The Woodshed

[QUOTE=TomCat4871;2764757]Random comment here.

Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.[/QUOTE]If you find one on a social network, you will find them linked together. I see many of these girls on social network and they are usually linked to others that do this. They even use the same pictures for FB they do for their BP adds. Kind of odd actually, but like someone said, they meet doing this, word of mouth, and probably in the joint, so there ya go.

[QUOTE=LuckyGandor;2765124]Well our opinions of Intel differ. I was already in contact with her. I enjoyed your story you posted (the everyone thought was bs BTW but me) so I replied if you had a pic of her. You did and it turned out to be the same girl. I was planning to see her anyhow but figured I'd enjoy your story too.

If you consider that Intel then great you gave me Intel, thanks big guy. Most of the other emails was me enjoying your stories. Sorry for trying to be friendly.

And to think I defended you to the 5-6 people who pmed me talking shit about you. What a waste.[/QUOTE]Well gosh, LuckyG. Thanks for being my white knight in your inbox. Last thing I would have to do is to lie about some pussy I paid for. Or some free tricks from a hooker. No disrespect to the girls intended. I like hookers. They are the reason we joined this site.

[QUOTE=JaxSince1982;2761237]I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?[/QUOTE]Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.

I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference!

[QUOTE=KittyLikker;2765474]Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.

I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference![/QUOTE]Crazy as it may sound, that may be a reason to perfer the SWs over the BP'ers (among other things). BP'ers have real lives, & could probably do some real damage to your reputation if they really wanted to. SWs are so trapped and so consumed by their addictions they don't have the means to really expose you, unless they cooperate with LEO.

In the beginning I thought I'd 'graduate' to BP once I could afford it. Now that I can, it's so many reasons to stay off BP. The stroll is like [URL]Amazon.com[/URL] or walmart. They have mostly what you need and some of what you want. BP is like eBay. Only for rare products, everything else is overpriced.

Saw naomi again this morning. I know I probably sound like a broken record. LOL. But I get my coin worth and she's just hands down an awesome chick. And I never get ripped off or clock watched and I get everything I want. I've decided until she quits the game my wampums will be well spent. Be safe and remember to always keep the peacepipe packed. Tonto!!

[QUOTE=GufyFosho;2765274]If you find one on a social network, you will find them linked together. I see many of these girls on social network and they are usually linked to others that do this. They even use the same pictures for FB they do for their BP adds. Kind of odd actually, but like someone said, they meet doing this, word of mouth, and probably in the joint, so there ya go.[/QUOTE]Your absolutely correct. These providers all know each other ie facebook social media etc. My atf said oh I know her. She's on my facebook. Etc. So you are 100 percent correct on that! Tonto!

[QUOTE=TomCat4871;2764757]Random comment here.

Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.[/QUOTE]I was about to post about the same exact thing. It is unreal how connected they are. I guess it should be expected. Poking around, I have connected pretty much every BP chick out there. Whats funny (and scary) is that I have a mutual friend with two of them. I wonder how he knows them but don't have the balls to ask or know how to do so without revealing how I do. That would be really awkward.

[QUOTE=KittyLikker;2765474]Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.

I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference![/QUOTE]Let me say one as a dancer turned provider, with a regular job / life as well, it does happen. One time years and years ago when I was only dancing, I had my kids with me and ran into someone from the club this was over off baymeadows, apparently he was blind to the fact that I had kids with me and kept following me around the grocery store like don't I know you, the whole time I am like umm no you don't and pointing to the kids.

There have been other times, as well, once I got a job at a restaurant, hired by one manager only to go in and find out my general manager was a regular of mine back in the days of Cinders. I didn't work there to long cause it was just weird. Since then here and there I have came across a few mongers, and I think we all have the same fear, is he / she going to blow my cover. I can say that probably just as much as you would want your hobby to stay a secret, we want our double lives kept in the dark as well. There are a few members of this board who I have known for 10+ years, and have seen at multiples places I have been employed at, but we are not necessarily friends that speak on a day to day basis but enough so that we can chat, only if the other person is alone. I can't speak for every provider, or every monger, but there is a reason we all go through all these necessary precautions, burner phones, google voice numbers, text apps, and what not. Everyone wants to have a good time, but there is no need for others to know about it, unless it is here and we are just giving out info for others. Just my two cents for what is worth.

So,

It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).

1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".

2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.

3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.

4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.

5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.

I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.

[QUOTE=HallPass;2768262]So,

It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).

1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".

2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.

3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.

4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.

5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.

I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.[/QUOTE]Be the user or be used, brutal but true. Be in control.

