Given the popularity, I'm somewhat surprised it lasted as long as it did.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6721222]Just heard from a buddy that went by, says it is closed for renovations. I didn't really have time to ask more, yet.[/QUOTE]
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Given the popularity, I'm somewhat surprised it lasted as long as it did.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6721222]Just heard from a buddy that went by, says it is closed for renovations. I didn't really have time to ask more, yet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6721240]I don't even see how they lasted this long in a town like Orange, in Santa Ana who cares but Orange is the birth of the Karen.
What questions did they ask and how were you able to commandeer your money back?[/QUOTE]It was just basic stuff like, How long were you here, is this your first time (it was) were you here for more then a massage. I just told him I only just got there and he told them to give me my money back LOL.
Relatively new to this, but I guess to the experienced heads, how does this usually play out? Do they reopen? Or now that they are under the eye of LE are they permanently stained with that reputation? Also while under the eye of LE, will the same quality of girls want to even work there anymore? Or is this it?
That was the only but huge issue with Nature. It was so popular, so out in the open, we all knew it was just a matter of time. That's why I always went late at night or on weekends. Every time I hear raids they were always weekday late morning. Even then I could never get 100% comfortable, always checking out the cameras in the rooms, etc and wanted to bounce right after the deed. I hope they resurface at a more secluded spot.
[QUOTE=Morongo;6720691]I struck out here last week. Called ahead and told Papp Adam I wanted to reserve the room. Got there, was escorted to the room and got a short Chinese masseuse. Nothing to write home about. She starts massage for about a minute, then pappasan calls her out, then a new girl (granny) wearing a mask comes in and takes over. She was wearing soft satin pants that are easy to slide off, so I thought I was good for FS. Massage was totally legit with zero teasing. I left with 10 minutes left on the clock. Sucks, cause I was really in the mood for some raw action.[/QUOTE]I went back for a second try. Got the room and same girl. But I got BJ this time I ask for FS but she say no. Also I see a young girl work there have anyone try her yet?
[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6721421]That was the only but huge issue with Nature. It was so popular, so out in the open, we all knew it was just a matter of time. That's why I always went late at night or on weekends. Every time I hear raids they were always weekday late morning. Even then I could never get 100% comfortable, always checking out the cameras in the rooms, etc and wanted to bounce right after the deed. I hope they resurface at a more secluded spot.[/QUOTE]I went there on Thursday night for the first time. It was busy even at 9 pm. I had the best session I've had all year with Winnie, so I'm really sad if this place is gone for good. I really missed out all these months.
Now that the Goblin is done, believe is at the Marriot, where will the Mongolian mongers go to get a good dtbbj?
Things are looking Grimm for 2024.
[QUOTE=CconstantRepea;6721420]Relatively new to this, but I guess to the experienced heads, how does this usually play out? Do they reopen? Or now that they are under the eye of LE are they permanently stained with that reputation? Also while under the eye of LE, will the same quality of girls want to even work there anymore? Or is this it?[/QUOTE]My guess is, this was nothing more than a meet and greet type, a shot across the bow type situation. As far as what happens in the future, that is completely situational. Some cities mostly ignore parlors, others will actively try to eliminate them. Election cycles can play into this as well. We only have this one event to go on, but it seems Orange might take an active role in getting this parlor shut down.
Do they try to reopen? They probably will, but betting it won't be open for too long.
The business license, runs from 2. 1. 23-1. 31.24, who knows if that will be renewed.
[QUOTE=KingWok;6721386]It was just basic stuff like, How long were you here, is this your first time (it was) were you here for more then a massage. I just told him I only just got there and he told them to give me my money back LOL.[/QUOTE]Just curious, how did all this go down? Girls in a panic? Yelling\screaming police are here? I would have to think, they saw LE as they pulled up? Or did LE just park along side of the building to aid with the element of surprise?
[QUOTE=KingWok;6721197]They took my info and statement. Told me that they got multiple reports of the girls offering favors and asked what I was there for. There was like 6 cops vested up questioning everyone and had all the girls in the lobby. Overall the dude that questioned me was pretty chill luckily, Asked how much I paid, got my money back and told me I was free to go since they didn't know how long things were going to take.[/QUOTE]Popo was acting pretty chill and he asked you how much you paid and you told him? I sure hope the question was for the massage. Long time ago I was actually on the table when vice made a visit. Told me get dressed then came back. Such a friendly guy but then the questions came out about discussion of $ for services. How much were you going to give her and how much did she ask and for what. All the time switching back forth while being totally cool. You can tell me you won't get into any trouble he says. The gal got a pretty good lesson on how to lie to keep out of trouble. Guys never fall for that shit and never say anything other than you're there for a massage only. Fucking nice vise guy then goes full hardball. She told us everything already so you should just tell us so we can tell the judge you cooperated. Don't fall for that!
