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[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Explain what you are saying here.
You have been back, seen all the girls and know that for a fact AMY has not returned? Or you just called? And who is the "Unlike some here".[/QUOTE]
I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV
[QUOTE=MoonView]I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV[/QUOTE]
You didnt make yourself clear at all, actually it was a pretty vague statement.
So you are saying you are taking a shot at someone or some people but won't come right out and say who or what you are accusing them of posting that was NOT factual.
Been to MT many times. I like the place, never a bad experience. I don't know Amy, so I couldn't tell you one way or the other, girls often change their names frequently. I know a spa where the girls do not change, just every 90 days or the boss makes them pick new ones.
The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]You didn't make yourself clear....[/QUOTE]
Mnv said that he called and was told that Amy left and will not be returning. This appears to be in direct contradiction to what MT said about her being back for some time. There are plenty of people on this board who make statements not based on fact. Mnv's assessment of that fact was accurate and not in need of remedy.
Frankly, $.4 is too much for FS. MT should recognize this fact and make sure his staff understands that to continue to raise prices and reduce services will cost the house and the therapist in the long run. We are in a deep recession. To raise tip prices by 40% overnight during a recession is ridiculous. Further, to say that $.4 is the going rate or is lower than average is, in fact, a lie. There will be a day when $.4 will be the going rate. But even if we were in double digit inflation, it wouldn't be any time soon.
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD
[QUOTE=Alpha D]
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD[/QUOTE]
Actual he did not make it clear who he was saying was making posts that were not factual. That is what I was requesting clarification on, not AMY's current status.
If he does not care to clarify it then he should not be making any such accusations, I am simply asking for him (he who posts based on FACT) to FACTLY state who he was refering to posting absent facts.
I am not trying to start any arguements here, I want to know who he was refering to, simple as that. Why? Because it seemed as though it was directed at me. So if you can answer for him then do so, if not, I will wait for him to respond.
IF someone wants to say someone else is posting something that is false, he should be man enough to say it, identify the party he is talking to/about and what he believes is inaccurate.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Because it seemed as though it was directed at me.[/QUOTE]
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD
I feel the same way. I did not think MV was finger pointing.
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen much intel on Castle Spa, so figured I would TOFTT and give it a try. The entrance is not much, but the upstairs is very nice and clean. I drew Coco and she came in looking very fine. Off to the TS and she seemed to clean all the right spots quite a bit, and things were looking up. Back to the room and the the massage began. I don't think I have been rubbed repeatedly in the same spots as Coco did throughout the massage. She probably worked my arms at least 5 times, and she made sure she kept any roaming totally away.
She kept saying to be a good boy, and kept my hands by my side throughout. She probably massaged for at least 40 minutes. Then it sounded like she shed some clothing, and she began a rubbing massage on my lower legs and back. But I noticed it was very rough. She had on some type of rough courset or something that was pretty brutal on the skin. She asked for the flip, and she immediately went to a HE with denial of any roaming at all of any type.
Overall, she is a sexy lady, but her technique leaves a great deal to be desired, and she has basically no massage skills beyond rubbing the same spots repeatedly.
I would not return to this one. So I would put this one down as TOFTT.
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD[/QUOTE]
Exactly right and well said AD!
Regards,
MnV
[QUOTE=Magical Touch]The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.[/QUOTE]
Amy was a fav of mine and a few others here, hope she really does come back to NoVA. In any event, good of you to clear this up.
MnV
[QUOTE=Cranberries]Is Amy at MT the same Amy from HWC?[/QUOTE]
Cberry,
Nope, but the one at HWC was nice too, I remember her well till all the busts started to happen and they finally closed down. She was a cutie!!
MnV
[QUOTE=Alpha D]BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
AD[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I read more into it then was intended, I took it as directed at me because it was a direct response to my post, and no I am not in the habit of posting lies. I have only posted what my experiences have been or have taught me. As always YMMV.
I personally tend to stay clear of generalized statements/comments like that for the very reason that I do not want anyone to unintentionally take offense.
Anyway looks like a beautiful day to visit an AMP..
Logged in the check the boards and there are two pages of y'all talking about who said what when and who is lying, and who is not and who is talking about who is lying, and whom someone actually meant was saying what and so on. Informative, I suppose, but....but now I am wondering which AMP is "MT"? There is lots of magic on CL, so it might be any of four places. PM with the name? I will go, enjoy (or not) and give fresh report.
Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg
...is exactly right. I still wonder how MT stays open when all the others have been raided and caused untold grief to the guys trapped inside at the time.
Still too dangerous for me anyway but everyone can pick their own peril.
