39f-195acc26ee72[/URL]

[QUOTE=OldSchool62;4080025]Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.[/QUOTE]Think in terms of half a G to a G to get started.