Dude you made me start laughing when you said Popo was acting pretty chill.
Which LE were they? Sheriff, City or joint?
[QUOTE=KingWok;6721197]They took my info and statement. Told me that they got multiple reports of the girls offering favors and asked what I was there for. There was like 6 cops vested up questioning everyone and had all the girls in the lobby. Overall the dude that questioned me was pretty chill luckily, Asked how much I paid, got my money back and told me I was free to go since they didn't know how long things were going to take.[/QUOTE]
Lots of review or RM website for this place so I went on to see what they have.
Usual. 4 for hhr entry.
A mid 40's MILF came into my room. Her name was Apple. Somewhat hot body.
Began to light touch her legs when she work on my back. She realized the signal and began to tease around by crack.
Turned me around shortly after and she offered you know what but I only went for HE.
Tip was. 5 when she asked for. 6.
It was alright and she let me suck on her pairs. She got pretty wet.
I will probably come back in the future.
Election year 2024? Play it safe guys.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6721993]My guess is, this was nothing more than a meet and greet type, a shot across the bow type situation. As far as what happens in the future, that is completely situational. Some cities mostly ignore parlors, others will actively try to eliminate them. Election cycles can play into this as well. We only have this one event to go on, but it seems Orange might take an active role in getting this parlor shut down.
Do they try to reopen? They probably will, but betting it won't be open for too long.
The business license, runs from 2. 1. 23-1. 31.24, who knows if that will be renewed.[/QUOTE]Most cities require what's called a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for massage establishments. I had to get one for my (fully legit) one. To get a CUP you typically have to have a hearing in front of the city's development board. Before the hearing you have to send out notices of public hearing to all residences and businesses within a specified radius of your proposed location. There are actually "radius map" services out there that you have to hire to run whatever the specified radius is around the address (typically one mile, but can vary from city to city) and they will send you address labels for everybody who falls into that radius, which you have to deliver to the city so they can mail out the public hearing notices. Of course all of this comes at the business owner's cost. This gives neighboring residences and businesses an opportunity to comment or object to the proposed business.
When you get your CUP it comes with a bunch of attached conditions. Mine is about 8 pages of legalese covering various things. Can't be open past 10 PM, nobody can sleep in the building, must have clear windows so you can see into the lobby from the outside, no window coverings, doors have to be unlocked, nobody except employees and customers allowed past the lobby, etc. If at any time the city finds the business in violation of the terms of the CUP, they can revoke the CUP in a heartbeat, which means you're shut down. That's independent of the business license. My business license is renewed ever year but if my CUP gets yanked a day after I renew I'm still shut down because both are required in order to operate. All of this can be done by code enforcement without the need for LE to get involved. However, it is sometimes very hard for code enforcement to actually enforce anything without LE involvement because they don't have the capability of doing an investigation and gathering evidence.
All that being said, Orange has quite a few AMPs up and down Tustin St. So it seems to me that it's a city that tolerates them to a certain extent. Green Sign may have just attracted too much attention to itself.
I suspect what will happen is they will get drawn into a hearing in front of City Council and/or the Planning Commission over the status of their CUP, and whether or not they stay open will depend on the outcome of that. That's how these things usually play out.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6722279]Most cities require what's called a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for massage establishments.
All that being said, Orange has quite a few AMPs up and down Tustin St. So it seems to me that it's a city that tolerates them to a certain extent. Green Sign may have just attracted too much attention to itself.
I suspect what will happen is they will get drawn into a hearing in front of City Council and/or the Planning Commission over the status of their CUP, and whether or not they stay open will depend on the outcome of that. That's how these things usually play out.[/QUOTE]I cut a bit of the response, only because it was very long, but very informative.
Orange Muni Code.
[URL]https://library.qcode.us/lib/orange_ca/pub/municipal_code/item/title_5-article_ii-chapter_5_56?view=all[/URL]
Looks like, Chief of Police can take action, if a violation of conditions is found. Take a look at.
5. 56.060 Conditions of Operation.
Looking over those conditions, I'd say Nature complied with just a few, violated most. The few they might have been in compliance of, probably are just minor conditions in the eye of the city.
