MotorCity Mayhem

[QUOTE=Admin2;5902863]If that's the case, and you own the company, and as you say, you can do whatever you want on this forum then remove this comment and ban my account like I just banned GettenAss. All these accounts you're running through are the thousands you made to spam us to try and drive membership to your failed site that you thought would be the USASG Killer. Do you know how much that Monger domain was selling for on GoDaddy? Five bucks, that's how successful you were with it.

John you're nothing but a troll, all forums like this have them and taking out the trash is part of the job. You also help us with our engagement, the people who hate you come to see what you're doing, and the people who like you do the same. You're boosting our ad rates with every post.

Keep the cards and letters coming.

A2.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't a simple IP range ban solve most of the John Wise issue? (I mean this as constructive criticism and not as a means to call admin out or insinuate lack of effort).

[QUOTE=WillieRichie;5903116]Wouldn't a simple IP range ban solve most of the John Wise issue? (I mean this as constructive criticism and not as a means to call admin out or insinuate lack of effort).[/QUOTE]Back in the 80's yes but now with the gozzilions of personal devices cell companies use a technology called NAT (Network Address Translation) which in the simplest terms takes a bunch of IP6 Addresses and sends them out on IP4 address. If I blocked his range of IP's (he uses VPN's so the IP's don't really mean anything) I could possibly knock out thousands and thousands of users.

Lots of the users he uses were registered back in 2016 when they were spamming the forum in their failed bid to kill us with the USA * He probably has thousands of them.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5904092]Back in the 80's yes but now with the gozzilions of personal devices cell companies use a technology called NAT (Network Address Translation) which in the simplest terms takes a bunch of IP6 Addresses and sends them out on IP4 address. If I blocked his range of IP's (he uses VPN's so the IP's don't really mean anything) I could possibly knock out thousands and thousands of users.

Lots of the users he uses were registered back in 2016 when they were spamming the forum in their failed bid to kill us with the USA * He probably has thousands of them.

A2.[/QUOTE]I came up in the IPv4 world. But thanks. It's good to learn.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5904092]Back in the 80's yes but now with the gozzilions of personal devices cell companies use a technology called NAT (Network Address Translation) which in the simplest terms takes a bunch of IP6 Addresses and sends them out on IP4 address. If I blocked his range of IP's (he uses VPN's so the IP's don't really mean anything) I could possibly knock out thousands and thousands of users.

Lots of the users he uses were registered back in 2016 when they were spamming the forum in their failed bid to kill us with the USA * He probably has thousands of them.

A2.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the succinct explanation. Also I agree that if its a case of playing whacka mole with one idiot or preventing thousands of potential users from access, than whacka mole it is.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5912796]A handful at best. Tons of girls have Only fans accounts, but few make any money at it. Those who do are exceptional in both their marketing and production values. To make the couple hundred to several hundred a night that an average to above-average dancer makes, takes many more hours than the 7 hours that they spend in a club.

The A / V equipment that the good earners use, costs thousands; only the best-looking dancers with above-average intelligence are likely to have the resources to make a good channel. The learning curve to excel at only fans is steep. Other than the girls or couples who have thousand of subscribers or followers, most usebit for supplemental income, not primary. It takes a lot of time filming, then editing their efforts.

It's the same with cam models. Lots of time learning the ropes, and lots of money to have good A / V equipment. Lots of time sitting on cam to empty rooms of viewers, uess they spend lots of time on Twitter and other social media building their brand.

So, how many Detroit dancers do you think have the wherewithal to do that? I've found very few Detroit dancers with enough of a presence and appearance to attract a large following. To succeed at camming and only fans takes a lot of dedication to their craft. If you listen to most mongers here, they maintain that strippers are lazy and irresponsible. Do you think that those traits lend themselves well to be entrepreneurs innthe digital marketplace?

Let's go with Occam's Razor for an answer. They have left the industry for other jobs, most likely not as lucrative, but probably more stable than dancing.[/QUOTE]You speak as though dancers make good decisions. An think the way you do. They don't. Think logically. We know they didn't all find better jobs cause that would require training an going backwards to make anything close. So some other erotic industry.

