Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7210293]And not because their girl is riding cowgirl.
[/QUOTE]I didn't catch this the first few times I read it.

Since I saw this topic mentioned in one of the other Seattle forums, I thought I'd take this opportunity to post a reminder that social gatherings (either at bars, hotel banquet / meeting rooms or private residences) attended by folks in our little community are an absolutely horrible idea. History has shown that certain organizations will use such events to gather as much information as possible and utilize that data as they see fit.

Not only that, but other members within that community also like to dig and find information on each other for leverage as well. I've heard some wild stories of personal back-biting and outings which happened as a result of those in-person gatherings. Seems that jealousy abounds and causes people to do wacky shit. All hearsay on my part, of course, but i've never been interested.

[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7219516]Since I saw this topic mentioned in one of the other Seattle forums, I thought I'd take this opportunity to post a reminder that social gatherings (either at bars, hotel banquet / meeting rooms or private residences) attended by folks in our little community are an absolutely horrible idea. History has shown that certain organizations will use such events to gather as much information as possible and utilize that data as they see fit.[/QUOTE]

If you engage in this hobby, You Are A Target. You Are Never Safe.

Don't ever talk about this activity with anyone face-to-face (well, except possibly with the provider you are currently visiting). Whether you know and trust the person in question or not. If anyone in Real Life brings up this hobby or this board, act mildly disinterested and make it clear you aren't into it at all. Keep a low profile and try to be the guy that everyone would think is the least likely person to play like this.

Remember that nails that stick up get hammered down. Don't get hammered.

Any of this shit. Just a reminder that karens in our society are causing your private engaging with the world's oldest profession massive problems and these karens deserve to be negatively impacted for their hypocritical intrusive meddling. Legalize it and karens lose all their power.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7219956]If you engage in this hobby, You Are A Target. You Are Never Safe.

Don't ever talk about this activity with anyone face-to-face (well, except possibly with the provider you are currently visiting). Whether you know and trust the person in question or not. If anyone in Real Life brings up this hobby or this board, act mildly disinterested and make it clear you aren't into it at all. Keep a low profile and try to be the guy that everyone would think is the least likely person to play like this.

Remember that nails that stick up get hammered down. Don't get hammered.[/QUOTE]

Well, last I checked, we do not live in a sane country. Big surprise there.

500 for a half hour, no BBBJ, no GFE.

That's a lot of money and not a lot of service to pay for an obvious drug addict. Just saying. What also gets me when I look on STG and that other board is there are a lot of obviously unattractive women (both overweight and coyote ugly) asking those prices for minimal services.

If you just want to get it done you can get the same service at any MP (and there seem to be fucking millions of them these days, and there's probably one within five minutes of where you sit) and do all that to a possibly old lady (but possibly not) for 200. So I don't know who is buying services at that price from obviously unattractive and fucked up people. And appearance matters a fuck of a lot in this business.

And an MP usually doesn't have fucked up scheduling.

I doubt many of those girls are getting many customers at those prices. I can understand if you are hot and have generous boundaries you can ask for more but for a plain jane starfish who is probably grossly obese I just don't get it.

Oh, and on the "drug addict" thing. They all fucking are. And I don't want or need that shit around me in my personal life, much less from the hired help.

I love all these ads on skip that say no bb anything, even asking will get you blocked. And then every pic they have in their ad is random guys with raw dick in the girls mouth or balls deep uncovered in her pussy.

[QUOTE=Gophy;7222782]I love all these ads on skip that say no bb anything, even asking will get you blocked. And then every pic they have in their ad is random guys with raw dick in the girls mouth or balls deep uncovered in her pussy.[/QUOTE]You bet. It's alive, well and time-tested, just like on that other board! The real tragedy is that so many clients still believe the advertising--and pay through the nose for their beliefs.

[QUOTE=Gophy;7222782]I love all these ads on skip that say no bb anything, even asking will get you blocked. And then every pic they have in their ad is random guys with raw dick in the girls mouth or balls deep uncovered in her pussy.[/QUOTE]Along these lines: there are 1 or 2 that post photos of butt plugs in use but then are very emphatic about nothing happening around the back door. WTF.

Seeing the news about dumbasses setting cars on fire in Seattle made me realize no wonder the hobby / dating scene is so bad around here.

People have nothing better to do.

[QUOTE=Wanker23;7223699]Along these lines: there are 1 or 2 that post photos of butt plugs in use but then are very emphatic about nothing happening around the back door. WTF.[/QUOTE]Or mouths open, tongue out, but they don't BBBJ let alone CIM or COF.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;7224093]Or mouths open, tongue out, but they don't BBBJ let alone CIM or COF.[/QUOTE]And that fake eyes crossed, Japanese anime squeaky moans bullshit.

