"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

One stop rule, I love it. I know I have had it in the car after the fact. Scares the crap out of me. One time I find a sweater in my car the next day. Actually I smelled the perfume. I pick it up and find a rig. About shit myself. And this was after driving 50 miles or more home. Out the window it went as soon as I could, no calling her back. Great rule, seasoned monger just learned something new! Thanks!

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3156699]Yes, exactly. You drove her to Cop!

A couple of things: Had a baby who was exotic as heck and killer in the FC and seemed normal as heck and pursuing a degree. But one day after she was in the bathroom for 15-min, I peaked in and saw a needle in her arm. Would never have suspected it if I had not seen it! Then a fellow monger dated her and helped her clean up so she wouldn't get evicted. When he emptied the trash into the dumpster he saw a ton of those little blue waxed paper baggies that dope comes in.

Second, I have a rule that I developed for indoor dates with girls when I pick them up (street, restaurant, club, dorm, etc) and that is that once we are done I will drive them anywhere they wish to go and drop them there: ONE stop and only one stop. We stop & you get out and I will leave. Had too many girls run me around to "pick up cellphone chargers" or "give money they owe to a friend" or "help out a sister or aunt. " That is always a sign they are Copping drugs!

The point is [B]I do not want drugs in my vehicle or even hotel room![/B] There is a legal "theory" called [U]constructive possession[/U] which essentially means that if the drugs are found in your car or room (under your control), they can be deemed to be owned (I. E. Possessed) by you. So if a girl dumps her stash in your car or room and there is a search, unless someone owns up to the drugs, LE can and usually will just charge EVERYONE with possession. LE charges and lets the lawyers figure it out. Drug charges are felony charges that usually don't just "go away" easily and require some bucks for a lawyer.

So yeah, avoid playing taxi service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3152617]Once the membership expires they won't be able to read it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I ended up renewing my membership. I have to work on moving them to the email or texting faster.

The long term approach can be rewarding especially, if the pot is being genuine and your working towards making her feel comfortable.

After hearing some of the horror stories and how some men approach them on the site. I am now more understanding.

I had one on SA that I was working on for months on and off. And I suspected that she was uncomfortable but didn't know how to come out and say it directly. She flaked on me two times but I kept communicating. When I finally got the breakthrough she showed up and we went to the FC. The only cost incurred was the cost of the room. After that she thanked me for having patience with her. And she wanted to meet up again. But I could meet right because I only travel to the city she's live. She went silent again but I have on snap chat but she's not aware because I use my Google number to communicate. She currently in relationship based on the snaps. But I'll keep her number she post a lot of information on what's going in her life. When starts posting again about heart break and relationships not working out. I'll send a message and follow up with her.

Another one that I was working on ahead of my trip didn't work out so well. I sent her gas money to drive to me. But she never showed up. It was a lost if $20. You win some you lose some. But I'm definitely getting better at targeting the women that works out for my current strategy. And with communicating with so many of them over time. You sort of see similarities that allows you to drop them or continue on based on your pass experience. I've had one last as long as two years and the other over a year.

How many of you guys take this approach, it's help that when I travel, I usually to the same city. I know if I was local my success rate might be much higher.

Is it true that SBs can't read an SDs messages after his membership expires on SA? I've seemed to get responses to my messages after my membership expired. I can't read them or respond to them, but it seems they can read mine.

I get a message saying I must upgrade to read messages. What message would they get? "Member must upgrade to read their messages?

Most girls seem completely unaware we have to pay to message and several have sent multiple frustrated emails that I wasn't responding while my membership lapsed.

Anyone know for sure?.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3152617]Once the membership expires they won't be able to read it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3157392]Is it true that SBs can't read an SDs messages after his membership expires on SA? I've seemed to get responses to my messages after my membership expired. I can't read them or respond to them, but it seems they can read mine.

I get a message saying I must upgrade to read messages. What message would they get? "Member must upgrade to read their messages?

Most girls seem completely unaware we have to pay to message and several have sent multiple frustrated emails that I wasn't responding while my membership lapsed.

Anyone know for sure?.[/QUOTE]Just told ya for sure. If they were able to read it then they could contact you if they were smart enough to write your info down or you was smart enough to send it and tell them your membetship was running out and you wasn't renrwing for awhile. Pretty simple. Once your membership runs out you can't read their responses in old mail. They can't read urs either.

I am wondering about other's experiences w / getting initial contacts from women on SA. I almost always have my profile hidden from search (I am super cautious as I have a SO). If I have a baby on allowance, I deactivate (when not on the site, and only go on while she's working) so she doesn't know I am still looking. If I message a POT and then she reads it but my profile is dead, I give my email if she is really interested by the words, but I realize that some won't take the trouble and I miss out / they may get mad. I just wonder what my lost opportunity cost is here, really. When I had no baby and everything in the open, I got all these crazy contacts from around the world. I don't miss not having those in my inbox. What do you get out of it by being fully out there?

