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SJC decided today that the show cause hearings will be open to the public:
[URL]https://www.mass.gov/doc/trustees-of-boston-university-v-clerk-magistrate-of-the-cambridge-division-of-the-district-court-department-sjc-13551/download[/URL]
Once again, however tempted you are, do not provide your real name, real phone number, etc. To anyone! Moreover, no explicit talk on the phone! Better get a shitty service once than getting dragged through the courts.
[QUOTE=Hyperion11;7099121]SJC decided today that the show cause hearings will be open to the public:
[URL]https://www.mass.gov/doc/trustees-of-boston-university-v-clerk-magistrate-of-the-cambridge-division-of-the-district-court-department-sjc-13551/download[/URL]
Once again, however tempted you are, do not provide your real name, real phone number, etc. To anyone! Moreover, no explicit talk on the phone! Better get a shitty service once than getting dragged through the courts.[/QUOTE]Yep.
[URL]https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/hearings-prominent-clients-accused-paying-sex-mass-brothels-will-be-public-sjc-rules/QA6QMUQHMJD43LDSKV4EGCXGOU/?utm_campaign=trueanthem_manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=instagram[/URL]
[URL]https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2024/11/14/hearings-for-alleged-clients-boston-area-brothel-ring-public-sjc/[/URL]
All of the places I've visited for quite some time have cameras in the hallways, at the desk and at the door. I am trying to figure out how one can be confident there are not secret cameras in the room. Looking for thoughts here and apologies if posting in the wrong location.
[QUOTE=Zbtoy;7100487]All of the places I've visited for quite some time have cameras in the hallways, at the desk and at the door. I am trying to figure out how one can be confident there are not secret cameras in the room. Looking for thoughts here and apologies if posting in the wrong location.[/QUOTE]In my opinion almost 100% of owners would never put cameras in the rooms because they'd simply be documenting self incriminating acts, but there is of course the small percentage of owners that are either very stupid or want to be able to blackmail a high profile customer or something like that, if you are concerned you can scan around the room with your phone's camera and any hidden camera should show up as a brightly lit spot.
[QUOTE=Todas;7086171]Is this the redhead Chelsea who used to be in Brighton but is now in Charlestown?[/QUOTE]It is and she's always looking for new clients. I've seen her since she was in Weymouth, and I often need a break from her. She's going through a lot right now, employment wise and emotionally. Last I checked, she wasn't working for that client in the North Shore.
[QUOTE=LarryJay;7099834][URL]https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2024/11/14/hearings-for-alleged-clients-boston-area-brothel-ring-public-sjc/[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry, it's absolutely sad that they are making a real big deal about this. Those 28 must be powerful or political figures for them to make such an effort on this exposure. I guess they never learned from the Bob Kraft incident.
[QUOTE=Mattis1775;7101162]Sorry, it's absolutely sad that they are making a real big deal about this. Those 28 must be powerful or political figures for them to make such an effort on this exposure. I guess they never learned from the Bob Kraft incident.[/QUOTE]Why are there only charges against 28 men? Just curious what evidence they would have on those 28 men that they don't have on the rest of the client list.
They are connected enough and powerful, that they considered keeping their names on the down low.
If it was you and me, the names would have been released immediately, and we'd be charged with trafficking, which they now equate with simple prostitution.
These names may be released without any charges pending.
Talk about a double standard. I want to see what politicians and power brokers were involved. Maybe that we bring some changes, due to the hypocrisy of the politicians. Hey, maybe Krafts name will surface again.
[QUOTE=Mattis1775;7101162]Sorry, it's absolutely sad that they are making a real big deal about this. Those 28 must be powerful or political figures for them to make such an effort on this exposure. I guess they never learned from the Bob Kraft incident.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;7102004]Why are there only charges against 28 men? Just curious what evidence they would have on those 28 men that they don't have on the rest of the client list.[/QUOTE]My guess is they were dumb enough to discuss services and prices in text.
If you just booked an appointment, they could not charge you with anything since going to do "photography" is not against the law.
[QUOTE=Sounds;7102194]My guess is they were dumb enough to discuss services and prices in text.
