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Anyone tried this site? Xmeeting?
[QUOTE=RanManCan;4048077]I just signed up for a non-paid account on seeking. My search yields surprisingly small numbers.
Search:
Los Angeles.
50 miles.
18-30.
Only 6 of "about 58 results" logged in less than one week ago?
I haven't uploaded a picture or filled out my profile. Are many profiles only available to paid members?
What numbers do you guys get using the above filters only?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Thousands.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;4048345]Anyone tried this site? Xmeeting?[/QUOTE]Save yourself the trouble.
Weekend roundup.
1 - top of my list - 18 fresh. Wants to go on a real date before hitting the FC.
2 - says she is down for a $, but silent for the last 3 hours.
3 - goes MIA then favorites me today.
4 - says she is down, but then silent for the last 2 days.
5 - the rare white girl, waiting for her reply to my terms.
6 - not so new little girl.
Last weekend I got nothing new, but had some of the best sex ever from my not so new little girl.
Been seeing her once a week for 8 months now. I lost some real hotties lately that wanted $.5 or $$.
Bottom line, it's something to aspire to.
Initially you just want to see if that $ a date even has a chance. (or $$ or whatever your budget allows).
ME
I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement (for an hour or more of your time).
HER
So you're offering $100 a date until we can get an arrangement figured out?
ME
Email me at [EMAIL]blah@blahlah.com[/EMAIL] and I will send you a detailed message of what could be a first date.
Now we wait. Some get it right away, others don't.. most likely this one will fade away.
I should be so lucky.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/15689e0b-ae1e-4f57-ad1b-4a3905c01731[/URL]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4056565]I should be so lucky.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/15689e0b-ae1e-4f57-ad1b-4a3905c01731[/URL][/QUOTE]I even offered her $1.5. No reply.
Never equate a girls bedroom skills with her physical appearance. I just have to say it to keep myself from falling into the GPS trap. Any guy that's been with at least 10 girls in their life knows how true this is. This thread is supposed to be about getting what we want and for a reasonable rate ($-$$$) a date. Over that and with regular 2-3 times a week dating, and you have to be a higher income earner for sure. Unless you own your home outright, have no family obligations, company paid insurance, and no car payment
I have a friend that used to own a very large escort service. Large as in he usually had about 30-40 girls on call. He totally laughs at the the rates i tell him about. His minimum girl was $$$$$. And clients routinely racked up multi thousand dollar tabs a day. If you can spend money like that, you have no real need for this thread. But part of the fun is in finding something closer to a true GFE experience. In my case even if I wasn't obligated to spend a certain amount I would still take care of any girl i was with, if it was more than a one nite stand.
So we look for the happy medium between civi dating and a straight pay for play (half hour to an hour), no emotion experience. I know many non SD's scoff at what we do, and figure we are just getting played, and that the girls are just better actresses (and if thats all it was it would still be worth the time and effort). But don't knock it until you've tried it. Because that once or twice a year when you meet a girl and there are real feelings, you do feel on top of the world, and for far less than you would spend on an SO.
Being single all my SO's are SB's as I don't civi date at all. I've tried doing it on tinder but all I attract are old ladies and SB's. Hoping to meet one tomorrow (an SB not an old lady...lol)
I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me now.
What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.
I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉.
Any input or suggestions.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4057043]Never equate a girls bedroom skills with her physical appearance. I just have to say it to keep myself from falling into the GPS trap. Any guy that's been with at least 10 girls in their life knows how true this is. This thread is supposed to be about getting what we want and for a reasonable rate ($-$$$) a date. Over that and with regular 2-3 times a week dating, and you have to be a higher income earner for sure. Unless you own your home outright, have no family obligations, company paid insurance, and no car payment
I have a friend that used to own a very large escort service. Large as in he usually had about 30-40 girls on call. He totally laughs at the the rates i tell him about. His minimum girl was $$$$$. And clients routinely racked up multi thousand dollar tabs a day. If you can spend money like that, you have no real need for this thread. But part of the fun is in finding something closer to a true GFE experience. In my case even if I wasn't obligated to spend a certain amount I would still take care of any girl i was with, if it was more than a one nite stand.
