[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1771304]Her Pic.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]250468[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Very nice butt on this girl. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1771304]Her Pic.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]250468[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Very nice butt on this girl. Thanks.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1771562]I agree. A woman in her 40's can bury most men in the bedroom. My ATF MILF (pictured) is by far the best sex I get and has a really tight body all around. The young ones may compensate with their youthful beauty, and there is nothing like going down on teen pussy. But sometimes you just need to bang.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]250510[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Very sweet, much appreciated.
This quote originally from sub commander assumed that everything was the same except for looks and price. So hot time with a 6 three times at the same price of a 10 once. In that case, I will take the quantity with the downgrade in looks.
So we may actually agree.
BigTigg
[QUOTE=Literal2;1772301]Very nice butt on this girl. Thanks.[/QUOTE]We are meeting for the Tiggabounce tomorrow. 3 hour date at hotel. We also have an overnight date set for Tues night. I asked if she wanted anything special either night. She said dic and dic, LOL. We are going to get along great! She is very sexual and as she is older, I think I am in for a fantastic time. Seems we have had a theme of older women and great sex lately on here. I just love Latinas.
So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772671]So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]I would avoid her completely. If the story is true, there is no telling how far she would go if you decided to cut things off. If you do meet her, make sure your security is airtight! No real name, no real phone # or real email address. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772671]So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]I would pass on this one. It's hard enough to deal with them and just their own issues much less another persons. Been there done that. Lots of pressure.
Spit and HG, Thanks. I'll think this over carefully.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1772740]Spit and HG, Thanks. I'll think this over carefully.[/QUOTE]I got an x SB that I ditched 3 years ago. But I still give money to her kid who lives with grandma. I love that kid and I am glad he is in my life. But generally, no way jose.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1772671]Edit Delete She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. Edit Delete So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. Edit Delete But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child? Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]Every girl who sells pussy is in a jam at one level or another. We can't value-judge a girl's need as expressed in this post vs a girl's need to get her brakes fixed. All we can do is do her and pay her what she is worth. We take unfair advantage when we pay her less. We should do her, pay her what she is worth and never blink an eye, [U]if we can[/U]. By the way Lit asks the question it is clear Lit can't.
Lit's first duty is to himself. Pass this girl up. Let her find somebody else. Don't reply further. Don't open her messages.
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1772936]By the way Lit asks the question it is clear Lit can't.[/QUOTE]What does this mean? Doesn't sound positive.
Gee, I was just getting ready to ask you to repeat your patented method of slipping sugar in the girls handbag without saying a word thereby causing her panties to drop.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772671]So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]I had a girl a long time ago that begged for money. Claimed she was in bad straights. Claimed she had gotten cancer. Took me for more than I care to remember. Ended up she had nothing. Read where she killed herself in 2008.
I had a girl that is still a friend of mine today. She needed money. I gave it to her. She always paid off. She hasn't asked me for a dime in almost 10 years.
The question of "being legit" will go on to the end of time. I ask that they produce facts. If they won't produce facts, they are not worth it. I feel for you my friend. :/
My 19 year old "little princess" went off the deep end after a lovey dovey weekend when it came out that she is basically jealous of my roommate. So after 10 weeks of me kissing her ass (and loving it) I may have to cut her loose. Lucky for me the e-volvement level was low. I even broke up with a girl that had no problem waking me up with a 45 minute BJ every time she slept here (it was ending anyway and this girl just expedited the matter).
I honestly did everything for this girl. Got her what she needed. Helped try and turn her into a woman in bed (made some little progress there, and was ready to stick it out a bit more). Cuddled her to death. Told her I loved her over and over. Still not enough? Took her to the dentist, put up a website for her and got her a tablet. I am beating girls off with a stick so when she went off on her yelling and sobbing spree I just took her home. She was on her period and didn't even offer up a proper BJ when she saw I was horny. The nerve of some girls.
