[QUOTE=OkTotti;4923476]You're that guy who loves to brag that strippers really like you.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? LOL.
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[QUOTE=OkTotti;4923476]You're that guy who loves to brag that strippers really like you.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? LOL.
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4923815]Is it just BBFS or CIP, CIA etc. ?[/QUOTE]Just BBFS. No CIP or CIA. CIM was available though.
[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4924044]I don't know about all that broski.
I'd say if you are from the ages 18-21. You definitely shouldn't come out of pocket for it.
Saying everyone pays for it is a blanket statement.
Yeah I've taken Hoes out to eat for dinner and a movie. But I watched that flick and ate that food.
If she gave me some and puss after that's just a plus. I enjoyed myself for that you feel me.
I know for a fact. Youngings into fitness. That are are good looking. Ain't scouring the forums for pussy they got to pay for.[/QUOTE]First. Scouring forums is not the only way to find a girl to pay.
Second. Cmon man. If the girl says to you lets skip the dinner and movie and go straight to desert, that's free. You know very well we would rather do that more than them. Otherwise she aint doing nothing without seeing you would do something for her whether its making her tummy full or seeing a movie together whether she cares to see it or not. Going out and about and doing something is $$ out of our pockets. Why we do that? To get the poonani. Which point of that do you not understand?
You don't think 18-21 good looking boys are paying for it? Just ask the parents who sons are away at college and send them money to survive a week or a month. Those are not only spending that on just getting by. Thats just one example. Don't be naive. Young office guys have spent a good part of their salaries on poon right before my eyes many times. For a vet to this hobby it sounds like you haven't been out much. Theres more to this hobby than these boards we banter on.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4924349]No those were all totals. I'm sure you can negotiate even lower for CIP. I wanted to get out quickly as it was very hot in there. Didn't press the issue.[/QUOTE]So she wanted a total of 500 for BBFS and cip? But you managed to get just bb for 330?
[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4924438]First. Scouring forums is not the only way to find a girl to pay.
Second. Cmon man. If the girl says to you lets skip the dinner and movie and go straight to desert, that's free. You know very well we would rather do that more than them. Otherwise she aint doing nothing without seeing you would do something for her whether its making her tummy full or seeing a movie together whether she cares to see it or not. Going out and about and doing something is $$ out of our pockets. Why we do that? To get the poonani. Which point of that do you not understand?
You don't think 18-21 good looking boys are paying for it? Just ask the parents who sons are away at college and send them money to survive a week or a month. Those are not only spending that on just getting by. Thats just one example. Don't be naive. Young office guys have spent a good part of their salaries on poon right before my eyes many times. For a vet to this hobby it sounds like you haven't been out much. Theres more to this hobby than these boards we banter on.[/QUOTE]OK. You got it kid.
You are paying a premium. These ladies are taxing you.
We get it. That's why we're on here.
But to act as if there aren't men out there that got pull, a mouthpiece and can talk them hoes out their draws.
I got homies / boys that look down on dudes that come out of pocket for poon. "you can't get no ass".
When you start to monetize everything. You cannot do that with romance or companionship. Yeah two things you really can't get at a massage parlor or a escort call girl. Because people do fall in love and lust and are attracted to each other.
"Everyone pays for it. One way or another".
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4924041][URL]https://adultsearch.com/new-york/queens/female-escorts/1952161[/URL]
Petite blond in her 20's. Big bolt ons. She quoted 500 for BBFS. Settled for an extra benj. 500 for CIP so I just CIM and left. Pics aren't real but she will send pic or video chat if you want to see how she looks. Apartment had no AC.[/QUOTE]Just reached out to her she wanted a 60 $ deposit via cash app. Didn't even say how much her rates were. I'm leaning on scam.
I only did half hour so I paid 220. She was a pushover when negotiating. See for yourself what she will drop down to.
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4924395]How much better or worse does she look IRL?[/QUOTE]I uploaded pic but her face is not great. 5/10. And not much of an ass. Huge tits and small waist.
She said she's Croatian.
No shade on the user who's posting about his time with her below, but I just got scammed out of a small deposit for a meeting with her today. YMMV I guess.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4924920]She said she's Croatian.[/QUOTE]Not bad thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4924880]I only did half hour so I paid 220. She was a pushover when negotiating. See for yourself what she will drop down to.[/QUOTE]When I googled the number for some reason she also advertising in San Antonio, TX.
