The Prickyard

It's interesting how perspectives can vary. There's two providers being discussed quite a bit in the last few days and it seems like my perspective is different from the majority, I don't think anyone is not telling the truth, it's we have different truths (perspectives) I'm opposite on one girl that being discussed as I did not feel her or her story were genuine, and strongly disagree that she looked just like her BP pictures, no doubt the pics are her but there's definitely been some weight gain, I even asked her about it and she said something about some recent medical issue that caused her to gain about 10 lbs, looked more like 20 to me, but; that's just my perspective.

The other lady that's been the subject of mainly positive discussion, I contacted a few weeks ago off of BP, everything went great in communications before the visit and the visit was great, I gave her a good review, had a good time and apparently she did too. The problem started after her visit, she starts texting me wanting to know if we could get together again (I liked her but if you haven't figured out yet I'm a man * and I don't repeat with a lot of ladies I like) I made up some excuses to cover the next few days, asked if I could share her contact info as I've gotten a few pm's asking for it, she made the comment that she only wants to see one guy and she prefer it be me (pretty scary imo) but she said if I was sure that it was a good guy go ahead. She would occasionally text me since then and I quit responding, Thursday evening about 20 minutes after one of her unanswered text, she called my phone, I did not answer and blocked her number, about 3 am this morning for shits and giggles I unblocked her number and I'll be damned, 9:58 am a text from her. Now this lady has apparently been the victim of a stalker, I don't have personal knowledge that that, is true, has anyone actually laid eyes on the guy? I actually suspect some sort of munchausen's syndrome could be going on here, and it also seems like if you have a real fear of being stalked, and if it's her normal operating procedure to say the kind of things she's been saying to me to guys she's met one time off a BP ad, seems like she's begging to be stalked.

These are just my perspectives.

I'm just going to post this here since it'll probably end up here.

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A client made contact with a lady of impeccable character When asked what he was look for she was told PSE natural play. She responded that if he went to his physician and got a clean bill of health she would accommodate his needs. He set up a doctor's appointment and then proceeded to ask her her hourly needs for her time 800 and hour was her response. He informed her there wasn't a POA in Indiana worth that for an hour of her time. While it is generally accepted that a provider has a right to set her hourly rate, the operative words yes and no come into play in this situation. The market of quality ladies is limited but also are blessed with more reasonable needs for time. Another well known lady was found to meet the clients needs once the tests are taken and a CBOH is provided by his physician. Have a good week gentlemen and please do not PM asking for the goddesses name for 8 and hour or the one at a much lower need. We all have needs at it is up to each client and provider to meet security issues and medical concerns of each other. Have a great day and remember to be kind to those who provide what we need and who give us reasonable requirements to assuage their concerns in this. This is a symbiotic relationship after all.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3081899]A client made contact with a lady of impeccable character When asked what he was look for she was told PSE natural play. She responded that if he went to his physician and got a clean bill of health she would accommodate his needs. [/QUOTE]It should be noted that the client asked for BBFS. If a provider asks for a high donation then maybe it's because there is high risks involved.

I've been fortunate enough to meet wonderful providers through this forum without posting as I've always been just a reader. It the posts over the last several weeks have put a fire under my ass and I need to speak up.

I know of whom you speak and as been stated on this forum before, as in life in general, stories told on this forum tend to have three sides: his side, her side and the truth.

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Sara I redacted this post and banned the account because you're lying. You're a provider and you're trying to act as if you're a guy.

You haven't always been a reader, you're a provider that has been banned on several occasions because you like to stir up shit on the forum.

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This may be my first post should A2 graciously allow through, but it's not my first, second, or even third rodeo.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3081899]A client made contact with a lady of impeccable character When asked what he was look for she was told PSE natural play. She responded that if he went to his physician and got a clean bill of health she would accommodate his needs. He set up a doctor's appointment and then proceeded to ask her her hourly needs for her time 800 and hour was her response. He informed her there wasn't a POA in Indiana worth that for an hour of her time. While it is generally accepted that a provider has a right to set her hourly rate, the operative words yes and no come into play in this situation. The market of quality ladies is limited but also are blessed with more reasonable needs for time. Another well known lady was found to meet the clients needs once the tests are taken and a CBOH is provided by his physician. Have a good week gentlemen and please do not PM asking for the goddesses name for 8 and hour or the one at a much lower need. We all have needs at it is up to each client and provider to meet security issues and medical concerns of each other. Have a great day and remember to be kind to those who provide what we need and who give us reasonable requirements to assuage their concerns in this. This is a symbiotic relationship after all.[/QUOTE]I don't have any idea what you are talking about. Did you pay a chick $800 for her time? What's a symbiotic relationship?

