General Reports

#1 Disrobing is not against the law in most municipalities. So go ahead and disrobe, lay face down with the towel covering your arse.

#2 Most MILFS at AMP's are pretty thick skinned, they know the territory they work in, so it's pretty hard to hurt their feelings as long as you show respect. Make it clear that you would like a younger provider before you even hand the money over for the session. If they oblige, ask to see the provider. If your're not happy with their line up, say no thank you and leave. It's your money. Remember that.

#3. Never discuss sexually explicit details until during the session she makes the first move, (Usually it's very apparent, they'll touch your balls and rub them gently).

# 4 Your welcome. Read this forum and you'll never have to worry about LE.

I'm not sure about your last question as far as % of Milfs. That depends on your definition of MILF. 28 and over? 35 and Over?? I would say the majority are in their 30's


Baggens.

[QUOTE=Sound7;2161727]Curent LA Best Practice to avoid MILF AMP / LE.

1) Should one disrobe prior to seeing the therapist?



2) What is the best way to reject MILF at AMP without hurting feelings?

3) What is the best current safe practice at AMP?

4) Thanks for considering my questions.

Does anyone have a guess as to the percentage of MILF in AMP practice in LA?[/QUOTE]

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.[/QUOTE]Where did you meet the latina with the hat? She is beautiful. Please let me know. Also are you referring to el classificado?

Young Lady Ratio at AMP (25 % ?):

What are the odds of finding Young Lady (18 to 30 real age) in the Southern California region and are some areas (SGV or GG) more likely to have better odds. MILFS would be the 40+, Mid band being 30 to 40 with overlap.

Would it help to know the native language of the providers at AMP to find young talent in LA or that is not an issue in Southern California? [URL]Backpage.com[/URL] is full of young ladies and no mention of Mid or MILFS. It begs to ask the question why have the MILFS in the AMP in the first place. Beauty comes in all ages but having tissue hanging on the bones is just gross by any standard. Unless no return business is expected on certain clients by design and just take the money due to lacking communication and experience skills.

[B]Other ISG MLIF comments:
If it's a 40 something ajumma milf yer looking to get, forget, those belong to a previous gold digging era. Nowadays, younger chicks have a different way of thinking (more on par with us). [/B]

Response Clarification:

[B] ]#1 Disrobing is not against the law in most municipalities. So go ahead and disrobe, lay face down with the towel covering your arse.[/B]

Would it be too risky to sit naked at the end of the table and greet the provider by standing and saying "Hello. ".

In case no pre-viewing was provided and in the MILF the case to kindly request mamasan for a change or refund and come back some other time when younger ladies are available. The message being "Make it clear that you would like a younger provider" and be respectful.

Thanks again for the insights.

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;2161780]#1 Disrobing is not against the law in most municipalities. So go ahead and disrobe, lay face down with the towel covering your arse.

#2 Most MILFS at AMP's are pretty thick skinned, they know the territory they work in, so it's pretty hard to hurt their feelings as long as you show respect. Make it clear that you would like a younger provider before you even hand the money over for the session. If they oblige, ask to see the provider. If your're not happy with their line up, say no thank you and leave. It's your money. Remember that.

#3. Never discuss sexually explicit details until during the session she makes the first move, (Usually it's very apparent, they'll touch your balls and rub them gently).

# 4 Your welcome. Read this forum and you'll never have to worry about LE.

I'm not sure about your last question as far as % of Milfs. That depends on your definition of MILF. 28 and over? 35 and Over?? I would say the majority are in their 30's


Baggens.[/QUOTE]

I'm currently trying out a couple Viet places in my area, where most of the women are under 30, with great bodies. I've been to these places about 4 times, so it wouldn't be too brazen of me to sit on the corner of the table using my dick as a plumb bob as we greet, However, that's not my style, but I'm sure guys do that sort of thing. In my previous post, it was in the context of a first visit.

It's not out of line to ask for a line up before any funds change hands. If they're not cooperative, don't feel guilty about leaving. This is your hard, (unless your a Trust fund baby) earned money. The onus is on them not you. Just be courteous and polite. If they pull this kind of deceptive behavior and it's not rewarded, they'll either change or go out of business.

I'm a little curious though. You are a senior member and these are typical questions asked by Newbies, so I don't understand why you don't have knowledge of the " WAYS".

Baggens.

[QUOTE=Sound7;2162065]Young Lady Ratio at AMP (25 % ?):

What are the odds of finding Young Lady (18 to 30 real age) in the Southern California region and are some areas (SGV or GG) more likely to have better odds. MILFS would be the 40+, Mid band being 30 to 40 with overlap.

