"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3240768]AMEX has a variety of pre-paid card options. You can get a main card (has to be in true name as they enforce know your customer (KYC)) regs. You can then get subordinate cards in your baby's name, and easily pass money down. The card is usable at ATMs.

I haven't bothered to check if the card gets added to your credit history or not. So, it may not be ideal in situations where you're worried about a SO.[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about the AMEX bluebird card. It doesn't show up on your credit report. It allows you to add $2000 at Walmart cash register, I think. You are able to move money from your card to a sub card. I use this for my kids allowance. It really is instantaneous. I'm not sure if there is a limit on transfers. Also there is very little cost for the card.

[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3240667]Some old guy paying for an apt for once a month webcam show. She is lying. It is what it is. Lies. She is f*c*ing one or more guys to get that apt, furniture, electronics, etc. She just made up a fairytale to keep you around which is cool if you are fine with it. I thought many times, I was the only guy a sb was f*c*ing and I believed the sb. Guess what? They were all lying and all f*c*ing other guys.[/QUOTE]Peace my brother Mercutio. I am touched by your concern for me, but I'm a big boy now. As I said, I'm fine with it as long as I get to see her when I want for as long as I want, for little to no sugar. If other guys are picking up my tab, I'm going to let them.

And so, goodnight.

Scott.

I've been trying something lately for those model-beautiful girls who you can't get to reply to your messages, or who do with crap about how much other guys are offering them. I've done this several times, w / girls from 21-35. There's a risk, though. You have to go out on a limb and offer something other than $ - connection / feelings. My experience is that women, generally, suck this stuff up. I think it plays into their need to see themselves not as gals ready to flatback it for the highest bidder, even if they do want a lot of dough.

Now, if you're a fuck / forget / repeat kinda guy, you're just going to have to act enough to get through the first FC trip. For me, I am actually looking for a connection w / SBs, not a romance, but something that is more substantial than a shallow physical interaction (not that there's anything wrong with that, I just know it doesn't work well for me personally). I was shocked the first time I tried this and the ice just melted. Some here (JZLizard among others) often say that you have to have some game to succeed in the bowl. I would never have thought that this was part of my 'game', but I guess practice makes perfect.

I won't give out my specific phraseology, though a PM might sway me. I could even share profiles it worked on so you can find similar in your town.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3241054]Some here (JZLizard among others) often say that you have to have some game to succeed in the bowl.[/QUOTE]I'm of the opinion that game helps tremendously -- I don't know that I could say it's required to succeed, because that gets into subjective discussions about what is meant by "succeed". If someone is simply out to get laid, there are a number of ways to do it in the bowl: Spending lots of money will accomplish that, or being in the right place at the right time will accomplish that, or having well developed game will accomplish that.

If anyone out there is doing all three, let us know. That's not me. My issue is that I don't like to spend lots of money, and my situation with my SO rarely allows me the luxury of being able to be in the right place at the right time, so in order to maximize the quality and quantity of pussy I get within the confines of those two constraints, I need to strive for triple A game in order to get the type of girls I want.

[QUOTE=CopperFool;3240979]I think you are talking about the AMEX bluebird card. It doesn't show up on your credit report. It allows you to add $2000 at Walmart cash register, I think. You are able to move money from your card to a sub card. I use this for my kids allowance. It really is instantaneous. I'm not sure if there is a limit on transfers. Also there is very little cost for the card.[/QUOTE]OK, wait- help me understand. I have to give my name and real I'd to get this AMEX blue card, Then I set up sub cards off of that or under it? So how do I stay anonymous? The card has a direct link back to my real I'd, no? Not exactly what I want to do.

So it sounds like there is not a product available (Prepaid Card) that I can put money on (sometimes using a CC), girl can take cash out of it without purchases and I can stay anonymous.

It's just common sense and facts. It's not being jaded. And how am I ruining experiences? I am saying these girls lie and make up stories like its a Harry Potter book. And most of these girls were protesting yesterday for women's rights. And they lie and manipulate 10 x more than Trump on his worst day.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3240886]You sound kind of jaded. Don't let your experience taint everyone else's.

I agree that most SB's will play multiple guys.

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[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3241544]It's just common sense and facts. It's not being jaded. And how am I ruining experiences? I am saying these girls lie and make up stories like its a Harry Potter book. And most of these girls were protesting yesterday for women's rights. And they lie and manipulate 10 x more than Trump on his worst day.[/QUOTE]Let's just say that you don't have a statistically significant sample of all the SBs on SA. You did have bad experiences. I've had them too. Cash and dash. Threatening husbands, threatening SBs. Some of this I might have envisioned, some hit me like a tornado. I don't think broad generalizations based on flimsy facts advance the board.