[QUOTE=AuroraJade2;3082168]It should be noted that the client asked for BBFS. If a provider asks for a high donation then maybe it's because there is high risks involved.[/QUOTE]And you have every right to ask for 8 but anyone has the right to say no. As far as high risks with a Clean Bill of Health the risks go down considerably and the fact YOU AGREED TO THE TERMS YOU SET, THEN MAYBE IT is a case of mutual risk taking because who knows if this would be your only venture into the taboo area. You were purposely left out of the equation to protect your "honor" however you chose to open the door and come out and admit you were willing to "go all the way" under the terms revealed without the name of the lady who would be effected. Not a wise thing to do in my opinion but your decision. Have a good week AJ and I am sure you might just have opened the door to your menu depending on the willingness of the gentlemen to take the chance as well as donate to your cause. Can't believe you outted yourself. I had more respect for your privacy and discretion than you evidently have for yourself but your choice

[QUOTE=AssGrinder;3081242]I'm just going to post this here since it'll probably end up here.

Do you gentlemen or ladies on here need a ride service to bring you to the ladies or the ladies to you discreetly with trusted drivers? All black car stuff. Please PM me if you're interested. Maybe Freckle Freak can network me in with his freckled harem. Freckles get a discount![/QUOTE]Uber? I've offered that to some of the "incall only" girls on BP. Cheaper than a cab, easier for me to pay electronically. Nope. Incall only is either a traveler (5% of the time) or handled by a pimp (95% of the time). Pimps don't like to drive unless business is down. Some druggies will drive their girlfriend to you, not good either.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3082520]And you have every right to ask for 8 but anyone has the right to say no. As far as high risks with a Clean Bill of Health the risks go down considerably and the fact YOU AGREED TO THE TERMS YOU SET, THEN MAYBE IT is a case of mutual risk taking because who knows if this would be your only venture into the taboo area. You were purposely left out of the equation to protect your "honor" however you chose to open the door and come out and admit you were willing to "go all the way" under the terms revealed without the name of the lady who would be effected. Not a wise thing to do in my opinion but your decision. Have a good week AJ and I am sure you might just have opened the door to your menu depending on the willingness of the gentlemen to take the chance as well as donate to your cause. Can't believe you outted yourself. I had more respect for your privacy and discretion than you evidently have for yourself but your choice[/QUOTE]BUT that statement is unfair. AJ has a GREAT deal of respect for herself and perhaps she felt the need to explain or stick up for herself on a situation you decided to post. If you had any respect for her in my opinion you wouldn't of felt the need to post this BM. You are right clients have the right to say no to our rates just like we have the right to say not interested to clients.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3078237]That's how it should be but not always that easy. Sometimes members on here turn out to be psychotic nut jobs that think it's their job to stalk and make providers lives a living hell. Some say that's the price you pay. Ok get it BUT it's not right. So then there are members on this forum that give a shit about providers and their well being and safety and do what they can to elevate situations, etc where they are accused of " white knighting " , " jealous " , or doing it for " extra favors " where that is SO far from the case. It wouldn't be DRAMA if certain members would understand that it's a NO strings attached agreement, have some respect and when they go too far that certain other members will step in. Whether they are a provider or a monger.[/QUOTE]I've been accused of that a time or two and I think, 'WTF?

I've said it before and I'll probably say it more. This is the only place where standing up for one's friends is called (derisively) 'white knighting'.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3081899]A client made contact with a lady of impeccable character When asked what he was look for she was told PSE natural play. She responded that if he went to his physician and got a clean bill of health she would accommodate his needs. He set up a doctor's appointment and then proceeded to ask her, her hourly needs for her time 800 and hour was her response. He informed her there wasn't a POA in Indiana worth that for an hour of her time. Have a great day and remember to be kind to those who provide what we need and who give us reasonable requirements to assuage their concerns in this. This is a symbiotic relationship after all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMack;3082520]And you have every right to ask for 8 but anyone has the right to say no. As far as high risks with a Clean Bill of Health the risks go down considerably and the fact YOU AGREED TO THE TERMS YOU SET, THEN MAYBE IT is a case of mutual risk taking because who knows if this would be your only venture into the taboo area. Have a good week AJ and I am sure you might just have opened the door to your menu depending on the willingness of the gentlemen to take the chance as well as donate to your cause.[/QUOTE]Definition: A systematic process of evaluating the potential risks that may be involved in a projected activity or undertaking. BBFS is a risk that needs to be assessed and one persons assessment of this risk may be much higher than another persons assessment no matter what the actual "CBOH RISK" may be.