[QUOTE=AlleyFromCin;2767721]Let me say one as a dancer turned provider, with a regular job / life as well, it does happen. One time years and years ago when I was only dancing, I had my kids with me and ran into someone from the club this was over off baymeadows, apparently he was blind to the fact that I had kids with me and kept following me around the grocery store like don't I know you, the whole time I am like umm no you don't and pointing to the kids.

There have been other times, as well, once I got a job at a restaurant, hired by one manager only to go in and find out my general manager was a regular of mine back in the days of Cinders. I didn't work there to long cause it was just weird. Since then here and there I have came across a few mongers, and I think we all have the same fear, is he / she going to blow my cover. I can say that probably just as much as you would want your hobby to stay a secret, we want our double lives kept in the dark as well. There are a few members of this board who I have known for 10+ years, and have seen at multiples places I have been employed at, but we are not necessarily friends that speak on a day to day basis but enough so that we can chat, only if the other person is alone. I can't speak for every provider, or every monger, but there is a reason we all go through all these necessary precautions, burner phones, google voice numbers, text apps, and what not. Everyone wants to have a good time, but there is no need for others to know about it, unless it is here and we are just giving out info for others. Just my two cents for what is worth.[/QUOTE]Good point of view from the other side of the hobby, Google, Facebook are a good resource and I don't think being completely hidden is impossible because people talk and your details will get around with Hobbyist or providers for sure. That's an extra effort I don't worry about, No burner phone, goggle voice or hidden text here, If I want to see you, you will know exactly who I am because I will know exactly who you are no matter if your name is Roxie, Trixie what ever, If I can't satisfy my need for knowledge about the lady I want to see I don't see her.

[QUOTE=HallPass;2768262]So,

It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).

1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".

2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.

3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.

4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.

5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.

I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.[/QUOTE]I thought you did a pretty good job with your advice, just a couple things I'd like to add.

First if you have the option of outcall use it! If she's coming to your house there's almost zero chance she's a cop and you have a lot of control in your own place.

Second and while I'm not a frequenter of Street walkers there is a sure fire way to tell if a SW is a cop or not, just ask her if she needs a ride? A women police officer under no circumstances is going to get into your car, ever! Now a regular street hooker might also be cautious about entering your vehicle but she will almost always get inside if you look cool. A police woman never will and asking to give a woman a ride isn't against the law.

Stay safe my brothers. JD.

I believe with what we have now as far as tools go it does make it easier and I would imagine harder to stop. I remember my first dream. It was summer of 87. Found the ad in the village voice. Then went on to picking up the latest copy of screw magazine. While I do go on a hiatus of sorts now and then I must agree its so much easier to pick up this smarty phone and look around. Better than hitting the newsstand. LOL. Good luck JD. If you can quit buying tobacco you can quit buying ass. Just my. 02. This old chief can't quit the damn tobacco. LOL.

Wow. Had to throw this out. If only just to remember,LOL. The days of old are long gone. My first dream was in a place where you went in and about 8 girls if I remember right lined up in front of this young scout and the lady of the house told me to pick. I remember being nervous and unable to decide. She mustve picked up on this and said pick two. This is your first time isn't it. Wow. I picked this gorgeous redhead and this really fine brunette. My first threesome ever and it was amazing. I miss that scenario where there was a place you could chill out grab a drink feel completely safe and shoot the shit with the ladies. But that was many moons ago and now its pick 1 and hope for the best and hope the place isn't shady or a sting. Tonto!

Madam Kiki? I used to work for her. She had a really cool lounge room, and always had a fridge stocked with drinks / beers. All the girls wore all black dresses / heels and we would all come out at once and he got to choose. Then, walked back down into the sessions rooms, and there was massage tables, lay-down showers, etc. Does this sound familiar to you? It was a little pop up business off University, right behind the chicken place. I've always wondered what happened to Kiki. I left shorty, and went independent.

[QUOTE=Tonto25;2769086]Wow. Had to throw this out. If only just to remember,LOL. The days of old are long gone. My first dream was in a place where you went in and about 8 girls if I remember right lined up in front of this young scout and the lady of the house told me to pick. I remember being nervous and unable to decide. She mustve picked up on this and said pick two. This is your first time isn't it. Wow. I picked this gorgeous redhead and this really fine brunette. My first threesome ever and it was amazing. I miss that scenario where there was a place you could chill out grab a drink feel completely safe and shoot the shit with the ladies. But that was many moons ago and now its pick 1 and hope for the best and hope the place isn't shady or a sting. Tonto![/QUOTE]