Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=DireWolf75;3263849]Absolutely! Now realize this is tax fraud and a federal crime. Anything I say below is purely speculation and not anything I have ever been part of.

If you are self employed or you have a company expense account this is easy and is being done all the time. You simply pay the girl with a business check and include it in your expenses neatly lumped in with other expenses. You don't issue a 1099 and bury it in your quickbooks in a line item on the expense side.

Corp expense accounts pay for hotel rooms, travel, parking, meals, drinks, entertainment. Many of us have monthly expense accounts simply submitting receipts for cash reimbursement. You have a dollar limit each month and reporting internally is minimal simply include receipts. We are expected to spend money and you simply allocate a portion of your expense account for your baby activities instead of actual business activity. In addition, you get paid mileage for travel which results in netting several hundo per month (300-1,000+ monthly).

Works like a charm and turns a guy willing to pay reasonable rates into a high roller in this market. Or so I'm told! LOL.[/QUOTE]Pay with a business check? Are you kidding me? That might be one of the dumbest ideas I have ever read on here.

Seen it many many times. I had a long time utr in Cbus that saw 2 other gentlemen. Both were business owners and both paid with business checks. She would have a few checks stacked up as she worked ft and was a true utr. I don't own a business and have never dine it but we aren't talking about street hos. These are legit babies not addicts. And nobody signs the check just signature stamped.

Expense accounts are the easy ticket for non self-employed. The more you travel city to city meeting with your babies the more the company pays you! And your babies thank you for the nice upscale hotels and dinners. In the way you would like.

[QUOTE=DireWolf75;3264544]Seen it many many times. I had a long time utr in Cbus that saw 2 other gentlemen. Both were business owners and both paid with business checks. She would have a few checks stacked up as she worked ft and was a true utr. I don't own a business and have never dine it but we aren't talking about street hos. These are legit babies not addicts. And nobody signs the check just signature stamped.

Expense accounts are the easy ticket for non self-employed. The more you travel city to city meeting with your babies the more the company pays you! And your babies thank you for the nice upscale hotels and dinners. In the way you would like.[/QUOTE]ONLY if your expenses are in line with the industry. Try justifying these out of line expenses to the IRS during an Audit. At the same time when you are self employed you STILL have to make the $. S in reality you ONLY gain the taxable portion and risk a nice IRS audit. Writing out business check for personal expenses is not uncommon when being self employed and using it as a deduction ONLY saves the tax portion!

[QUOTE=DireWolf75;3264544]Seen it many many times. I had a long time utr in Cbus that saw 2 other gentlemen. Both were business owners and both paid with business checks. She would have a few checks stacked up as she worked ft and was a true utr. I don't own a business and have never dine it but we aren't talking about street hos. These are legit babies not addicts. And nobody signs the check just signature stamped.

Expense accounts are the easy ticket for non self-employed. The more you travel city to city meeting with your babies the more the company pays you! And your babies thank you for the nice upscale hotels and dinners. In the way you would like.[/QUOTE]Be careful bro. The wrong girl takes a picture of your check and she pretty much has you by the balls. And not in the way you want.

Only the tax? We are talking about successful self-employed folks. Top federal bracket is 39.6%; state is 5. 75%; 2. 9% medicare; 12.4% social security. Even if at a 33% federal rate your are saving nearly 50%. Playing at half cost is advantages.

Expense accounts vary. I know guys that don't have limits but are expected to stay in a range and must get exception forms for large amounts, events. I know local guys that are only expected to spend 500-700 monthly. I also know sales guys that spend more than that weekly. You are expected to travel, wine and dine clients, attend events, and entertain. I can spend over 2 k on a 2-3 day trip.

Add in 54 cents a mile for driving when you travel around the state daily. Trips to Nashville, Chitown, etc net you enough cash to take your baby along at no real cost to you. Heck even staying in state when headed up to Toledo, Cleveland, etc. Nets you nearly a hundo unless you drive a hum V.

There are a lot of baby business lunches, dinners, night on the towns and travel dates. These young babies love going to a new city, staying in upscale hotels, playing in the pool, using the gym, enjoying fine meals, and hitting the town. Most all of which is not an out of pocket expense. Nor does a SO see the detail of expenses, etc. It is the best program going for those that have it available. Big big advantage in this world for these guys when competing with average joes trying to grab top tier babies. Enough of this and back on point in this thread!

[QUOTE=DireWolf75;3265092]Only the tax? We are talking about successful self-employed folks. Top federal bracket is 39.6%; state is 5. 75%; 2. 9% medicare; 12.4% social security. Even if at a 33% federal rate your are saving nearly 50%. Playing at half cost is advantages.

Expense accounts vary. I know guys that don't have limits but are expected to stay in a range and must get exception forms for large amounts, events. I know local guys that are only expected to spend 500-700 monthly. I also know sales guys that spend more than that weekly. You are expected to travel, wine and dine clients, attend events, and entertain. I can spend over 2 k on a 2-3 day trip.

Add in 54 cents a mile for driving when you travel around the state daily. Trips to Nashville, Chitown, etc net you enough cash to take your baby along at no real cost to you. Heck even staying in state when headed up to Toledo, Cleveland, etc. Nets you nearly a hundo unless you drive a hum V.