Tried to book Polly at lear but she might be gone.
Been rough out there for me with my favorite MIA since covid. Bit of a dry spell. I managed to get bbanal from Cora of NYAW but no FS and no dfk. She is also a bit older and chunkier then I'd like. Was hoping for someone more my type and Polly looked perfect.
Anyone seen Karol Steele at Lear? I'm itching to find someone more attractive and less old.
[QUOTE=Hhobby795;4911027]I would like to know too how she is in session. I would definitely see her if she is at least an okay session.[/QUOTE]I saw her and she's good but yeah she'll rush you. Luckily I got in a good position where I knew I wasn't going to bust so I took my time and pounded the shit out of her. Blew outside I asked her for cip she wanted $200 which was insane. Also don't ask for BBFS I like to see what they'll say so I message them on one of my burner #s and she wanted $100 for BBFS. Contacted her on my other number later when I was ready went in without asking for BBFS and when she was about to suck me off ***** was trying to sneak a rubber she had in her mouth and was going to sneakily put it on. Luckily I noticed told her no rubber. She said no problem I thought she was going to get the rubber again when it came time for sex but she just got on and said she likes doing it the natural way.
[QUOTE=Zeyto;4925413]When I googled the number for some reason she also advertising in San Antonio, TX.[/QUOTE]Seems odd. The number isn't the same as the one I had called for her. I actually have a 917 number ends in 0150. And then she video chat from a 347 number. If anyone wants those numbers feel free to pm me. And I've lost a not so small deposit once. Posted about it here. Never will I give a deposit again.
[URL]https://www.craigserotica.com/queens-ny/female-companions-for-men/23788.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4924880]I only did half hour so I paid 220. She was a pushover when negotiating. See for yourself what she will drop down to.[/QUOTE]If you see her for hh how come she didn't ask you for a deposit? You said you met up with her in private apartment and what are the cross streets?
I did contact her and she quoted me 250 but with $80 deposit, but I told her I only pay cash and I never pay any girl with cash app or credit card, then she stopped texting me and she disappeared from our conversation. In addition, she told me she is in Hilton Hotel but you said you met her in apartment without AC.
[QUOTE=Pat2019;4925905]I did contact her and she quoted me 250 but with $80 deposit, but I told her I only pay cash and I never pay any girl with cash app or credit card, then she stopped texting me and she disappeared from our conversation. In addition, she told me she is in Hilton Hotel but you said you met her in apartment without AC.[/QUOTE]Yep, same thing happened to me. Negotiated her down on the deposit then once I sent it I didn't hear anything else from her.
[QUOTE=Pat2019;4925905]If you see her for hh how come she didn't ask you for a deposit? You said you met up with her in private apartment and what are the cross streets?
I did contact her and she quoted me 250 but with $80 deposit, but I told her I only pay cash and I never pay any girl with cash app or credit card, then she stopped texting me and she disappeared from our conversation. In addition, she told me she is in Hilton Hotel but you said you met her in apartment without AC.[/QUOTE]I believe its a scam bro when I texted her she didn't even say her rates she instantly went to 60 $ deposit via cash app beware guys.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4925782]Seems odd. The number isn't the same as the one I had called for her. I actually have a 917 number ends in 0150. And then she video chat from a 347 number. If anyone wants those numbers feel free to pm me. And I've lost a not so small deposit once. Posted about it here. Never will I give a deposit again.[/QUOTE]That 917 number isn't accepting messages or calls at the moment this is smelling fishy bro.
Fellas anybody asking for deposits, credit cards, cashapp and other made up crap is scams yall know this.
[QUOTE=Bxnative983;4926096]I believe its a scam bro when I texted her she didn't even say her rates she instantly went to 60 $ deposit via cash app beware guys.[/QUOTE]Anybody asking for deposits, credit cards, cashapp is fake and scams fellas yall know this.
[QUOTE=Bronson27;4926528]That 917 number isn't accepting messages or calls at the moment this is smelling fishy bro.[/QUOTE]Sorry not into fishy smell. I told you that first ad I posted is the wrong number. My mistake. I posted the right one. Call girls numbers not accepting messages or calls isn't anything new. These girls use burner apps and have lives outside of providing. Perhaps try her at a different day or time. I've contributed to this forum. And I appreciate all the other guys who do. If 5 guys decided to stop sharing this thread would be dead. Thanks for your 3 posts guy.