[QUOTE=Sprite78;5913339]You speak as though dancers make good decisions. An think the way you do. They don't. Think logically. We know they didn't all find better jobs cause that would require training an going backwards to make anything close. So some other erotic industry.[/QUOTE]Reading is fundamental. You're showing that you're not very good at it. Nowhere did I say that they moved on to "better" jobs; note that I said less lucrative. Nowhere did I say that they make good decisions, though I did state that many don't have the skills to be entrepreneurs.

Further if they're in some "other erotic industry", why aren't there more escorts, street walkers around? Any evidence to support your contention? Anecdotally many have been reported to have left for other service jobs, manufacturing, health care.

On the other hand your 12 posts have shown to be a wealth of information.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5913433]Reading is fundamental. You're showing that you're not very good at it. Nowhere did I say that they moved on to "better" jobs; note that I said less lucrative. Nowhere did I say that they make good decisions, though I did state that many don't have the skills to be entrepreneurs.

Further if they're in some "other erotic industry", why aren't there more escorts, street walkers around? Any evidence to support your contention? Anecdotally many have been reported to have left for other service jobs, manufacturing, health care.

On the other hand your 12 posts have shown to be a wealth of information.[/QUOTE]Then you just wrote all those paragraphs for nothing. Cause you can list all the different reason why they aren't there but at the end of it all you can only guess. An you know where all the street walkers an escorts have gone. There either dead in jail or rehabbing out of it all. But I'm sure you have a laboratory hypothesis?

Your not a strip club whisperer sad to bust your rubber. Some women may be doing * an other things to help out. I know a stripper who's doing just that hence my suggestion. Everybody doesn't need to make 6 figures or even 5. What you need to live isn't what they need so you don't know. Nor do I, but * is a recent adaptation to the erotic life so it's an option. I simply made some suggestion an you became the reading rainbow. Thanks good luck with your stripper "where are they now story" hope you get laid. I'm done.

[QUOTE=Sprite78;5913339]You speak as though dancers make good decisions. An think the way you do. They don't. Think logically. We know they didn't all find better jobs cause that would require training an going backwards to make anything close. So some other erotic industry.[/QUOTE]Agree with Passenger. You don't seem overly experienced in understanding mongering dynamics.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;5913566]Agree with Passenger. You don't seem overly experienced in understanding mongering dynamics.[/QUOTE]I'm 43 years old an have been going to strip clubs since I was 19 dated an married a stripper for 16 years in an out of strip clubs since. I could care less about a guy who's butt hurt that his regulars have moved on with there life an he hasn't. I was simply stating other means of income a stripper an get an was attacked for reading comprehension an personal opinion. There is no right answer cause guess what you doing know where they went an nor do I. I go wit the flow an adapt. Maybe you should try instead of your "Investigation Report" - Where did the ****** go? Channel 8 at 9 pm tune in! Summer coming an you whining. Is that Monger dynamics? So sophisticated smfh.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5913433]Reading is fundamental. You're showing that you're not very good at it. Nowhere did I say that they moved on to "better" jobs; note that I said less lucrative. Nowhere did I say that they make good decisions, though I did state that many don't have the skills to be entrepreneurs.

Further if they're in some "other erotic industry", why aren't there more escorts, street walkers around? Any evidence to support your contention? Anecdotally many have been reported to have left for other service jobs, manufacturing, health care.

On the other hand your 12 posts have shown to be a wealth of information.[/QUOTE]The amount of post I've made means absolutely nothing. I come to this page for information not to pontificate about women an things I know nothing about. Lmfao you think posting is a sign of intelligence shows how smart you really are. Smdh. You know what you got it buddy. Cause posting on here is pointless.

[QUOTE=Sprite78;5913558]Then you just wrote all those paragraphs for nothing. Cause you can list all the different reason why they aren't there but at the end of it all you can only guess. An you know where all the street walkers an escorts have gone. There either dead in jail or rehabbing out of it all. But I'm sure you have a laboratory hypothesis?

Your not a strip club whisperer sad to bust your rubber. Some women may be doing * an other things to help out. I know a stripper who's doing just that hence my suggestion. Everybody doesn't need to make 6 figures or even 5. What you need to live isn't what they need so you don't know. Nor do I, but * is a recent adaptation to the erotic life so it's an option. I simply made some suggestion an you became the reading rainbow. Thanks good luck with your stripper "where are they now story" hope you get laid. I'm done.[/QUOTE]Or take a walk, go for a run, get your dick sucked.

Might help you relax. 😃.

