Strip Club Reports

First off, I want to thank everydody on all the helpful advice given to me by you guys for my trip. Back in town now and ready to report (for what its worth)

Headed out Monday night (before the snow) and was able to find my way over to Wash Park.

Started at PT's in Sauget. Walked in, sat down, a nice blonde DD's 20 something blonde sits down on my lap. Quotes me 3 dances for 100, too rich for my blood. Took off. Looking around, good club, somewhat dead, dancers were relatively attractive and friendly. I would recommend but not for that money.

Next: in wash park, miss kitty's. Walk in, got stared down by two gangbangers sitting right in front and what looked like a 60 y/o black woman who was posing as a dancer, turned around and walked out.

Next: larry flynt's. Wow. Extremely impressive pole work. Nothing sexual about it, but these girls should quit dancing and try out for the olympics. Watched 3 dancers go at it on the pole, first was fat, second and third were pretty hot, not one girl came up to me the entire time. Took off.

Next: hollywood. By this point, mr. Happy feeling a little under the weather, so when a VERY hot, 20 year old blonde with a tongue stud, be cups, shaved, came and sat down on my lap, I admit it, got snuckered. 4 dances, . 25 a pop, topless, bottoms on, but moved down to show me her shaved kitty. Put a feeler out there for extras (had a hotel room after all) but got shot down. Next girl: brunette, D cups, fake, I'd say early to mid 30's, bigger tits than the first but the blonde danced way better. Have to say, first time I had a lap dance laying down on my back. Imho, even without the extras and not fully nude, pretty good.

Next: City Nights. Took a different approach, went back to Sauget, tried the small, hole in the wall club, looking for extras. Walk in, one blonde, 5'9, D-DD tits, I'd say 28, told me she was there because she works at Miss Kitty's and they "floated her over there" because City Nights is not doing well and this was their attempt to improve the club (both clubs owned by the same owner). Aside from her, there was the bartender, 3-4 other men, one hot blonde dancer who had her bf there and was only talking to him, and one very skinny (drug user? ) 30 something black girl. Wound up sitting down with the blonde, had actually a really good conversation. Told me how there was a shooting and botched robbery at city nights a few weeks ago. Also talked about cheeks and wiseguys (she used to work at one of the two). Confirmed extras were to be had at that place but also didn't think too highly of the quality of talent. For the record, did try to check out those two clubs after leaving hollywood, but couldn't find them and by this point, it was snowing.

Took the blonde in the back for three songs. Sensational tits, although one was bigger than the other, but nipples were huge. Lots of sucking, tit play, working the extras angle and at one point she did ask "what did you have in mind" which was the best opening I got all night. Quoted her an offer and didn't go for it, used the 2 kids waiting at home argument. Still, best conversation I had all night.

All in all, night would've been a total bust if not for other activitity taking place after the club hunt. (see st louis board).

Of course, having dreamt all of this and not really doing anything, I woke up bright and early the next morning having gone too bed at 8:30 and getting a good night's sleep.

Thanks again and if anyone makes their way up north, I'll be happy to send you any information you need.

For those who don't read the Brooklyn board:
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758289&postcount=1325]City Nights shooting victim dies[/url]

[QUOTE=KC Questor]For those who don't read the Brooklyn board:
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758289&postcount=1325]City Nights shooting victim dies[/url][/QUOTE]That was the man the blonde at city nights was talking about. be safe over there.

[QUOTE=Rileym]be safe over there.[/QUOTE]That's impossible given the location and the layout. Nothing to see anyway, or at least nothing you can't see at Kitty's. Don't go there.

It has been awhile since I've checked the forums. I posted a nice review about Harly and Bobbi from CMeows from last summer. Does anyone know if Bobbi is still dancing or working anywhere? I really enjoyed my time with her and was hoping to get to see her again.

Thank You!

Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well!

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well![/QUOTE]

I'm not liking this new V.I.P room idea at Kitty's already. It sounds like they are trying to be something that they are not. I like it that they are a lower level club with limited extras. I like the stages as they are for they are the best in any of the clubs that I have been too. I hope that what they are asking for the V.I.P doesn't give the girls any ideas for asking for more.

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well![/QUOTE]

I'm not liking this new V.I.P room idea at Kitty's already. It sounds like they are trying to be something that they are not. I like it that they are a lower level club with limited extras. I like the stages as they are for they are the best in any of the clubs that I have been too. I hope that what they are asking for the V.I.P doesn't give the girls any ideas for asking for more.
I am glad that they are upgrading there security. It would be good if the other clubs follow.

Good report as always KC. Sorry that the weather screwed up your plans.

Does buzzing people in really address the security concerns outside the club in the parking lot. Or is this an added level of security for the club and new VIP room.

