Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3993459]As you want to be treated. This is the way I have always treated the girls I have dealt with. When issues pop up, gone they go. There is no need for any of us to have to deal with anymore drama then we want to deal with. Every once in a great while I'll get burned with a cash and dash, but that is what this forum is for, to let others know to avoid. Luckily I have not ever had to get violent with any girl, or her pimp, tho there have been some close calls to be sure. We all have reasons for doing this, high sex drive, variety of girls, introversion, social interaction programs, time issues, and yes, some are lonely and enjoy the company. It is all personal preference. I have always looked at it this way, you are ALWAYS paying for your time with a girl, up to and including marriage. At liest with a provider, you are not paying them to stay, you are paying them to leave.[/QUOTE]For me as I imagine with most its having sex with a young female but mostly I'm done with the steady GF bs and time constraint, I still don't get what the paying them to leave is about since if a guy finishes 5 minutes into there HH or 20 minutes into there HR almost all will be in compliance and run out the door, mission accomplished if that's really what there paying for.

With a girlfriend / wife / mistress, you are dumping money on dates, gifts, flowers, vacations, etc. To keep them happy and at home with you. You know the whole happy wife happy life thing. With a provider, you give them a set cost for whatever you all decide to do. Bed sports, BDSM, kitty play (the other cat), night out, weekend away, and the like. Then they go. No muss no fuss. Depending on your lifestyle and interests, it could be more convenient then wandering the mall with the old lady and she strategically leads you to the jewelry store.

[QUOTE=EddiesPickle;3993956]For me as I imagine with most its having sex with a young female but mostly I'm done with the steady GF bs and time constraint, I still don't get what the paying them to leave is about since if a guy finishes 5 minutes into there HH or 20 minutes into there HR almost all will be in compliance and run out the door, mission accomplished if that's really what there paying for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3995491]With a girlfriend / wife / mistress, you are dumping money on dates, gifts, flowers, vacations, etc. To keep them happy and at home with you. You know the whole happy wife happy life thing. With a provider, you give them a set cost for whatever you all decide to do. Bed sports, BDSM, kitty play (the other cat), night out, weekend away, and the like. Then they go. No muss no fuss. Depending on your lifestyle and interests, it could be more convenient then wandering the mall with the old lady and she strategically leads you to the jewelry store.[/QUOTE]Lmao very true, had my ex regular begging me today and offering BBFS again but I wanted to make out and she apparently didn't want to, said she only wanted to see me again and no one else but without confirmation on what I wanted all of a sudden she had to take care of something and try to hurry and get back to me, 8 hours later no word back, bye veronica, according to her were all losers that couldn't get a gf without paying and when I said what I read about things she does that's reported she claims theres no Mr egg ever and all you are lying losers LOL not sure why she bothers I don't want to be within a mile of her.

The parting barrages can always be quite harsh. I have an odd feeling within a few days / weeks, she will be hitting you up again as if nothing was done or said. Way to many judgemental people out there. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have found the most judgemental people tend to be the dirtiest of the dirty. But that is not me judging now.

[QUOTE=EddiesPickle;3995518]Lmao very true, had my ex regular begging me today and offering BBFS again but I wanted to make out and she apparently didn't want to, said she only wanted to see me again and no one else but without confirmation on what I wanted all of a sudden she had to take care of something and try to hurry and get back to me, 8 hours later no word back, bye veronica, according to her were all losers that couldn't get a gf without paying and when I said what I read about things she does that's reported she claims theres no Mr egg ever and all you are lying losers LOL not sure why she bothers I don't want to be within a mile of her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3997011]The parting barrages can always be quite harsh. I have an odd feeling within a few days / weeks, she will be hitting you up again as if nothing was done or said. Way to many judgemental people out there. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have found the most judgemental people tend to be the dirtiest of the dirty. But that is not me judging now.[/QUOTE]Apparently I'm in good company, I can't even count how many times she's reamed with profanity and I try to take the high road, sometimes as soon as the next day I get a hey how's it going like nothing happened, were you spot on.

After reading the some reports and other things on this site I'm glad that there is an ignore list.

Maybe its just me but I'm tired of some members that I'm sure are getting up there in years starting to realize their own mortality just dumping all of it on us. I come here to find out who's good or not. Who's a ripoff or not. Stings, busts or other things that's important to know about the hobby. I'll never be man of the year or father of the year because of the decisions I've made in my life but to read some of the bs about these women and the choices / decisions they made, having CPS getting involved an being put out here is crap. When I'm done mongering I'll throw my phone away and walk away from this. There have been very few women that know any more about me than you guys do. I'll be done, I'll be history. But these women put themselves out there with pics and names etc that they have no way of ever getting away from it. I'm not being a white knight here just, common sense. These women make bad choices just like I do but here its on public display. The saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones really comes to mind. I guess my real point here is to think before you put something out there, and remember if it wasn't for them a lot of us probably wouldn't be getting our dicks sucked or getting laid.