But I like that she looked 16 and acted 13. The perv that I am. Anyway I have lots of delayed interviews from pre qualified hotties, guess I'll go on a few. Or maybe just tough it out with my MILF and roommate and save some very needed dough for a month or two. Last week I did both of them on the same day. Kept me satisfied for at least 24 hours or more. LOL. We are just too damn spoiled on here. So I am grateful, I just wish I had a little more coin to increase my level of gratitude to the power above.
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;1773004]I ask that they produce facts.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. Before I change my behavior / the allowance based on the story of tragedy I will ask for proof of facts. Thanks.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1773165]My 19 year old "little princess" went off the deep end after a lovey dovey weekend when it came out that she is basically jealous of my roommate. So after 10 weeks of me kissing her ass (and loving it) I may have to cut her loose.***I honestly did everything for this girl. Got her what she needed. Helped try and turn her into a woman in bed (made some little progress there, and was ready to stick it out a bit more). Cuddled her to death. Told her I loved her over and over. ***when she went off on her yelling and sobbing spree I just took her home. ***Anyway I have lots of delayed interviews from pre qualified hotties, guess I'll go on a few.[/QUOTE]You have interesting domestic arrangements, HG. Sort of like a harem. Obviously it's working for you, and I can only fantasize about what it must be like to be single and in the Bowl every day. I have a question: if the 19 year old knows you have a live-in MILF don't you risk the kind of jealous rage and indignation you experienced by telling her you love her? The word love implies commitment to most females, visions of babies and suburban homes flash before their eyes. At least thats what I've found. So by telling the 19 year old you love her over and over, but keeping the live in MILF, it seems to me you are almost guaranteeing a crisis of jealousy. Why don't you just tell her you like fucking her a lot but you are not a one woman guy and don't really love any of your women in the conventional sense?
Just an idea, no criticism, just curious. (I avoid the word love like the plague and always tell a baby the relationship is temporary.)
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1772387]We are meeting for the Tiggabounce tomorrow. ***I asked if she wanted anything special either night. She said dic and dic,***[/QUOTE]Well? When you come up for air let us know what happened.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1773277]You have interesting domestic arrangements, HG. Sort of like a harem. Obviously it's working for you, and I can only fantasize about what it must be like to be single and in the Bowl every day. I have a question: if the 19 year old knows you have a live-in MILF don't you risk the kind of jealous rage and indignation you experienced by telling her you love her? The word love implies commitment to most females, visions of babies and suburban homes flash before their eyes. At least thats what I've found. So by telling the 19 year old you love her over and over, but keeping the live in MILF, it seems to me you are almost guaranteeing a crisis of jealousy. Why don't you just tell her you like fucking her a lot but you are not a one woman guy and don't really love any of your women in the conventional sense?
Just an idea, no criticism, just curious. (I avoid the word love like the plague and always tell a baby the relationship is temporary.) [/QUOTE]My "live in" is a 22 year old asian girl. My MILF never comes here. She has her own place and her own life. I tell every girl my situation before getting serious with them. As far as the "I love yous". Two things. If a girl tells you over and over she loves you, at some point you have to respond in kind or find a new girl. Also the sex quality increases exponentially after you do. It's a girl thing.
For many women (especially the true non pro) sex can be as much as 20% physical and 80% mental. Even my experienced and sexually confident MILF. Once the reciprocating 'I love yous" started our sex quality doubled. So about 50/50 in her case. And like you said, being single allows for a different dynamic.
And while I am sure I could find some sexually proficient young ladies that don't give a hoot about me emotionally, I find that even the best seem a bit mechanical in those scenarios.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1773280]Well? When you come up for air let us know what happened.[/QUOTE]Wow, the sex was great, she knew how to move and how to please. It only cost me $. She was very pleased and has stayed in constant communication. Not a real problem, but man she is loud, LOL. She said she had 4 orgasms. Body is very nice, I do need to adjust down, do now the scale is 9/8/10/9
On my way to STL for a week in June. I have two 6s lined up after my initial blast of about 20 emails. Both are young and cute with a little extra weight. One has a bodacious butt! The other huge boobs, either way I cannot go wrong.
