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[QUOTE=JoeLooking;5279345]Realistically though once you filter through the fake ads then a lot of what is left would, without the internet, be street walkers or the chick you see in the store who's open to p4 p. Even on the nicer looking sites like eros it's hard to call most of the women high quality escorts. Many are older, some have limited services and some have pretty bad attitudes from years of guys simping. While I agree that 60 isn't going to get you a chick in her prime to let you pound away from an hour IMO it's about what most of the sex workers in the area deserver for a qv BJ. Realistically if you walk into a room where you're not comfortable taking your socks off then you shouldn't be paying $100+ for a qv and you definitely shouldn't be paying $300+ for the hour you won't be getting all of anyway.

IMO Raleigh is drying up because the drug and pimp trades aren't what they used to be. The 19 year old chick who would have 5 years ago been lured into being a traveling hooker is already getting guys to send her money for nudes and in some case nothing on sites like instagram. Even in major cities they're plagued with fake ads and over the hill sex workers charging too much. I can't for the life of me imagine what some chick can do to make herself worth 1000 per hour, there's defense attorneys repping serious charges that don't bill that per hour. Thanks to the internet that newly divorced chick also has no reason to enter prostitution because she has no shortage of guys in her town simping for her. I know a woman in her 40's who's had at least 10 guys she went to high school with, some of whom are married, all but propostion her for sex through facebook and I know she took at least 2 of them up on it. The avenues people for p4 p are just changing for areas like ours that were never really on the circuit for the top tier escorts anyway.[/QUOTE]I agree with the extreme point of view that it's utterly ridiculous to expect to pay $60 for Elle McPherson to do things to you that a farm animal wouldn't do. And then to come on here and complain that you can't find that.

I agree also that $1 K per hour for companionship is simply you paying her student loan bills and buying her that first investment property, if she's good enough at marketing she will get that. And of course we all know these girls don't really want to bang us, so many of them charging that kind of money will accept 3 K-5 K per month tax free and they have to bang 1/8 the guys to get it. I can't personally blame them for going for it and I applaud the ones that achieve it.

I will say that the handful of ladies I've seen at 300/ hour have all said essentially the same thing. That number is an inflection point that weeds out virtually all of what I call "price shoppers". And it's still a pretty accessible number for what I call "value shoppers", who are looking for something more than just the physical aspect of companionship.

[QUOTE=JimzCatz;5278461]All Ya'll mongers need to stop paying anything more than 60 $ for a QV. Some will doit for 40 $. Its ya'll that's bringing the rates up so much because these girls with GPS think they can get it.[/QUOTE]OK I get your point JimzCatz but what girls are you seeing that's taking $40 for QV outside of Street walkers. Give us some links to these girls.

Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275[/URL]#erotic.

[QUOTE=TheCommand;5279935]Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275[/URL]#erotic.[/QUOTE]There isn't an escort in this world that isn't doing something uncovered with someone bro. Could be all clients, could be regulars, could be people in their personal lives.

[QUOTE=RedPill71;5279792]I agree with the extreme point of view that it's utterly ridiculous to expect to pay $60 for Elle McPherson to do things to you that a farm animal wouldn't do. And then to come on here and complain that you can't find that.

I agree also that $1 K per hour for companionship is simply you paying her student loan bills and buying her that first investment property, if she's good enough at marketing she will get that. And of course we all know these girls don't really want to bang us, so many of them charging that kind of money will accept 3 K-5 K per month tax free and they have to bang 1/8 the guys to get it. I can't personally blame them for going for it and I applaud the ones that achieve it.

I will say that the handful of ladies I've seen at 300/ hour have all said essentially the same thing. That number is an inflection point that weeds out virtually all of what I call "price shoppers". And it's still a pretty accessible number for what I call "value shoppers", who are looking for something more than just the physical aspect of companionship.[/QUOTE]Oof, I jumped off for a weekend, and I get to come back to judicial debate--man this forum is something special.

As far as prices, I think most of us are in agreement that prices have been rising steadily for the past few months (if not longer). I think the original poster was talking about providers on EA and STG. No one was saying eros providers should charge 60 for a qv. I think everyone agrees that there are tiers of providers. You have the most expensive "courtesans" for the very wealthy, charging 600-thousands of dollars for the hour, but the wealthy pay it for discretion and education. Then you have the eros providers charging 300-600, and upper middle class guys pay it for looks and cleanliness--though I'm sure the average guy splurges on and eros provider too. Next, you've got the STG and them and EA providers that charge 200-300 for the hour, which service regular middle class guys. These providers typically have some of the following issues: demons, looks, education, cleanliness, safety. Finally, you've got the streetwalkers that charge 10-100 for the hour, and they service those just looking for a physical release because they suffer from ALL of the following issues: demons, looks, education, cleanliness, safety.