[QUOTE=Wanker23;7223699]Along these lines: there are 1 or 2 that post photos of butt plugs in use but then are very emphatic about nothing happening around the back door. WTF.[/QUOTE]Not every girl that wears a butt plug does anal, some use it like a piece of jewelry. I was recently talking to a bikini barista about a picture she sent me where she had one in. Asked her if she's anal friendly but she said she'd never tried it, she also told me that it feels incredible while she's being fucked.

[QUOTE=Camhole;7224288]Not every girl that wears a butt plug does anal, some use it like a piece of jewelry. I was recently talking to a bikini barista about a picture she sent me where she had one in. Asked her if she's anal friendly but she said she'd never tried it, she also told me that it feels incredible while she's being fucked.[/QUOTE]Yep, I had a SB in Spokane that loved to wear one, and would allow a finger in her ass, but did not want to try anal.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7219956]If you engage in this hobby, You Are A Target. You Are Never Safe.

Don't ever talk about this activity with anyone face-to-face (well, except possibly with the provider you are currently visiting). Whether you know and trust the person in question or not. If anyone in Real Life brings up this hobby or this board, act mildly disinterested and make it clear you aren't into it at all. Keep a low profile and try to be the guy that everyone would think is the least likely person to play like this.

Remember that nails that stick up get hammered down. Don't get hammered.[/QUOTE]That other board just allowed the outing of a guy.

That is a first.

Is she really complaining about the rules of a social media platform?

Who is she to be critical?

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/its-war-no-its-not-the-russians-its-x.3007429/[/URL]

[QUOTE=GangBangLeader;7224732]That other board just allowed the outing of a guy.

That is a first.[/QUOTE]Wait what? Can you share the thread?

I start every day with my coffee and insight into the GPS board. If anyone ever needs to check on their real reputation there PM me and I'll let you know if they're yapping about you. Remember gents, we hold the power and have what they need. Sometimes it all needs to be ripped away to remind them.

[QUOTE=EasyLife772;7233791]I start every day with my coffee and insight into the GPS board. If anyone ever needs to check on their real reputation there PM me and I'll let you know if they're yapping about you. Remember gents, we hold the power and have what they need. Sometimes it all needs to be ripped away to remind them.[/QUOTE]Nice job!!

[QUOTE=EasyLife772;7233791]I start every day with my coffee and insight into the GPS board. If anyone ever needs to check on their real reputation there PM me and I'll let you know if they're yapping about you. Remember gents, we hold the power and have what they need. Sometimes it all needs to be ripped away to remind them.[/QUOTE]What are we ripping away?

[QUOTE=Facials;7235511]What are we ripping away?[/QUOTE]We rip away our cold, hard cash.

I used to have access to the ladies lounge from being premium. Back then it wasn't anything worth talking about. It was mostly just girls talking about random stuff, it wasn't the gossip or water cooler type talk that I thought it would be. Has anything changed?

Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know [I]everything[/I] over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

So, Information posted here has been very reliable for me. I'm not interested in every provider and so haven't seen a lot of the popular TNA providers talked about here on this board, so can't verify most of that. But information which you guys have sent via PM or shared in the open regarding providers I have visited has been dead-on.

How about the rest of you?

The people that won't touch anything without a condom are pretty unreasonable in my experience. Like they will yell at you about unprotected sex like you're literally trying to kill people.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062]Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know [I]everything[/I] over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me. [/QUOTE]I take everything with a grain of salt, I think there is truth in most posting, even if that info doesn't carryover to your own experience.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062]Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know [I]everything[/I] over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.[/QUOTE]I can count on one hand how many usernames I believe what they post.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062] A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response.[/QUOTE]That's the funniest shit I've heard all day. Most guys don't even know what tf their own girl is up to and yet they [I]know[/I] a working girl because she told them a few things about herself that may or may not be true? Agreed, the other board is full of deluded bastards that you'd catch in those old vhs matchmaking tapes from back in the day. From a "connection" all you want, the girls will always prefer guys like me who get in and get out. No drama. A lot of them need to check out are / client cringe and see what they really think about you. While it gets annoying seeing the same people posting, I assume the users interacting 24/7 on there are retirees or living off disability so I don't really pay them any mind.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062]Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know [I]everything[/I] over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

So, Information posted here has been very reliable for me. I'm not interested in every provider and so haven't seen a lot of the popular TNA providers talked about here on this board, so can't verify most of that. But information which you guys have sent via PM or shared in the open regarding providers I have visited has been dead-on.

How about the rest of you?[/QUOTE]Bro,

You. Fucking. Nailed it.

