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NineGuy919 Nevermind. I just saw your other post that reported the number at 150. In other words is it correct to assume that all 11 that went to the FC did so at the first M&G? I guess you must have a strong Game or attractive enough or both!
[QUOTE=Lebruno;3246395]Impressive. Your success rate is over 73%. So what was your average spend per SB. Especially among those that agreed to go to the FC.[/QUOTE]
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NineGuy919 says he is 33 which is a big positive reason for a great success rate. As us hunters get older, our success rate decreases and our bennies going out increases.
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[QUOTE=NineGuy919;3245358] I have fucked 11 out of 15 ladies I have seen. Only one required protection and the agesture range from 18 to 24. One 27 year old and a 37 year old. I am 33 years old so I am having the time of my life. BTW the 27 year old might be the one I have been looking for and she is one who hasn't slept with me yet but I am postponing our second date because if the sex is as good as she claims, I might be giving up the buffet I have been feasting from.[/QUOTE]Sounds lovely -maybe too lovely. Assuming you are not Brad Pitt and your successes are true I suspect you have encountered the new wave of BP escapees. SA is becoming the new BP. Escorts are pretty easy to nail. I have found that legit SBs are nut cases about condoms. Those who are not are suspect.
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Easy to skew the sample.
If you work the messaging correctly, you can get 90% hit rate. Basically get it to the point of coffee is just to make sure you are both who was pictured, then off to bang.
I don't have time to waste on M&Gs that arent a litmus test.
Only one girl who agreed to lunch and a fuck fest backed out -- she was less than half my age -- but after some making out back at her place, she was ready to get naked, except she was worried her room mate might come home.
I've met a few early on in this experiment that I would meet for coffee -- they were all college gals who were getting their heads around getting naked with someone who could be their dad's friend -- or boss. But I knew those were just coffee, but have since given up on such time wasters.
On my out of town trips, a couple of times the ladies were running late due to work or traffic and just told me to order room service.
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Agree and disagree
[QUOTE=FredMoore;3248017] Escorts are pretty easy to nail.[/QUOTE]True enough. Putting a hard time limit or certain language are the major red flags -- or as one gal put it "I usually get $500 for 2 hours with a client". SB my ass.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;3248017] I have found that legit SBs are nut cases about condoms. Those who are not are suspect.[/QUOTE]Disagree here. Girls who aren't getting plowed by 5 different guys a week tend to think of it more like the weekend hook up or being with a BF. I can think of only one of the SBs with a 9-5 and a college degree that I've met insisted on a condom (not to say I didn't). That is not to say they are not a low volume UTR, but I tend to find the ones taht are obvious UTRs tend to be more strict about protection.
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[QUOTE=FredMoore;3248017]Sounds lovely -maybe too lovely. Assuming you are not Brad Pitt and your successes are true I suspect you have encountered the new wave of BP escapees. SA is becoming the new BP. Escorts are pretty easy to nail. I have found that legit SBs are nut cases about condoms. Those who are not are suspect.[/QUOTE]I have found the opposite, BP girls very into condoms, SA girls not so much.
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I agree. Escorts and UTRs are business like about condoms. It's part of the required Personal Protective Equipment for their job. Like hard hats, safety glasses and steel toed shoes to a construction worker.
The "girl next door" SB doesn't like to think she is a pro and is less likely to sleep with as many guys and often isn't as concerned with condoms.
I would never go without a condom with a true escorts, but I would consider it with an SB I've seen for a while and have developed a level of trust with.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3248710]I have found the opposite, BP girls very into condoms, SA girls not so much.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3249311]I agree. Escorts and UTRs are business like about condoms. It's part of the required Personal Protective Equipment for their job. Like hard hats, safety glasses and steel toed shoes to a construction worker.
The "girl next door" SB doesn't like to think she is a pro and is less likely to sleep with as many guys and often isn't as concerned with condoms.
I would never go without a condom with a true escorts, but I would consider it with an SB I've seen for a while and have developed a level of trust with.[/QUOTE]Consider it, but keep in mind that she might still have some other partners and even if not, she could still be carrying something she is asymptomatic for like Chlamydia or HPV. I think there's a direct relationship between girls that are less aware of such things and those that are willing to go bare.
I'm not saying no to the concept. Just be fully aware of the consequences.
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[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3249311]I agree. Escorts and UTRs are business like about condoms. It's part of the required Personal Protective Equipment for their job. Like hard hats, safety glasses and steel toed shoes to a construction worker. The "girl next door" SB doesn't like to think she is a pro and is less likely to sleep with as many guys and often isn't as concerned with condoms. I would never go without a condom with a true escorts, but I would consider it with an SB I've seen for a while and have developed a level of trust with.[/QUOTE]I don't have much experience with escorts, just civy dating, SBs, and strippers (and interesting combinations thereof), but my observation has been inline with what you said, I usually associate greater diligence about protection with the more UTR type, strippers, etc. Any category of girls for whom it's not their first rodeo.