Big Mac. I have known you a long time and your desires have been clearly posted in the "Mongers in Search of" blog in Louisville, Cincinnati and Indianapolis and I believe in other cities as well. All of your posts clearly state your preference. There is nothing wrong with that, it's your choice. You are looking for a clean lady who is willing to provide a PSE experience and in your mind that means "skin type flute play". Again no problem but just realize that because a provider offers PSE it does not always mean BBFS. Hell even some real porn stars use a cover. The other thing that is always evident in your posts is you are not willing to pay GPS pricing for your desired experience. Once again no problem with that.

Now to my point. If said lady with impeccable character didn't want to upset said client who she already knew what type of "Services" he wanted and knew what his "Market Value" was for said services, said lady would agree to your request to keep things peaceful but price herself out of your market. For you it's $800 hr. For a client with a higher income allowance it might be $1500 hr because she knows even the higher income client won't pay that amount for that type of service. The higher the "Risk" of providing that service means the higher the "Market Price" it becomes because she want's to reduce the demand for her to provide that service to "ZERO". Thus her risk assessment is, the service is available but your market can't afford it, thus the risk becomes zero which is where she wanted it to be in the first place.

Now my friend here is where the problem lies. You don't stop asking ladies of impeccable character even when they say NO. You wait 1, 2, 3 or 4 months and then ask again thinking, hoping something may have changed, but the answer still comes up NO. Let's face it, this can get very tiresome because you are a very persistent monger. I have told you if you want some skin play then go see an addict like Leslie, but you want it drug free also and I understand. So now that you have found a lady that can accommodate your needs then hopefully it turns into a long term positive symbiotic relationship not a parasitic one.

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;3082303]I don't have any idea what you are talking about. Did you pay a chick $800 for her time? What's a symbiotic relationship?[/QUOTE]No First Half he won't pay the chick that amount. A symbiotic relationship benefits both parties. Sometimes it's mutually beneficial relationship and sometimes the relationship is not necessarily beneficial to both. Parasites, for example, have a symbiotic relationship with their hosts, but only the parasite benefits.

So the moral of this story is assess your risk, determine your market value for said risk and don't be a parasite where only one is benefiting in a symbiotic relationship.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3082720]Definition: A systematic process of evaluating the potential risks that may be involved in a projected activity or undertaking. BBFS is a risk that needs to be assessed and one persons assessment of this risk may be much higher than another persons assessment no matter what the actual "CBOH RISK" may be.

Big Mac. I have known you a long time and your desires have been clearly posted in the "Mongers in Search of" blog in Louisville, Cincinnati and Indianapolis and I believe in other cities as well. All of your posts clearly state your preference. There is nothing wrong with that, it's your choice. You are looking for a clean lady who is willing to provide a PSE experience and in your mind that means "skin type flute play". Again no problem but just realize that because a provider offers PSE it does not always mean BBFS. Hell even some real porn stars use a cover. The other thing that is always evident in your posts is you are not willing to pay GPS pricing for your desired experience. Once again no problem with that.

Now to my point. If said lady with impeccable character didn't want to upset said client who she already knew what type of "Services" he wanted and knew what his "Market Value" was for said services, said lady would agree to your request to keep things peaceful but price herself out of your market. For you it's $800 hr. For a client with a higher income allowance it might be $1500 hr because she knows even the higher income client won't pay that amount for that type of service. The higher the "Risk" of providing that service means the higher the "Market Price" it becomes because she want's to reduce the demand for her to provide that service to "ZERO". Thus her risk assessment is, the service is available but your market can't afford it, thus the risk becomes zero which is where she wanted it to be in the first place.

Now my friend here is where the problem lies. You don't stop asking ladies of impeccable character even when they say NO. You wait 1, 2, 3 or 4 months and then ask again thinking, hoping something may have changed, but the answer still comes up NO. Let's face it, this can get very tiresome because you are a very persistent monger. I have told you if you want some skin play then go see an addict like Leslie, but you want it drug free also and I understand. So now that you have found a lady that can accommodate your needs then hopefully it turns into a long term positive symbiotic relationship not a parasitic one.

No First Half he won't pay the chick that amount. A symbiotic relationship benefits both parties. Sometimes it's mutually beneficial relationship and sometimes the relationship is not necessarily beneficial to both. Parasites, for example, have a symbiotic relationship with their hosts, but only the parasite benefits.