[QUOTE=Missery]Does buzzing people in really address the security concerns outside the club in the parking lot. Or is this an added level of security for the club and new VIP room.[/QUOTE]

I don't know the motivation, but you can see the new door frame for the locked door. For those of youo familiar with Kitty's, imagine standing just inside the inner door looking out. On your right is the register where they take your cover (night shift) and the board with the girls' names. They moved the board to the other wall (by the bar) and put in a doorway... hell it is hard to explain. Let me draw a picture:

[url]http://www.mywildvacation.com/images/kittyfloorplan.JPG[/url]

The pink area is what used to be the "bookstore". Obviously my scale is a bit off. The area to the right (south) is the overflow room with the garage doors that they open for Friday and Saturday nights. They are advertising a swingers night for Saturdays now, and that area was roped off, although no one was in there. Right now the swinger area opens into the pink VIP area, but I'm sure they'll close it off somehow.

As far as lot security, I mentioned last week that they have a lot security guy, and Chelsea told me that he has been doing a good job -- of course, he is her father! I've never had an issue with MK lot security, personally. It isn't like Dollies or even Wise Guys.

Sorry if this has been addressed before. I haven't noticed it and thought I could pass along some observations from many years of driving around the WP clubs.

Be careful driving to and from the clubs on north Kingshighway, south Kingshighway and Forest Blvd. Illinois state police patrol the area, especially along Kingshighway, pretty heavily. I know several guys who've been pulled over on Kingshighway going to and from Kitty's for pretty thinly vieled reasons-they all think based on race-and ended up with DUIs. Basically if you're white and here you're clubbing and probably drinking. I don't generally hang out in WP at after dark but I've still seen a pretty heavy concentration from time to time even during the day. One Friday six months ago there must have been half a dozen parked in driveways along Kingshighway at about 3 pm.

So if you're drinking and want to go from one of those areas to another you might want to consider taking the back routes to the various clubs: from north Kingshighway to Dollies go north on Kingshighway to Collinsville Rd (second light) east, to Black lane (first light) south, to Forrest Blvd west, to Dollies. Don't speed or swerve on north Kingshighway or Collinsville Rd because State Park Place police seem to have a heavy ticket quota. This summer I was on a conference call on my cell phone, didn't notice the squad car and didn't signal whle changing lanes to avoid a dump truck. $150 fine for improper lane change. I don't think they're profiling though and I doubt if they suspect you're clubbing. White folks don't stick out there there like they do in WP.

From Dollies to the south Kingshighway clubs take Forrest Blvd east, to north 81st street (first right after the Interstate 255 overpass) south, to Bunkum Rd west, to Kingshighway. To go from the north Kingshighway clubs to the south Kingshighway clubs take the route described above but take Black Lane south all the way to Bunkum Road, then east to Kingshighway.

The back routes will take an extra 10-15 minutes but in my view are much safer alternatives if you're drinking. Except for State Park Place I've never seen a squad car from any jurisdiction on any of those roads. And, I've never seen anyone besides me pulled over in State Park Place. I just get the sense they have a quota given my one experience.

Be careful if you decide to venture into Caseyville as well. They seem to have a number of officers patrolling at any given time and I see people pulled overall the time. Again, black or white you're not going to stick out but don't speed or swerve.

If I am in WP after dark it's Kitty's and when I get in my car I pull away from the other cars to the east end of the parking lot so I can avoid a carjacking-from there you can see someone approaching from all angles-and watch the Kingshighway/Bunkam Rd intersection for a couple of minutes to make sure there isn't a trooper around. People have had DUI's coming out of Kitty's headed to the 64 on ramp as well. The ones I know about are all from state troopers.

Finally, don't speed from the PSB on either Interstate 64 to the WP exit or Interstate 55/70 to the Collinsville exit. I've seen speed traps set up a number of times on westbound 64 around mile 4 and eastbound at the 25th street on ramp (the on ramp just before the WP exit). Less frequently, but still often, I've also seen a speed trap eastbound about a mile over the PSB, where the road comes off the elevated section. Again less frequently, but still often, they work in groups of about six along 55/70 between Black Lane, exit 9, and I believe the St. Clair Ave exit-exit 3.

Earlier this week I braved the ice and snow for a late-afternoon sojourn in our favorite Sodom and Gomorrah. I started at WG and found a reasonable stable of 6 dancers, including Kelis, Desire, Dream, Carlie, Stormi, and a black girl who did not share her name. My intent was to relax a while with stage and lap dances and then hit the VIP room. The most attractive and all-around enticing was Kelis, who has a gorgeous face and smile, great personality, and is an absolute wizard on the lap. (So her midsection and booty are a bit plump and not necessarily height-weight proportionate. Still a very nice find for WG.) I was sold on a trip to the back until she quoted $275 for the half hour. Looks-wise, she is up there with some of the local escorts who charge $250+, but of course such a fee typically covers a full hour, in a much more pleasant environment. Some might have haggled, but it is my policy never to do so in such situations, as I believe that the ensuing experience will invariably suffer as a consequence. So I exerted some will-power and politely excused myself.