There are a lot of baby business lunches, dinners, night on the towns and travel dates. These young babies love going to a new city, staying in upscale hotels, playing in the pool, using the gym, enjoying fine meals, and hitting the town. Most all of which is not an out of pocket expense. Nor does a SO see the detail of expenses, etc. It is the best program going for those that have it available. Big big advantage in this world for these guys when competing with average joes trying to grab top tier babies. Enough of this and back on point in this thread![/QUOTE]You gents appear to be missing a key element of the sugar bowl, especially for those w / SOs. Keeping your identity secret from the SB. How in the world do you think you'd be doing that if you give her a check from a specific business? And you did at some point give her a photo of you, right? So she waltzes in the front door w / that and asks the dumb blonde receptionist who this handsome guy is and you are busted. There is a lot to the bowl that you need to be aware of, and the Richmond VA Sugar highlights thread is the place to learn it.

I'm just getting started with SA and am super paranoid that someone I know will my photo and my SO will find out. Should I just not post a pic? I'm guessing I should pay for premium and only exchange pictures after text / emails? I would appreciate any pointers. I'll go back and reread the Richmond thread also. Thanks. SS.

Farfar. Yes long term babies know exactly who I am. They travel with me, spend time down at the cabin, and stay overnight in my home. They may even come to the office dressed professionally and fuck me in the office. One must choose wisely and these are not escorts. They also have a vested interest in discretion and have nothing to gain from making said relationship public except biting the golden hand feeding them. The pics and video taken of our time together would easily retort any attempt at blackmail. I have had 3 babies like this over the last 2 years. One moved, one found somebody and we still talk, and the third is still my girl at least 1 more year till she graduates and moves back home. It so much better when you get to this point. No fake names, playing games, hiding your credit card paying for rooms and meals. Hard to fly and board a cruise ship with a girl trying to use a fake name!

All the others I've seen for less than 6 months and they never knew who I really was. There is another I've seen on and off for 2 years but she isn't trusted enough.

Again we are talking about long term true SB here not these providers all over the sight or the short term flings. There is a very public huge business owner that pays his girl with company checks weekly. I know. She used to be mine, but he can pay a lot more than me and she is worth whatever she asks. I've seen the checks myself (she still saw me a couple times after she switched to him).

To each their own. I've had exactly zero issues. In fact the only close calls I've had in 8 yrs were not with my babies that know me, but with providers.

[QUOTE=Andy1188;3261230]She is a lot of fun! She is definitely worth the time and the $$ I can't wait to set up another meeting. Sexy!![/QUOTE]I had a gala time with her. Very sweet and accommodating! Others should try her as well.

[QUOTE=SeduceYourWife;3264264]Pay with a business check? Are you kidding me? That might be one of the dumbest ideas I have ever read on here.[/QUOTE]Jerry's problem wasn't that he payed a provider with a check, it was that when the check bounced he wouldn't make it good.

Just about the same as having a public face and swapping out a provider's donation with Monopoly money after she's put it in her purse.

It's something that is guaranteed to come back to bite you.

[QUOTE=DireWolf75;3265333]Farfar. Yes long term babies know exactly who I am. They travel with me, spend time down at the cabin, and stay overnight in my home. They may even come to the office dressed professionally and fuck me in the office. One must choose wisely and these are not escorts. They also have a vested interest in discretion and have nothing to gain from making said relationship public except biting the golden hand feeding them. The pics and video taken of our time together would easily retort any attempt at blackmail. I have had 3 babies like this over the last 2 years. One moved, one found somebody and we still talk, and the third is still my girl at least 1 more year till she graduates and moves back home. It so much better when you get to this point. No fake names, playing games, hiding your credit card paying for rooms and meals. Hard to fly and board a cruise ship with a girl trying to use a fake name!

All the others I've seen for less than 6 months and they never knew who I really was. There is another I've seen on and off for 2 years but she isn't trusted enough.

Again we are talking about long term true SB here not these providers all over the sight or the short term flings. There is a very public huge business owner that pays his girl with company checks weekly. I know. She used to be mine, but he can pay a lot more than me and she is worth whatever she asks. I've seen the checks myself (she still saw me a couple times after she switched to him).

To each their own. I've had exactly zero issues. In fact the only close calls I've had in 8 yrs were not with my babies that know me, but with providers.[/QUOTE]Well, OK, you must have no SO or an open relationship, b / c I can't imagine this staying under the radar forever. There's a lot on the Richmond thread posted by JZLizard and others about the risk of discovery by SOs, and the approach is sobering. I think it won't happen to me either, and I have friends who've been in the bowl a long time w / no (big) problem, but I and others are really fanatical about operational security.

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I will never ever write a sb a business check. That's just me.

Also WYP is a total waste. All platonic brats.

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3265956][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1738058e-fe5c-4816-ab7b-7bbf0e3e8981[/URL][/QUOTE]Thats been going on fir quite awhile. Seems most guys guys don't care. Put a profile on SA and all of a sudden your a sb and most guys don't care or don't know the difference.

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3263203]What happens to your account / profile if you let your membership lapses or you don't renew your paid membership right away?[/QUOTE]Where are you finding all thes sb you write about if you have to ask this questuon? Anyone who has been a member for any length of time would know the answer to this. You revert back to just a regular member and you can't send or read messages. Previous messages if you haven't deleted them can't be read. Once you renew everything is back to normal and can be read if you haven't deleted.