Anyone in the area have any suggestions, I have used SA exclusively.
BigTigg
It's been a busy week for me, with successes and failures to report. First up, Shiny New Baby, whom I wrote about a few days ago. I hope to take a few pages from HG and settle in with two, maybe three ongoing SB's. This girl was guaranteed to be a long term favorite. I say 'was', because SNB, who had the wettest pussy I've encountered in a year, who came twice and told me that never happens, who said she felt extremely comfortable with me, and who had her panties on the floor on our first meet; has gone silent. We talked about getting together again yesterday. I got one brief text, and now only silence. Finally last night I sent her a text saying I understood she must have had a change of heart, but asking if she would do me the favor of telling me why. No response, and so now I'm forced to hit delete and move on.
On Saturday I met South American Baby. She is 39, and seems to ooze sex in the way only some Latina women can pull off. She is a career woman, too busy for a man she says, and is just looking for a once a week, regular NSA relationship. Cost will be very low. Now the downside. After dinner, we retired to her place, and ultimately, to her FC. There have been several recent posts about the joys that come with an experienced older woman. Unfortunately, despite her smoldering presence, the sex was not memorable, to say the least. I plan on giving it another try, to see if maybe it was one of the first time jinx situations that occur sometimes.
My tattooed blond baby continues to charm me, but also keeps bringing up the bills she is behind on, while at the same time telling me she's not ready for a physical relationship. I canceled dinner plans with her last night, and am considering cutting her loose, but as I write this she is texting me and I feel the pull.
Tomorrow I have a meet and greet with a 25 year old HCB. We really haven't texted much, she wanted to go right to coffee, so I don't know what to expect from her. I will evaluate and take it from there.
Wednesday I have another M&G scheduled, with an 18 yo cutie. When I googled her name, her recent arrest photo for a pot bust came up. I don't need that kind of hassle, so I'm not sure I will go through with meeting her.
My last POT is a 20 yo MILF. She has been sexting me for three days. A couple of quotes 'I like to be told what to do and how to do it' and 'I have no gag reflex'. Needless to say I have been trying to speed her along to the M&G but she has been too busy. I recall seeing a hypothesis here that too much sexting is actually counterproductive, I hope I don't validate that with her.
All in all, a good week, but I'm not in HG's league yet! I will keep up the efforts and repot back in soon.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo; 1773418]On Saturday I met South American Baby. There have been several recent posts about the joys that come with an experienced older woman. Unfortunately, despite her smoldering presence, the sex was not memorable, to say the least.
My tattooed blond baby continues to charm me, but also keeps bringing up the bills she is behind on, while at the same time telling me she's not ready for a physical relationship. I canceled dinner plans with her last night, and am considering cutting her loose, but as I write this she is texting me and I feel the pull.
Tomorrow I have a meet and greet with a 25 year old HCB. We really haven't texted much, she wanted to go right to coffee, so I don't know what to expect from her. I will evaluate and take it from there.
Wednesday I have another M&G scheduled, with an 18 yo cutie. When I googled her name, her recent arrest photo for a pot bust came up. I don't need that kind of hassle, so I'm not sure I will go through with meeting her.
My last POT is a 20 yo MILF. She has been sexting me for three days. A couple of quotes 'I like to be told what to do and how to do it' and 'I have no gag reflex'. Needless to say I have been trying to speed her along to the M&G but she has been too busy. I recall seeing a hypothesis here that too much sexting is actually counterproductive, I hope I don't validate that with her.[/QUOTE]1. South American Baby. You can't always judge a book by it's cover or we would only date models.
2. Tattoo Girl. Cut her loose as fast as possible.
3. HCB. Sounds like a Taurus. Likes to get straight to business. I like that. From coffee date right to the motel or car date. Be prepared.
4. 18 yo. If you are not a smoker, then pass. It's legal here, but not always desirable unless its just to loosen her up for sex.
