"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6484014]I saw one of them. The one goes by Mia.[/QUOTE]Mind PMing me with some details of your experience? I'm negotiating with them now, might be meeting them on Friday.

How are why'all making your payments to Seeking? I haven't been able to get on there in months. Vanilla cards don't seem to work regardless of what I do.

[QUOTE=Harley32;6484101]How are why'all making your payments to Seeking? I haven't been able to get on there in months. Vanilla cards don't seem to work regardless of what I do.[/QUOTE]

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14265-quot-Sugar-Babies-quot-and-quot-Arrangements-quot&p=6430732&viewfull=1#post6430732

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/da6bbb54-da29-4219-adc8-6ebab595766c[/URL]

I know that SA takes a good deal of effort as compared to cruising escort sites. But for someone like me that is really seeking more than just getting off and going it's very worth it. I have found that the best experiences out there for me are when I can relax and connect a bit before the intimacy. These type of arrangements where time is not a factor has proven huge for me. Call it performance anxiety or whatever but when I'm not on a clock is when things work best for me. Funny part is I don't spend much more time getting my two rounds in that I would with a pro but just the change in atmosphere makes all the difference. Had an arrangement today that lasted 1. 5 hrs and I got everything I wanted with lots of time but little capital invested.

Just my. 02. The effort is worth it gents. Keep seeking!

[QUOTE=SexyBeast93;6484062]Mind PMing me with some details of your experience? I'm negotiating with them now, might be meeting them on Friday.[/QUOTE]Search for Mia in this thread, there should be some reviews.

Anyone see her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c0aab8e4-c5ff-444b-840f-df56ea9b67a0[/URL]

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6483775]AVOID like the plague. Wanted $700 ppm & then when I said way too high, she hits me with the old "pay me for wasting my time. " When I refused, she sent me a screenshot where she had learned my real name & looked me up. Fortunately, she didn't learn anything that would help her in her extortion efforts. This "bio" she found listed names of people it thought might be contacts of mine. Too bad for her that I don't know these people from Adam's housecat. But she texted them, saying I was trying to buy sex from an underage girl. Since they have no idea who I am, they told her to go away. I also very energetically told her I won't pay under any circumstances whatsoever.

Two can play that game. I used Facecheck I'd (a thousand thanks to the monger who mentioned Facecheck on this Board) & looked her up. I found her real name too & a bunch of social media. She lives in Miami & graduated from the you of Miami. So when she threatened to "keep going", I replied, fine, I will too. I quickly learned she's 24, & one of those TikTok influencers. She also has a LinkedIn career page. With this career info, I advised her that it would be really bad for her if I put some of her social media & career contacts on blast with news of what she's doing & that I fully intend on prosecuting her for extortion / blackmail, etc.

Funny. She went silent & disappeared completely after that. The best defense is a good offense, for sure.

I've been in this hobby for 20 years but only in the last year has this kind of drama happened to me, twice now. WTH is going on with these "ladies?[/QUOTE]How did she find your info? I remember you had another issue so I assume you tightened up after that with hiding your identity. Is your number linked to something or using SnapChat or something to communicate? Stories like yours is why I don't even use a picture in my profile anymore. I try to wait long enough to feel them out before it even gets that far and then I'll use a fake SnapChat account but even that's not foolproof. Nice work playing the reverse UNO card on her though. Seems like a TikTok influencer from the you would have a little more success in her life than to resort to extorting men on dating sites.

[QUOTE=MacLuvin;6484730]How did she find your info? I remember you had another issue so I assume you tightened up after that with hiding your identity. Is your number linked to something or using SnapChat or something to communicate? Stories like yours is why I don't even use a picture in my profile anymore. I try to wait long enough to feel them out before it even gets that far and then I'll use a fake SnapChat account but even that's not foolproof. Nice work playing the reverse UNO card on her though. Seems like a TikTok influencer from the you would have a little more success in her life than to resort to extorting men on dating sites.[/QUOTE]"Tiktok influencer" is the new "I'm in a band". Aka 99.9999% of them are failed losers who will never make enough doing it to live off of financially, but they will "fake it til the make it" to "chase the dream. ".

[QUOTE=NovaPrime;6484508]Anyone see her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c0aab8e4-c5ff-444b-840f-df56ea9b67a0[/URL][/QUOTE]Never mind she is not worth it. Damage was 300 for cfs and strict rules.

Anyone have any intel on this one? Feel free to PM if needed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/623e8e13-f834-4c21-9254-25da75595f52[/URL]

[QUOTE=MacLuvin;6484730]How did she find your info? I remember you had another issue so I assume you tightened up after that with hiding your identity. Is your number linked to something or using SnapChat or something to communicate? Stories like yours is why I don't even use a picture in my profile anymore. I try to wait long enough to feel them out before it even gets that far and then I'll use a fake SnapChat account but even that's not foolproof. Nice work playing the reverse UNO card on her though. Seems like a TikTok influencer from the you would have a little more success in her life than to resort to extorting men on dating sites.[/QUOTE]I only have 3 social media accounts & that's it. And they all have tight privacy controls. She had sent me a screenshot of some page she uses to gain your identity. It listed a bunch of supposed "contacts" on there, but I don't know who those people are, except for one & he'd just laugh at her bullshit (she didn't contact him anyway).

Troubling & extremely annoying indeed, but mongers should know that you can, as you say, play the "reverse UNO card" on these extortionist little creeps.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6484046]Part of Woke ideology is that all women are victims and men are the evil victimizers. So young girls are now raised to believe that anything they do a man is ethical because they are fighting back against their privileged oppressors.

And thanks for the reminder to try to be as private as possible, especially early on with these girls. I would block that one, but I can't find her profile. Maybe someone else will post the link.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, you are exactly right.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bff9fad4-84b5-4049-b441-141aa6240d6e[/URL]

Anybody want to talk to this girl for a week & then have her ghost when you set up a meet?!

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6485128]I only have 3 social media accounts & that's it. And they all have tight privacy controls. She had sent me a screenshot of some page she uses to gain your identity. It listed a bunch of supposed "contacts" on there, but I don't know who those people are, except for one & he'd just laugh at her bullshit (she didn't contact him anyway).

Troubling & extremely annoying indeed, but mongers should know that you can, as you say, play the "reverse UNO card" on these extortionist little creeps.[/QUOTE]I sometimes use these sites like been verified and people search to try to glean info about POTs. Especially in free mode, they toss a lot of stuff out about a phone number, for example, as a way to hook some people into paying for the service. In that they will list associates, could be family members or SM friends. I have always been suspect of that, I don't think they are real. I'd wager your nemesis did that.

I have from time to time taken the 'trial' offer on those sites and run a bunch of phone number through. For like a buck, you can do 100 searches over a week. About half the time you get good info, the other half, they are smart enough to be using a texting app. As long as the email address you give the sites is new and unique, you're good to go at this discounted price.

Finally, about extortion, this has been widely discussed on here before, I believe that the best approach is not to threaten to extort back. You should say this:

While stepping out on my SO / seeking to date much younger women / compensate women for dating (select an appropriate phrase) is perhaps not the most reputable thing I've done, it is not illegal. However, extortion and blackmail are crimes, and Federal ones at that. In the messages you have sent to me, I have all the evidence I need for you to be charged. If you persist in threatening or actually disclosing anything about my personally, I'll be heading right to the FBI with screen shots of all of those.

Multiple guys here over time have found this typically silences the boasters.