I saw a lot of poster arguing from different categories (courtesans vs average girls). In the specific category of STG, them, and EA providers, the qv's used to be 60 (after negotiation) for decent girls--I'm thinking taylorMade, Ashton, Stacey, Brittany, etc. Almost all of these providers have doubled their Qv rates. I don't think many people on this thread care about eros providers or "courtesans". There are other threads for those types of providers. Problem is all prices are going up where streewalkers are charging escort prices, escorts are charging eros prices, and eros girls are charging courtesan prices. I'm pretty sure all the guys that remember backpage can tell you prices are rising.

I was intrigued by the poster that said the reason is women are shifting their methods of communication from classified ads to facebook. I know a lot of dating apps have escorts messaging desperate guys with offers, so it might be that. Also, minimum wage is rising, jobs are paying more, which means girls are less likely to provide at lower prices when they can make decent money at a 9-5. Point is, prices ARE rising, due to a large number of factors, but I agree with original poster. If you can spend 200-300 regularly on a provider, go to eros instead of finding STG, them, EA girls and pricing other guys out, but everyone has their reasons.

Just hoping I could find some common ground.

[QUOTE=TheCommand;5279935]Does anyone know if Bailey does anything uncovered. I just want to know because I don't want to take that chance. Not to insult or step on anyones toes, it's just precaution.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/bailey-escort-raleigh-46275[/URL]#erotic.[/QUOTE]BBBJ (with cim) is the only thing that is uncover. Her BJ is top grade imo. Some reviews on the oth3 r site.

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;5278275]I have been meaning to create a post about her for a while now and just kept forgetting to do so. I have seen her twice and she was using a different name than Barbie. The first time I met her was off Glenwood. She asked me to let her know when I was about 5-10 minutes out and I did. Only to get there have to wait another 15 minutes in the car. Finally, make it in the room for a HH appt and she uses part of that time to take a 5 minute shower after asking me to get comfortable. Yeah, I was still clothed when she came out of the shower wrapped in a towel. I finally got undressed and the session started. Maybe I was catching her fairly new to the game on my first visit because the BJ was pretty damn good and the kitty nice & tight. Went into mish and flipped over to doggy, where I asked for more BJ before starting doggy. She was more than willing to do so and then I finished in doggy. She was a very pretty girl and just the size I like. Got her number so I could see her again and walked past her two pimps sitting on the stairs when I walked out. Same as in this post, the time was around 3 am or so.

Fast forward a couple of months and I see she is in Garner. Call her up to meet, she is available and I make that long ass drive out to the Garner / Clayton area. Sit in the parking lot for 20 minutes with her constantly texting me that she is coming out to get me. Finally say eff it and when I drive out of the parking lot, I see a car pulling in and could have sworn she was in the passenger seat. Could have simply said she wasn't at the hotel but was on the way, but no. She texts me asking where I am and told her she effed up taking so long and I was driving back to Raleigh.

The third and final time, so she was in Raleigh near New Bern. Send her a text and she says she is available and at her house, giving me the address. I opted for a car visit this time. I get there and again ended up waiting about 20 minutes with every excuse in the book. The first one being she needed to find her jacket (yes it was cold outside). The next text was, I am coming out in 1 minute putting my shoes on. Several more texts promising she was coming out. Yes, my little head was doing much of the thinking otherwise I would have left and not waited. Finally told her if she wasn't outside within the next minute I was going to leave. She comes out and we drive to a spot for the fun. About to get undressed when she tells me what her rates are now. Mind you, she had already told me in text what her rates were the first time and my attempted 2nd time seeing her. Now she wanted to almost double the rates for a QV to 140where it was 70-80 before. Allegedly it was because she needed to get a room. Told her she had lost her damn mind and started getting back in the front seat when she relented and said 80.

I had already wasted a lot of time dealing with her and was still horny as hell so I said ok to the 80. It was still a decent BJ and the kitty was nice but not as good as our first visit. Once we were done, I dropped her off and made a promise to myself that was the last time I would deal with her. This is sad to me, because as far as many of the other AA on some of these sites are concerned, she is one of the better looking ones and again the size I love.

Never again, though.[/QUOTE]Met her once, try to meet again a few months back.

The first time we met, I had to wait 40 minutes in my car (I had to handle some work-related task anyway) and 20 minutes in the room. Nothing but excuses though, but overall the deed was good.