I ended up taking all of the remaining dancers back for privates (of the $25 variety). Stormi has a fantastic amazonian physique but some kind of strabismus or similar condition. She cut out after our first dance to take a call "from her kid" which was okay by me. Next up was Dream, very sweet girl, mid 20s, blond and attractive, some pregnancy-related belly damage. She advertised the same pricing scale as Kelis, but I wasn't as tempted. Desire gave a great stage dance, in fact possibly a little too dirty as I started to feel self-conscious in front of the other customers, but the timing never worked for a trip to the lap room. The black girl and Carlie gave the most lap-room mileage; Carlie, who is older, indicated an all-inclusive rate of $100 for the VIP room. Tempting, but she is not as attractive as Kelis, and I didn't want to feel that I was being cheap or settling. So I ended up leaving w/ no trip to the VIP room at all. My general policy in a SC is to split when I start feeling unsure about what I’m doing. Carlie did impart that the night girls apparently all offer the same type of menu that can be found during the day shift. If this is true, it's good to know.

Next to Dollie’s, only to find that at 7 PM, there were a total of 2 cars in the parking lot. Granted, this was the tail end of our recent ice storm, but the roads by this time were fine, and WG was lively enough. Must be fallout from the recent attack. A bad sign for this moldy but always reliable WP favorite.

Inspired by the all of the love the place gets on these pages, and overlooking my mixed experiences of the past, I next decided to hit up MK. I had a decent time and enjoyed a couple of decent dances w/ a blond named Molly, but I have to say, I still don’t see the allure of the place. I don’t care for the collection of Humphrey’s pals or indentured servants or whoever they are who invariably congregate at the corner of the bar. The mileage is low relative to the attractiveness of the dancers (by which I mean that the dancers generally are not much more attractive than those found at other much higher-mileage WP spots.) I’m not a fan of getting lapped on a metal fold-up chair. The place seems to draw a higher-than-average quotient of fuckos (and if you don’t know the term, take a few moments and read the hilarious "are you a fucko" diatribe at [url]http://www.zbone.com/internet/bestofzbb/bb021223. Htm[/url]. Finally, I made the mistake of visiting MK at 7 – I. E. , dinner time for several tipsy, 5’6" 140-lb strippers finishing up their day shift. I’ll leave out the details other than to say that the spectacle put the kibosh on my already-waning libido, and I left WP for greener pastures (I. E. One of those escorts mentioned above).

I'm not gonna try to be an apologist for Kitty's or defend the place. I totally understand why some guys won't like it. I probably wouldn't take my friends there for a first time east-side experience. There are a lot of regulars there who can make the place feel like a neighborhood bar. I know what you mean about the cronies hanging around the bar. I can't tell the number of times I've casually mentioned another customer and been told by the girl that he "works" there or is a friend of the owner/manager/whoever. Plus they have one of the worst private areas in the business.

[QUOTE=Dayzed]I’m not a fan of getting lapped on a metal fold-up chair. [/QUOTE]I do, however, insist that they have the best stage dances anywhere if you take into account value, looks, and contact. Nowhere else can you get a full song, full contact, in-lap stage dance for a couple of bucks. The "metal fold up chair" that you mention allows the girl to get right into your lap. Those chairs by the stage at Hollywood or Wise Guys have high arms that mean the girl can't easily straddle you. She sits at the side of the stage -- nice, but not as awesome. Dollies and C-Mowes have the same kind of armless chair that MK has, and their stage dances are good too, however the girls at MK totally blow the Dollies/C-Mowes talent away.

The big comfy armed chairs are good for sitting down and chatting, but two people don't fit in one very easily.

Mentioning CHAIRS - Anyone else tired of trying to find a chair to sit in, besides on pervert row, at the PT's clubs on Friday & Saturday nights?

Last weekend, I had to wander around 20min to find an open chair. And by then the cutie had found another guys lap to sit in.


Oh, and I like Roxy's security check - no metal detector - just one of the girls frisking you. I throw out the standard line, "Would you check there again, please." And tip a dollar if they do. :)

Ok, every once in a blue moon I get to go back up to the St. Louis area.

This visit was mid-December, on a Thursday

Decided to hit Washington Park, as I used to visit the clubs when in school in St L, about 5 or so years ago.

Went to what was then called the Jewel Box. But is now Hustler's. Looked tamer that what it used to be. Taken out the "bed dance" areas. Walked thru the store section and saw more security than customers in there. There were signs posted about loitering, and focused on no sex in the theater area. Looked like at one time somebody had figured out how to have a good time in the theaters, but they were trying to crack down on that.

Girls were not bad.5-8 range. But not very quick to come over (at least the prettier ones.) Moved on after 30 minutes.

Went to the new club across the street. Looked like the Jewel Box owner had opened this one. Very similar. Did enjoy the bed dance. But did not try the VIP. Got the impression the VIP was more of the same, no extra.

Decided to drive a little further in and saw that C-Mowe's had burned. But, it had a new place across the street.

Went in, may be 8 girls. One dancing. Most would come up and rub on you for a $1 tip. Not bad. One asked me for a private.

Private room is open, divided into 2. Bench built in around the edge, dark and not much to it. The lady went straight for it. Not bad. But you have to "walk the gauntlet" after the visit. Kinda puts you off.

Wanted to go on to Hwy 157 area clubs, but was tired by then. The Motel Six at exit 9 on 64 is great though. Quiet with wifi, reasonably clean.

PM for additional info on C-Mowe's