So the moral of this story is assess your risk, determine your market value for said risk and don't be a parasite where only one is benefiting in a symbiotic relationship.[/QUOTE]Agreed to meet my wishes but at a price too high for me. My post at no time mentioned her name as I do not do so. She outed herself why I do not know. I clearly state what I am looking for publicly but also do other methods of meeting my needs. There are a number of well known ladies who do play naturally and set parameters to do so and there is no established clear market value I am aware of for natural play. It is the woman's choice and the man's to say no. I am sorry she felt the need to come out publicly. My relationships are sought to be symbiotic not parasitic but my time and money are valuable just as a woman's are. If a lady is to high for me I let her know as it is the fruits of my labor involved. That doesn't make me a parasite It does make me a selective shopper. And yes I travel to find what I want but clearly state what I am looking for to give choices. Sometimes I settle for less which is fine. Again her name was NEVER MENTIONED BY ME and why she came on the board instead of going PM I do not know but she did so I did not out her publicly for offering BBFS she stated succinctly she would by offering me a rate for it. Case closed. Again whether you agree with me and my wants is your business but let me state for the record there are a number of quality ladies on the boards who offer it at much less so I do assess the risks for their needs to meet mine. I just do not divulge who meets my needs and would not do so. Enjoy the rest of the week.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3082841]Agreed to meet my wishes but at a price too high for me. My post at no time mentioned her name as I do not do so. She outed herself why I do not know. I clearly state what I am looking for publicly but also do other methods of meeting my needs. There are a number of well known ladies who do play naturally and set parameters to do so and there is no established clear market value I am aware of for natural play. It is the woman's choice and the man's to say no. I am sorry she felt the need to come out publicly. My relationships are sought to be symbiotic not parasitic but my time and money are valuable just as a woman's are. If a lady is to high for me I let her know as it is the fruits of my labor involved. That doesn't make me a parasite It does make me a selective shopper. And yes I travel to find what I want but clearly state what I am looking for to give choices. Sometimes I settle for less which is fine. Again her name was NEVER MENTIONED BY ME and why she came on the board instead of going PM I do not know but she did so I did not out her publicly for offering BBFS she stated succinctly she would by offering me a rate for it. Case closed. Again whether you agree with me and my wants is your business but let me state for the record there are a number of quality ladies on the boards who offer it at much less so I do assess the risks for their needs to meet mine. I just do not divulge who meets my needs and would not do so. Enjoy the rest of the week.[/QUOTE]Uh, if you talk about it publicly then you're not exactly being as discreet as you think, since you're essentially baiting the hook for the aggrieved (provider) and throwing chum into the water for the Sharks (curious mongers). Now stop with the altruistic bullshit that you never intended to out her. Your entire intent was to embarrass her.

Your entire purpose was to embarrass a provider. Congrats, you seem to have accomplished that.

[QUOTE=Mwdude;3082871]Uh, if you talk about it publicly then you're not exactly being as discreet as you think, since you're essentially baiting the hook for the aggrieved (provider) and throwing chum into the water for the Sharks (curious mongers). Now stop with the altruistic bullshit that you never intended to out her. Your entire intent was to embarrass her.

Your entire purpose was to embarrass a provider. Congrats, you seem to have accomplished that.[/QUOTE]If my purpose was to embarrass I would have named names I did not. I am not altruistic When I have something to say I do PERIOD. If AJ wanted to deal with she could have done so PM Plain and simple. Feel secure in knowing that you have done your job as a board savior and white knight for the oppressed ladies of USASG. If Want to embarrass anyone I am quite capable of it but not my style. My post could have been about any of a number of ladies on this and other boards but was not nor as I stated where names mentioned Unless you are a great mind reader if she had not appeared to "defend her honor" when no names were mentioned you wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in hell of knowing who it was about. So get off your horse and go back to doing whatever it is you do best.

[QUOTE=BigMack;3082913]If my purpose was to embarrass I would have named names I did not. I am not altruistic When I have something to say I do PERIOD. If AJ wanted to deal with she could have done so PM Plain and simple. Feel secure in knowing that you have done your job as a board savior and white knight for the oppressed ladies of USASG. If Want to embarrass anyone I am quite capable of it but no my style. My post could have been about any of a number of ladies on this and other boards but was not nor as I stated where names mentioned Unless you are a great mind reader if she had not appeared to "defend her honor" when no names were mentioned you wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in hell of knowing who it was about. So get off your horse and go back to doing whatever it is you do best.[/QUOTE]It's NOT your style?? Oh come on BM WE all know your style and ditto if YOU had a issue you could if PM'Ed her and we know how smart you are and how you come across. You have done that to several providers sorry sir but you have. YOU knew what you were doing. So DON'T get offensive when people are defending AJ because YOU were being disrespectful and don't start accusing people of " white knighting " when you were in the wrong. Don't act like your innocent here. You opened this door.