[QUOTE=Spite36;5913339]You speak as though dancers make good decisions. An think the way you do. They don't. Think logically. We know they didn't all find better jobs cause that would require training an going backwards to make anything close. So some other erotic industry.[/QUOTE][BLUE]He literally said exactly the opposite. He gave a long explanation or why most dancers couldn't make money on Only Fans BECAUSE they make bad decisions.

FYI, its your content, not the fact that you used nearly the same name that got you banned again. I know this is the fight thread but when I find somebody like you I don't really give a fuck where they are posting, I'm going to just ban them again.

A2[/BLUE]

What causes one to get banned on here, without a reason given and for an infinite amount of time? I'll admit I'm on my 3rd go around due to being banned for an unknown reason. As far as I know, I broke no rules. Think I've only been warned once during my whole time as a member since about 2012 or so. Lost my senior status and everything. What gives?

[QUOTE=Grimzelda;5940525]What causes one to get banned on here, without a reason given and for an infinite amount of time? I'll admit I'm on my 3rd go around due to being banned for an unknown reason. As far as I know, I broke no rules. Think I've only been warned once during my whole time as a member since about 2012 or so. Lost my senior status and everything. What gives?[/QUOTE]Kinda hard to answer your question if you don't share your prior usernames.

Stop wasting space talking about some dude.

[QUOTE=LiquorLotto;5969162]Stop wasting space talking about some dude.[/QUOTE]If the dude was around he'd be sharing because the Dude could find more action than anyone ever. I mean this got got action all over the state. He did more for this community than anyone. We should celebrate this guy and pass on his techniques to stay safe. Most of the how to stuff came directly from his experiences. Sorry if you missed his experiences but many of us respect him.

[QUOTE=Gerjon;6157893]Thanks for the link so we can all help her achieve her goals![/QUOTE]Most guys on here are just gloating about experiences and not really looking to help anybody out. I've noticed that the past couple years being on this forum. I have a great lady at the house so I'm not really worried about much of this stuff. Go over to the strip club forum and the dudes are much more open to pointing you in the right direction of what you're looking for. It seems in the massage World guys get very possessive for some reason. Good luck be safe.

[QUOTE=YoungBuck7;6158365]Most guys on here are just gloating about experiences and not really looking to help anybody out. I've noticed that the past couple years being on this forum. I have a great lady at the house so I'm not really worried about much of this stuff. Go over to the strip club forum and the dudes are much more open to pointing you in the right direction of what you're looking for. It seems in the massage World guys get very possessive for some reason. Good luck be safe.[/QUOTE]I concur! It's a forum, we should share and help each other out.

[QUOTE=YoungBuck7;6158365]Most guys on here are just gloating about experiences and not really looking to help anybody out. I've noticed that the past couple years being on this forum. I have a great lady at the house so I'm not really worried about much of this stuff. Go over to the strip club forum and the dudes are much more open to pointing you in the right direction of what you're looking for. It seems in the massage World guys get very possessive for some reason. Good luck be safe.[/QUOTE]I would agree with this statement. I think some guys withhold info if they find a girl they like. They want to keep a "good thing" going with her and can't trust other dudes not to ruin it.

[QUOTE=Ixby4748;6158976]I would agree with this statement. I think some guys withhold info if they find a girl they like. They want to keep a "good thing" going with her and can't trust other dudes not to ruin it.[/QUOTE]While there is always a risk of "ruining it" I would encourage guys to spill the details on both the good and bad SPs. My reasoning is that I cannot completely support a good SP (if I could, I would be looking for a sugar baby) by myself, but if I chat her up in the forum she will get enough business to not look for a legit job or, more likely, move on to another city looking for greener pastures. Also, we obviously want to call out the bad SPs to help each other avoid mistakes and hopefully drive the bad SPs out of the business.

Reality doesn't support this. Look for a legit job? LOL.

[QUOTE=LotharioPK;6159892]While there is always a risk of "ruining it" I would encourage guys to spill the details on both the good and bad SPs. My reasoning is that I cannot completely support a good SP (if I could, I would be looking for a sugar baby) by myself, but if I chat her up in the forum she will get enough business to not look for a legit job or, more likely, move on to another city looking for greener pastures. Also, we obviously want to call out the bad SPs to help each other avoid mistakes and hopefully drive the bad SPs out of the business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;6160088]Reality doesn't support this. Look for a legit job? LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree, that's why I said "... Or, more likely, move on to another city... ".