Crow out.

[QUOTE=Crow99;3997660]After reading the some reports and other things on this site I'm glad that there is an ignore list.

Maybe its just me but I'm tired of some members that I'm sure are getting up there in years starting to realize their own mortality just dumping all of it on us. I come here to find out who's good or not. Who's a ripoff or not. Stings, busts or other things that's important to know about the hobby. I'll never be man of the year or father of the year because of the decisions I've made in my life but to read some of the bs about these women and the choices / decisions they made, having CPS getting involved an being put out here is crap. When I'm done mongering I'll throw my phone away and walk away from this. There have been very few women that know any more about me than you guys do. I'll be done, I'll be history. But these women put themselves out there with pics and names etc that they have no way of ever getting away from it. I'm not being a white knight here just, common sense. These women make bad choices just like I do but here its on public display. The saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones really comes to mind. I guess my real point here is to think before you put something out there, and remember if it wasn't for them a lot of us probably wouldn't be getting our dicks sucked or getting laid.

Crow out.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on some of the points. Yes, they did make some bad choices to be where they are. One thing that does irk me some is when people link real names to the providers on here. This is problematic as it makes this place easier to be found by other providers that might not knke about it, but more importantly, it allows family members to read about what loved ones have done. I would hate to be the child of one of these workers (I can only imagine the lifestyle that a SW provides for their child) but I would hate for a child to google their mothers name only to read about how they are getting cream pied, corn holed, talked down to a Jackson and a tip for a BBBJCIM and to toss their salad, or how their mother was one of the best sword swallowers in brewtown, or would take a baker's dozen dicks a day to get her fix, or known to do ATM. Their lives are indeed on public display. Maybe not as public as a porn star, but certainly more stigmatized. Posting sting reports and links to county lockup publicly doesn't help out either.

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[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3964685]I have dated a provider. At first you think this is so cool. Especially if they are really pretty. You get to know them and hear all their stories. But after a couple of weeks I don't care if they look like Mariah Carey, they annoy you to no end. You get tired of the phone ringing. You will find they have some sort of mental disorder such as ADHD or Bipolar and are impossible to be around. You will put up with a lot of crap for the free crazy sex and companionship. Soon you will learn why they don't have a real man in their life despite being so pretty. Most have drug addiction issue and a rap sheet a mile long. There is no future. Don't fall in love. I did fall in love with a provider and got hurt. Never again.

There are ways to make a provider fall in love with you. Won't go into all the details here but it comes down to them being a women, and understanding their emotional needs. Most had no father figure. Most have no financial security. They want to feel loved, needed and protected. Just like any other woman. Most of all don't judge them. But bringing one home to shack up is like bringing home an adopted pit bull. They can turn on you at any time.[/QUOTE]Dang really? I met this super gorgeous Polish mixed girl from Latvia. Catholic, no tattoos, does not smoke, eats healthy, has secondary education in business administration. Genetically fit, I'd have kids with her. After a few sessions of seeing her, I mentioned if she had any friends and was looking for a wife, just as I finished the sentence, she enthusiastically blurts out "I'll be your wife". She then drops onto the bed staring at the ceiling looking like she's already daydreaming about the wedding. I even said she'd have to work by finding an actual career outside of this, no objections from her.

I know Eastern Europe is pretty shit for economic opportunities and good amount of women from there want to leave. She would be a great catch; I gave her a wrapped gift without telling her what was inside and she turned it down, not the materialistic type of gal I suppose. Still deep down inside she's probably batshit crazy or I'm being used as a stepping stone. *mind fucked*.

[QUOTE=Tippe;3999509]Dang really? I met this super gorgeous Polish mixed girl from Latvia. Catholic, no tattoos, does not smoke, eats healthy, has secondary education in business administration. Genetically fit, I'd have kids with her. After a few sessions of seeing her, I mentioned if she had any friends and was looking for a wife, just as I finished the sentence, she enthusiastically blurts out "I'll be your wife". She then drops onto the bed staring at the ceiling looking like she's already daydreaming about the wedding. I even said she'd have to work by finding an actual career outside of this, no objections from her.

I know Eastern Europe is pretty shit for economic opportunities and good amount of women from there want to leave. She would be a great catch; I gave her a wrapped gift without telling her what was inside and she turned it down, not the materialistic type of gal I suppose. Still deep down inside she's probably batshit crazy or I'm being used as a stepping stone. *mind fucked*.[/QUOTE]What's her name and number? Would love to give her a spin before you marry her.

Without getting in to specifics about my life. I've learned some things.

I never use Apple products or Fb. I know everything is tracked now but some seem to be more than others. Just my choice. I don't dabble in civilan women anymore. Don't get me wrong I still will flirt with them and try to get numbers but that's about as far as it goes. Theres a women at a gas station I go to I know it would take nothing for me to bang her but I also know it would be hard to get rid of her, not cause I'm great just outside women for the most part are looking for a man. The problem that I had all those years ago was that once I started getting close to this woman I started telling her the problems I was having and she told me how different she was. Grass aint greener. All the problems I had with my s o we had the same. Truth is if you pull their pants down there all sisters. When it comes to providers I got close to my regular. I knew alot about her (even about some of you guys LOL) and she knew alot about me. But not too much.