5. Sounds like a UTR girl. Consider her a booty call. Or maybe just another desperate young single mom over her head. Poor girl, don't be the next baby daddy on her list.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1773437]5. Sounds like a UTR girl. Consider her a booty call. Or maybe just another desperate young single mom over her head. Poor girl, don't be the next baby daddy on her list.[/QUOTE]
Funny you should mention that. During our texting, she asked if I was snipped. When I responded that I am not, she replied with "that's ok, I have an IUD". While I would love to experience some BB slipping and sliding, there's no way I'm signing up for the 18 year installment plan for pussy (again)!
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1773467]Funny you should mention that. During our texting, she asked if I was snipped. When I responded that I am not, she replied with "that's ok, I have an IUD". While I would love to experience some BB slipping and sliding, there's no way I'm signing up for the 18 year installment plan for pussy (again)![/QUOTE]Too many close calls forced me to get that operation. Best move I ever made.
Since you are considering dropping her anyway. Just remind her of the link between FC and Money. LOL. You can be subtle."You know if our relationship were a little further along, I could be more comfortable helping with those bills". At least since you were considering letting her go, you have nothing to lose. I had to do this with one of mine, even gave her some other hints of things she needed to do and she got on board.
BT.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1773418]My tattooed blond baby continues to charm me, but also keeps bringing up the bills she is behind on, while at the same time telling me she's not ready for a physical relationship. I canceled dinner plans with her last night, and am considering cutting her loose, but as I write this she is texting me and I feel the pull.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1773342]On my way to STL for a week in June. I have two 6s lined up after my initial blast of about 20 emails. Both are young and cute with a little extra weight. One has a bodacious butt! The other huge boobs, either way I cannot go wrong.
Anyone in the area have any suggestions, I have used SA exclusively.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]Wow, STL is hopping! Just got off the phone chatting with a white 33 year old with a nice body. She's lively, laughs a lot, tells jokes, flirty, horny, taller than me without heels (I like them tall) and is all excited about some dashing man to come in from the east coast that she can show around and he can screw her brains out. I may have to go back to STL!
As of now, I'm chatting with 6 POTs from SA.
(face / body / personality / skills)
BigButt 20 AA (6/6/unknown / unknown)
BigBoobs 25 White (6/6/7 / unknown). Agreed to a date.
TallLively 33 White (8/8. 5/9/unknown). Agreed to a date and Tiggabounce.
HotWaitress 23 White (9/8/7 / unknown). Agreed to a date.
BikiniBabe 22 AA(7. 5/9. 5 / unknown / unknown)
STLHOttie 20 AA (9//9/unknown/unknown)
I'm flying in one of my bootycall friends for the first part of the week. She's going to drain me twice a day from Sun-Wed. So I'm hoping to have two out of this team that I can see the other 4 nights. Wed & Fri or Thurs & Sat.
BigTigg
Wow Tigger, nice roundup and you are bringing one in with you also.
I just did a trip out to the west coast and flew my ATF out to me and we had a blast. I forgot how many times we fucked but I was shooting air by the end.
Good luck,
Revvo
[QUOTE=Revvo; 1773729]Wow Tigger, nice roundup and you are bringing one in with you also.
I just did a trip out to the west coast and flew my ATF out to me and we had a blast. I forgot how many times we fucked but I was shooting air by the end.
Good luck,
Revvo[/QUOTE]Thanks Revvo.
Add 1 more:
MsCutie 26 AA (9 / unknown / unknown / unknown)
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Preliminary Stats
Sent out 19 emails
7 Have not read the emails
12 Have read the emails
7 Have responded favorably
5 Have not responded at all.
The two with the lowest rankings responded first! Imagine that!
Broke up with the "little princess" yesterday (for the time being) and went straight to my bucket list. Dinner and a movie with a 21 y o HCG. Didn't talk money. Told her to come visit me at work. And I work alone at home. She is thicker than I am used to (mostly muscle 5'6" 140) but had a good personality. We flirted and kissed a little. Met her on SD4ME of course. Might be able to just civi date her. Either way its the same. Hand them the cash or go out and spend it. Tonites damage 40 dolllars for her end. I almost hate to just bang her once, but maybe I'll like her. I like any girl that can drive to my house with no time limits.