So we look for the happy medium between civi dating and a straight pay for play (half hour to an hour), no emotion experience. I know many non SD's scoff at what we do, and figure we are just getting played, and that the girls are just better actresses (and if thats all it was it would still be worth the time and effort). But don't knock it until you've tried it. Because that once or twice a year when you meet a girl and there are real feelings, you do feel on top of the world, and for far less than you would spend on an SO.
Being single all my SO's are SB's as I don't civi date at all. I've tried doing it on tinder but all I attract are old ladies and SB's. Hoping to meet one tomorrow (an SB not an old lady...lol)[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. I don't mind bigger women and the are usually incredible lovers. I still get emails from SB's I had years ago. When they are in town, they call. Like you I have tried the legit sites and no one is interested.
[QUOTE=GoldenMan;4010027]Saturday Night Date.
Tiny little latina spinner, in her late 20's.
New to the site, and obviously a civilian looking for a rich boyfriend. Not a professional at all.
This is the one I had to work the hardest, she was very skeptical about everything, but I just assured her that I could spoil her and make her life easier. We even had a Skype session because she wanted to verify what kind of house I live in and what kind of car I drive. This pretty much satisfied her that I am legit, and she was eager to meet Saturday night.
I had dinner reservations for us, and things did not go well at all. She wasn't nearly as friendly as she was when we Skyped, and it seems to me that she changed her mind at some point and just decided to get a free dinner out of it. Either that, or she took one look at me and changed her mind. She was quiet and distracted all throughout the date.
Nevertheless, I asked her near the end if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she just sort of shrugged and made a funny face. So I went for broke and asked her if she wants money to go up to my room with me, and she said she doesn't do that on the first date. Which really means she won't do it with ME.
Struck out. I was tempted to booty call one of the previous girls. However since I had already been laid that day, I decided to just have a few more cocktails, save up my juices and go to bed early.[/QUOTE]Dinner reservation is a big no-no if you've never met, it immediate changes the power dynamic, because you already committed an investment in both time and money. I always suggest that you make it a firm rule to meet either for a drink, or coffee. And even if it's for drinks, always pick a place, if she insists on one particular venue, especially if it's a high end spot. That's red flag # 1 that she's at the very least milking you.
[QUOTE=LuvBigTetas;4058211]Dinner reservation is a big no-no if you've never met, it immediate changes the power dynamic, because you already committed an investment in both time and money. I always suggest that you make it a firm rule to meet either for a drink, or coffee. And even if it's for drinks, always pick a place, if she insists on one particular venue, especially if it's a high end spot. That's red flag # 1 that she's at the very least milking you.[/QUOTE]For me I have had mixed results, no guarantees, that's for sure. But sometimes you just want to go out. Right? Might as well be across from a hot girl instead of a co-worker.
I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.
[QUOTE=LessnessMan14;4059261]I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.[/QUOTE]I think this card works as well [URL]https://www.myvanillacard.com/home.html?country=US-en[/URL]#!
Wanted $$. I declined.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/395c1a35-9b79-4705-a952-d5336edc0c46[/URL]
I've met her when she was brand new to the site. Very real, very fun, very reasonable at that time. One of my better experiences off the site.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4046795]A genuine amazon beauty.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/67f814fb-640d-4803-b545-e170e945ef5c[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LessnessMan14;4059261]I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.[/QUOTE]Not having found those others (and just posted in the Richmond thread w / the question), can you describe using a Google Pay (not play?) card to pay for a membership on SA? Is the card available without personal info?
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You knew you shouldn't post this, why didn't you put it in the fight thread? There is no non argumentative way to call somebody cheap.
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Planned my whole day around seeing my girl at 4 pm today. She flakes and then wants me to come get her at 11 tonite. These girls don't always get that some people have an 8-4 life M-F. Go to bed on time and get up early. And getting mad isn't the solution. But it still sucks.
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I'd say more, but the Admin doesn't like when I get uppity.
[blue]I'm not sure why you are using such racially derogatory language like that to describe my actions but what I don't like, regardless of who does it, is when people do stupid shit like this on review threads and not the fight thread.
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[QUOTE=TheNoob;4058974]This sounds like more time and money invested than a regular relationship.
But to some the hunt is the most exiting part of this hobby.