So what happened in short is I learned to be as careful as possible. The saying even animals don't shit where the eat comes to mind. Its kinda hard with all the stuff we go through but I try. I have alot to lose like most of you guys but since the last time I took some precautions so I can minimize it financialy. But I can't cover all.

On another note I watched something yesterday day that really had me rethinking everything about the hobby.

Stay safe fellas.

[QUOTE=Ps1999;4002414]Without getting in to specifics about my life. I've learned some things.

I never use Apple products or Fb. I know everything is tracked now but some seem to be more than others. Just my choice. I don't dabble in civilan women anymore. Don't get me wrong I still will flirt with them and try to get numbers but that's about as far as it goes. Theres a women at a gas station I go to I know it would take nothing for me to bang her but I also know it would be hard to get rid of her, not cause I'm great just outside women for the most part are looking for a man. The problem that I had all those years ago was that once I started getting close to this woman I started telling her the problems I was having and she told me how different she was. Grass aint greener. All the problems I had with my s o we had the same. Truth is if you pull their pants down there all sisters. When it comes to providers I got close to my regular. I knew alot about her (even about some of you guys LOL) and she knew alot about me. But not too much.

So what happened in short is I learned to be as careful as possible. The saying even animals don't shit where the eat comes to mind. Its kinda hard with all the stuff we go through but I try. I have alot to lose like most of you guys but since the last time I took some precautions so I can minimize it financialy. But I can't cover all.

On another note I watched something yesterday day that really had me rethinking everything about the hobby.

Stay safe fellas.[/QUOTE]So what happened bud that has you rethinking everything??

[QUOTE=Ps1999;4002414]Without getting in to specifics about my life. I've learned some things.

I never use Apple products or Fb. I know everything is tracked now but some seem to be more than others. Just my choice. I don't dabble in civilan women anymore. Don't get me wrong I still will flirt with them and try to get numbers but that's about as far as it goes. Theres a women at a gas station I go to I know it would take nothing for me to bang her but I also know it would be hard to get rid of her, not cause I'm great just outside women for the most part are looking for a man. The problem that I had all those years ago was that once I started getting close to this woman I started telling her the problems I was having and she told me how different she was. Grass aint greener. All the problems I had with my s o we had the same. Truth is if you pull their pants down there all sisters. When it comes to providers I got close to my regular. I knew alot about her (even about some of you guys LOL) and she knew alot about me. But not too much.

So what happened in short is I learned to be as careful as possible. The saying even animals don't shit where the eat comes to mind. Its kinda hard with all the stuff we go through but I try. I have alot to lose like most of you guys but since the last time I took some precautions so I can minimize it financialy. But I can't cover all.

On another note I watched something yesterday day that really had me rethinking everything about the hobby.

Stay safe fellas.[/QUOTE]Pretty woman?

[QUOTE=Ps1999;4002414]Without getting in to specifics about my life. I've learned some things.

I never use Apple products or Fb. I know everything is tracked now but some seem to be more than others. Just my choice. I don't dabble in civilan women anymore. Don't get me wrong I still will flirt with them and try to get numbers but that's about as far as it goes. Theres a women at a gas station I go to I know it would take nothing for me to bang her but I also know it would be hard to get rid of her, not cause I'm great just outside women for the most part are looking for a man. The problem that I had all those years ago was that once I started getting close to this woman I started telling her the problems I was having and she told me how different she was. Grass aint greener. All the problems I had with my s o we had the same. Truth is if you pull their pants down there all sisters. When it comes to providers I got close to my regular. I knew alot about her (even about some of you guys LOL) and she knew alot about me. But not too much.

So what happened in short is I learned to be as careful as possible. The saying even animals don't shit where the eat comes to mind. Its kinda hard with all the stuff we go through but I try. I have alot to lose like most of you guys but since the last time I took some precautions so I can minimize it financialy. But I can't cover all.

On another note I watched something yesterday day that really had me rethinking everything about the hobby.

Stay safe fellas.[/QUOTE]Kind of hard to figure out what the point of what you just spend a lot of time writing.

If you're talking about having your phone on when you walk into a spa you are correct people can see you, find out who you are Etc. I most recently found a lot of information out about a spa girl reading her Facebook page. A whole lot of skeletons in their closet.

Most of the Asian girls don't have a complete Facebook account. But still it's a way into your life or theirs.

Your other point, yes we all have a lot to lose some of us more than others. Being careful is paramount. Being single you have a chance of spending all your money on this Hobby if you don't have a GF.

Being married, this hobby could ruin your life and all you have built.

I hope everybody already knows that.