General Reports

Giani is right, and if you put yourself out there like that, it is a carrot for LE to try to grab for. And even if they don't catch up to you, it could lead them to some later intel on someplace, something, or someone. This is why I never ever go to these parties/meetings.

Plus you have to understand that the LE will treat this and you as Pimpin and you as a PIMP. The penalties for this will be far worse than trickin itself. And of course they men caught in any situation as well as the women will fold over on you like a falling building.

They have kids and families to provide & protect for, and if giving you up, or rolling over on you will get them out of it or a lesser charge you will be "SCREWED. "

Even if the police drop most of the charges it will still make the newspapers and TV/Radio, and put you in the spotlight for years, and everyone involved.

LE loves those who think of themselves as bold, and will hold a "come get me carrot", in front of them. They will take the bait. They think they are far smarter than you.

And Ofter they are better at crime fighting, than you are at crime making. They do it more.

This is one of the reasons why I had to stop posting for a long while. I was too detailed, and leading LE to my best girls, and their movement. I was making it HARD on myself, and LE started asking about if these SW's knew me, and who I was. That was back when NO SW dared to ever snitch. It was very Dangerous for anyone to Snitch about Anyone. I am talking DANGEROUS, even for myself.

So take heed and understand what you are doing. Keep it very low key. Use PM's, and never do anything at you home/residence, and leave no trail to you.

Even some of the information I know for certain I PM to other Seniors, and they want to post it for me, so LE can never know exactly where that info is coming from, or which Senior most of it is coming from.

It is a game, and I am not Great at it, but I am always trying to be better than I was.

[QUOTE=Giani]Think seriously before you make posts about setting up parties with providers and multiple mongers. If you brag about it in an open forum like this, you are giving a valuable opening to LE. Take a look at what happened in Columbus. The temptation to brag about the activity provides avenues for LE to explore. The more participants, the more likely that "Loose Lips Sink Ships" and someone's boast will inadvertintely let culpitory info drop. While readers of the forum may find reports of group "meetings" titillating, ("Nothing more, and nothing implied. ") it is unclear that information provided is of real value except to LE because it documents which mongers are connected to each other.

While we feel a brotherhood with other mongers, and feel like we know them from multiple posts, these kind of parties rarely benefit more than one person, they can cause a world of hurt for others.

My suggestion: if you want to bring multiple mongers together, and TRY to get a provider there (are we surprised she was lost and late?) do it by PM. "Roosters who crow attract the fox. "

Giani[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WordUp]Giani is right, and if you put yourself out there like that, it is a carrot for LE to try to grab for. And even if they don't catch up to you, it could lead them to some later intel on someplace, something, or someone. This is why I never ever go to these parties/meetings.

Plus you have to understand that the LE will treat this and you as Pimpin and you as a PIMP. The penalties for this will be far worse than trickin itself. And of course they men caught in any situation as well as the women will fold over on you like a falling building.

They have kids and families to provide & protect for, and if giving you up, or rolling over on you will get them out of it or a lesser charge you will be "SCREWED. "

Even if the police drop most of the charges it will still make the newspapers and TV/Radio, and put you in the spotlight for years, and everyone involved.

LE loves those who think of themselves as bold, and will hold a "come get me carrot", in front of them. They will take the bait. They think they are far smarter than you.

And Ofter they are better at crime fighting, than you are at crime making. They do it more.

This is one of the reasons why I had to stop posting for a long while. I was too detailed, and leading LE to my best girls, and their movement. I was making it HARD on myself, and LE started asking about if these SW's knew me, and who I was. That was back when NO SW dared to ever snitch. It was very Dangerous for anyone to Snitch about Anyone. I am talking DANGEROUS, even for myself.

So take heed and understand what you are doing. Keep it very low key. Use PM's, and never do anything at you home/residence, and leave no trail to you.

Even some of the information I know for certain I PM to other Seniors, and they want to post it for me, so LE can never know exactly where that info is coming from, or which Senior most of it is coming from.

It is a game, and I am not Great at it, but I am always trying to be better than I was.[/QUOTE]

There is a very fine line that one has to avoid crossing with a meet n greet...

Rule 1) No business transacted at the party not even arranging an appointment for a week down the road.