[QUOTE=Lu225;6171642]Anyone see this lady?? TIA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuvHugeTits;6172058]It just kills me when a senior member that has been posting here for almost six years cannot tell when a post is obviously fake.[/QUOTE]What kills me is that anyone would bother to assist Mr. Lu225 in light of his "take, but never give" attitude. After Lu225 posted 7 "asks" over 2 days in June 2014, a gent named Mallard1 remarked here:

[QUOTE=Mallard1;2123073](6/15/2014) I know you're new but Why not post an experience instead of just asking for info?[/QUOTE]Lu225 replied: "Your (sic) right. ".

So Mr Lu225 went on to post 38 consecutive "asks" against 0 "gives". Current tally 45 to 0. What a guy!

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6291916]I might catch a lot of heat on this board for this opinion, but I personally think that there are way better options than Tiffany for the money. For starters, while her massage is DECENT for the price (I think the house fee just got upped last year to $. 9 for the hour) and I like the hot stone treatment, her extras menu is vastly overpriced for what you get. I think the last time I saw her I asked for a BS and BJ combo and she quoted me $. 50+ the house fee ($ $ 50 all said out the door). Plus, it was rushed, mechanical and just felt very impersonal. I will say however that the benefit to Saigon is that the place looks legit, is very professionally decorated and gives off a spa like environment. If you're cool with spending 40 or 50 more than you would normally for extras in other places (and don't mind a (IMO) fake performance) then I say it's worth checking out. It's easily in my top 10 for spas with options. For my money though however, there are much better options out there.[/QUOTE]Can we all please dispense with the ridiculous $. 9, $ + 50 nonsense? What is the point? Just say what it costs. Because otherwise we get posts like this one which do not follow the format and are incredibly hard to understand, which makes the post useless. Not trying to call out this person but the nomenclature as a whole is pointless.

[QUOTE=SingDong99;6297279]Can we all please dispense with the ridiculous $. 9, $ + 50 nonsense? What is the point? Just say what it costs. [/QUOTE]The irony here is I did tell you exactly what it costs. If you're having a hard time understanding the format used on these boards for prices and services, maybe try asking around what " $ " means or what " $ . 50 " means instead of calling people out (which you did exactly that by quoting me) who just follow what everyone else does on here. Or better yet, maybe go and see the provider yourself and figure out what it costs and report back in whatever format you wish. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6297392]The irony here is I did tell you exactly what it costs. If you're having a hard time understanding the format used on these boards for prices and services, maybe try asking around what " $ " means or what " $ . 50 " means instead of calling people out (which you did exactly that by quoting me) who just follow what everyone else does on here. Or better yet, maybe go and see the provider yourself and figure out what it costs and report back in whatever format you wish. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Perfect example of why folks should ditch the code. People don't all understand it the same. Unless you're telling us the house fee is now $190, you used it in a way different from how it's explained in the Abbreviations section of this site.

[QUOTE=SingDong99;6297279]Can we all please dispense with the ridiculous $. 9, $ + 50 nonsense? What is the point? Just say what it costs. Because otherwise we get posts like this one which do not follow the format and are incredibly hard to understand, which makes the post useless. Not trying to call out this person but the nomenclature as a whole is pointless.[/QUOTE]If you think you need to speak in some code that doesn't incriminate you then just put 100,150, 200, etc. 100 what? 200 what? Your defense is I gave her 200 cotonballs fir sex officer. Nothing against that.

Most guys using the $. 5 code don't use it right anyways. And many who read it don't understand it correctly. There really is nothing cool or necessary about it. So yeah, let's communicate properly.

[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6297439]Perfect example of why folks should ditch the code. People don't all understand it the same. Unless you're telling us the house fee is now $190, you used it in a way different from how it's explained in the Abbreviations section of this site.[/QUOTE]The code is one of the dumbest things. Almost as dumb as people saying they had a dream that they met someone.

[QUOTE=HugeDk;6297755]If you think you need to speak in some code that doesn't incriminate you then just put 100,150, 200, etc. 100 what? 200 what? Your defense is I gave her 200 cotonballs fir sex officer. Nothing against that.