"The Police Department may inspect the occupied massage rooms for the purpose of determining that the provisions of this chapter are met upon occurrence of any of the conditions which would require the posting of the "Notice To All Patrons" as set forth in this chapter. During an inspection, the City may verify the identity of all on-duty massage therapists. ".
That clause, I would imagine is fairly common. Being that the City / Police had little if any true evidence before, this allowed them to peek inside and see what was going on for themselves.
It will be interesting, to see what happens next. Probably, very much as described by Grimmy.
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6722060]Popo was acting pretty chill and he asked you how much you paid and you told him? I sure hope the question was for the massage. Long time ago I was actually on the table when vice made a visit. Told me get dressed then came back. Such a friendly guy but then the questions came out about discussion of $ for services. How much were you going to give her and how much did she ask and for what. All the time switching back forth while being totally cool. You can tell me you won't get into any trouble he says. The gal got a pretty good lesson on how to lie to keep out of trouble. Guys never fall for that shit and never say anything other than you're there for a massage only. Fucking nice vise guy then goes full hardball. She told us everything already so you should just tell us so we can tell the judge you cooperated. Don't fall for that!
Dude you made me start laughing when you said Popo was acting pretty chill.[/QUOTE]Less said, less they have to work with, as we all know. Not that I would say this to the cop, but if "she" already told all, then there is no need for me to repeat it.
I would think, an attorney would advise to say no more than, you were there to get a massage. That at least, gets something out of you, and if you don't say any more, then there isn't much they have on you, other than being in a massage establishment seeking a massage. I wouldn't get into how you found out about this place, or anything like that.
[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6710050]If you have zero posts, no soup for you. Please go to a MP, write a review or 2 and then people will give you info.[/QUOTE]Inbox was full, can't imagine the requests you got. If still available even at a rate, let me know.
Hi,
Posting my experience. Contacted believe's number. Got an address and headed there. Got to the place and went to the room number given. Saw Candy.
Looks. Big boobs. Asian. Looked to be in her 30's /40's. Not tall. 6/10. At that point I was ready to walk, but decided to TOFTT.
Attitude. She was friendly, but seemed uncomfortable. Second red flag. Like no English. So that might have something to do with comfort.
Service. Terrible service. Her no list: LFK, DFK, Daty, BBBJ, Suck on boobs. If the price was. 6 then it would make sense.
Expense. Asked for 1. 6. For the price, it was a total rip off. Then wanted a. 4 tip for stuff from her no list. That's when I walked. She tried to get me to stay, but I just couldn't get into it. Plus she seemed uncomfortable. So I bounced.
Repeat. Not a chance in hell would I repeat w / her.
So yeah, I don't Believe in their services.
Samurai316.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6721825]Now that the Goblin is done, believe is at the Marriot, where will the Mongolian mongers go to get a good dtbbj?
Things are looking Grimm for 2024.[/QUOTE]I saw them in a Holiday Inn. It was so bad I couldn't go through with it. Candy was not sweet at all. Acted friendly, but looked uncomfortable and incredibly limited menu. I'm friendly and respectful, so I Don't know why other than the language barrier. When I wanted DFK, I asked. I'm not one to force myself on a girl. She wanted more cash. I asked about daty (maybe that would put her at ease), she wanted more cash and only wanted my tongue to touch her. I asked if I could suck on her boobs. She said no. She said she would suck me off first. She then proceeded to start putting the rubber on, so she wasn't going to do BBBJ. That's when I got up and was like "no kisses, no kiss (I pointed down there), no sucky sucky. I can't do this. I gave you 1. 6. I'm done. " She tried to convince me to stay. I ripped the rubber off, changed, and walked. 1. 6 to TOFTT. Yeah, 2024 looks rough.
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6722060]Popo was acting pretty chill and he asked you how much you paid and you told him? I sure hope the question was for the massage. Long time ago I was actually on the table when vice made a visit. Told me get dressed then came back. Such a friendly guy but then the questions came out about discussion of $ for services. How much were you going to give her and how much did she ask and for what. All the time switching back forth while being totally cool. You can tell me you won't get into any trouble he says. The gal got a pretty good lesson on how to lie to keep out of trouble. Guys never fall for that shit and never say anything other than you're there for a massage only. Fucking nice vise guy then goes full hardball. She told us everything already so you should just tell us so we can tell the judge you cooperated. Don't fall for that!
