"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3167305]My membership expired on SA this morning. I sent two message with my # to two girls prior. Hours after my membership expired, they read my message and text me. Looks like the SBs can still read the messages we sent prior to our membership expiring.

Makes sense to send out a few flares just before your membership expires. You may get some bites![/QUOTE]Indeed. I know that I can't read the messages after, so I go through them and copy and paste into text document so I've got the whole history of my interactoins with the ones I am interested in continuing w /. I am happy to have the membership lapse. Its just so damn compelling. I've got plenty of POTs and SBs.

Agree that sugaring on the road is fantastic. I've had excellent luck. I agree with both strategies. I have a town I regularly travel to so I will spin through the options regularly and gradually build up some POTs. Then about two weeks prior I ratchet it up. Last time I was overwhelmed with options. (Though one flaked.). Hell last time I hit it off with one and she offered a repeat with her friend who, as it turned out, was a regular of mine! So it can be great. Just take your time and focus on finding someone you click with.

I'm just diving back into chocolate options now. In DC it's a popular flavor. I had avoided it at first after some flakes and GPS experiences along with a lack of appealing profiles, but I've been seeing and chatting with some very engaging and bright young women. Hoping to get a taste very very soon.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3169380]I'm just diving back into chocolate options now. In DC it's a popular flavor. I had avoided it at first after some flakes and GPS experiences along with a lack of appealing profiles, but I've been seeing and chatting with some very engaging and bright young women. Hoping to get a taste very very soon.[/QUOTE]Good stuff. Let us know how it turns out. D. C. , Atlanta, and Raleigh, and. C. Are three of the hottest spots for chocolate.

If you contact SA through a support ticket to renew by gift card how long does that normally take? I thought someone mentioned calling but I don't recall seeing a number anywhere.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3167305]My membership expired on SA this morning. I sent two message with my # to two girls prior. Hours after my membership expired, they read my message and text me. Looks like the SBs can still read the messages we sent prior to our membership expiring.

Makes sense to send out a few flares just before your membership expires. You may get some bites![/QUOTE]Either you got very lucky or th girls read your messages before your membership expired. Once its expired they can't read it.

[QUOTE=Moohk;3171252]If you contact SA through a support ticket to renew by gift card how long does that normally take? I thought someone mentioned calling but I don't recall seeing a number anywhere.[/QUOTE]And / m I see that once a ticket is opened their is a chat you can enter.

Please don't take offense. I'm not trying to start an argument. I was legitimately curious if girls can still read our messages after our membership expires. It could be useful to know. It seems in the best interest of SA that they still can. The best incentive to get you to renew is a bunch of unread messaging waiting for you to renew.

It's good to know if my membership is about to expire, I can message girls with my number and let them know I may not renew. I can also see if a girl doesn't reply to a message, that she may not be interested.

I just asked a girl I've been messaging offline, if she can still read my messages even though my membership expired almost a week ago. Her answer was "yes I can still read your messages".

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3171336]Either you got very lucky or th girls read your messages before your membership expired. Once its expired they can't read it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moohk;3171252]If you contact SA through a support ticket to renew by gift card how long does that normally take? I thought someone mentioned calling but I don't recall seeing a number anywhere.[/QUOTE]Within 24 hours, I was good to go.

I am picking up tips on traveling and could always use more as I am new to this. Will be out of town soon for a week and will report when I get back as to how I worked it. Any tips on breaking the ice on SA for short term meetings? Thanks for any help on this.

I travel a fair amount and have had pretty good luck finding local SBs during my trips. I usually focus on profiles that have key words like "open minded", "free spirit" or "short term" in them, but will message any profile I find interesting. My initial message is direct, but low key and respectful. I mention I'm visiting from out of town, looking for companionship and usually offer dinner. I state that if there's a connection some intimate time back in my room afterward and a gift would be in order. My goal is to find someone who doesn't ask how much the gift will be. That helps exclude the GPS and UTR ladies.

I've had pretty good success over the last 5 years I've been doing this approach. However, I am finding with GPS, UTR and outright pros that seem to be more prevalent on SA these days my hit rate has gone down. On my last trip of the year a couple of weeks ago I was in Phoenix and did have lunch and some great BCD activities with an early 20's, very cute, petite blonde. The other thing I've been exploring has been using Tinder and Whisper rather than SA. On Tinder I put in my profile that I'm visiting and can "help out a bit" and on Whisper simply post a message including "out of town" and "generous". I did land one off Tinder a month ago in San Diego. There seems not be as much GPS on those sites yet. You will get tons of pros on Tinder in Vegas though.