SBs seem largely willing to go raw as long as their is a "connection". By that I mean sometimes I meet a girl, there's a physical attraction so we know we're going to fuck but we don't necessarily otherwise like each other's company. In those cases she might be thinking more "caution" and ask for a condom. The ones that seem to be trying to put their best food forward (realizing they are competing for my time with other SBs, or pining for a longer term arrangement, or whatever the reason) seem reluctant to do anything that would make it anything other than a stellar experience that will leave me wanting to see them again. Maybe they want me to wrap up but they don't want to say anything and leave a bad impression?
Most women I've known seem less worried about STDs than the idea of getting randomly impregnated, leaving them with medical expenses and / or emotional dilemmas or even ongoing financial woes of raising a kid alone. SBs generally assume an SD would be an excellent provider, should she accidentally get knocked up, so the issue of protection is less important. At least that's been my experience. My reasoning for their lack of protection demands might be wrong, but it seems like a lot of these girls are almost trying to get pregnant by me, or at least don't care.
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Central VA SB
Recently joined SA. SeekingArrangements and hardly found few members around central VA but this blog messages sounds like there are plenty. Any body has inputs and thought how find SB?
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[QUOTE=CrazySpice;3251368]Recently joined SA. SeekingArrangements and hardly found few members around central VA but this blog messages sounds like there are plenty. Any body has inputs and thought how find SB?[/QUOTE]Most of the guys on this thread probably aren't local to your area. Most contributors here are scattered around the country. For some reason this is where the sb first started and was carried on. My suggestion would be set your search for 100 miles and see what that does for ya. There is also NoVa thread that might help some.
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[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3250499]Consider it, but keep in mind that she might still have some other partners and even if not, she could still be carrying something she is asymptomatic for like Chlamydia or HPV. I think there's a direct relationship between girls that are less aware of such things and those that are willing to go bare.
I'm not saying no to the concept. Just be fully aware of the consequences.[/QUOTE]You should definitely ask your SB if she's had the immunization against HPV (aka Gardisil). This has been recommended for young people (starting as young as 10 I think), male and female, for the past several years. Some people / states are against it for moral / political reasons, but it reduces the rate of cervical cancer (caused by HPV) dramatically. The added benefit is males can get HPV infected from DATY, resulting in later head / neck cancer, and this should go away with time and penetration of immunization into the sexually active population. Given when the shot was introduced, it is likely the oldest women who have immunity could be in their early 30's.
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Causing GPS
Shopping Amazon for a V-day gift for the SO, for some reason among the 'Your Featured Recommendations' at the bottom of the screen was this book (romance novel): "The Billionaire's Virgin". I click the sample, and in italics at the top of the page is Sugar Babies. Hmm, is Amazon psychic?? Reading the excerpt, I can see why some girls on SA have GPS.
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Hotel woes
Getting a hotel w / o leaving a paper trail for the SO to find is tough. I thought I had a solution w / a local midprice chain. Their website said they would accept a $100 cash deposit or a credit card, so I booked it for the FC (giving a number for a prepaid debit card) and they even gave me early 1 pm check-in. Great b / c the baby in question, InlandRed I'll post separately about, is married and has to leave for home by 4 pm. That much more time together. When I get to the no-tell, however, not only do they want that cash deposit, they want the room charge in cash up front. I didn't take that into account and had only the room charge (essentially the same as the deposit) and the sugar. I proposed using a debit card, which they would do, but they wouldn't take a prepaid, it had to be a debit card w / my name on it. Damn! I stole $100 from the sugar and got the room. Then they require making a copy of my DL so they can know they are only giving the deposit back to the right person. Needless to say, I booked the room under a sugar name (a slight misspelling of my real name, and a different address totally), relying on the fact that the clerk only glanced at my DL to verify the picture was me and the name was about right. However, their having my real DL wasn't making me happy. On departing I asked if they would shred it b / c of concerns about identity theft.
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I've met enough SB to understand how full of shit they are. After we meet and fuck and come to an arrangement they lie to me and say I only want to see you. Why do they play these games. Be honest if you want to see several other SD. I would see someone and be asked why are you still on the website if we fucked and have an arrangement, I don't want to see guys that see multiple people. My last sb I met I liked so much actually quit the website same day and she did the same, but 3 days later I got the feeling she's a bullshitter and reactived my membership to see her account restored and back online. Yes I let this one hurt me because I was dumb and trusted her and felt something that could be long term. She even was like you don't need to pay me every time and wow was I stupid.
I think the sb are not for me. I don't like get caught up with emotions to get played and hurt. At least with pros we know what's up. I just had to vent. Monger out.