If you just booked an appointment, they could not charge you with anything since going to do "photography" is not against the law.[/QUOTE]I personally know someone that has gone to a high end lady and not had sex, unfortunately he isn't able to because of a motorcycle accident. He still likes to look at the woman and has more money than he knows what to do with. I always wondered how the feds could prove these men had sexual relations if they didn't see. Having visited shouldn't be enough to convict or even try someone in court.
The standard process for show cause hearings is that they are private. If cause is shown, charges are filed and the whole thing becomes public. If law enforcement can't meet the low bar in these hearings, the whole thing goes away. As it should.
Evidently, the Boston Globe (which sued) couldn't wait to see if there was any actual evidence and the court inexplicably went along. If those implicated had private hearings they would be getting standard treatment, not special treatment because they are public figures. The Globe is pushing for special, harsh treatment because the 28 are famous and the newspaper wants salacious news to sell papers.
[QUOTE=Longjblues;7102140]They are connected enough and powerful, that they considered keeping their names on the down low.
If it was you and me, the names would have been released immediately, and we'd be charged with trafficking, which they now equate with simple prostitution.
These names may be released without any charges pending.
Talk about a double standard. I want to see what politicians and power brokers were involved. Maybe that we bring some changes, due to the hypocrisy of the politicians. Hey, maybe Krafts name will surface again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zbtoy;7100487]All of the places I've visited for quite some time have cameras in the hallways, at the desk and at the door. I am trying to figure out how one can be confident there are not secret cameras in the room. Looking for thoughts here and apologies if posting in the wrong location.[/QUOTE]Ma is a two party consent state. They'd be breaking the law (not that would keep them from doing something shitty with a vid) so the cops can't use it (I think. And. B. Everything I know about the law is from watching the people's court, judge Judy and law and order).
You are commenting on general crimes when brought by private citizens, or when police don't have basic evidence of crime, perhaps. But I have never heard or seen a show cause hearing involving prostitutions and Johns. What court did you see that happened?
Granted, I don't have personal info on all courts, but show cause are used selectively, and for less serious offenses.
Besides, we don't know what evidence they have against the johns, do we?
[QUOTE=Scraggy;7103176]The standard process for show cause hearings is that they are private. If cause is shown, charges are filed and the whole thing becomes public. If law enforcement can't meet the low bar in these hearings, the whole thing goes away. As it should.
Evidently, the Boston Globe (which sued) couldn't wait to see if there was any actual evidence and the court inexplicably went along. If those implicated had private hearings they would be getting standard treatment, not special treatment because they are public figures. The Globe is pushing for special, harsh treatment because the 28 are famous and the newspaper wants salacious news to sell papers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EarlSandwich;7103461]Ma is a two party consent state. They'd be breaking the law (not that would keep them from doing something shitty with a vid) so the cops can't use it (I think. And. B. Everything I know about the law is from watching the people's court, judge Judy and law and order).[/QUOTE]Regardless of two-party consent, per MGL c. 272, § 105 ([URL]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section105[/URL]):
"(b) Whoever willfully photographs, videotapes or electronically surveils another person who is nude or partially nude, with the intent to secretly conduct or hide such activity, when the other person in such place and circumstance would have a reasonable expectation of privacy in not being so photographed, videotaped or electronically surveilled, and without that person's knowledge and consent, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 21/2 years or by a fine of not more than $5,000".
Of course, there is an exception to this for warranted actions:
"(e) This section shall not apply to a law enforcement officer acting within the scope of the officer's authority under applicable law, or by an order or warrant issued by a court. ".
Can we please move the BTT topics to the General thread? BTT was never an AMP, and all the other discussions associated with it are there (since the BTT thread was closed).
[QUOTE=KatSuno1492;7103711]Can we please move the BTT topics to the General thread? BTT was never an AMP, and all the other discussions associated with it are there (since the BTT thread was closed).[/QUOTE]Thank You! I was just about to post a similar message.