Dude you made me start laughing when you said Popo was acting pretty chill.[/QUOTE]Luckily yeah, the dude that questioned me was pretty chill and not aggressive at all. Can't say for the others beside the guy in front of the main door that looked ready for some shit. And when it came to when he asked how much I paid I told them only the house fee for the hour. He told the girl since I wasn't getting a massage to give my money for the hour back. He asked once if I was there for more then a massage and when I said no he dropped it.
I actually wasn't even there long enough to talk about tips with the girl LOL.
Orange City Council is one of the most corrupt once in the County. There was a dude, who was going to be re elected for 3rd term, while it is allowed only for 2nd. I think they just need these parlors to chip in to lobby their campaigns. Otherwise, I don't think they really care about what is going on there.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6722049]Just curious, how did all this go down? Girls in a panic? Yelling\screaming police are here? I would have to think, they saw LE as they pulled up? Or did LE just park along side of the building to aid with the element of surprise?[/QUOTE]The girls were 100% in a panic. My girl was instantly out of my room when they knew they were there. No acreaming, they did pound on the door while the girls were scrambling to get dressed, then them rounding up all the girls to the front and the girls pretending that they all don't understand English to avoid questions as much as they could.
[QUOTE=EastHornDog14;6719477]I went to Suphatra's a couple times this past summer and it seems to only be nuru or HJ at most. None of the providers there seem to do anything beyond HJ unless you happen to know someone different.[/QUOTE]Went today. 45 hf, got aimee, who seemed mid 30's, nice body, small ass. Massage was crazy, like super fast, not on time but her hand motions. I prefer the slow light touch on the tease but this was hi speed. On the flip wanted 100, I was like no way. Countered and she was like no, you new customer I do for 80 and I said no thanks. Put the towel over the now relaxing junior and proceeded to give leg massage. At end she come back an was like ok I do for you. I was no thanks tipped for the massage and left. At that point knew if I agreed it would be a rocket jack and I was already over it. Hit up dang on way home for eye candy but not much going on and smoke was even worse than normal and then saw kimmy on DD IG feed, so shitty day all around hahaha. Oh I texted the number again and she was like what you tell me who and I fire her now. That is too high. Whether she was serious or not, I wasn't about to say and potentially get someone fired. Again, I know not likely but just in case there was a small chance she was serious, not doing that a week before Christmas.
Hi all. I was wondering how legit these posts are on escort alligator where they post an address and flat fee. It seems just to easy for the cops to nab. Like right now there are a bunch of posts about Latinas in Orange.
[QUOTE=CJamesTX85;6722933]Went today. 45 hf, got aimee, who seemed mid 30's, nice body, small ass. Massage was crazy, like super fast, not on time but her hand motions. I prefer the slow light touch on the tease but this was hi speed. On the flip wanted 100, I was like no way. Countered and she was like no, you new customer I do for 80 and I said no thanks. Put the towel over the now relaxing junior and proceeded to give leg massage. At end she come back an was like ok I do for you. I was no thanks tipped for the massage and left. At that point knew if I agreed it would be a rocket jack and I was already over it. Hit up dang on way home for eye candy but not much going on and smoke was even worse than normal and then saw kimmy on DD IG feed, so shitty day all around hahaha. Oh I texted the number again and she was like what you tell me who and I fire her now. That is too high. Whether she was serious or not, I wasn't about to say and potentially get someone fired. Again, I know not likely but just in case there was a small chance she was serious, not doing that a week before Christmas.[/QUOTE]Good job on holding the line of this inflation for the tips / donation. These girls are getting wild with this. The more hobbyist cave to these rates the more these girls will try to pull that off.
[QUOTE=BarnesChris;6723000]Hi all. I was wondering how legit these posts are on escort alligator where they post an address and flat fee. It seems just to easy for the cops to nab. Like right now there are a bunch of posts about Latinas in Orange.[/QUOTE]You have to be extremely careful with that site. Escort Alligator, List Crawler. Basically the same thing. There are some legit ads on there but they're generally considered bottom of the barrel providers. There's also a lot of scams in there, and LE has been known to use the site as bait. You might find a diamond in the rough there but for the most part I wouldn't be shopping that site too much.
They could shut down half of them with this provision alone. (Linens)
3. "Common use of towels or linen shall not be permitted. Towels and linen shall be laundered or changed promptly after each use. Separate enclosed cabinets shall be provided for the storage of clean and soiled linen and shall be plainly marked "clean linen" and "soiled linen" and shall have doors or covers. ".