Rule 2) If the lady is being paid to attend she does nothing beyond a dance like you would have in a very strict club

Rule 3) The ladies and the guys do not talk shop. You can talk about what is read in a public forum, but never discuss prior appointments.

Rule 4) Whenever possible stay in public places. It is very hard to prove something illegal was going on when multiple witnesses can say they saw a group of folks having dinner or drinks.

Rule 5) You never know when someone has been popped and is now playing for the other team, so keep the group small and trusted.

As one that has been to an evening with the "GUYS" I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth (If it is worth that much?). When ever I have attended it has always been drinks and/or dinner in a very public place. I.E. sports bar, average nice restaurant, hotel bar for happy hour etc. This is nothing that 10's of 1000's of people don't do every night.

If and when a lady shows up she is bought a couple of drinks or dinner nothing more intended or implied. As a matter of fact one invitee thought something totally different was on the menu. Upon this information coming to light a phone call was made prior to the dinner just to assure her of what the evening plans were truly consisting of and she was fine, showed up and had a great time. What red blooded American male allows a pretty lady to buy her own drinks and/or dinner when out for the evening regardless of her profession?

The meetings I have been to have never been a public paw and grope session as to invite public scrutiny or LEO suspicion, just the opposite. They have just been like minded people enjoying a relaxing evening in a non work environment. Not really much different than part of an office staff meeting after work. They may be competitive during the work day but enjoy each others company after work.

There has never been any open discussions of pimping, pricing or services provided. Just friendly conversations that occasionally will drift into an adult nature without anyone getting embarrasses about it. But never shop talk as far as I am concerned. Trust me I have been on double dinner dates with couples that are in the swing lifestyle and BDSM lifestyle and those conversations would light your ears up if you were not prepared for it. That doesn’t happen at any of the events I have attended with my friends from here. I do have to qualify that statement by saying that I have not attended all of the events due to work or family commitments. But I can honestly say that anytime I have participated that I have not seen or been involved with anything even close to being considered illegal, risky or even inappropriate.

I have heard of parties that have occurred but have not personally partaken in them where things have been taken to the next level. I would most definitely think that at such a party all involved would have to be extremely comfortable with each other and have a very high level of trust in one another. A very difficult thing to achieve in this hobby I do believe.

I am not trying to disparage or dismiss any of the comments made on the subject by those that have contributed. On the contrary, I think you all have made some great points that everyone (including myself) should take to heart and honestly examine your actions to insure that you are minimizing your risk. I don’t think that anyone should stop doing what makes them happy, just take a honest inventory and make any adjustments you feel are warranted to minimize your risk.

I do sincerely thank you one and all for your time and thoughts. But we also must keep in mind that all of us have our own ideas, comfort levels and method of hobbying that coincide with our own unique set of needs, wants and expectations. Some hobbyist have a much higher (or lower) threshold of risk than others. This doesn’t make them wrong or reckless. It just means they may be more in this for the hunt (i.e. street girls) or super conservative (i.e. Eros girls). Regardless of the risk factor one chooses to challenge or avoid it is imperative for one and all that they take all necessary steps to minimize their risk while maximizing their attempts at quiet enjoyment. LOL!

Once again, thank everyone for their comments as even an old dog like me learned a couple of new things the last couple of days.

Sincerely,

KG



[QUOTE=WarlockKy]There is a very fine line that one has to avoid crossing with a meet n greet...

Lookee here. If you are reading this, and are a mother who feels unappreciated at times, or always, this is for you. I truly wish you a Happy Mother's Day! If you are giving the position, and what a job it is, the best you can give, more than that you cannot do. Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day!

Lookee

to put something like that for all of the mother's. I for one, appreciate it. I hope a few others found it to be very warming and thoughtful as well.

XOXO,

Dawn

[QUOTE=Lookee]Lookee here. If you are reading this, and are a mother who feels unappreciated at times, or always, this is for you. I truly wish you a Happy Mother's Day! If you are giving the position, and what a job it is, the best you can give, more than that you cannot do. Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day!

Lookee[/QUOTE]

Wish I had thought of that.

Sorry everyone screwed up was trying to find out some info and Kat was on my mind. What the H was I thinking.