JJ
[QUOTE=BigTigger]Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Magical Touch]
You have no reason to be unhappy. If you didn't like the service then guys, AGAIN talk to management right there and don't wait until you leave or write here on this board. We do our best to help you guys. What you said never happened. Again if you guys are unhappy in any way then let management know right there![/QUOTE]
The problem is that it just kills the mood. So we have our session cut short, and we come to you to complain. What are you going to do, force the girl to come back in and give the full time? By that point we already see that the girl isn't into it, so the experience is no longer pleasant for us.
[QUOTE=Sashimi]And over the years I have always wondered what was up with Sleazebum's continued and consistant rants against frequenting PWC establishments. The only reason I could come up with is that he may have once been an innocent victim of PWC justice.[/QUOTE]
I think it is completely understandable. MT is the exception in PWC, not the rule. Look at the places that have been raided, some have been raided like a dozen times, others shut down after being raided a few times. HWC shut down after a few raids. Kinja is shut down. Sakura is still open, uses another name now, but seems to be raided regularly. Soo Goung has been raided and changed names. YST has been raided a few times and changed names a few times. A Plus was raided. Eva has been raided and was shut down for awhile. Sleazebum doesn't want to roll those dice, and I can't blame him.
I went there a long time ago, so I can't say if it has gotten better. I sometimes give a place a second chance. Of those times: TS was mechanical and Massage was always short(like 15 to 20 mins.). The ONLY thing good was a better than standard finish. But after many raids(at other places), I will not venture into PWC. No way, no how. The bible belt has too much influence in this area.
Lovejugs
YST rings a bell.if I recall,Kinja going out of business was related to the poor condition of its facility?place was always closed when I went there.
I agree to try and be more friendly to you guys on this board. After all the purpose of this is to create a report that benefits all of us. Thanks guys for understanding.
About "talking to management" at the time. I can't say exactly what will happen except that we will do our best to handle each one of you and your concerns on a "case by case" basis. Sorry that I can't make blanket statements regarding this.
Even though PWC is like it is right now I want you guys to still feel comfortable and relax when and if you come over. Thanks guys for keeping us busy; even in times like this.
OK, now that I know WHERE MT is, I will NOT TOFTT.
As a out of towner - I appreciate you all posting, so I can know which places are hot, and alternatively where the heat is on, so to speak.
I can post as to the first -but locals know best on the second
[QUOTE=Meetmehalfway6]First time poster. Went to Papaya this morning for a little relaxation. After giving mamasan the standard for a half hour, good looking older woman came in for my massage. She wasn't too talkative, didn't get a name. Gave her a standard Nova tip ($20, right?) prior to her beginning. TS is not in service, so that was out of the question. No lotion, no roaming, no nothing. After the flip I expected the fun to begin. Nothing. She kept commenting how the half hour was over after 20 minutes. I told her I didn't think so. After the 30 minutes really ended and she made no attempt at a finish, I left. What gives?[/QUOTE]I think you answered your own question there.
You might want to try to RTFF a bit.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]...is exactly right. I still wonder how MT stays open when all the others have been raided and caused untold grief to the guys trapped inside at the time.
Still too dangerous for me anyway but everyone can pick their own peril.
JJ[/QUOTE]If MT was afraid of suffering a fate similar to that of other PWC establishments, I don't think its proprietor would be posting here, and the few other boards on which posts appear under that name. (And watching one of the loudmouths on a NYC-area centric board go after it had its moments.)
The passing thought first:
If MT and other places truly want to know early and often whether the clientel is happy with their services, then the mammasan needs to be the last person to see a client before he leaves. This was the practice at Green in DC and is the practice in a couple of places across NoVA. There are few places (I can think of only one at the present) where the lack of mammasan was not an issue. Rather than MT's proprieter telling us to ask for the management if we are not happy, a more proactive approach would offer opportunistic praise as well as constructive criticism. Having to ask for the mammasan after receiving poor service is the last thing on my mind and unless I feel especially empathetic to the establishment, I probably won't bother to ask for the management. In short, proactive approach would give good feedback on both sides of the coin.
Scoop:
The bust that is rumored to be coming to the NoVA AMPs is apparently imminent. Those AMPs who have no massage licenses or are using unlicensed therapists or whose therapists are lacking a good green card are at risk. Not telling you to avoid your favorite providers, but be aware of the reasons for a crack down and be a smart shopper. I have an acquaintance in the area that has his ear to the ground. Be safe out there.
AD
Thanks, MT. Note Guitarman1's post carefully. Some guys get off on the looks of the girl, and other guys (like me) get off on the mood. As soon as the girl starts upselling, the mood is completely ruined for me. If the girl is really good, I will tip more without being asked. If the girl asks for more, nicely, AFTER the session, I may give it -- if the service was good. If the girl starts negotiating right at the beginning, that wrecks everything. If you go to a restaurant for a nice dinner, do you want the waiter to ask about the tip BEFORE taking your order? Would that affect the enjoyment of your dinner?