[QUOTE=EarlSandwich;7103461]Ma is a two party consent state. They'd be breaking the law (not that would keep them from doing something shitty with a vid) so the cops can't use it (I think. And. B. Everything I know about the law is from watching the people's court, judge Judy and law and order).[/QUOTE]That only applies to audio recording, not video without audio.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
I was saving my tall BK cup to use and just discovered this morning that a spider was in it at the bottom of it. Still swishing away inside it, he was still alive. Yuck 🤮 I was just drinking from this, this morning. From last night. What will happen, probably nothing? But I remember seeing a show of where a spider got somebody really sick, horrible stomach / abdominal cramps and fever. It was 1 of those odd things to send people to the ER type of shows. The guy got really sick, bad reaction from it. Knowing my luck, it'll happen to me! LOL.
[QUOTE=KatSuno1492;7103711]Can we please move the BTT topics to the General thread? BTT was never an AMP, and all the other discussions associated with it are there (since the BTT thread was closed).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonBarzini;7103735]Thank You! I was just about to post a similar message.[/QUOTE][BLUE]You two understand that posting these reports is just as off topic as the other guys right?
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[QUOTE=Admin2;7104252][BLUE]You two understand that posting these reports is just as off topic as the other guys right?
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Duly noted and understood, but they did produce the desired result. Thank You Very Much!
[QUOTE=Scraggy;7103176]The standard process for show cause hearings is that they are private. If cause is shown, charges are filed and the whole thing becomes public. If law enforcement can't meet the low bar in these hearings, the whole thing goes away. As it should.
Evidently, the Boston Globe (which sued) couldn't wait to see if there was any actual evidence and the court inexplicably went along. If those implicated had private hearings they would be getting standard treatment, not special treatment because they are public figures. The Globe is pushing for special, harsh treatment because the 28 are famous and the newspaper wants salacious news to sell papers.[/QUOTE]Scraggy is right. The Show Cause in District Court is similar to the Grand Jury (GJ) for Superior Court. Like the GJ, the proceedings are secret, in private. If charges are issued, then it become a public matter. It's wrong to change a court's procedures just because a newspaper wants a story. The law should be applied the same, I. E. Justice is blind to the parties involved. Rich or poor. The rules shouldn't be changed because a news show wants something to increase their ratings.
[QUOTE=SalamanderFour;7105414]Scraggy is right. The Show Cause in District Court is similar to the Grand Jury (GJ) for Superior Court. Like the GJ, the proceedings are secret, in private. If charges are issued, then it become a public matter. It's wrong to change a court's procedures just because a newspaper wants a story. The law should be applied the same, I. E. Justice is blind to the parties involved. Rich or poor. The rules shouldn't be changed because a news show wants something to increase their ratings.[/QUOTE]The Local media ran a story on the COMM of Ma courts and the secret show cause procedure that most states do not have. If you or your attorney have connections, you can get most minor charges to disappear in that secret hearing that's run by a magistrate not a judge. They've never been open to the public. Mostly first-time offenders with minor charges avoid getting a record and ruining their future over a minor charge.
Anybody knows which AMP is this (pic in the news story)?
[URL]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/everett-malden-prostitution-investigation/3550185/[/URL]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2021;7106583]Anybody knows which AMP is this (pic in the news story)?
[URL]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/everett-malden-prostitution-investigation/3550185/[/URL][/QUOTE]San San Spa in Everett. Been there a few times, not anymore though. LOL.
Interestingly, San San Spa is at 904 Broadway. But the picture in the news report shows 906, which is next door and is actually advertised as Asian Health Spa which, according to the report, was operating illegally in the premises of an insurance agency office. Go figure!
[QUOTE=FlynNY56;7107060]San San Spa in Everett. Been there a few times, not anymore though. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlynNY56;7107060]San San Spa in Everett. Been there a few times, not anymore though. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DarkClouds;7107086]Interestingly, San San Spa is at 904 Broadway. But the picture in the news report shows 906, which is next door and is actually advertised as Asian Health Spa which, according to the report, was operating illegally in the premises of an insurance agency office. Go figure![/QUOTE]In this video from NBC10 [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbnAd5iBbNE[/URL] they talked about 904 as well, above the hair salon.
[QUOTE=KatSuno1492;7107260]In this video from NBC10 [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbnAd5iBbNE[/URL] they talked about 904 as well, above the hair salon.[/QUOTE]Because the idiot mongers were walking into the hair salon asking about massage instead of going upstairs.
Once again a few ruin it for everyone else.
[QUOTE=FlynNY56;7107060]San San Spa in Everett. Been there a few times, not anymore though. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you!