First of all, it's been a while since I posted but I read here everyday. There have been some nice pics up here in the last couple of weeks. Congrats to all of you! Most of debate of course revolves around emotional depth and involvement in our activities with these girls / women.
I don't know if any of you have done this before. I think someone of here mentioned it before, but I can't remember who? I put up a false young female profile on SD4ME. I did it to kind of check out the competition and to learn from their profiles and approaches. It has definitely helped out. I feel even more confident than I did before. 95% of these guys have zero game at all. It is also amazing how many emails have been pouring in from guys who claim (on their profile) to make 300k+ per year that haven't paud the monthly subscription so the potential SB can't even read their email much less respond to them.
It was bound to happen. I had two steady SB's for a stretch of 3 months. It was good and right in my budget. One graduated a couple of weeks ago and moved away. It was bitter sweet to see her go. We had some good times and she's a good kid. I hope she is happy in life! I'm left with one SB who is a 23 yr old blond HCB. I see her 2-3x per month at $125. She is fun in the sack but more of a semi-pro. It's pretty strictly almost business like. She is accommodating to my schedule and good in the sack. But there is very little inter personal interaction between our meetings. So I've been looking for another SB. It was bound to happen. I'm out to a M&G lunch with a pot SB. She is 28, very pretty but a little overweight. Her profile and pics clearly show that. So we are eating lunch a sweet old lady in her late 70's or early 80's comes up to the table and says."I know you you're (real first and last name) I'm good friends with your mother (her real name). How are you doing?" I was slightly taken a back. But I replied cordially and was charming and polite. We went on with our lunch. This restaurant was probably about a 30 minute drive from where I grew up. So much for deep cover! Anybody else have a similar story?
Good luck in STL BT.
Hollywood, great pic. Someday post more about the special aroma business as I'm curious.
I am finding I really want to fuck my Motor City baby (7+, very wet girl) again. Once is not enough. The problem is we are so goddam sexually compatible someone is liable to get emotionally tangled! Not me I hope! Best cure for me is to fuck her a few more times to get her out of my system. However, there is a downside to this. As I am getting her out of my system, it is likely she will become attached emotionally. This is because there are three major routes to a woman's affections. They happen to correspond to the three main categories of seducers.
1. Through the Woman's Brain. Most effective route but takes the highest order of game by the seducer. Rock Stars and Presidents are usually in this category, exuding charisma, wealth and power, the baby (indeed nearly every woman) wants to fuck them even before she meets them. If she succeeds, she is his emotionally and her labia will swell for him as long as he wants her.
2. Through the Woman's Heart. Second most effective route and second most skill intensive. The seducer convinces the baby she is special to him, words of love often come into play, a major skill required is the ability to project sincerity (a skill I lack). Sex is intense as long as the emotion lasts.
3. Through the Woman's Clitoris. Least predictable route and lowest order of seducer (this is where I am). Mechanical skill required is minimal, requiring only that seducer deliver intense sexual pleasure to the woman, mostly involving exercise of sole organ in either gender dedicated exclusively to eroticism. If pleasure is delivered repeatedly, the woman's emotions inevitably attach to the seducer without additional effort or accomplishment on his part. However, the seducer usually loses interest as the baby's attachment grows, leading to the risk of confrontation and unpleasantness.
Clearly the categories can intermingle.
The girl I had to postpone last week so I could fuck Motor City got her little sugar lump in the mail and now wants to meet this week. Her face is a 6, but I hope her body is as taut as it looks. Not sure if I'll have time for her, as I am leaving the area soon, but she is definitely ready to open her pussy for Literal.