I'm sure that some of the girls do the upsell in advance because they worry that the guy will be cheap. Maybe they've been burned before. I'm sorry about that, but that's not my fault so don't penalize me for it. That's just one of the risks of being in a service-oriented business. Some customers will be jerks.
I appreciate your willingness to talk, but I'm not going to talk to the mamasan about anything, ever. I just don't have the time and I don't need the headache. If the girl is bad, I'm just going to go somewhere else the next time. So far that's been a good strategy. I switch places maybe once a year.
[QUOTE=Magical Touch]I agree to try and be more friendly to you guys on this board. After all the purpose of this is to create a report that benefits all of us. Thanks guys for understanding.
About "talking to management" at the time. I can't say exactly what will happen except that we will do our best to handle each one of you and your concerns on a "case by case" basis. Sorry that I can't make blanket statements regarding this.
Even though PWC is like it is right now I want you guys to still feel comfortable and relax when and if you come over. Thanks guys for keeping us busy; even in times like this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Max Beelyun]
I'm sure that some of the girls do the upsell in advance because they worry that the guy will be cheap. Maybe they've been burned before. I'm sorry about that, but that's not my fault so don't penalize me for it. .[/QUOTE]
Actually by requiring the tip 1st she is protecting HER interest in the service, I perfer to tip after but have no problem with a girl asking me for the tip 1st if we have NOT seen each other before. Trust is to be earned, not given freely, and as a hobbiest/monger you should know we have some shady guys in the hobby who have not tipped or under tipped. Why should SHE be penalized for it.
Outside of AMPs, SW, Escorts, Strippers, what ever YOU PAY 1ST, none of them provide their services and collect after. Sometimes you get burned giving an Escort or SW their fee 1st and get none or little of the expected service. But that is the risk WE the hobbiest take, why do people continue to think it is ok for the AMP girl to assume all the risk?
After your 1st visit, talk to your provider say, "Hey, I am not going to cheat you, I like you and will take care of you, but I do not like stopping in the middle of the experience to do business" most of them will understand and just ask that you be an honest guy and really take care of them.
Remember you are not "entitled" to anything in that room but a massage, anything else that happens is up to the girl and it is our responsibility to make them happy to provide it. I suggest with a few exceptions that if you receive bad service the hobbiest is partly or mostly to blame, he did something wrong no matter how small a thing to change the girls mood/attitude. She does not have to do anything but give you a massage and that is it, some of us need to remember that, you have to work the girl to get the extras you want. That is how it was back in the day when I started, too many guys these days do not want to put forth the effort and want everything automatically delivered.
Why do you think YMMV always applies to this hobby? Because on any given day any given girl may or may not provide the service you want. It is YOUR game that determines the outcome. If you on it, you will be happy. If you are not, do not blame the girl.
/End Rant.
BB
It seems like I've gotten better service when I leave the tip on the table.
The gorls seem to be more relaxed and friendly while they work.
Jus sayin
This has been a great discussion, and I'm not joking about that either. But now, back to the reviews/reports my fellow mongers........ pls
BigTigg
To each is own. Leave the money on the table in plain view under your cell phone and keys.. If she can't get the hint, then she is too stupid to get you off. To me I see AMPS different then I do an escort or SW. When you go to an AMP you're going for the sensual service. When you go to a SW or an escort you're just looking to bust a nut. I don't want to sound racist, but the asian will work work harder to get that nicer tip then most escorts.
[QUOTE=Jim Rob]To me I see AMPS different then I do an escort or SW. When you go to an AMP you're going for the sensual service. When you go to a SW or an escort you're just looking to bust a nut. [/QUOTE]
I agree, a FS AMP is generally always better then a SW, although many here have sampled some gems (SW and Escorts), but the service while maybe better at an AMP, it is basically the same service. As such providers who require payment up front are not in the wrong.
Once you have an established client/provider trust, you should and can discuss your options and agree when business will be conducted.
For those suggesting leaving the tip out 1st, this is fine, I have no problem with it, but it can cause you to TOFTT when you do not mean to. Escorts usually instruct the client to put the tip in a certain place on arrival, so she does not have to "ask for it". If you do this at an AMP on a 1st time visit with a girl who you do not yet know what service she is going to agree to, you may lose that tip. But it is considered a show of faith and is usually rewarded. I too sometimes use this method if I feel uneasy about it when she comes to the room, I tell her, "Some or all of this is for you, if I recieve great service it will all be yours, if the service does not quite meet my expectations I may take some back". It serves as an incentive for them to put forth their best effort.
Long time mongers I offer a parting thought, if you disagree thats fine, I won't argue my point.