I have been hearing that's where lot of girls works at. Any intel on that?
Going to hit L. A in a few days and was wondering if any of you travelers have any info of any kind. Going to definitely hit korea town but have my Eye on this mature lady Annikagilf, I still have my HX account so Cali is an open menu. But was wondering if any of you have seen her.
[QUOTE=Todas;7129336]Going to hit L. A in a few days and was wondering if any of you travelers have any info of any kind. Going to definitely hit korea town but have my Eye on this mature lady Annikagilf, I still have my HX account so Cali is an open menu. But was wondering if any of you have seen her.[/QUOTE]Take a drive down Figueroa, very fun.
[QUOTE=Todas;7129336]Going to hit L. A in a few days and was wondering if any of you travelers have any info of any kind. Going to definitely hit korea town but have my Eye on this mature lady Annikagilf, I still have my HX account so Cali is an open menu. But was wondering if any of you have seen her.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the input, definitely have lots to choose from.
Special shout out to KOF, Jennifer is definitely on my to do list.
Ill report my shenanigans when I return.
Will be in Miami over New Years. Any idea on what not to miss? Where is the best street action both for pick up and window shopping? Any places that you just must see once in a lifetime? Club to hit, incall not to miss, what is a reasonable price point and where? Whatever info would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Todas;7131364]Thank you for the input, definitely have lots to choose from.
Special shout out to KOF, Jennifer is definitely on my to do list.
Ill report my shenanigans when I return.[/QUOTE]Confirmed Jenifer, great conversation back and forth.
Hitting some old school latinas, happy holidays to everyone.
Damn.
Only been in LA a few days and the talent has far exceeded my expectations.
We are definitely lacking in Boston.
Kgirls are plentiful here with great price point.
$320 seems to be the norm.
And other ladies have a quote of $300 or less for FS.
I love LA.
Boston needs to step up its game.
'Tis the season to travel. Italy kinda scares me for mongering. . .
For Amsterdam I MIGHT have luck using the Seeking app. Otherwise while the offerings there are safe, they seem generally pretty scripted and expensive.
Any advice / tips / confirmations?
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7146678]'Tis the season to travel. Italy kinda scares me for mongering. . .
For Amsterdam I MIGHT have luck using the Seeking app. Otherwise while the offerings there are safe, they seem generally pretty scripted and expensive.
Any advice / tips / confirmations?[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. When you are in Amsterdam, there is no need to look for any offerings online (unless you really want to for some reason), you just need to go to the Red Light District and choose a girl you like. The going price presently is 100 euros for 15-20 minutes including suck and fuck. If you are a slow cumer (is that a word? You might be out of luck if you need more than 30 min to ejaculate. It's a major tourist attraction and the area gets quite busy at night. Most people are not for sex there — just to look at the girls staying / sitting / dancing in windows. That's a fun place.
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7146678]'Tis the season to travel. Italy kinda scares me for mongering. . .
For Amsterdam I MIGHT have luck using the Seeking app. Otherwise while the offerings there are safe, they seem generally pretty scripted and expensive.
Any advice / tips / confirmations?[/QUOTE]Amsterdam, head to Dam sq, two blocks from Dam square heading towards Bulldog cafe to the red light district, watch videos.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red[/URL]+light+district+amsterdam they also have live sex shows no sure about participation.
Selling sex is regulated, so all the girls in windows have up to date STD medical cards and up to date on shots, window shop all you want at leisure day and night 24/7.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red[/URL]+light+district+amsterdam.
[QUOTE=Andir;7146717]Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. When you are in Amsterdam, there is no need to look for any offerings online (unless you really want to for some reason), you just need to go to the Red Light District and choose a girl you like. The going price presently is 100 euros for 15-20 minutes including suck and fuck. If you are a slow cumer (is that a word? You might be out of luck if you need more than 30 min to ejaculate. It's a major tourist attraction and the area gets quite busy at night. Most people are not for sex there just to look at the girls staying / sitting / dancing in windows. That's a fun place.[/QUOTE]100 euros sounds fantastic, but I was under the impression that there's a lot of upselling and little joy to be had if as a customer you want to stick to the "base price. " I'd be happy to be wrong about that!