The same reason why I keep going to hostess clubs every once in a while.
Is hitting it off with one of them.[/QUOTE]Yup, it does indeed take time and money to get to F / S with a girl from a hostess club. Sometimes you can make quite a bit of an investment with little return. That said, when it pays off (which more often than not it does) the return on the investment is well worth the time and money.
Only thing that comes close to the level of intimacy I've experienced from a hostess is finding an actual Sugar Baby on SA. Depending on the girl, I think hostess clubs could be cheaper than an SB but given the smaller number of clubs that may not be true anymore (less girls = higher prices). However if anonymity is important to you, hostess clubs are the way to go. Way too exposed on SA unless you invest in a burner phone, Prepaid credit card (for site membership which is way too high relative to 5/6 years ago- when I was doing SBs.), etc. Unless your stupid or don't care about anonymity, hostess clubs and extras are cash transactions so compromising your privacy shouldn't be as much of an issue.
For me, anonymity and a higher level of intimacy are what I want. Can't get the level of intimacy I want from a LMP or AMP and SA isn't anonymous enough for me which makes what's left of the hostess scene more attractive. Plus, as you mentioned, the thrill of the hunt is part of the fun too! Nothing beats the rush I get when a hostess who normally doesn't "date" gives in and the fun that starts when my investment pays off- how wet they get, the actual moans...
Still I spent way too much for a lot less than I wanted on my last trip to Fantasy so it may be time to dip back into SA and the sugar bowl. Could be time to brush up on burner phones, prepaid cards etc. LOL.
My not so new little girl - photo shoot. 18 - 5'4" - 105
With over 1,000 guys reading this thread, you think it would get more posts.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4062838]With over 1,000 guys reading this thread, you think it would get more posts.[/QUOTE]Hey HG, I just come here to live through your conquests vicariously, LOL. Keep them coming. You're doing great, and giving the rest of us hope. I'd post my experience, but my 4-month stint on SA resulted in absolute zero, zip, zilch, nada, squat, and a ton of frustration. If one day I manage to bag a SB, you'll read my report here.
Mr. Hollywood Guy:
I just stumbled onto this thread and started reading from the beginning since I like to know at least some background of what I'm reading. That time warp took me back to 2012. I read quite a few pages and then skipped forward to the present.
Thanks for the education. The guy who said if you started a class on this stuff people would flock to it was dead on.
My eyes are bleeding, and I'm pretty sure I'm going blind now, so one thing I missed when I passed through the wormhole to the present; what became of the SD4 M site you used back then? It seems you favor SA now?
Thanks again for all the tips!
[U]Background[/U]
Been reading this and the Richmond thread since after SB2. Here is my 1st month's report.
I'm on the younger end of the age scale, higher end of the sugar scale, and middle road on looks. Struggled a bit in civvie dating when younger, but I am much more confident now. Had a 10 yr haitus w / a warden who recently quit / fired. . . And I'm in the candy store.
"Not-SoCal" means I frequent another state to one particular location.
Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet.
[U]SBs[/U]
SB1 - SoCal 26 blk looks-7, NANDO-2 / UTR. Messy apartment w / no furniture in living room and another couple leaving as we enter. Fun, but too professional for me.
SB2 - SoCal 19 wht looks-8+ midwest blonde, seemed inexperienced. I think a Nando-2 with a touch of Nando-3 because:
[INDENT]PPM quoted before meet.
we dispensed w / plan for drinks before sitting down, direct to FC.
later texts she (booker?) f'd up and didn't recall parts of in-person convo.
[/INDENT]
Odd part is that she (booker?) keeps texting me as if SB? I rarely reply, though would repeat if I already have room paid for (this weekend!
[B]** started reading USASG after SB2 ** learned my lesson.[/B]
SB3 - Not-SoCal 21 mixed looks-8, thin, perfect+perfect ass. I think Nando3, possibly N2, certainly utr if N2. Did a hot baton dance for me in FC before festivities. While doggy the stench of yeast infection just killed it. Would repeat if fixed and I laid down a few rules of my own.
SB4 - Not-SoCal 20 wht WHOLLY-NANDO-1, actually picked her up at her trailer park. A little thick and dumber than a rock. BLS like it was her last meal, no repeat.