I made a mistake last week not hiding my profile upon reactivating, and got approach from a local 31 YO who has an 'older man' fantasy. As things have developed she's likely a 'big' (not fat) girl, not my favorite type. She is crazy w / the nasty texting / sexting and I could see getting her for small sugar. I asked for a full length photo and she went crickets, though, so not a good sign. This experience did stimulate me to think if my caution is causing me to lose out on such 'over the transom' opportunities.

I have a regular baby now (OCHottie, 21) and did have her favorited so I could keep track of her. I knew she hadn't been on the site for the past month. I gave her the allowance for this month, and the next time I was perusing my messages I could see she deactivated her profile. Just a little reassurance.

Any brothers notice a difference in the activities and responses that your profile generate. When you have a picture in your profile versus not having any at all. I usually just indicated that I'm willing to email photos. I've notice that I got way more interactions my last time in the bowl compared to now. I was thinking maybe it's the none photo. I might have upload a photo and set it to private. And just grant access to those who I choose to communicate with.

[QUOTE=RappaHannock;3156520]So thanks to some guidance from some of you, I did get my account set up with SA. I was having an issue getting the fee paid without using a credit card. Ended up using a prepaid card and even had some issues with that but thanks to the SA staff, got it worked out.

So I am off and running and would like some advice from some of you who are experienced at this. So what I have found is that you will have people who view your profile and that is it, you will have people who favorite you, and you will have people who message you. So my first question is if someone views your profile and that is it, does that generally mean they are really not interested and it is more or less a waste of time to engage with that person on your own?

My next and most important question is if you see someone's profile that interest you and you want to message that person cold turkey, any ideas or thoughts as to the best way to sort of break that ice and then if that person does reply, how you measure the level of interest.

Any thoughts and or tips on anything to improve success and help any connection develop into a great relationship would be appreciated. You can offer that here or PM me whichever you prefer.

Thanks for the guidance I have already received on this forum. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]My mentor HolllywoodGuy said that you would never date someone who favorites you. That has been true in my experience. I think the point is you favorite someone you want to come back to, but if you really want someone, you message them. In my case I use favoriting differently. To keep track of people I am messaging, as well as stockpile POTs for the times I don't have a paid membership. Once I can message again, I tell them I didn't have a membership and couldn't message. That hasn't seemed to be a problem.

You do need to review all of the Highlights thread for hints about what to put into your initial contact. HWG had letters posted at one point. Someone may still have them.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/636e16fc-8e92-3ed0-3855-96022f725d3c[/URL]

Got his from her.

"I don't see Indians for less than 2000 per visit. ".

Take a look at this video:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGvrmltfMrA&app=desktop[/URL]

We've been missing out on a big opportunity. We could form a non-profit to help our poor millenial babies and all of our SB payments would be a charitable contribution, LOL.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;3158166]
"I don't see Indians for less than 2000 per visit. ".[/QUOTE]More like Weight Based Pricing. Won't see an Average gal for more than $250!

Had a great M&G w / a HOT blonde MILF last night, sort of a newbie, decided I wanted to get her to the FC today (room booked for holiday visitors), texted and messaged her on SA. I get a message back allright, but not the one I expected. From her hubby. A mild threat but I'm protected by my standard security procedures. I guess hers weren't good enough.

Just had an experience that reminds us all how important operational security is. Had a great initial meet w / a married MILF. There was some indication hubby suspected something was up. I messaged her on SA to try to set the FC. After she fell asleep, he takes her finger and uses it to unlock the phone, sees everything, and then messages me on her account, w / obvious content. Can't control how careful the SBs are, but neither can we rely only on a fingerprint scan on the phone anymore.

Haha that's right! I thought she was just a sweet kinky single mom met her at concert in town last year and we hooked up a couple times. I noticed she has been in or local graybar hotel for the past 2 months on a minor charge w fta. Last night I was bored and googled her name. The second site that pops up a sugar site I'd never heard of [URL]financialarrangement.com[/URL] . Her words on profile were very unappealing. After checking out a few of her porn vids (suzanne kelly & giselle ibiza) I may have to go play with her again! Haha!

I'm messaging w / a 19 YO waitress on SA. I ask the key question, 'have you dated much older guys' - trying to arm myself against those who think they want sugar but then when they see the reality of a photo of a 50 YO guy go 'yecch'. Anyway, her answer is that she has had two arrangements, with a 30's guy and a 40's guy, which was pretty out there b / c she's just 19. Then I looked at her profile, and she's been on the site less than a month. So, what she's calling an arrangement pretty much means two dates. LOL. My SD age is 56, so I'll have to play up the age progression thing. She's skinny and hot, WTH.