The second time, drove from Raleigh to garner. She quoted 100 for a qv, of course, I brought that backdown. No qv is worth 100 honestly. I waited about 10 minutes on arrival and left. She kept texting me, and I was just playing along until I got home.

To add to this respectful debate, I mostly think we should base rates on our own individual criteria on what we look for in providers. Of my top 3 ATF providers, two of them charged $60 qv's and the other charged $80. The two that charged $60 are older providers (early-mid 40's), while the 3rd girl was early 20's. For me, I usually agree to see a girl based on appearance and location in that order. If I can find a girl that is close to me, and has a nice overall appearance, then I don't mind paying $100 for a qv. For example, Ashton and Ginger are probably the best examples I can use. Both of those girls generally stay at a place in close proximity to me, and they are both very beautiful girls with incredible bodies that are among the best looking out of all providers in the area. While we can debate on Ashton (I think she's a fantastic provider once you track her down), Ginger for sure provides top notch service, so. I don't mind paying $100 to see women of that caliber. And looking back at all of the women I've dealt with in the hobby in the last 7 years, most of the Ginger / Ashton-type girls have always asked for at least $80. There'd be occasions when they could be talked down, but those were outliers.

I did go through a stretch where it was $60 or bust. And more times than not, I was dealing with girls heavy in the demons, unsafe locations, etc. The only provider out of that time that I saw regularly was the initial Ginger. In general, I have been able to talk a lot of girls down to more reasonable prices, but at this point it's not worth it to me to go back in forth about prices. A lot of girls in this era often times take a long time to respond to text messages or setup a session. My time is valuable to me, and I don't want to be playing phone tag with a provider over a $20-30 difference in price.

We also have to look at the big picture here. Raleigh has become a premier metropolitan area thanks to all these countless articles about how great of a place this is. There are a lot more higher salary jobs in this area, so girls are going to push to charge more, and there's now more people in the area that can pay these prices without batting an eye. It's also worth noting that a lot quality girls say they charge less in Raleigh than they do in other markets. For example, Sami told me that she charges and makes way more when she works out of Charlotte. Also, a couple years ago this gorgeous European doll named Olivia came into town a few times. She told me she's lived in Vegas and Atlanta, and that she charges significantly less in the RTP area than she does in those other 2 cities.

Where I do draw the line is girls asking anything over $100 for a qv. The Cheyenne Rider chick told me a couple weeks ago she wanted!. 75 for a qv. Also, the portuguese Lexi charges 1. 50 for qv, and Ashley Rose charges 1. 2. I think this is absurd, and not sustainable.

I'm a streaky hobbyist overall. I'll go through streaks where I'll see multiple providers within a span of a couple weeks, but I could just as easily not see a provider for several months. And if none of my regulars respond, if I don't see someone who really grabs my attention, I will not engage anyone.

Any intel on this one. She is our of Fayetteville but started posting in Raleigh. Price are high end.

[URL]https://raleigh.rubratings.com/204651[/URL]

Just want to put things into perspective. I have been called cheap and wanting to fuck street hookers for $60 by some. There is a girl on the bb forum who has been lauded as a great time by some with these opinions. I have had that same girl for 80 BBFS CIP, and I found her dirty and unkempt. So please excuse me (not being sarcastic, being serious) for feeling confused as to how paying 60 makes one a street-hooker-looker, with apparent bad taste, but who actually found that girl to be one rung above street hooker level, for which 80 was paid (based on glowing recommendations! And for me, 60/80 same thing, Pubb said below what my exact scale is, which is 60/80/100 QV depending on the girl, and Pubb is spot-on).

I do not take offense for being called out for being "cheap, dirty" etc, I simply put this here to put things in perspective. One man's supermodel is another man's street urchin. And apparently, vice-versa. I just want to help put all these posts that I apparently helped spur into perspective. And in sum, I think it's clear a very good time can be had for anywhere from 60-100 any week.

P.S: Have been playing the SD game on some of the sites. These are the types of girls I dated in college and in my 20's. They were way too much trouble then, and they are way too much trouble now, the only difference is that there is no way in hell the same kind of girls I put up with in my younger days are suddenly GPS-laden multi-fuckers worth $300-$1000. I had enough of these types then, and with all their issues and high-maintenance expectations now, why the fuck would I pay top dollar for that? I literally told one of them she had way too many rules, needs and phobias for what should be a simple, weekly meet-up-and-fuck session. Do you see now why I prefer the 60 (to 100) girls? I don't have the time or space to put up with anything else. Let me get off and go.

[QUOTE=NeedSiteAccess;5279333]The man is right you know.