WE, yes WE have at least partial responsibility for the new, sometimes "younger" mongers in the game who mistreat, under tip, or leave no tip for the girls. We have to take extra care of them by treating them well and with respect and lastly providing a fare to generous tip. Our efforts should include our desire to make up for any bad experiences they have had with other people. BECAUSE we share information on this site and others that have increased the number of people who find our spots, those guys we do not really know their temperment or how they will tip or treat the girls. Guys who without sites like this and others or intel we provide may not have found our spots and done a disservice to the hobby. Since we freely share the information, with little or no regard to how someone may use it to soil the hobby, we bear responsibility for it.
Thanks for taking the time to read.
Take care
BB
went over to the spa by popeyes in sterling to see Maya and she is on vacation but new girl. I said no thanks today and went to a backup....good day. Saw nana. she used to be in Holiday in chantilly now here. She remembers me. No shower still at this place but they are building one. So hot towels to clean. oil massage that was more of a rub but nice. She has good technique. Sensual and a complete 60 minutes of massage. Very nice and left happy.
I prefer places with TS and would wait until they have it in place.
Do you, or your acquaintance with ears have any idea where, like what county? Last thing I need is my photo in papers. Thanks [Scoop:
The bust that is rumored to be coming to the NoVA AMPs is apparently imminent. Those AMPs who have no massage licenses or are using unlicensed therapists or whose therapists are lacking a good green card are at risk. Not telling you to avoid your favorite providers, but be aware of the reasons for a crack down and be a smart shopper. I have an acquaintance in the area that has his ear to the ground. Be safe out there.
AD[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hofi35]Do you, or your acquaintance with ears have any idea where, like what county? Last thing I need is my photo in papers. Thanks [Scoop:
The bust that is rumored to be coming to the NoVA AMPs is apparently imminent. Those AMPs who have no massage licenses or are using unlicensed therapists or whose therapists are lacking a good green card are at risk. Not telling you to avoid your favorite providers, but be aware of the reasons for a crack down and be a smart shopper. I have an acquaintance in the area that has his ear to the ground. Be safe out there.
AD[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Watch out those KAMPs in Sterling area who offer FS. I don't want to give names. But, I am sure you know which ones. Uncle Leo know more or less what is going on inside each AMP. They may ignore those who offer only HE, but surely not those offering FS.
Was in the NOVA area last week for a business trip and decided to check out Enliven for the first time. Easy to get too since it is off the beltway but kind of hidden. Asked for Amy based on some earlier reviews. Nice body great massage and great finish including roaming.
Will definitely go back there
[QUOTE=Fatpig]I prefer places with TS and would wait until they have it in place.[/QUOTE]It is my impression spas are moving away from TS, probably because it is then easier to pass themselves off as legit massage places. Do you know of places that opened up without a TS, and then put one in later?
Actually, at times it is the BEST part! If the place does not have a TS I leave and go on over to the FCCC for the rest.
JJ
[QUOTE=Eerock]It is my impression spas are moving away from TS, probably because it is then easier to pass themselves off as legit massage places. Do you know of places that opened up without a TS, and then put one in later?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hofi35]Do you, or your acquaintance with ears have any idea where, like what county? Last thing I need is my photo in papers. Thanks
[QUOTE=ALPHA D]Scoop:
The bust that is rumored to be coming to the NoVA AMPs is apparently imminent. Those AMPs who have no massage licenses or are using unlicensed therapists or whose therapists are lacking a good green card are at risk. Not telling you to avoid your favorite providers, but be aware of the reasons for a crack down and be a smart shopper. I have an acquaintance in the area that has his ear to the ground. Be safe out there.
AD[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Hofi,
I don't know what county or counties are involved. I'd suggest being careful in any NoVA AMP for a while.
AD
[QUOTE=Alpha D]Hofi,
I don't know what county or counties are involved. I'd suggest being careful in any NoVA AMP for a while.
AD[/QUOTE]
There really are only 3, well 4 if you count Arlington, which hardly anyone does. Safe to say if Sterling spas are at risk it would be Loudon. FF County trends and tends to be HJ only.
I'm a newbie who has been on these boards for a couple years but never posted.
Fairly younger guy but have been in the AMP scene for a few years from HWC in woodbrige, to a spa in DC above thee Eyebar, spa that was near the mci center and also one off of Backlick.
But this review is for SoftTouch.
Located in small business park, looked empty from outside so I parked around the corner rung the doorbell and was greeted by mamasan who took me into the room took the house fee of 60. And then escorted me into the TS. Mamasan was older lady but gave a pretty good And thorough TS.
She then escorted me back to the room andi was greeted by ANOTHER older asian lady by the name of Lucky. She proceeded to give decent massage on upper shoulders and fingers and then moved down to lower back and then moved the towel. Working on my upper legs and then a slight RJ whicch suprised me. Flipped with standard nova finish. For details PM me.
Looks: 4
Massage: 7
Others: 5
Watch out for the "upsell"