The young NC Momma of tragic circumstances: I'm planning m&g tomorrow. I think I'll listen sympathetically and tell her I can help some but can't take care of everything and if she would like to get an example of the help I can offer, why don't we step across the street to my hotel room? If she does, I will fuck her silly and then leave town. If she doesn't, I haven't lost anything but a little time. After a week or two of noncommital texts she is now calling me endearments so I think her mind has accepted she will spread her legs and allow me vaginal penetration if she finds me at all attractive. It's a big age gap though so I'm skeptical.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1771986]It is good to see more pics on the board. I understand why we don't post more and I always worry a little with each one that I post. There are random jerks lurking on every thread, LOL. None the less, I enjoy seeing the pics that go with the stories. I am glad we can share, keep the woman's identity hidden and still gawk at some great photos.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]The Chinese were right. A Picture IS worth a thousand words. Here's two of my latest, a hot 19 YO spinner SB. She actually wouldn't mind her pics being identifiable on the internet. She aspires to be a porn star. Given my experience with her I would have to say she has a good shot at it. She is cute, petite, tight, photogenic and can suck and fuck with enthusiastic fun and vigor. That's a lot of value for a $ donation.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1774045]The Chinese were right. A Picture IS worth a thousand words. Here's one of my latest, a hot 19 YO spinner SB. She actually wouldn't mind her pics being identifiable on the internet. She aspires to be a porn star. Given my experience with her I would have to say she has a good shot at it. She is cute, petite, tight, photogenic and can suck and fuck with enthusiastic fun and vigor. That's a lot of value for a $ donation.[/QUOTE]Very Nice. Luv dem hips!
Nice pix PTG. Cute pose too.
[QUOTE=Pats Fan1;1773915]I don't know if any of you have done this before. I think someone of here mentioned it before, but I can't remember who? I put up a false young female profile on SD4ME. I did it to kind of check out the competition and to learn from their profiles and approaches. It has definitely helped out. I feel even more confident than I did before. 95% of these guys have zero game at all. It is also amazing how many emails have been pouring in from guys who claim (on their profile) to make 300k+ per year that haven't paud the monthly subscription so the potential SB can't even read their email much less respond to them.[/QUOTE]I have helped a few girls by creating their profile and then having them give me their UN and PW. Very informative.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1772671]So with the morning texts / emails from the sbs my 21 yo NC cheerleader tells me she's really a couple years older and in tragic circumstances. She says she has a daughter with a deformity, absolutely no income, no folks to help her out. She wants to meet. Her pix are demure but if she's anything like them she is a very cute girl with lovely large breasts. No sign she's a dancer but she could be and I won't be surprised.
So the story is she's broke broke broke and extremely needy. We've agreed to an m&g later in the week.
In a way, if she is or was a stripper and the tale of the sick daughter is just BS, I'd be relieved. Then she's just scamming for sugar and I'll likely oblige so Mr Johnson can poke her cervix for a while.
But what if she's legit? What if she's a really nice young momma trying to take care of a sick kid who in desperation will offer her body to a much older man just so she'll have food for herself and her child?
Have any of you guys developed a code of morality that applies to hard luck cases like this if they are legit? My code so far has been pretty primitive, just "do no harm."[/QUOTE]I have just about heard it all. When anyone you know has an inkling you have spare cash they will put the arm on you for any reason whatsoever. SBs are no exception. I have had requests to pay tuition for the semester, for a move out of an abusive situation, hospital bills for mother / father / son / daughter / brother / sister and even to pay for an abortion because the bf knocked her up (at least she didn't try extorting me for that). There is an absolutely endless demand for charity out there. I am not a bad person but my piggy bank is also not bottomless. I think your code of "do no harm" is not primitive at all and is a good yardstick to go by.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;1774179]I have just about heard it all. When anyone you know has an inkling you have spare cash they will put the arm on you for any reason whatsoever. SBs are no exception. I have had requests to pay tuition for the semester, for a move out of an abusive situation, hospital bills for mother / father / son / daughter / brother / sister and even to pay for an abortion because the bf knocked her up (at least she didn't try extorting me for that). There is an absolutely endless demand for charity out there. I am not a bad person but my piggy bank is also not bottomless. I think your code of "do no harm" is not primitive at all and is a good yardstick to go by.[/QUOTE]At that point, she has made a decision on something that she thinks is going to be in her best interest. If she is comfortable with that decision, then I would be okay with helping her meet her needs, while she helps me with mine (and these are needs, both physical and psychological). I assume that she is going to find someone, whether its me or someone else. A moralist would argue that I should take the high road and not use "somebody's going to to do it" as an excuse, but I think that is disingenuous. At a basic level everything everybody does is motivated by self interest, she is acting in hers and I mine, and if those interests intersect in the bedroom, that's great. I also know that I am going to treat her with kindness and respect (well, as much respect as one can muster while engaged in debauchery) and maybe not everyone else will. Bottom line if she is a willing and hopefully enjoying participant, I'm not concerned with her motivation. If she acts as though the choice she is making is a horrible burden, then I won't do it.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1773638]Since you are considering dropping her anyway. Just remind her of the link between FC and Money. LOL. You can be subtle."You know if our relationship were a little further along, I could be more comfortable helping with those bills". At least since you were considering letting her go, you have nothing to lose. I had to do this with one of mine, even gave her some other hints of things she needed to do and she got on board.