Check out JZLizard's posts with his techniques as well. He pretty much exclusively does out of town and short term arrangements.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=FreekShow;3173461]I am picking up tips on traveling and could always use more as I am new to this. Will be out of town soon for a week and will report when I get back as to how I worked it. Any tips on breaking the ice on SA for short term meetings? Thanks for any help on this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreekShow;3173461]I am picking up tips on traveling and could always use more as I am new to this. Will be out of town soon for a week and will report when I get back as to how I worked it. Any tips on breaking the ice on SA for short term meetings? Thanks for any help on this.[/QUOTE]In terms of breaking the ice, I just try to be straightforward about when I will be in their area. One thing you quickly learn is that some of these girls post their location as a city other than the one they actually live in. Maybe its a city that's 20 miles from where they go to school, but 3 hours from their actual home / where their family lives, etc. They may be in a LTR or recently married and want a fling that's far enough away from their home that affords their privacy.

It just takes practice to assess their individual situations, figure out the scheduling, etc. It can be challenging and test your patience. I try to have multiples lined up for each night in a given city in case one falls through. I find most of these girls are interested in an occasional travel daddy as long as they have some level of interest in you. It's surprising how many of these girls are interested in random sexual encounters as long as they can do it safely, without drama, without cost to them. Fetishes for older men are common. Yes they are going into this with some expectation of financial help for the most part, but how much of that they expect depends on how much they actually like you. Motives of these girls vary greatly. Ignore those who say the girls won't stay if you don't pay -- those who believe that are meeting girls that don't like them much if that's true. Or they are just meeting UTR types.

One thing that is true though, the real SBs are looking for a classy date, and are not looking for some tight-wadding jobless schmuck, they are attracted to successful and intelligent men. A lot of times when I meet a girl, she may be scheduling time off work just to meet me, might be incurring costs like fuel in her vehicle or cab fare, so while I never discuss gift amounts up front, I always make sure in the end I value their time just as I want them to value mine.

I would get started trying to line up POTS as soon in advance as possible in the town you plan to meet. Think of it like a general networking exercise where you're making contacts in that city (as many as possible). Don't limit your focus to lots of texting with one, try to have lightweight conversations going with many of them. Keep track of what days they have school or work and which days they are more available, and try to schedule your M&G around that. Make a date night out of it. Pick a night where she doesn't have to be somewhere the next morning, in case the date goes well she will be motivated to stay overnight (I. E. Multiple rounds of fucking).

I signed up for a one month membership to SugarDaddyForMe with a Vanilla Visa. The site is well known for having alot of fake bot accounts to make you think there are more active SB's than there really are. However, some of the accounts are real women.

By The Numbers.

Messaged: 38.

SB's who read my messages: 15.

Viewed my profile: 12.

Viewed my gallery: 6.

Replied to my messages: 4 (all 4 also viewed my gallery).

I only got one SB to move to texting. We talked for about three weeks, and then she went silent both times that we had agreed to meet me in person.

In my area, about 60-70% of the SB's are black or mixed. If I was more interested in traveling the Hershey Highway, I might have had more success.

Tips.

-Always search by newest members. The SB's tend to just drop off of the site after three or four days. You have to message them quickly after signing up.

-Do Google searches on images. This will help you weed out the fake accounts. I found some of the most active accounts in my area had pictures of women from Russian websites.

-The fake accounts usually have profile that are very short, just one line profile descriptions.

-All messages in your inbox from when you are not a paid member are generated by the website's bots in order to get you to resubscribe.

The only two things I liked about the site was that females were able to specify what age range they wanted their SD to be in, and there are no lifestyle expectation selections, leading women to think they should be getting thousands to ten thousand per month.

SDX.

Outstanding! Great info. As someone new here I thank you all for the help. Filled in a few points here and there.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3171336]Either you got very lucky or th girls read your messages before your membership expired. Once its expired they can't read it.[/QUOTE]This is NOT correct. I have left my contact info in messages and been contacted by girls that didn't login and get my message until long after my premium status had expired.