SB5 - Not-SoCal 23 why NANDO-5 BINGO!! Delicious thin wonderful larger tatas and a perfect figure, we got along perfectly, sore pubic bone! She sang me sexy songs in the buff while playing a musical instrument. She's been an SB for a few yrs and has regular job, removed her profile after first meet. We text every day, she sends me nudes nearly every day, and it feels like it's becoming some sort of love affair. . . QUESTION?? I've heard you guys warn against emotional attachment. [B]What are the dangers? How to avoid?[/B] She said her GF is also an SB and they had thought about posting together. So I'm sure if I ask about that, the affection will subdue a bit (and 50% chance she'll grant my request).
[U]POTS[/U]
I've got a bunch of irons in the fire, in order of likely future meet, and only if meet likelihood at least 50%.
POT 1 - SoCal 19 hsp thin, meet Thr, she's traveling a ways to meet me so I think she's eager, I'd give 75% chance of showing.
POT 2 - SoCal 26 brazil medium, meet Fri (after traffic per her request), likely PITA but I need the practice, 60% chance of showing.
POT 3 - SoCal 26 wht small looks-7, 1 kid, meet Sat at FC - 99% chance she'll show.
POT 4 - Not-SoCal 25 wht HYB easily the hottest (real) girl I've seen on sites, probably closer to 25% chance here, but had to mention as I'd drop about everything else (except SB-5). Likely GPS, but I might go for it anyway.
POT 5 - Not-SoCal 20 wht HCB NANDO-4/5 !! - this one is going to take a lot of work! Thin beautiful sorority hard worker (late night on-campus job). We text nearly every day, can't see her until back to Not-SoCal. She made clear the she "isn't going to prostitute herself" but doesn't like college frat guys but could use some $ help. This one is going to be like courting a HCB civvie. My plan is to keep the "friendly" conversation going while staying well outside the friend zone, then start heating it up 3-4 days before meet which is probably about 2. 5 weeks from now. [B]ALL SUGGESTIONS HERE ARE APPRECIATED ![/B].
[U]OBSERVATIONS[/U]
A lot of conversations get started, but drop off and difficult to recover. Often even after they get to text.
A lot of girls refuse to go to text and are just slow as shit to respond on the site.
A lot of them say "yes" when asked to meet and even start to make plans, but it's nearly obvious they have no intention to meet, and then drop off as the day approaches. I think I'm not getting far enough with them (emotionally?) before I ask for the meet. Which is made more difficult by their very slow and sporadic responses, by then the initial interest has worn off. Also made more difficult by the fact that some are just looking for PPM (which I'd do with HxB) and others will sting you if they think you are looking for PPM. I'm open to both but really looking for a few SB / Nando5.
[U]QUESTION[/U]
I need to get a "scammer warning" out early in the convo (profile, initial, or after they msg back) but I don't want to be a negative or turn off. I can write it light heartedly enough, but wondering the best stage to put it at (scammers don't read profiles, so likely not there) - so initial message or wait until they respond?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4062796]My not so new little girl - photo shoot. 18 - 5'4" - 105[/QUOTE]Damn dude!
"Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet. ".
What's the title of this book? Several on Amazon that could be relevant.
[QUOTE=Cabsauv1997;4063435]"Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet. ".
What's the title of this book? Several on Amazon that could be relevant.[/QUOTE]The Chimp Paradox: recommended in Richmond blog [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3844471&highlight=chimp[/URL]+paradox#post3844471.
If you read it before I and care to offer the cliff notes.
[QUOTE=AssChaser;4062977]Mr. Hollywood Guy:
I just stumbled onto this thread and started reading from the beginning since I like to know at least some background of what I'm reading. That time warp took me back to 2012. I read quite a few pages and then skipped forward to the present.
Thanks for the education. The guy who said if you started a class on this stuff people would flock to it was dead on.
My eyes are bleeding, and I'm pretty sure I'm going blind now, so one thing I missed when I passed through the wormhole to the present; what became of the SD4 M site you used back then? It seems you favor SA now?
Thanks again for all the tips![/QUOTE]SA seeking is just a better site.
[QUOTE=Statecho;4057535]I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me now.
What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.