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6722383]I cut a bit of the response, only because it was very long, but very informative.
Orange Muni Code.
[URL]https://library.qcode.us/lib/orange_ca/pub/municipal_code/item/title_5-article_ii-chapter_5_56?view=all[/URL]
Looks like, Chief of Police can take action, if a violation of conditions is found. Take a look at.
5. 56.060 Conditions of Operation.
Looking over those conditions, I'd say Nature complied with just a few, violated most. The few they might have been in compliance of, probably are just minor conditions in the eye of the city.
"The Police Department may inspect the occupied massage rooms for the purpose of determining that the provisions of this chapter are met upon occurrence of any of the conditions which would require the posting of the "Notice To All Patrons" as set forth in this chapter. During an inspection, the City may verify the identity of all on-duty massage therapists. ".
That clause, I would imagine is fairly common. Being that the City / Police had little if any true evidence before, this allowed them to peek inside and see what was going on for themselves.
It will be interesting, to see what happens next. Probably, very much as described by Grimmy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Samurai316;6722444]I saw them in a Holiday Inn. It was so bad I couldn't go through with it. Candy was not sweet at all. Acted friendly, but looked uncomfortable and incredibly limited menu. I'm friendly and respectful, so I Don't know why other than the language barrier. When I wanted DFK, I asked. I'm not one to force myself on a girl. She wanted more cash. I asked about daty (maybe that would put her at ease), she wanted more cash and only wanted my tongue to touch her. I asked if I could suck on her boobs. She said no. She said she would suck me off first. She then proceeded to start putting the rubber on, so she wasn't going to do BBBJ. That's when I got up and was like "no kisses, no kiss (I pointed down there), no sucky sucky. I can't do this. I gave you 1. 6. I'm done. " She tried to convince me to stay. I ripped the rubber off, changed, and walked. 1. 6 to TOFTT. Yeah, 2024 looks rough.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience, and won't be back unless mms guarantees me she has a good-service cutie. I'm miffed that she led me to Believe that Candy was dandy. Here's a somewhat funny, somewhat concerning related note. The room was on the 10th floor of the Holiday Inn Express in Santa Ana, so I had to go through the lobby past the reception desk to an elevator, rather than being able to go in through the back way and up some stairs, like I have at other hotel venues. Definitely not discreet. Her "no" list for me was no kissing, but when she wanted to put my condom on before the BJ, I told her my $140 tip always includes BBBJ, and she then agreed.
To start the BBBJ off, I was sitting on the edge of the bed (at the end of it), while she was sucking (very toothy). Then a knock comes on the door, which is just a few feet away, and a woman says "Housekeeping". Candy doesn't say anything and seems to be confused as to what to do, and then keeps sucking before the housekeeper called out again.
So she gets up to grab a towel, right as the woman opens the room door. The first thing the Latina housekeeper sees is me sitting there with a full, saliva-soaked bone, and I just say "No!" Her eyes are wide open, she blurts out, "Sorry, sorry!" and quickly retreats. Candy runs to the door in just a white towel, opens it, and calls to the housekeeper to ask her for more towels. Crazy, right? Then she brings the extra towels into the room, and resumes the BBBJ, but asking me not to make noise.
I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.
Anyone seen the new Viet spinner here. I saw here as I was being escorted to the room by another girl there. Super small but curvy. Just wondering if anyone has experience with her. I might give her a go next visit. Just looking for some info on her first. Don't want to waste my time if no good.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sticker;6723436]
So she gets up to grab a towel, right as the woman opens the room door. The first thing the Latina housekeeper sees is me sitting there with a full, saliva-soaked bone, and I just say "No!" Her eyes are wide open, she blurts out, "Sorry, sorry!" and quickly retreats. Candy runs to the door in just a white towel, opens it, and calls to the housekeeper to ask her for more towels. Crazy, right? Then she brings the extra towels into the room, and resumes the BBBJ, but asking me not to make noise.
I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.[/QUOTE]That's hilarious LOL! Should have just offered the Latina housekeeper to join in or switch job with Candy LOL.
[QUOTE=Sticker;6723436]
I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.[/QUOTE]How does Believe go from having hotties to this?
