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[QUOTE=TwatTeaser;1326850]Actually I probably should retract that statement. I don't know the girl and have never visited her. I just know what I'm willing to pay and what I'm willing to pay it for. I also get an attitude when I hear the BS that pulls up obvious red flags for me. To each their own but I think a percentage agrees with me.[/QUOTE]Yes I'm one of the ones that 100% agrees with you. Call me what you want but there is NO WAY I'm paying $140 for a half ass rub and tug. Get real. You guys have to remember something before you pay these crazy ass amounts of money to these girls. First off, remember WE are in charge not the sp. When you allow your little head to bargain, you loose every time. Second thing if we refuse to pay these outrageous prices, and go somewhere else that best fits the price you are willing to pay with the serviced you want, what do you think the other girls are going to do? I'll answer that for you, they are going to drop their prices like the other girls because they aren't getting any business. It's the guys that pay anything the girl tells them to pay that screws it up for us that want to get what we pay for. Afaldo all the guys that pay these crazy prices let me ask you this: you pay all that money and how many times have you been promised things in the session that wasn't delivered? How many times did you pay way more than even you thought you should have and been rushed or not satisfied, how many times have you felt just plain ripped off? Answer these questions before you set up your next date or appointment. Listen guys, we work hard for our money. One last question I want you to ask yourself and I will stop the scolding. How much money do you make an hour? Why would you go and pay some sp your entire days pay for probably not even an hour and you leave unsatisfied? All she is doing is rubbing on you or laying on their back like a dead fish and you give her 5 times what you make in an hour. Almost a full days pay. Think about that guys. We have to make them go by our rules and we set prices. Seriously, think about how hard you work for your paycheck. Then on top of that we pay taxes on what we earn. Please wake up fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=KittyChaser010;1329062]Yes I'm one of the ones that 100% agrees with you. Call me what you want but there is NO WAY I'm paying $140 for a half ass rub and tug. Get real. You guys have to remember something before you pay these crazy ass amounts of money to these girls. First off, remember WE are in charge not the sp. When you allow your little head to bargain, you loose every time. Second thing if we refuse to pay these outrageous prices, and go somewhere else that best fits the price you are willing to pay with the serviced you want, what do you think the other girls are going to do? I'll answer that for you, they are going to drop their prices like the other girls because they aren't getting any business. It's the guys that pay anything the girl tells them to pay that screws it up for us that want to get what we pay for. Afaldo all the guys that pay these crazy prices let me ask you this: you pay all that money and how many times have you been promised things in the session that wasn't delivered? How many times did you pay way more than even you thought you should have and been rushed or not satisfied, how many times have you felt just plain ripped off? Answer these questions before you set up your next date or appointment. Listen guys, we work hard for our money. One last question I want you to ask yourself and I will stop the scolding. How much money do you make an hour? Why would you go and pay some sp your entire days pay for probably not even an hour and you leave unsatisfied? All she is doing is rubbing on you or laying on their back like a dead fish and you give her 5 times what you make in an hour. Almost a full days pay. Think about that guys. We have to make them go by our rules and we set prices. Seriously, think about how hard you work for your paycheck. Then on top of that we pay taxes on what we earn. Please wake up fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Problem is, as you suggest, mongers need to use self-control and be ready to walk out when they're getting upsold or denied service, no matter how aroused. Also, a monger has to try to avoid paying the SP upfront or else the SP can comfort herself about the customer walking out by reminding herself that at least she made some money anyhow.

Do you guys think it might work if, while walking out, you told the SP that you were going to post about her BS behavior online and make sure her reputation was shit?

[QUOTE=Fitzie00; 1329164]Problem is, as you suggest, mongers need to use self-control and be ready to walk out when they're getting upsold or denied service, no matter how aroused. Also, a monger has to try to avoid paying the SP upfront or else the SP can comfort herself about the customer walking out by reminding herself that at least she made some money anyhow.

Do you guys think it might work if, while walking out, you told the SP that you were going to post about her BS behavior online and make sure her reputation was shit?[/QUOTE]Yes I think a bunch of things we can do to affect the service we get and the price we pay. First if money is expected at the door if it's a price you think is fair, find out what you are getting for your money before giving it to the sp. Some sp's ask for the money upfront because they don't want to get ripped off, however, some get the money upfront because they had the intention of ripping you off from the moment you contacted her. I've done this before. I was asked for my donation at the door and I've told the sp I've been ripped of before and I didn't feel comfortable givingy donation up front without knowing what I'm really getting. I pulled put a roll of money and said I will leave it on the table. I noticed something else. Once an sp sees the money, the better service you will get because they are thinking of that fat tip they may have coming. Also, they will know you're not Leo because Leo aren't hard negotiators. Never give her your money and let her leave the room before the end of the session. I can honestly say this has worked for me before. When it didn't work just walk out and say you will go somewhere else. Now here's the kicker she may not change her mind right away, but if more than one person does this it WILL make her change her mind about this practice. Next if you get to your session and the price is more than you think is fair even if FS is offered, walk out right away. One thing you must remember you pay her she's not paying you. If she doesn't want the money another girl will. If you don't believe me think about this. Remember like 10 years ago when the economy was still good how hard it was to find a mt that offered just a HJ happy ending? Mongers took over and stop going to these girls who didn't offer extras. Trust me these girls notice these things and now look how many of them have gotten on board. And even the mts that don't offer extras the price is waaaaaaaaay lower than it was in 2003. Think about it. What a lot of sp's bank on is that this guy is horny and we are willing to do anything they say to get relief. Well most mongers do and that's what screws it up for all of us. Start walking out lets take this hobby back over and stop these girls from up selling, ripping us off, and shorting us on our time. Guys it takes a group effort for this to work. This won't work if we sent willing to stand together to achieve what we want. I see a lot of guys on this board that say I payed $$ for hh FS but it was worth it. Well she might have been a good sp but NO girls is worth that kind of money. If we stand together that same girl same service will be available for less than half that price. It's the people that think it's worth it because they had FS with this "hot" sp will continue to pay it. Trust me guys please wake up! Trust me the girls don't like you anymore than they do the next monger, to them you are still just that a monger. And believe me they are not laughing with you, they are laughing at you. Ok I'm done venting.