Would it help to know the native language of the providers at AMP to find young talent in LA or that is not an issue in Southern California? [URL]Backpage.com[/URL] is full of young ladies and no mention of Mid or MILFS. It begs to ask the question why have the MILFS in the AMP in the first place. Beauty comes in all ages but having tissue hanging on the bones is just gross by any standard. Unless no return business is expected on certain clients by design and just take the money due to lacking communication and experience skills.

[B]Other ISG MLIF comments:
If it's a 40 something ajumma milf yer looking to get, forget, those belong to a previous gold digging era. Nowadays, younger chicks have a different way of thinking (more on par with us). [/B]

Response Clarification:

[B] ]#1 Disrobing is not against the law in most municipalities. So go ahead and disrobe, lay face down with the towel covering your arse.[/B]

Would it be too risky to sit naked at the end of the table and greet the provider by standing and saying "Hello. ".

In case no pre-viewing was provided and in the MILF the case to kindly request mamasan for a change or refund and come back some other time when younger ladies are available. The message being "Make it clear that you would like a younger provider" and be respectful.

Thanks again for the insights.[/QUOTE]

I like to report on little subtle observations I make in this hobby and try to make sense of them so The other day one of my newer ladies hit me up for some $. I wasn't in the mood for action so I just helped her out a little knowing I'll get it back next time. Anyway, I drove to her gave her a small gift and a ride she asked for a short distance away. I noticed that instead of being appreciative of what I was doing, she got all quiet and looking at me in a strange, uncomfortable way. I didn't think much of it at the time, I thought maybe she was in a bad mood or something.

Later on I realized that I'm probably the only guy that would go out of my way to help her out like that and to her, that's out of the ordinary. She was probably looking at me suspiciously thinking I had some hidden agenda or something. Most of these girls are so psychologically disturbed and have been getting fucked in every which direction in their lives so they look at anything positive that someone does for them with a suspicious eye. They've been so mishandled that they have trust for no one and if you try to do something to help them, they will not only be unappreciative but will look at you suspiciously. I say fuck that, no more helping. Unfortunately most are beyond help.

[B]] First Visit MLIFS/AMP:

Yes, newbie question for sure as you have indicated. Have I read Camel's posting available on ISG ? The answer is yes. Did I miss something ? Yes, lack Camel's experience and insight. Did I research MILF/AMP ? No

I hope some one else can benefit from this post and your insights plus CAMEL's too (Happy Birthday) [/B]

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;2162105]I'm currently trying out a couple Viet places in my area, where most of the women are under 30, with great bodies. I've been to these places about 4 times, so it wouldn't be too brazen of me to sit on the corner of the table using my dick as a plumb bob as we greet, However, that's not my style, but I'm sure guys do that sort of thing. In my previous post, it was in the context of a first visit.

It's not out of line to ask for a line up before any funds change hands. If they're not cooperative, don't feel guilty about leaving. This is your hard, (unless your a Trust fund baby) earned money. The onus is on them not you. Just be courteous and polite. If they pull this kind of deceptive behavior and it's not rewarded, they'll either change or go out of business.

I'm a little curious though. You are a senior member and these are typical questions asked by Newbies, so I don't understand why you don't have knowledge of the " WAYS".

Baggens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seephor;2162203]I like to report on little subtle observations I make in this hobby and try to make sense of them so The other day one of my newer ladies hit me up for some $. I wasn't in the mood for action so I just helped her out a little knowing I'll get it back next time. Anyway, I drove to her gave her a small gift and a ride she asked for a short distance away. I noticed that instead of being appreciative of what I was doing, she got all quiet and looking at me in a strange, uncomfortable way. I didn't think much of it at the time, I thought maybe she was in a bad mood or something.

Later on I realized that I'm probably the only guy that would go out of my way to help her out like that and to her, that's out of the ordinary. She was probably looking at me suspiciously thinking I had some hidden agenda or something. Most of these girls are so psychologically disturbed and have been getting fucked in every which direction in their lives so they look at anything positive that someone does for them with a suspicious eye. They've been so mishandled that they have trust for no one and if you try to do something to help them, they will not only be unappreciative but will look at you suspiciously. I say fuck that, no more helping. Unfortunately most are beyond help.[/QUOTE]I dunno man, I wouldn't read that much into her silence. She might be focused in some other crap she has to deal with.

I am NOT a captain save-a-ho but that said, I always helpful (within limits) to working girls until they prove they are not worthy (I. E. They go batshit crazy, steal shit, pull knifes on bartenders, you know the drill).

I wasn't there in the above situation. But keep in mind that people respond to unfamiliar situations with stillness. We don't have "flight or fight". The real response tree to unfamiliar situations is:

Freeze.