BT.[/QUOTE]I did just that. She told me that she has a three date rule, and she is trying to get to the third date. I think I'm going to give her that much time and then either close the deal or not.
Relative to the "moral dilemma" post, a couple of hours after I gave her this little push, I texted her again and apologized for pressuring her, and told her I wanted her to be comfortable (which is true, its no fun to fuck someone who is not into it). I explained that I was just very much into her. She thanked me and told me she didn't feel pressured. So, message sent, received and we've rescheduled dinner for this week.
[QUOTE=Literal2; 1773941]1. Through the Woman's Brain. Most effective route but takes the highest order of game by the seducer. Rock Stars and Presidents are usually in this category, exuding charisma, wealth and power, the baby (indeed nearly every woman) wants to fuck them even before she meets them. If she succeeds, she is his emotionally and her labia will swell for him as long as he wants her.
2. Through the Woman's Heart. Second most effective route and second most skill intensive. The seducer convinces the baby she is special to him, words of love often come into play, a major skill required is the ability to project sincerity (a skill I lack). Sex is intense as long as the emotion lasts.
3. Through the Woman's Clitoris. Least predictable route and lowest order of seducer (this is where I am). Mechanical skill required is minimal, requiring only that seducer deliver intense sexual pleasure to the woman, mostly involving exercise of sole organ in either gender dedicated exclusively to eroticism. If pleasure is delivered repeatedly, the woman's emotions inevitably attach to the seducer without additional effort or accomplishment on his part. However, the seducer usually loses interest as the baby's attachment grows, leading to the risk of confrontation and unpleasantness.[/QUOTE]All this posting is taking away from my work. LOL. But the ROI on the intel is worth it.
1. We should all be so lucky. But certainly a nice house, car and a well maintained appearance don't hurt.
2. I have found this to be very important and although many times required (to get optimal sexual performance) , somewhat disingenuous on my part, most of but not all of the time.
3. I rarely kiss and tell in detail. And I don't know if this is the thread to do that. But I am going to give away one sex trick. It may or may not work for you. But when it does, it's like hitting a grand slam. And guaranteed to impress. And if you date girls that think with their pussy it's a sure way to hook them for some length of time. Everyone knows or believes that direct clitoral stimulation will usually satisfy the most effectively and easily.
But try the opposite approach. This works best in mish. The idea is to postion yourself so there is absolutely no physical contact between you and your partner except your dick in her pussy. Do not touch her at all with your hands, arms, legs or stomach. Do not thrust in all the way, do not make any direct contact with her clit. Only you sliding in and out of her in the smoothest possible position. She will naturally flow with this position. After a couple of minutes tell her to just think of you as her personal sex toy. She will close her eyes. Let her dictate the rhythm. As she gets closer to orgasm she may grab on to you. I repeat. Do not touch her. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. At which point you may or may not want to hold her or kiss her. Depending on how insistent she is.