Has anyone tried the little Viet spinner here? I saw her when I was being escorted to a room by another provider. She looks fun tiny but built. May try her next visit. But was wondering if anyone has experience with her.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6722279]Most cities require what's called a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for massage establishments. I had to get one for my (fully legit) one. To get a CUP you typically have to have a hearing in front of the city's development board. Before the hearing you have to send out notices of public hearing to all residences and businesses within a specified radius of your proposed location. There are actually "radius map" services out there that you have to hire to run whatever the specified radius is around the address (typically one mile, but can vary from city to city) and they will send you address labels for everybody who falls into that radius, which you have to deliver to the city so they can mail out the public hearing notices. Of course all of this comes at the business owner's cost. This gives neighboring residences and businesses an opportunity to comment or object to the proposed business.
When you get your CUP it comes with a bunch of attached conditions. Mine is about 8 pages of legalese covering various things. Can't be open past 10 PM, nobody can sleep in the building, must have clear windows so you can see into the lobby from the outside, no window coverings, doors have to be unlocked, nobody except employees and customers allowed past the lobby, etc. If at any time the city finds the business in violation of the terms of the CUP, they can revoke the CUP in a heartbeat, which means you're shut down. That's independent of the business license. My business license is renewed ever year but if my CUP gets yanked a day after I renew I'm still shut down because both are required in order to operate. All of this can be done by code enforcement without the need for LE to get involved. However, it is sometimes very hard for code enforcement to actually enforce anything without LE involvement because they don't have the capability of doing an investigation and gathering evidence..[/QUOTE]Does this also apply to massage establishments that try to circumvent being a massage place by labeling themselves as a "spa", "acupuncture", etc?
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Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.
Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.
Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.
With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.
[QUOTE=Winger537;6723612][URL]https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/[/URL]
Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.
Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.
Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.
With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.[/QUOTE]I just compared the pics to the VIP gals and looks like many of them the same. At least you get that WeChat bar code or what ever they call that thing. The VIP group branched out into all kinds of different names I've noticed.
Hi,
Pics are fake. I am curious about JX Massage, they say mamasan has big tits there. Anyone had FS there?
[QUOTE=Winger537;6723612][URL]https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/[/URL]
Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.
Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.
Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.
With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.[/QUOTE]
Didn't get her name. She was cute with a nice body. 40 for 30 minutes hf. Massage was okay but not much teasing. Flip brought the negotiations. 120 for BJ not sure if CBJ or BBBJ. I passed. Got a nice slow sensual HJ. Tipped 60 because it was a good HJ. She was amazed at the volume of my load. Probably won't return.
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With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.[/QUOTE]Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.
[QUOTE=CJamesTX85;6722933]Went today. 45 hf, got aimee, who seemed mid 30's, nice body, small ass. Massage was crazy, like super fast, not on time but her hand motions. I prefer the slow light touch on the tease but this was hi speed. On the flip wanted 100, I was like no way. Countered and she was like no, you new customer I do for 80 and I said no thanks. Put the towel over the now relaxing junior and proceeded to give leg massage. At end she come back an was like ok I do for you. I was no thanks tipped for the massage and left. At that point knew if I agreed it would be a rocket jack and I was already over it. Hit up dang on way home for eye candy but not much going on and smoke was even worse than normal and then saw kimmy on DD IG feed, so shitty day all around hahaha. Oh I texted the number again and she was like what you tell me who and I fire her now. That is too high. Whether she was serious or not, I wasn't about to say and potentially get someone fired. Again, I know not likely but just in case there was a small chance she was serious, not doing that a week before Christmas.[/QUOTE]Sad because Suphatras used to be a good place to get a great massage and a quick HE afterwards.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6723718]Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.[/QUOTE]Yep they are indeed open. Who's taking the plunge? Good time to go for you mongers that don't like waiting there.
[QUOTE=Periphery;6723575]Does this also apply to massage establishments that try to circumvent being a massage place by labeling themselves as a "spa", "acupuncture", etc?[/QUOTE]"Spa" is pretty much massage by definition. Sure there's "hair spas" and "nail spas" and such, but those are licensed professions in California, so you can't operate a "spa" of any type (strangely enough other than a massage spa) in California without going through the state board. There is no such thing as a massage license in California, therefore there is no state massage board. There is a civilian organization called California Massage Therapy Council (CAMTC). They issue massage certificates, and most cities require the certificate for MTs to operate within their city limits. It's sort of a license but not quite. They don't have the authority to regulate establishments. That falls on the cities.
There have been a lot of stories in the past of "chiropractic clinics" that were really fronts for MPs offering sexual services. In a lot of those cases it was someone operating under the license of a chiropractor who either retired or left the business. If they get busted and get their license revoked, no biggie, they're out of the business anyway. Same thing with acupuncturists.