Just warning you guys. Young girls are fun but there is a price in the end in one way or another.

Good Hunting.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3241637]Let's just say that you don't have a statistically significant sample of all the SBs on SA. You did have bad experiences. I've had them too. Cash and dash. Threatening husbands, threatening SBs. Some of this I might have envisioned, some hit me like a tornado. I don't think broad generalizations based on flimsy facts advance the board.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3241499]OK, wait- help me understand. I have to give my name and real I'd to get this AMEX blue card, Then I set up sub cards off of that or under it? So how do I stay anonymous? The card has a direct link back to my real I'd, no? Not exactly what I want to do.

So it sounds like there is not a product available (Prepaid Card) that I can put money on (sometimes using a CC), girl can take cash out of it without purchases and I can stay anonymous.[/QUOTE]That's why cash is king.

Thanks for the warning and you are correct that there are clear risks we need to be aware of. I've had several very good long term experiences with younger women. It can be hard to find, but if you go into with the attitude that "all women are bitches", that is exactly what you will find.

It takes work to sort through all of the fakes, flakes, scammers, crazies and GPS. There are good women, but they are in the minority. Just like there are some good guys, but we are in the minority too.

Everyone is looking for something different. I don't judge what other people are looking for. Just know you get what you set your line for.

[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3241762]Just warning you guys. Young girls are fun but there is a price in the end in one way or another.

Good Hunting.[/QUOTE]

Kaiku might be just the solution you are looking for. It offers free cash withdrawals at 55000 ATM's provided a min of 750 deposited each month. Otherwise $3 monthly fee which is still Ok. If you would like to maintain anonymity then you could open the card in her name and try depositing funds into the card when needed.

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3240251]OK, so I have a baby and when we meet I help her out with tuition, books, whatever. But it tends to be in the form of greenbacks.

So the other day I was talking with her about gift cards and she mentioned frustration with some she had gotten during the holidays. Seems some only worked as a debit card for purchases and she wanted to turn them into cash.

Since I had been thinking of giving her something a little extra, or perhaps changing up the way I helped her out, I looked into gift cards the other day. Stood there for 20-minutes in the Rite Aid looking at the prepaid MasterCards, Visas and AmEx cards and for the life of me could not tell if any of them allowed the bearer to exchange the card for cash or get cash off of it? A few said no cash back option in the fine print.

Maybe this isn't a possibility since, if one could do that then it might be a way to launder money and thus forbidden by Gubmint rules?

Anyway, does anyone know if there is a product out there that allows cash withdrawals from the card? Is there a fee?[/QUOTE]

Well gentlemen, I don't post here often, but it's been a rough couple of weeks. In the last two weeks my pot sb's have had three deaths in the family, one car wreck, and the always present crashed phone. What's a SD to do.

I would say they were all lying but I am not allowed to say that because I am a Debbie Downer. A POT told me her bank account was hacked (and closed) today and had to cancel our M&g but she said for the last two weeks she had zero money. What does it matter if your bank account is closed if you didn't have any money, LOL?

[QUOTE=Playa12;3244064]Well gentlemen, I don't post here often, but it's been a rough couple of weeks. In the last two weeks my pot sb's have had three deaths in the family, one car wreck, and the always present crashed phone. What's a SD to do.[/QUOTE]

Hello, my fellow mangers! Because of this thread in Richmond I have gotten involved with SA and sugar babies. This shit is crazy. I think I like better then pros! But it cost so much more. I have already met 6 people in under two months and fucked 5 of them, what has shocked me the most is 4 out of the 5 would have preferred I went raw! After getting use to Pros and using condiments it's what I'm comfortable with. College girls really hot are very passionate and just want it raw. I have met girls from 18 to 37, but didn't sleep with the 37 yr old, she was looking for love.

Anyway I told The girls I like condiments because they help me last longer, but it's been damn tempting. The membership is high but the amount of strange you can get is crazy! I haven't found one yet to say okay I'm going to see you regularly and this is your allowance. I like different pussy too much to settle. I'm curious if you gentle mangers have experienced the same shock as me.

[QUOTE=Playa12;3244064]Well gentlemen, I don't post here often, but it's been a rough couple of weeks. In the last two weeks my pot sb's have had three deaths in the family, one car wreck, and the always present crashed phone. What's a SD to do.[/QUOTE]No way any insurance company should issue a car policy to a SB and / or family, the number of crashes is astronomical.