This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. Like I said before this will not work on every woman, but when it does she will consider you in the highest sexual regard. You have now literally controlled her with your dick and dick alone. This embeds a powerful message to her brain and body. As bullet points 1 and 2 may not be possible or take time to establish. The best way to quickly secure the bond with the SB is going to be # 3 with a little sugar on top.
Another reason this technique works is that a primary reason for a womans failure to orgasm easily and repeatedly is (sometimes) distraction of any kind. This allows her to focus on one thing and one thing only.
Overall I have come to see sugar dating as just, above average looking women, dating above average spending men. Remember, it's never really about how much money, time, understanding or dick you have, but only about how much you are willing to give. My primary goal (and maybe yours too) is to have the best sex of my life. I like all the gf stuff too. But when I see a movie and couples are fighting, I just cringe. I am NEVER going back to anything like that. I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1774212]All this posting is taking away from my work. LOL. But the ROI on the intel is worth it.
1. We should all be so lucky. But certainly a nice house, car and a well maintained appearance don't hurt.
2. I have found this to be very important and although many times required (to get optimal sexual performance) , somewhat disingenuous on my part, most of but not all of the time.
3. I rarely kiss and tell in detail. And I don't know if this is the thread to do that. But I am going to give away one sex trick. It may or may not work for you. But when it does, it's like hitting a grand slam. And guaranteed to impress. And if you date girls that think with their pussy it's a sure way to hook them for some length of time. Everyone knows or believes that direct clitoral stimulation will usually satisfy the most effectively and easily.
But try the opposite approach. This works best in mish. The idea is to postion yourself so there is absolutely no physical contact between you and your partner except your dick in her pussy. Do not touch her at all with your hands, arms, legs or stomach. Do not thrust in all the way, do not make any direct contact with her clit. Only you sliding in and out of her in the smoothest possible position. She will naturally flow with this position. After a couple of minutes tell her to just think of you as her personal sex toy. She will close her eyes. Let her dictate the rhythm. As she gets closer to orgasm she may grab on to you. I repeat. Do not touch her. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. At which point you may or may not want to hold her or kiss her. Depending on how insistent she is.
This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. Like I said before this will not work on every woman, but when it does she will consider you in the highest sexual regard. You have now literally controlled her with your dick and dick alone. This embeds a powerful message to her brain and body. As bullet points 1 and 2 may not be possible or take time to establish. The best way to quickly secure the bond with the SB is going to be # 3 with a little sugar on top.
Another reason this technique works is that a primary reason for a womans failure to orgasm easily and repeatedly is (sometimes) distraction of any kind. This allows her to focus on one thing and one thing only.
Overall I have come to see sugar dating as just, above average looking women, dating above average spending men. Remember, it's never really about how much money, time, understanding or dick you have, but only about how much you are willing to give. My primary goal (and maybe yours too) is to have the best sex of my life. I like all the gf stuff too. But when I see a movie and couples are fighting, I just cringe. I am NEVER going back to anything like that. I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"[/QUOTE]I LOVE your sex trick. You are one great contributor here, a lot of value added.
IS another orgasm technique that can be totally in your girl's control. All you have to do is lay there and enjoy having her stroke your penis until she cums. My ATF grinds her clit on my pubic bone (are) and screams her brains out. I like watching her boobs flop around while I catch my breath from orgasm 1 and 2. LOL.
ATF seems to be pulling away. I am so sad but she seems to have a major bipolar disorder and in her down state she doesn't want to do anything. Damn! There is ALWAYS something wrong with these girls. I guess if they were completely normal they wouldn't be looking for love in all the wrong places.
My problem is I put all my eggs in one basket and when that basket develops holes I am loveless in Seattle. Hopefully her meds will kick in and I will get her back in gear.
Had another GPS in DC. Hot looking spinner student of the Asian Nation who bolted when I expected sex for her allowance. Really? Are there guys out there impotent enough or stupid enough to pay a girl significant bucks to escort her to the mall and buy her shit without any tit for the tat? Just asking.