[QUOTE=Weezon;1329034]Great review. What was the ticket?[/QUOTE]The "ticket" is listed in ALL her ads especially the link I posted.

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• Location: Detroit, Royal Oak.[/quote]I went and checked this MILF out For a massage. Pretty nice looking with a biig set of puppies. She only does one hr massages. 75 which includes he but HJ only. Massage was pretty good. Worked my back and legs and shoulders. The flip I was hard as stone I noticed she kept looking down there at it. Which turned me on even more. At one point she saw I had caught her looking at my little man and she just gave me a bashful smile. I asked her to work my chest too because I was a little sore from working out she informed me she doesn't do chest. I complimented on how good her chest looks and asked for a peek. Was even willing to pay a little more but she didn't budge. That might be a YMMV type thing but I don't know. I definetly think that on HJ finish is the ONLY thing on the menu. Although it was a great HJ. Her technique is awesome and she strokes it until its empty. Definetly one of the best HJ's ever. I made a big mess and a big stream shot right on her shirt. I apologized and blamed it on me being excited from her being so beautiful. She just laughed and said she was impressed with my ability to shoot. Don't know if I'll repeat because I try to sample all the girls I can. I left her a. 10 tip and apologized again and said I hope this will cover the shirt cleaning. We laughed and then I was out. She does give you the full hour and a really good HJ for said price. It was a pretty good experience all in all. I'm a hard sell so if you want me to repeat you got to blowy mind.

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I called her once and asked. She is $200 p / h and extras are on the menu but of course she would not discuss that over the phone. I passed.

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[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;1329949]I called her once and asked. She is $200 p / h and extras are on the menu but of course she would not discuss that over the phone. I passed.[/QUOTE]I definetly don't blame you. 200 p / h? She needs to get real. Then on top of that high price not even know what kind of extras are on the menu? I would have passed too. Not to mention we can pay half that and get exactly what we want. I will not contact her either had been thinking about it.

Thanks for the intel.

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Well I know for you older guys you probably don't go for the older mild type. As I've stated I like to try a variety of different types of girls just depends on My mood. Earlier in the fall I decided to give her a try. She used to do massages with another older provider Jo Jo who I have already reported on. Anyways, this one is NOT a clock watcher and gives a damn good massage. I was really worked up by the time of the flip. Really sweet lady that really wants you to enjoy your session. A little older do some body parts aren't as great as I know they once were, but overall, a really really good experience. Want to repeat but haven't yet because there are so many girls I want to try out so haven't been able to go back yet. I do recommend if you like milfs you'll love this one!

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• Location: Detroit, Incall only Southgate.[/quote]Went to check out this MILF last year. Don't know how old she really is because she advertises with a lot of different ads and uses different numbers, pics, and ages on each one. My guess is she's about 42. Nice location only problem I had about it the smell of her dog is REALLY strong in the house. The massage itself was pretty good. Does go topless during the massage. Pics in her ads are accurate but her body does not look as good as it does in the pics. She takes off shirt but not bottoms. Allows hands to roam on chest and on bottom but only over the pants. Asked for more but was only given HJ which was pretty good. Maybe YMMV but not really sure. Shot a pretty good load. Probably won't repeat but overall pretty good massage but Bring your nose plugs.

Good to know. I would pass too. Nothing is worth that. Thanks for the info.

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[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;1329949]I called her once and asked. She is $200 p / h and extras are on the menu but of course she would not discuss that over the phone. I passed.[/QUOTE]

Hello everyone,

Anyone have any recent experience with Bambi? I saw the previous posts on her but never got a good consensus if she's worth the visit.

[QUOTE=Carlisle321; 1330209]Hello, everyone,

Anyone have any recent experience with Bambi? I saw the previous posts on her but never got a good consensus if she's worth the visit.[/QUOTE]Saw her once, not impressed. Looks arent too bad but not really like her pics. Not worth it IMHO.

[QUOTE=Carlisle321; 1330209]Hello, everyone,

Anyone have any recent experience with Bambi? I saw the previous posts on her but never got a good consensus if she's worth the visit.[/QUOTE]She has had other names but I only seen one bad report were she was late as hell but tried to make up to the guy.

[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;1329949]I called her once and asked. She is $200 p / h and extras are on the menu but of course she would not discuss that over the phone. I passed.[/QUOTE]One of the ways around this is to ask;"is that all inclusive" or "I trust that's an all inclusive rate". If they act really stupid or say something like,"all inclusive huh?" They you can just reply' "yea is that rate all inclusive or do you work on tips". Of course for that rate it better be all inclusive. At least you might be able to get a sense at what you can expect by getting them talking a bit.