Most guys using the $. 5 code don't use it right anyways. And many who read it don't understand it correctly. There really is nothing cool or necessary about it. So yeah, let's communicate properly.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. The biggest crime is paying MONEY for sex. So by including a DOLLAR SIGN you idiots are literally hanging yourselves in court. It doesn't matter if it was $0. 01, it's money for sex and you blew your biggest defense. So please, let's stop thinking we're cleaver and just post numbers WITHOUT a dollar sign.

[QUOTE=SingDong99;6297279]Can we all please dispense with the ridiculous $. 9, $ + 50 nonsense? What is the point? Just say what it costs. Because otherwise we get posts like this one which do not follow the format and are incredibly hard to understand, which makes the post useless. Not trying to call out this person but the nomenclature as a whole is pointless.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Some guys are uncomfortable posting amounts, the code couldn't be more simple. Like it says on the abbreviations page:
$ 100
$$ 200
$$$ 300
$$$.5 350 get it?

If you don't want to use it don't.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=AvBrent;6298152]Totally agree. The biggest crime is paying MONEY for sex. So by including a DOLLAR SIGN you idiots are literally hanging yourselves in court. It doesn't matter if it was $0. 01, it's money for sex and you blew your biggest defense. So please, let's stop thinking we're cleaver and just post numbers WITHOUT a dollar sign.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Court? The biggest defense is "who the fuck is AvBrent and how do you intend to prove that AvBrent is me? They can't ask us, I have no fucking idea who you are. The biggest defense is the anonymity that we baked into the forum. Unless they catch you the same way they caught DPR with the site open on your phone (and you aren't DPR, nobody is looking for you) then your defense is, I sometimes go to that site because it's fun to read.
To you as well, if you don't want to use it don't use it.

To all of you keep it off the review threads.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;6298235][BLUE]Some guys are uncomfortable posting amounts, the code couldn't be more simple. Like it says on the abbreviations page:
$ 100
$$ 200
$$$ 300
$$$.5 350 get it?

If you don't want to use it don't.[/BLUE][BLUE]Court? The biggest defense is "who the fuck is AvBrent and how do you intend to prove that AvBrent is me? They can't ask us, I have no fucking idea who you are. The biggest defense is the anonymity that we baked into the forum. Unless they catch you the same way they caught DPR with the site open on your phone (and you aren't DPR, nobody is looking for you) then your defense is, I sometimes go to that site because it's fun to read.
To you as well, if you don't want to use it don't use it.

To all of you keep it off the review threads.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]For those of us idiots pitching a ***** on the review threads, you proved our point. The anonymity of the site makes it unnecessary to speak in code. And since we all know what is being exchanged for what, $ signs are completely unnecessary as well. While A2 makes the code seem so simple, there are plenty of examples of where OP use it incorrectly and cause about 10 unnecessary reply's to their post just to clarify the amount.

Totally agree this shit don't belong on the REVIEW board. Also totally agree that OP using this code and especially their own version of it are fucking annoying.

[QUOTE=Admin2;6298235][BLUE]Some guys are uncomfortable posting amounts, the code couldn't be more simple. Like it says on the abbreviations page:
$ 100
$$ 200
$$$ 300
$$$.5 350 get it?

If you don't want to use it don't.[/BLUE]

[BLUE]Court? The biggest defense is "who the fuck is AvBrent and how do you intend to prove that AvBrent is me? They can't ask us, I have no fucking idea who you are. The biggest defense is the anonymity that we baked into the forum. Unless they catch you the same way they caught DPR with the site open on your phone (and you aren't DPR, nobody is looking for you) then your defense is, I sometimes go to that site because it's fun to read.
To you as well, if you don't want to use it don't use it.

To all of you keep it off the review threads.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]My thoughts as well. I don't understand how anyone thinks the fuzz will be knocking on their door from participating in here. If you don't divulge personal info, nobody knows who you are.

[QUOTE=AvBrent;6298152]Totally agree. The biggest crime is paying MONEY for sex. So by including a DOLLAR SIGN you idiots are literally hanging yourselves in court. It doesn't matter if it was $0. 01, it's money for sex and you blew your biggest defense. So please, let's stop thinking we're cleaver and just post numbers WITHOUT a dollar sign.[/QUOTE]I agree. Playing hide the the football is still an irresistible urge for some people. The code doesn't make anyone safer. It just confuses the newcomers and that is pointless if we're trying to grow the universe of players here.