The simping is real over there. Somehow they all think having the "mommy's good little boy" attitude and defending their honor, and tattling over every little BBFS report is going to curry favor with a bunch of hookers who could NOT care less about simps as human beings, only as dollar signs. To answer your question, I've found most of the info here to be reliable enough to make or break decisions. I only use TNA to verify that a woman is real and won't rob me. Once in a while I'll dm a monger there who posted a review of a certain girl I'm interested in and I'll ask if she's friendly to certain topics and most of the time I get a response back. The only one tna girl I see anymore is one who grandfathered me into a good rate for quick visits. The rest I want to see are some of the lovely Thai ladies who have all moved to Bellevue, but that's too far away for me to go when my availability opens up to go for visits.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062]Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know [I]everything[/I] over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

So, Information posted here has been very reliable for me. I'm not interested in every provider and so haven't seen a lot of the popular TNA providers talked about here on this board, so can't verify most of that. But information which you guys have sent via PM or shared in the open regarding providers I have visited has been dead-on.

How about the rest of you?[/QUOTE]Having been in relationships with a couple of since retired providers I will say this.

One said 90% of the BBFS information about her was true. The other said that she would do BBFS with regulars so most of it was true. They both said the one thing they hated were guys that just "expected it. " Especially new clients. This is what makes providers upset.

They wished the info was not out there but they understood why it was.

They thought that most of the information here was true.

The back channel information is strong. Most providers do BBFS.

Only a few long time managed women don't.

My personal experience over the years twll me that.

When I used to hobby, I was rarely denied it if I requested.

LilyWhite said no to me. Maria Sanchez never offered it.

Several offered it first visit. Most times it took 2 or 3 visits.

Be careful who you bareback. Some of these providers think they own you if they are giving you BBFS. One lost her shit when she found put I was barebacking her best friend in the ass. LOL. Not my best day.

If I were still hobbying, I would take the information with a grain of salt. Just because you read here that a provider does BBFS does not mean she does it for everone.

If I read one member reporting it over and over for one woman, I tend to think it is not true until I see multiple reports.

They will call the guys here creeps. Which is true. We are all perverts.

The reality is, they shouldn't be taking loads and sucking dick for money if the don't want tgeir business put there.

& don't get me started on the pimp conversation. You would be shocked to know who is or has been pimped. (don't ask me. I am out of the hobby and don't have relevent info.).

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7246062]"I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that."[/QUOTE]*Bursts out laughing*.

The white knight mentality could easily be some student's dissertation. Facts are that if one of those chicks on the other board thinks you're attractive, likes what you're packing and thinks it would be alright if you were one of her regulars, she's eventually going to climb on you bare.

Now are you still merely a walking & talking rent / mortgage payment? Definitely.

Does it potentially sweeten the deal if there's something about you that she likes? Also yes.

[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7246696]*Bursts out laughing*.

The white knight mentality could easily be some student's dissertation. Facts are that if one of those chicks on the other board thinks you're attractive, likes what you're packing and thinks it would be alright if you were one of her regulars, she's eventually going to climb on you bare.

Now are you still merely a walking & talking rent / mortgage payment? Definitely.

Does it potentially sweeten the deal if there's something about you that she likes? Also yes.[/QUOTE]I am non of those and they still jump on bare. They like money.

Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]You never know what is out there.

I really enjoy DATY, but I'm even starting to worry if the risk is worth the reward.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]It is unAmerican IMHO.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.

[QUOTE=TheRealSG;7246300]Having been in relationships with a couple of since retired providers I will say this.

One said 90% of the BBFS information about her was true. The other said that she would do BBFS with regulars so most of it was true. They both said the one thing they hated were guys that just "expected it. " Especially new clients. This is what makes providers upset.

They wished the info was not out there but they understood why it was.

They thought that most of the information here was true.

The back channel information is strong. Most providers do BBFS.

Only a few long time managed women don't.
ocked to know who is or has been pimped.[/QUOTE]100% truth right here.

[QUOTE=Runner2448;7253724]Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.[/QUOTE]I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.

[QUOTE=BbKingg;7253985]I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.[/QUOTE]Good intel here. Did not know Columbians were easier for BBFS or Kttens for that matter. I do not go to strip clubs, but always had the mental picture that if she dances, she will probably want a lot to do bare (Monse being the exception). Columbian. Just reminds me of Judge Cannon. Wonder if any of those Columbians are into cosplay.

[QUOTE=TheRealSG;7253557]It is unAmerican IMHO.[/QUOTE]LOL did you mean DATY is unAmerican OR is refusing it / "charging extra for it" is unAmerican?