Flight.

Fight.

And in that order. If you were just helping, and she didn't know how to respond, she'd most likely go into freeze mode, simply from not knowing any other way to act, this is most especially true for someone under 25.

[QUOTE=PeaceMillion;2161866]Where did you meet the latina with the hat? She is beautiful. Please let me know. Also are you referring to el classificado?[/QUOTE]Latina with a hat? No this one cannot be found in the El Classificado. I will send you a pm with the enclosed information to join the private club to get access to GB parties in the local Los Angeles area. It appears that every Friday they have 2 or 3 women that are ready to fulfill their Gang Bang fantasies. Not sure if I want to ever go but it's a fun idea to toy with.

I can't see myself k9 ing a lady and high fiving the dude getting his dick sucked on the other end while she is hand jobbing another bloke. Anyway not going this Friday, but here are the two girls scheduled.

If anyone else is interested in info just ask. I will expect a report in the morning though.

[QUOTE=Seephor;2162203]I like to report on little subtle observations I make in this hobby and try to make sense of them so The other day one of my newer ladies hit me up for some $. I wasn't in the mood for action so I just helped her out a little knowing I'll get it back next time. Anyway, I drove to her gave her a small gift and a ride she asked for a short distance away. I noticed that instead of being appreciative of what I was doing, she got all quiet and looking at me in a strange, uncomfortable way. I didn't think much of it at the time, I thought maybe she was in a bad mood or something.

Later on I realized that I'm probably the only guy that would go out of my way to help her out like that and to her, that's out of the ordinary. She was probably looking at me suspiciously thinking I had some hidden agenda or something. Most of these girls are so psychologically disturbed and have been getting fucked in every which direction in their lives so they look at anything positive that someone does for them with a suspicious eye. They've been so mishandled that they have trust for no one and if you try to do something to help them, they will not only be unappreciative but will look at you suspiciously. I say fuck that, no more helping. Unfortunately most are beyond help.[/QUOTE]I recently was dealing with a girl that I really wanted to get to know (Big mistake.) I seen her a couple times for quick sessions. Those little convos along w / the amazing sex had me curious. Find out she has no daddy And needs to just sort some stuff out. So I plan to meet again for long msog session. I had for the most part a good time but she dumped so much shit on me (had my head spinnin!) She was giving GFE but then asking for financial favors And overall trying to con me. It was like she was constantly 2 diff people. I still think about her And tried to Text but no response. I think she knows where I stand so that is prob the end of it (which is for the best.).

The less I know the better, on to the next one. It sux because some of these girls are pretty And deep down good people but (untill they get loads of prof. Help) no one can help them.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2162902]Latina with a hat? No this one cannot be found in the El Classificado. I will send you a pm with the enclosed information to join the private club to get access to GB parties in the local Los Angeles area. It appears that every Friday they have 2 or 3 women that are ready to fulfill their Gang Bang fantasies. Not sure if I want to ever go but it's a fun idea to toy with.

I can't see myself k9 ing a lady and high fiving the dude getting his dick sucked on the other end while she is hand jobbing another bloke. Anyway not going this Friday, but here are the two girls scheduled.

If anyone else is interested in info just ask. I will expect a report in the morning though.[/QUOTE]Hey Chris, our MILF from Studio City msged me today to hook up. Unfortunately, I've satisfied my MILF fix recently so maybe you could go keep her company.

[QUOTE=PoonHound;2163235]I recently was dealing with a girl that I really wanted to get to know (Big mistake.) I seen her a couple times for quick sessions. Those little convos along w / the amazing sex had me curious. Find out she has no daddy And needs to just sort some stuff out. So I plan to meet again for long msog session. I had for the most part a good time but she dumped so much shit on me (had my head spinnin!) She was giving GFE but then asking for financial favors And overall trying to con me. It was like she was constantly 2 diff people. I still think about her And tried to Text but no response. I think she knows where I stand so that is prob the end of it (which is for the best.).

The less I know the better, on to the next one. It sux because some of these girls are pretty And deep down good people but (untill they get loads of prof. Help) no one can help them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. I think like anything, habits / addictions getting too comfortable with something are all difficult to break out of. I have a helping personality by nature. I'm not cpt. Save a ho trying to get them out of the business but if they ask for a favor here and there, my first instinct is to help. Most will take advantage of the situation and will actually give you less in return strange as it seems. It's as if they see you in a different light and that fucks with the encounter and what you were there originally for. It's natural to get to know the person but I'm going to keep it more businesslike from now on with these girls. Like you said, most are beyond help by normal guys. I'm constantly seeing how different my lifestyle is with theirs and knows that there's just no hope trying to change anything (again, not that I want to). And by all means, I'm quoting here but don't trust anything that bleeds and doesn't die.