To the guys who lost deposits clearly you are new to the forum as well. Otherwise you would have read when it happened to me. 260 down the drain. Lesson learned. Be glad you guys learned it for cheap.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa516;4927541]Sorry not into fishy smell. I told you that first ad I posted is the wrong number. My mistake. I posted the right one. Call girls numbers not accepting messages or calls isn't anything new. These girls use burner apps and have lives outside of providing. Perhaps try her at a different day or time. I've contributed to this forum. And I appreciate all the other guys who do. If 5 guys decided to stop sharing this thread would be dead. Thanks for your 3 posts guy.
To the guys who lost deposits clearly you are new to the forum as well. Otherwise you would have read when it happened to me. 260 down the drain. Lesson learned. Be glad you guys learned it for cheap.[/QUOTE]So the 0150 is the right #?
[QUOTE=JBoogie123;4926853]Anybody asking for deposits, credit cards, cashapp is fake and scams fellas yall know this.[/QUOTE]Isn't there a ripoff reports forum on here? Can you guys just post there?
Thread going nowhere!
Can't feel sorry for those who do advance deposit! That's just too much. Just trying too hard! It's a bottom of the barrel "hobby"! Don't get so entitled and be surprised when you get ripped off! Get your head (actual head) in the game. ! Cheers!
Please post on the right forum.
I've got a girl I see kind of regs who agreed to BBFS if I brought a buddy with me to help me pound her out I don't really talk to my friends about my hobby so hoping to find someone here that would want to join she's not asking anymore for rates just that I bring a buddy I trust is also clean anyone down? Will send more details.
[QUOTE=BwcTravelz;4929352]I've got a girl I see kind of regs who agreed to BBFS if I brought a buddy with me to help me pound her out I don't really talk to my friends about my hobby so hoping to find someone here that would want to join she's not asking anymore for rates just that I bring a buddy I trust is also clean anyone down? Will send more details.[/QUOTE]Sent you a msg.
Saw Brandy at lears last Friday night. Set up early with the phone guy for a late night appointment Was a decent session, BBFS for the extra ben as others mentioned, but made sure to mention no cip beforehand, so I respected her wishes. Cim allowed, but didn't swallow. Like I said decent session, good performance, all positions etc, good bbj and great ass. Smelled great too. Looks exactly like her pics, which is what got me interested in seeing her even before I knew BBFS was on the table, but not the kind of session that has me wanting to rush back to see her as soon as I can but that maybe due to the late time of the appointment or maybe I'm just getting jaded LOL.
Going to see Shelly Fox tonight as I dig her whole look, and unless I'm blown away by her, will probably take another few months off and save up some dough, although I've said that before too!
[QUOTE=JoeIsLive;4929871]Saw Brandy at lears last Friday night. Set up early with the phone guy for a late night appointment Was a decent session, BBFS for the extra ben as others mentioned, but made sure to mention no cip beforehand, so I respected her wishes. Cim allowed, but didn't swallow. Like I said decent session, good performance, all positions etc, good bbj and great ass. Smelled great too. Looks exactly like her pics, which is what got me interested in seeing her even before I knew BBFS was on the table, but not the kind of session that has me wanting to rush back to see her as soon as I can but that maybe due to the late time of the appointment or maybe I'm just getting jaded LOL.
Going to see Shelly Fox tonight as I dig her whole look, and unless I'm blown away by her, will probably take another few months off and save up some dough, although I've said that before too![/QUOTE]I've read on other sites that she has hairy armpits. That's kept me from seeing her. IMO, a big turn off.
[QUOTE=Big0318;4931171]I've read on other sites that she has hairy armpits. That's kept me from seeing her. IMO, a big turn off.[/QUOTE]I should had been clearer, I was referring to Shelly.
[QUOTE=Big0318;4931358]I should had been clearer, I was referring to Shelly.[/QUOTE]She does. I did wind up seeing her last night. The hairy pits weren't a turn off for me. If the chick has the whole alternative look going on, which she does, the hairy pit look works. Plus they were clean. No Bush down below though.
Anyway yes she is BBFS / cip for an additional tip, which may be negotiable. I tipped less then what I expected, on top of the already 50 off Saturday special rate, but honestly the only reason I think she agreed to that was because I didn't stay the whole hour. Again, another session that didn't really blow my socks off, but no fault of the girl. Looks exactly like her pics but man is she petite. I've gotten into the habit of thinking, well if I'm going to drive out to the city, and look for parking that I may as well book the hour, but I need to learn to just go for the half, because if I'm just not feeling it then I'm stuck or usually wind up leaving early and paying the full rate. But that's totally on me. As for shelly, I did manage to get 2 pops, but it was kind of hard making it work because she was so petite and I am tall and not petite LOL. But good attitude and agreeable to all positions, but most likely not a repeat for me.
Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.
Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?
Does anyone know if anyone other than Paige is BBFS friendly at diamond desires?
[QUOTE=Trav459;4932170]Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.
Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?[/QUOTE]I think everything in NYC, whether you're talking about food, entertainment, dating, or hobbying, pretty much mirrors the real estate and rental market here.
In other words it's all overrated, over-entitled, unjustifiably overpriced bullshit, and saturated with demand. Which means everyone has to pay more for less. It's a seller's market, in other words. And just like with the NYC real estate market, I'm really hoping COVid changes that real soon by significantly lessening demand permanently.
[QUOTE=Trav459;4932170]Just a question of general interest, I travel quite a bit for work both domestically and internationally, and find it interesting that some places have a wider prevalence of bareback service on offer than others. For example, Dallas had, until a series of raids a few months ago, a great AMP scene where BBFS was pretty normal and generally on offer. In LA, they have many KMPs that openly advertise BBFS, and others where it's just available, no extra charge. All with CIP available, and hot girls too not just the grandma's and uglies, they do it like it's nothing. Ditto for London, lots of Romanian girls willing to take a load raw anytime you want, usually for upcharge, but lots and lots of selection for BBFS. I haven't been to Toronto, but have heard it's also a bareback haven.
Here in NYC, it's the shittiest selection of BBFS providers of any major metropolitan location I've mongered. It happens to be where I live as well, unfortunately. What gives? Any thoughts or ideas on why BBFS is so much less available here than other places, even ones in the US?[/QUOTE]I think it is a mixture of an evolution and an exodus. A couple years ago the break down in NYC might have been 50/50 with one side being UTR/Short Term women with no connections to other escorts. The other side being career escorts and those with handlers or host in locations that have multiple girls at one location. The UTR /Short Term were more willing to negotiate with lowering their rate drastically, going bare, CIP, MSOG, etc since they probably didn't have regulars or just needed a certain amount to get by and they were willing to meet you halfway. A woman desperate to pay a phone bill in the craiglist era could often be talked down from 200/hhr condom only to 80-100/hhr and bare. Either after 1-2 meetings or during before 1st one if they really needed the money.
The other side the career escorts and those that have multiple women in one location have connections with escorts they talk to them exchange stories / rates. So house rules get created. These career escorts or multi provider locations only need a certain number of meetings a month to break even. So once they hit a number of regulars they can't just no longer negotiate. So if they are a 100/150/200 girl who gives you 1 pop of condom only sex in your time. If you disagree with any aspect she can move on she has 15-30 other regulars who do what she wants and NYC has a lot of mongers out here so if one says no another is around the corner to agree to demands. Which also plays a major part having a lot of mongers gives the power to the women.
With that out of way I can say what I think caused the evolution / exodus. Right now the split is probably 99% of women on these escorts sites are career escorts and multi women location spots. Short Term/UTR women kinda non existent. Craigslist, Backpage, and cityxguide went down. There were other options created or popularized to get money like Tinder, SeekingArangement, OnlyFans. So a lot of women in NYC who would have been bareback friendly went elsewhere they evolved with the market. And in 2020 coronavirus happened. Which was the exodus. A lot of good women in the career escort category as well as UTR women just quit. So now you left with women who been in the game for years or just post ads every single day that have their set rules which include no bareback left. I think other cities favor the monger. Like I been to places in Europe where this is legal. And the rates were low and you could get bareback easily. NYC the first question can often be are you a cop / pimp and the women have a lot of options.
[QUOTE=VertiGold;4932368]Does anyone know if anyone other than Paige is BBFS friendly at diamond desires?[/QUOTE]Yes, Paige is with standard tip.
Anyone give this girl a whirl yet? Must admit I am a bit intrigued.
I haven't gone to that Lexi Lace chick for three reasons:
She is not that good looking.
Reviews are tepid.
Lastly, in one of her pics she has a sign in the room that says no English spoken here. Kind of pisses me off.
[QUOTE=OkTotti;4932801]Yes, Paige is with standard tip.[/QUOTE]He asked for anyone else other than Paige.