Never seen any provider charging $60 in this game for the past decade that was worth a damn. Breakeven on a decent hotel is two dudes per day at that rate, and to make it worth their while on take home its another four after at least. Never mind if they have a demon to feed. If you're getting plowed by 6 - 10 dudes per day, every day, then quality of services goes downhill. Its inevitable. If you're taking that much d, you aren't going to be able to shower after every session, get on makeup, have energy for the next monger, and manage the dozens of calls / hundreds of texts you get as an independent sex worker.

No thank you. I'll gladly pay $300/ hr for someone seeing just me or maybe one other for the day. Far more likely to enjoy the experience and it's worth the price tag for me.

If you're looking for pump and dump, that's fine. For some guys, that's all they want. But don't go to McDonald's expecting a three star meal. You can't order a double cheeseburger and expect foie gras and caviar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nick52;5280208]Met her once, try to meet again a few months back.

The first time we met, I had to wait 40 minutes in my car (I had to handle some work-related task anyway) and 20 minutes in the room. Nothing but excuses though, but overall the deed was good.

The second time, drove from Raleigh to garner. She quoted 100 for a qv, of course, I brought that backdown. No qv is worth 100 honestly. I waited about 10 minutes on arrival and left. She kept texting me, and I was just playing along until I got home.[/QUOTE]Well my friend you Dodge a bullet because if you back down the price from 100 to 70 qv she will give you mediocre CBJ while fully clothed for about 5 minutes. And I agree.

[QUOTE=Smugly;5276422]ELM 3/26 Who that?[/QUOTE]Can you provide a link to ELM?

I saw this particular provider about 3 times before Covid happened. [URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/need-a-real-fantasy-to-come-tr/190337154627[/URL] Each time I had a very good visit with her. She was very nice, clean, fairly attractive, no sign of demons, and was not a clock watcher. The only thing I thought was a little strange was that on a couple visits as soon as I got into the room she said that she had to go check on her "disabled brother" who was allegedly in another room. I thought it strange that she had to check just as soon as I arrived and not before. I assumed it was actually a handler or boyfriend she was reporting to but it was never a problem, she always came back right away. Anyway, I responded to her most recent post where she states that she is only doing out-calls at the moment and set up an outcall last night. I rented a decent hotel room because I never bring a girl to my home. Once she gets there and we engage in a little small-talk, she says she's hungry and wanted to go get something from the hotel snack store located behind the check-in clerk's desk. My guard was down because we had seen each other a few times before and I wasn't expecting a cash-and-dash. Well, you can guess the rest of the story. She had my cash in hand and never came back to the room. Lesson learned. Hopefully, I can prevent just one person from being scammed by her and her boyfriend / handler. She comes off as being very sweet, and if you like her body-type her pics aren't bad either, but don't let it suck you in. I learned the hard way. Never let your guard down even if you have had good experiences in the past with some girls.

You guys down here don't know how lucky you have it. I just moved down from the Jersey Shore a cpl months ago, and the selection down here is a pool of fish compared to there. Sure, you have to weed through a lot of scams and bullshit, but at least there are options. Look at this board. Escorts, bareback ratings, massage ratings, blowjob ratings. Back there I was lucky to fins anything on a good day that I didn't have to drive 45 min to see, and had to be happy to pay stupid fees sometimes because it was either that or sit home and jerk off. I'm not trying to knock anyone for shopping around for the best price, looks and service. As I now do the same. But just know that it could always be worse. Be happy that you have all the options that we have down here. Happy Mongering and stay safe!

[QUOTE=PenaltyKiller;5280250]To add to this respectful debate, I mostly think we should base rates on our own individual criteria on what we look for in providers. Of my top 3 ATF providers, two of them charged $60 qv's and the other charged $80. The two that charged $60 are older providers (early-mid 40's), while the 3rd girl was early 20's. For me, I usually agree to see a girl based on appearance and location in that order. If I can find a girl that is close to me, and has a nice overall appearance, then I don't mind paying $100 for a qv. For example, Ashton and Ginger are probably the best examples I can use. Both of those girls generally stay at a place in close proximity to me, and they are both very beautiful girls with incredible bodies that are among the best looking out of all providers in the area. While we can debate on Ashton (I think she's a fantastic provider once you track her down), Ginger for sure provides top notch service, so. I don't mind paying $100 to see women of that caliber. And looking back at all of the women I've dealt with in the hobby in the last 7 years, most of the Ginger / Ashton-type girls have always asked for at least $80. There'd be occasions when they could be talked down, but those were outliers.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree with this. To each his own, but the times that I've thought afterwards that it just wasn't worth it have always been decisions based solely on price.