2 girls keep posting on cl, after an awful 1st try, 2nd try was ok, can talk them down on price! the taller one is way better looking!

I know of two girls that work the otr area that go by brandy and Nora and those two are not them. The two I know of are much hotter. Brandy is a cute blond with h sore and she should have just got out of lockup. They to claim to be sisters. I guess this should be a sign not to name our little girls Brandy and Nora.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Randyman1501]A few months back, cbarton posted some info in the chatlines section about a ripoff he suffered at the hands of a Candy and Brandy. They sounded awfully familiar to me, so I posted at the time....[/QUOTE]There were some discussions about whether "Candy" and Nora were one in the same after I posted the following report in the SW thread:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=861504&postcount=545[/url]

We had assumed at the time that based on description alone that it was in fact her and that I had gotten off lucky that night. Confirming for you now that the picture on the right with the dark hair was indeed the subject of the report in the link.

[QUOTE=Randyman1501]A few months back, cbarton posted some info in the chatlines section about a ripoff he suffered at the hands of a Candy and Brandy. They sounded awfully familiar to me, so I posted at the time.[/QUOTE]Brandy was in UPH when I've found her back in July 2008. She is [b]trouble and should be avoided[/b].

Here is my original post back in 2008.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=673360&postcount=913[/url]

Brandy is a classic thief and she will [b]cash & dash you and bait & switch[/b] every chance she can get. I never dealt with her sister Nora AKA Candy but IMHO she is the same as her sister. STAY AWAY from both of them, the Oliver sisters, and save yourself time and money.

Then in February 2009 a member on the board, [b]I Need It[/b], had contacted Brandy on the Chatline and to say the least he wasn't happy.

Read this post: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=772362&postcount=73[/url]

Unbelievable that he got away with his life and not harmed. The above report shows what not to do when meeting someone from the chatlines. There has been other reports telling about guys meeting prospects from the chatlines at UPH to be scammed and threaten with bodily harm at the houses they were told to meet the girls.

One more point I want to make here is that members need to learn to use the [b]Search[/b] Tool about SW's and Escorts. This Forum has Tons of invaluable information.

When you want to know about a certain SW or Hooker, click on [b]SEARCH[/b] and type in the [b]Key Word(s)[/b] her name. Then Select the date from any period of time frame like six months ago and older. Also select [b]Reports[/b] in the "Show Results as" selection. Next select the state [b]Ohio[/b] and [b]Cincinnati[/b] and finally click on [b]Search Now[/b].

You will find plenty of information and probably have to weed out the specific person you are searching about from similar named persons. Also select Reports in the "Show Results as" selection.

I'm tired of seeing people always posting questions like "Anyone has information about so and so" or "What's the 411 on this girl". Do your Search and you'll find just about all the answers to your questions just on this Forum.

Harpo

I still go to undercover lock down Parties, with area strippers for the purpose of arrangement right there, and in the future. The price is preset, there is a door cover, and it is BYOB. Often, drinks are sold too. There is always a place to conduct business with ladies, and the main area have live stripping and more going on.

It is never open to the public and if you don't know the person giving it, or from someone well connected, then you won't get in or even an invite.

The place is full of Dope Boyz with rolls of money to burn, so you won't impress the girls with money, because you will always be out-spent everytime. So you better have your conversation skillz very handy. That will get you far, and your ability to pay helps too.

Remember Dope Boyz are quick money to them, so they need folks like us for longterm security, and money, so they will bit when you are fishing. Dope Boyz have so many girlz to do, that most time it is one time and out. So it is a good idea to get decent contact info, and a place to meet at.

The real problem is that these girlz change cell phones so often that they can be hard to let up with, and they tend to be most available when you are not. They can have day jobs and can move from place to place often. So there are many problems to deal with.

The good thing is that they are very Sexz, well built, young over 21y/o, attractive, somewhat money minded, but often not business minded. Often a head full of fake hair, fake nails, and too much mouth, and the cell phone is glued to their hands, it never stops ringing, so you have to demand them to turn it off or be prepared to walk out. This needs to be done before you pay anything. Get your rule known up front and show them that they need you MORE than you need them.

Be firm, tough, and fair!

And No I Will Not Give Anyone Inform On The Parties. I risk loosing my invitations if I do.