Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]To get proof it was activated. Anybody can just pick up a gift card and not activated.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Since she doesn't have the physical card but a picture I believe she needs to show proof of purchase to use the card. Either way, for whatever reason she wants the store receipt, I wouldn't send her anything else regardless if you think it can't be used for anything. And yes, you should have known better.

[QUOTE=BTBear;5170508]To get proof it was activated. Anybody can just pick up a gift card and not activated.[/QUOTE]Thanks BTBear, good point.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;5171070]Since she doesn't have the physical card but a picture I believe she needs to show proof of purchase to use the card. Either way, for whatever reason she wants the store receipt, I wouldn't send her anything else regardless if you think it can't be used for anything. And yes, you should have known better.[/QUOTE]Hooter, that is good point. However, she managed to drain that card in one quick purchase. Funny how she isn't asking for the receipt any longer LOL. Yes I should be ashamed of myself.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Check the balance and maybe you can spend your money before she does.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5171724]Hooter, that is good point. However, she managed to drain that card in one quick purchase. Funny how she isn't asking for the receipt any longer LOL. Yes I should be ashamed of myself.[/QUOTE]Post a link to her so nobody else get taken.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Well, looks like you got your scam cherry popped early on in your mongering. $50 isn't too bad. Could be worse. Just remember the #1 rule is, "Money doesn't exchange hands until the END of the session. ". If they insist or say, "That's how everyone does it. ", walk away. Even if the girl is naked in front of you, the cash does not need to make an appearance. There's a monger here who experienced a provider run out the door MID-BLOWJOB; she already got the money.

There are other very good reasons to only pay after besides avoiding getting scammed. But the point is, don't be afraid to walk away at any time.

Welcome to the board.

I moved this reply to this thread because my post will, I'm sure, cause some drama.

I don't believe everything a hooker says, I also don't believe everything a monger says.

Recently I was accused of getting a provider to "double" her rates, which was TOTAL bullshit. While shooting her pics and working on her website SHE said that a number of mongers have told her that she charged too little. It was HER decision about her new rates, NOT at my recommendation. The complaining monger was "grandfathered" at his old rate, I think he just got "butt hurt" because she wanted more to perform for him AND his wife. His post also proved that he isn't a mathematical giant. The increases were about 30% not the 100% that equals "double" the rate. So those of you who were quick to denounce me did so without the facts. BTW, she paid me for the work I did. I believe what I do has value more than a free piece of ass.

I constantly question myself about why I partipate in this web site. The answer is that I travel a fair amount and USASG is the most honest site around.

But there is a trend for the Cincinnati forum to become more and more misogynistic. How many times do you read how a woman is just a cum dumpster? If you trust that same woman enough to put your bare dick in her mouth where she could bite it off and just spit it on the floor, I would think they would give her some consideration because she doesn't. It's probably because her self esteem has been eroded down to nothing because that bare dick is what allows her to forget about how she earns her fix.

To finish this post out, the main point is that we all need to have our posts read with a little bit of skepticism.

Come on guys, ****** are people too.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5178582]I wouldn't be so quick to simply believe her. These chicks say lots of things that aren't true. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]

I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]What I don't get mongers will say they went to massage parlor then left extra happy but all they got was a hand job. To me leaving happy or extra happy is full service this is just me. I have in the past did leave realy happy yes it wasnt that cheap but I did. I see the reviews in the past so I try thinking wow they got it all then I get there just diy or a hand job with no touching lady. So I stopped going a while ago. Anyway everyone have a good one be safe out there.

There's about a million ways to say this, different strokes for different folks seems apt.

The question is, why do you care? Don't read it if it offends you.

But at least I know that expecting you to learn from this is a complete waste of time.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]I'm the last person that's going to spend AMP money 'because she's attractive' or whatever some of these people tell themselves, and generally find it a waste of time anymore, but you can easily still see why others would prefer AMPs.

You say the women are 50, but you're picking up girls in uph who are in thier 30's but have aged themselves to look 50 anyway. Then there's the various other things that come with every other type of provider. Drugs, lying for no reason some times, drama, theft, habit out of control, ECT. Then with advertised providers you have the ghosting in addition to all of the above. Yes they are willing to do way more for way less, but it comes with big caveats now days. In 2017 and earlier you could easily find a 20 buck girl that was TGTBT- young, looked young, took care you for a long time and personality not zombie fiend. Haven't seen that in ages, and with the advertisers being the same low quality but with shitty Instagram filters, it's pretty easy to see why some guys are okay getting the pp touched by a clean (if nothing else) Asian lady.

[QUOTE=HighLifeMan;5185832]What I don't get mongers will say they went to massage parlor then left extra happy but all they got was a hand job. To me leaving happy or extra happy is full service this is just me. I have in the past did leave realy happy yes it wasnt that cheap but I did. I see the reviews in the past so I try thinking wow they got it all then I get there just diy or a hand job with no touching lady. So I stopped going a while ago. Anyway everyone have a good one be safe out there.[/QUOTE]I must agree with Highlife and Lenny.

The AMP Scene is interesting. The average place gives a mediocre massage and paying 80-100 for a massage and HJ does seem silly. Don't get me wrong I have done plenty and as I look back it was silly. I find AMP's now only worth it if there is FS which you can get at 3 places maybe more (IDK) the FS donation is around $$ OTD which again becomes interesting. THe Asian hotels are 160 which is less and the escorts are also in the 160 range. So this again comes back to what is the real choice here.

I have come to find that after all the choices and hazzards around the real decision comes down to.

1) What location do I find comfortable (setting).

2) What level of hygiene.

3) Do I enjoy the persons company.

There are a couple of Massue that I enjoy, I am comfortable at the location and the hygiene is great to throughly enjoy the experience and I know them. They are the only AMP I would visit and I must get everything, otherwise I might as well go to Nani Massage and get a really good masasge.

[QUOTE=NineIncher;5168352]Didn't realize she is so huge, on top of her robbing mongers. No thanks. Glad I never booked anything with her.[/QUOTE]Your pm inbox is full bro.

If you have been around awhile you should realize what your getting Weather its a walker a Ad you answered or a AMP to jackoff to. A lot of you assume what I do and how I do it. Believe me if I want a provider I will pay for it. I got away from the dope fiend providers They are out there just answer Those ads. I have stated before almost all of them were or are streetwalkers with a ad. You can still find good looking girls walking the streets and they are in their early 20's. A lot of dudes on here pay 150 to 200 for the same girl I'm doing for 40 to 60. That's amazing isn't it. I read all the reports almost daily. The AMP section I still don't get. It doesn't bother me but I look for more bang for the buck. AND I MEAN BANG! Not jack off or happy ending. I have a happier ending getting a BBBJ, BBFS or keeping the money in my pocket. And keep on looking. Next!! LOL Hint facebook is full of women willing to receive pay for play.