I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉.
Any input or suggestions.[/QUOTE]And as the author suggests, test it out first. [URL]https://micahflee.com/2015/11/some-thoughts-on-faraday-bags-and-operational-security/[/URL].
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4060750]Not having found those others (and just posted in the Richmond thread w / the question), can you describe using a Google Pay (not play?) card to pay for a membership on SA? Is the card available without personal info?[/QUOTE]It's just the Google Play (I think that's the name) gift card you can buy at any store. You then load that into the android app store. Now you have say $100 in the app store. If the SA is loaded onto the android phone (or the emulator like I did) you can now pay for a month of SA with the Google Play credit. No personal info needed.
weekend roundup
1 - please jesus I promise to be good
2 - hard to read, but we are messaging
3 - still in the game, she can't make up her mind
4 - messages here and there, iffy, lives super close to me
5 - still in the game, says she is down but lives a bit far
6 - UTR tinder girl - may see her tomorrow also kinda far
also a few UTR's not pictured.. just easy pickings.. not cute enough to post... lol
I do not share girls phone numbers. Although sometimes I wil post a "seeking" profile link in this thread. In the SB world you are basically on your own. Other threads happily share info usually to senior members, and more often to ones that share back or post a lot.
So I finally figures it out. If you see the blocked sign and it says Sugar Baby, that means they canceled their account. If you see the blocked sign and its says their name, that means the account is still active and they just blocked your profile specifically.
[QUOTE=Assaholic;4062914]Hey HG, I just come here to live through your conquests vicariously, LOL. Keep them coming. You're doing great, and giving the rest of us hope. I'd post my experience, but my 4-month stint on SA resulted in absolute zero, zip, zilch, nada, squat, and a ton of frustration. If one day I manage to bag a SB, you'll read my report here.[/QUOTE]The last one I was with was the same sugar baby that could not get her act together. Guess it happens when you're 18. Finally got her. Picked her up at 11 pm. Gave me the roundabout and was about to call it a night when I finally picked her up. Drove her home and spent the next 4 hours doing every position and every hole. Absolutely worth the effort I went through. Ill post some pictures as she was totally fine with pictures and video. Total screamer and had to shush her so as not to wake up the entire neighborhood.
If you like the tall athletic type, it doesn't really get any better than this.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/370add69-afab-4440-86db-7876ebf2c99c[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tipisil;4065520]The last one I was with was the same sugar baby that could not get her act together. Guess it happens when you're 18. Finally got her. Picked her up at 11 pm. Gave me the roundabout and was about to call it a night when I finally picked her up. Drove her home and spent the next 4 hours doing every position and every hole. Absolutely worth the effort I went through. Ill post some pictures as she was totally fine with pictures and video. Total screamer and had to shush her so as not to wake up the entire neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Like an entire photo spread please.
[QUOTE=LessnessMan14;4064067]It's just the Google Play (I think that's the name) gift card you can buy at any store. You then load that into the android app store. Now you have say $100 in the app store. If the SA is loaded onto the android phone (or the emulator like I did) you can now pay for a month of SA with the Google Play credit. No personal info needed.[/QUOTE]Thank you. That may help others, or me next time. In the interim, I could not restrain myself, so I tried what I usually do. A Visa Vanilla Gift card, bought at my local pharmacy, a prepaid debit card I load with cash, and the $6 fee. I put $100 on it, got on the website and added the ZIP code of my fake sugar address, and it went through [URL]seeking.com[/URL] with no problem. I had heard others having problems paying for seeking lately, just wanted to check. Note that I have $10 left on my card I can use for burner minutes, but seeking can't charge another month's membership to it when my current one lapses.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4065656]Thank you. That may help others, or me next time. In the interim, I could not restrain myself, so I tried what I usually do. A Visa Vanilla Gift card, bought at my local pharmacy, a prepaid debit card I load with cash, and the $6 fee. I put $100 on it, got on the website and added the ZIP code of my fake sugar address, and it went through [URL]seeking.com[/URL] with no problem. I had heard others having problems paying for seeking lately, just wanted to check. Note that I have $10 left on my card I can use for burner minutes, but seeking can't charge another month's membership to it when my current one lapses.[/QUOTE]Good show.