[QUOTE=Concupiscent69;6298431]My thoughts as well. I don't understand how anyone thinks the fuzz will be knocking on their door from participating in here. If you don't divulge personal info, nobody knows who you are.[/QUOTE]To those that think you are anonymous here, you don't have to go too far back in memory to remember how AES and EV went down by tracking IP addresses back to specific user names. If the FBI want to find you, they will find you.

[QUOTE=Wasabi313;6298512]To those that think you are anonymous here, you don't have to go too far back in memory to remember how AES and EV went down by tracking IP addresses back to specific user names. If the FBI want to find you, they will find you.[/QUOTE]No one will track you down for posting here. I may or may not have seen a provider and made up my own penthouse forum story. Think of what would have to be done just to get that info. All that time, expense, legal hassle for what? All the losers that think they're going to avoid getting hauled away for posting here unless they use codes make me laugh. You're not getting hauled away, period.

[QUOTE=Wasabi313;6298512]To those that think you are anonymous here, you don't have to go too far back in memory to remember how AES and EV went down by tracking IP addresses back to specific user names. If the FBI want to find you, they will find you.[/QUOTE]AES and EV were infiltrated by the FBI through "meet and greets" arranged by the owners. They also got a court order to get their emails, where they openly discussed interstate transportation. No one on the board was arrested unless they were at a meet and greet soliciting prostitution. No IP Addresses were ever used to identify anyone.

1. Sex workers lie for a living.

2. Anyone, regardless of gender can open an account.

3. Our forum posts can turn up in Google searches.

4. The public can read each and every post. You don't need an account.

5. Cuddlecomfort accounts that are Deleted are not equivalent to accounts that are Banned.

It sure is slim pickings out there right now. It used to be, 10 years ago, that you could just pull up BP and find someone, drive over, and get quality service within the hour. Now there's so many girls running scams, who are flat-out unfriendly when you message them, look absolutely hideous, or operating out of areas notorious for pulling guys over after a date or where you are guaranteed to have a hard time. The average working girl on stg, alligator, sumo, or any of the other weird sites is just not worth the headache. Then if you go mid-to-high-end on a site like tryst, you have to make the date, then she needs to be driven all over, and you end up waiting like an hour in a parking lot someplace sketchy. Then you have to do some weird stuff to prove you're "real" after you've driven out to wherever they are. Just the whole way that things are handled top to bottom make it utterly impossible to set something up to move smoothly. I just want to text a girl and see if she's available, arrange a date, drive out to a decent enough location, then move on with my day. The cops and the wokies have really found fertile common ground to screw with the average dude with "human trafficking."

Apologies for the rant, its just frustrating.

[QUOTE=BlackEscape;6789823]It sure is slim pickings out there right now. It used to be, 10 years ago, that you could just pull up BP and find someone, drive over, and get quality service within the hour. Now there's so many girls running scams, who are flat-out unfriendly when you message them, look absolutely hideous, or operating out of areas notorious for pulling guys over after a date or where you are guaranteed to have a hard time. The average working girl on stg, alligator, sumo, or any of the other weird sites is just not worth the headache. Then if you go mid-to-high-end on a site like tryst, you have to make the date, then she needs to be driven all over, and you end up waiting like an hour in a parking lot someplace sketchy. Then you have to do some weird stuff to prove you're "real" after you've driven out to wherever they are. Just the whole way that things are handled top to bottom make it utterly impossible to set something up to move smoothly. I just want to text a girl and see if she's available, arrange a date, drive out to a decent enough location, then move on with my day. The cops and the wokies have really found fertile common ground to screw with the average dude with "human trafficking."

Apologies for the rant, its just frustrating.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the rant, it's spot on, except it ain't "wokies" driving the "human trafficking" narrative. It's more of the "Sound of Freedom" crowd who create a narrative and bring in Jim Caviezel to star and sell their position, kinda like the whole Pizzagate thing.

[QUOTE=Lamarr;6790553]I appreciate the rant, it's spot on, except it ain't "wokies" driving the "human trafficking" narrative. It's more of the "Sound of Freedom" crowd who create a narrative and bring in Jim Caviezel to star and sell their position, kinda like the whole Pizzagate thing.[/QUOTE]Don't want to start anything political now, but it was Trump who took down backpage, which made everything a little harder.