"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6477082]I don't put my real pic on the site. I have someone else's pic and have the face heavily blurred. I do send real pics over text, but they are not posted anywhere online and I run all pics through fawkes first [URL]https://sandlab.cs.uchicago.edu/fawkes/[/URL] So far my testing indicates fawkes does work. Even though I keep my social media set to private, I've modified all of my various profile pics to be cloaked with Fawkes.[/QUOTE]Read the Fawkes site carefully. Cloaking the pic you send a girl does no good. The ones you must cloak are the ones they use to form the neural net that recognizes you, which you also said you do.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6477542]Read the Fawkes site carefully. Cloaking the pic you send a girl does no good. The ones you must cloak are the ones they use to form the neural net that recognizes you, which you also said you do.[/QUOTE]This is true. I searched several pics I used to share with SBs, even one with sunglasses, and the site immediately linked up to pictures that identify me personally. It's too late to cloak the pictures that are already out there on the web for me professionally. I'm very hesitant to share any face pics now with potential SBs.

Interesting. I play in the DC area and have noticed of late many more SBs are wearing sunglasses in their primary picture. I guess word is getting out about facial recognition technology. Even if sunglasses do not protect you.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6477605]This is true. I searched several pics I used to share with SBs, even one with sunglasses, and the site immediately linked up to pictures that identify me personally. It's too late to cloak the pictures that are already out there on the web for me professionally. I'm very hesitant to share any face pics now with potential SBs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6477542]Read the Fawkes site carefully. Cloaking the pic you send a girl does no good. The ones you must cloak are the ones they use to form the neural net that recognizes you, which you also said you do.[/QUOTE]Put another way: All social media photo uploads must be cloaked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ec4760d-a9fe-417b-95a7-d1d8bc9fd458[/URL]

Wants $$ for "meets until a relationship is established".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ec521f35-3111-4060-98a3-4e302f9d7098[/URL]

Doesn't want to talk about anything, at the start, except ppm and said she got $1000 from the last guy. Hard pass.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6478375]Put another way: All social media photo uploads must be cloaked.[/QUOTE]Too late for that, unfortunately. This brave new world certainly has its drawbacks.

I uploaded the pics I sent out to girls, to facecheck.id and it came back with my Meetup.com profile that I must have made 15 years ago, and for some stupid reason, put my real name on it. I changed it now, but not sure how much that helps.

Met a girl sugar baby in the hotel, she does not give BJ and also condoms. How do I convince her for bare and head? She says she don't do it.

Do you guys book hotel with your name? They ask I'd so. How do you manage the bookings and keep it secret?

[QUOTE=AdmirerSecret;6479230]Met a girl sugar baby in the hotel, she does not give BJ and also condoms. How do I convince her for bare and head? She says she don't do it.

Do you guys book hotel with your name? They ask I'd so. How do you manage the bookings and keep it secret?[/QUOTE]Always book hotels in your name. If shit goes south, at least they'll know who to put the blame on. If a chic doesn't want to give head, just flash your money in front of her face, use some "game" like most of these guys on here do, and push her head down on your bare boner. Tell her it taste like grandma's chicken! Also, tell her your prick is as clean as a babies ass and sweet talk her into bare like most of your comrades on here do. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Loop285;6475948]Thanks to everyone who answered my question and provided advice. I have one additional question. I had a friend about 5 years ago tell me if I was ever interested in creating a SA profile one day to never use my real pictures. They said people normally use pictures that look reasonably close to them. Is this true?[/QUOTE]It's safer to use someone else's picture that just looks similar to you. Even when you move to text messages, what's to stop them from uploading your picture to some website or using it to find out who you really are.

Like one other person posted, Facecheck. I'd does a damn good job in finding matches of your picture on other social media sites.

Just noticed a link for another site "What's your price?" linked below on the login screen of SA. Wouldn't that be fucking nice if we could just get to that level from the start? Anyone tried it? I'm not opposed to taking one for the team if I don't hear any reports.

[QUOTE=AdmirerSecret;6479230]Met a girl sugar baby in the hotel, she does not give BJ and also condoms. How do I convince her for bare and head? She says she don't do it.

Do you guys book hotel with your name? They ask I'd so. How do you manage the bookings and keep it secret?[/QUOTE]I don't think we really have a choice, and have to book the hotel in our name, in most cases. They usually check my DL when I get there. I have been to some hotels that don't check I'd, so with those you could book the room through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] with any name, and use [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift card to pay for it. Of course that could be the day that they insist on seeing your I'd, but it could work.

And you want to check all the important details with the sb, long before you get to the hotel. Of course they can still lie, and "change their mind" at any point, but at least it makes it slightly more difficult for the to do so, if they have agreed to it, if you have text right there to show them.

If you read back through the forum, you'll find WYP has been around for ages. It's owned by the same person who owns SA. Several problems with it:

1. It's based on a credits system. No one has said that it's very efficient.

2. Because of the credits system there have been many who feel that there are lots of fake profiles on there to get guys to spend more credits.

3. The WYP part is explicitly just for platonic dates. You are expected to pay just for meeting with a lady. There have been stories of successfully getting to intimacy, but those are VERY few and VERY far between.

Bottom line. It's the considered opinion of almost everyone on the board that it's a waste of time and money.

Of course, others may have a different opinion.

Good hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=PeoplePleasur;6480031]Just noticed a link for another site "What's your price?" linked below on the login screen of SA. Wouldn't that be fucking nice if we could just get to that level from the start? Anyone tried it? I'm not opposed to taking one for the team if I don't hear any reports.[/QUOTE]

When I arrived hotel. LEO was hiding in the parking. Maybe he was checking his tv and hiding, I took a shot and played careful, never shared room number picked her at elevator, hide the number. Always checking if she takes up her mobile and send details to someone. But after some time with her all suspicious is over. I was thinking someone come and knock door. It did not happen. This is first time for me.

Fucked had dinner and again fucked. She said she is going to sleep and go home in the morning. I left her own and went home. Maybe next time I should not do that. Learning learning.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6480045]I don't think we really have a choice, and have to book the hotel in our name, in most cases. They usually check my DL when I get there. I have been to some hotels that don't check I'd, so with those you could book the room through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] with any name, and use [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift card to pay for it. Of course that could be the day that they insist on seeing your I'd, but it could work.

And you want to check all the important details with the sb, long before you get to the hotel. Of course they can still lie, and "change their mind" at any point, but at least it makes it slightly more difficult for the to do so, if they have agreed to it, if you have text right there to show them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6477542]Read the Fawkes site carefully. Cloaking the pic you send a girl does no good. The ones you must cloak are the ones they use to form the neural net that recognizes you, which you also said you do.[/QUOTE]Even before I swapped my social pics with cloaked ones, when I did a search using a cloaked pic it wasn't able to find me. I also filled out the form on pimeyes to not track / index my face and that was pretty painless. I haven't done that with any of the other sites, but I probably will.

Edit:
I just checked again on facecheck.id with two cloaked images and neither could find me. The only thing I did with my social media pics is to change my profile pic for google, facebook and linked-in to cloaked images. I didn't do every pic I've ever uploaded, but I also keep Facebook set to only friends and I'm not all that active on any site. It's definitely a risk, but I have been burned by girls getting really upset about being catfished so I will generally send a real pic unless the person has given me a reason to be warry of them.