I've said this many times but I think it's worth repeating again. These girls are just about the $, always on the lookout for the next payout. Even if you and her had an amazing time, it's the $ that brings her to you, not your charm, looks, personality, kindness etc etc. If you want women to come to you for your traits, join a dating site and go through that circus for some pussy.

I occasionally will veer into the dating world just to keep my game and senses sharp because if you're with working girls for too long, you will forget how to actually talk to / date / pickup women and start seeing all women as working girls with a price tag over their head (only if you care for those things).

[QUOTE=Seephor;2163266]if you're with working girls for too long, you will forget how to actually talk to / date / pickup women and start seeing all women as working girls with a price tag over their head (only if you care for those things).[/QUOTE]They all have a price tag over their head. It's just that the working girls price is so much more affordable. You have obviously never been married or lived with someone for 5 years lets say or more. This is bargain basement for top quality sex.

True statements by both hollywood And seephor. I have never stopped messing w / reg girls. Ill bag a chick wheneverthe opportunity arises. No need to actively jump into some sort of dating pool. I'm sick at the thought. And never been in a relationship longer than 2 yrs (five yrs sounds like an eternity let alone marriage.).

I just don't look down on working girls (I'm the reason they are even in business.) All girls think about money And being taken care of. Once I figured that out, p4 p didn't bother me. As well as being introduced into this by multiple buddies. From Tijuana trips, to AMPs, And then SW. All dudes, just like all women, think alike. I guess its all about when you've had your fill.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2163728]They all have a price tag over their head. It's just that the working girls price is so much more affordable. You have obviously never been married or lived with someone for 5 years lets say or more. This is bargain basement for top quality sex.[/QUOTE]I have been trying to explain this to guys for years. Just the cost of the engagement ring and the wedding is enough to keep you in top-quality hookers for a decade. I had a friend spend $30,000 for a marriage that lasted 2 1/2 years. If you got two $100 hookers per week, you could fuck two different hotties each week for three years. I'm sure a marriage that lasted for 2 1/2 years wasn't exactly packed with great sex. He was lucky he didn't have a house she could take.

I have had two live-in girlfriends and the amount of money you spend on them goes up as the sex goes down. Marriage is even worse. Ten years of marriage gets you kids and a fat wife you don't even want to touch any more, and the cost just grows and grows with mini vans and braces and vacations that suck. The house you have to buy to accommodate your three kids costs way more than the cool deluxe apartment you can rent to host your afternoon fuckfests. Hookers and bar skanks never want to know where this relationship is heading. They get what they want and you get what you want and I would happily take care of a regular girl if she stopped trying to drain me of every single cent I earn and then some. This is why greedy hookers don't last. We all talk about wanting the GFE, but the reason we go to hookers is because our girlfriends and wives don't deliver what we really want. We don't want GFE from hookers. We really want the hooker experience from our wives and girlfriends.

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2164577]I have been trying to explain this to guys for years. Just the cost of the engagement ring and the wedding is enough to keep you in top-quality hookers for a decade. I had a friend spend $30,000 for a marriage that lasted 2 1/2 years. If you got two $100 hookers per week, you could fuck two different hotties each week for three years. I'm sure a marriage that lasted for 2 1/2 years wasn't exactly packed with great sex. He was lucky he didn't have a house she could take.

I have had two live-in girlfriends and the amount of money you spend on them goes up as the sex goes down. Marriage is even worse. Ten years of marriage gets you kids and a fat wife you don't even want to touch any more, and the cost just grows and grows with mini vans and braces and vacations that suck. The house you have to buy to accommodate your three kids costs way more than the cool deluxe apartment you can rent to host your afternoon fuckfests. Hookers and bar skanks never want to know where this relationship is heading. They get what they want and you get what you want and I would happily take care of a regular girl if she stopped trying to drain me of every single cent I earn and then some. This is why greedy hookers don't last. We all talk about wanting the GFE, but the reason we go to hookers is because our girlfriends and wives don't deliver what we really want. We don't want GFE from hookers. We really want the hooker experience from our wives and girlfriends.[/QUOTE]I spent my 30's doing coke and hookers. By the time I got sober and my life together I was too old for kids (I didn't want to raise teenage kids in my 60's) I could see no reason for marriage. Most of my married friends are not happy and have wives that they don't want to fuck because they have become unattractive or they are such bitches they don't want to have sex with them. I would rather pay up front and not hassle with women and all their issues. I love women for friends and sex, but I don't want all the baggage that goes with a relationship.