The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=KoolKeith323;6560889]After living in Southern California for 28 yrs, and moving her to FL a month ago, I've never seen so many no AA ads on just about every linked clicked on it seems like. Back in CA, they had them, and 99.9% of the time they have black and Latino pimps, who are gang members, random dudes who are dealers on the street meeting them in strip clubs etc, and it's mostly the girls ages 18-28. Even some older than that have pimps or black or BF from what I've seen, and heard from other independent ladies who see AA, who escaped pimps and / or bookers through agencies, that might know another girl. I've seen pics of their pimps and all through their social media. Instagram is a big one. Many times they get way too comfortable posting, and end up slipping posting pics of pimp daddy, parties doing illegal stuff, flashing money, guns, drugs, etc. One thing I always do, is Google phone numbers, social media names they use, etc. You'll find some interesting things at times. I've personally seen pimps leaving a ladies room I called going next door, and running out sitting in his car on incalls. When I see that, I left immediately. When I'm in an area where a lady is hosting I have interest in, they won't think at times giving me their exact incall location without room number. They always ask for ETA. I can be minutes away, and say ETA is 15-20 min. I'll head straight to the location, park where I don't stand out, or park where they tell me to park. As time goes by, I'll text back saying I'm 5 min away. I've had a lot success when they give their room numbers. When they do, I'll park at a distance where the room is visible. You wouldn't believe the things I've seen as mentioned, like pimp going into the room next door, running down to his car sitting in it facing the room, or just pacing around as if he's some local tourist. LOL! When I seen that, I bailed. Then I'll get texts asking where are you? I'm here ready. It's safe, blah blah blah.

I've asked many girls who see AA, and some who will low key see AA if they're older. From their experiences or what they've been told getting into the game, AA was being way too rough, been robbed, afraid they'll be robbed, always ask for bare services, won't pay after sessions, etc.

From my experience and observation here in FL (Daytona / NSB, DeLand areas), I've had the most successful seeing single independent mother's who are MILFs in their early to late 30's, and you can see pics of baby seats in their selfie backgrounds in their cars, toys on the floor in bedrooms, pics of their kid (s) in living room and kitchen fridge. I've met 4 of them.

What's even more interesting unlike CA, many of these women post super old ass pics, don't look anything like themselves when I ask to text an updated pic, and many are just cracked out looking on that stuff. It's sad as hell.[/QUOTE]Truth, most pimps are intimidated by black men. This is no disrespect to white guys, but I have had these discussions with ladies. Usually if there is an issue or a scam, white men will walk away. Black men are willing to use aggression and violence in a attempted robbery or scam. They tell white man, I'm done, they say reall? And just leave. Black man says, give me my money back then. Then it escalates.

[QUOTE=Miahdog;6590933]Truth, most pimps are intimidated by black men. This is no disrespect to white guys, but I have had these discussions with ladies. Usually if there is an issue or a scam, white men will walk away. Black men are willing to use aggression and violence in a attempted robbery or scam. They tell white man, I'm done, they say reall? And just leave. Black man says, give me my money back then. Then it escalates.[/QUOTE]I kinda agree with you. I had a dream that I met up with this Spanish girl. I already was being gyped. My fantasy had us doing FS / BD but she tried to say she didn't do that for a qv. So I was already late for something, so I just settled for lip service. After I woke up I went to the bathroom and left my phone on her bed. I heard the door open and she told this guy that I was recording on my phone. But my phone was locked so he couldn't open it. I literally thought a nightmare was going to start and that I was going to die. She was pissed off but he was being calm and I opened up my phone and showed him the last pic in my camera roll. Now he was a short stocky thug, but I'm a pretty big strapping black man my self. When he tried to tell her there was no recording. She kept arguing with him. But he kept arguing with her that there was nothing there. I could tell that he didn't want any smoke. He was prepared for it bc that's his job but he didn't feel like it was worth battling me for that reason. He knew an altercation with me would be risky.

[QUOTE=Miahdog;6590933]Truth, most pimps are intimidated by black men. This is no disrespect to white guys, but I have had these discussions with ladies. Usually if there is an issue or a scam, white men will walk away. Black men are willing to use aggression and violence in a attempted robbery or scam. They tell white man, I'm done, they say reall? And just leave. Black man says, give me my money back then. Then it escalates.[/QUOTE]I kinda agree with you. I had a dream that I met up with this Spanish girl. I already was being gyped. My fantasy had us doing FS / BD but she tried to say she didn't do that for a qv. So I was already late for something, so I just settled for lip service. After I woke up I went to the bathroom and left my phone on her bed. I heard the door open and she told this guy that I was recording on my phone. But my phone was locked so he couldn't open it. I literally thought a nightmare was going to start and that I was going to die. She was pissed off but he was being calm and I opened up my phone and showed him the last pic in my camera roll. Now he was a short stocky thug, but I'm a pretty big strapping black man my self. When he tried to tell her there was no recording. She kept arguing with him. But he kept arguing with her that there was nothing there. I could tell that he didn't want any smoke. He was prepared for it bc that's his job but he didn't feel like it was worth battling me for that reason. He knew an altercation with me would be risky.

This means a couple of things.

1) Th GPS is going to go away, as soon as they loose regulars. They will lower prices and offer more.

2) Scams are going to go through the roof.

3) There will be girls that are not pros looking to this for money.

About 6 months GPS should be gone.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6593630]This means a couple of things.

1) Th GPS is going to go away, as soon as they loose regulars. They will lower prices and offer more.

2) Scams are going to go through the roof.

3) There will be girls that are not pros looking to this for money.

About 6 months GPS should be gone.[/QUOTE]I am involved in a business that relies upon disposable income. (NO, it is not involved with the hobby.) Never in this business have I seen more "lookie-Lou's," and people not buying anything at all. It has gotten to be downright terrifying at this point. It's not just because of the summer doldrums, either.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6593630]This means a couple of things.

1) Th GPS is going to go away, as soon as they loose regulars. They will lower prices and offer more.

2) Scams are going to go through the roof.

3) There will be girls that are not pros looking to this for money.

About 6 months GPS should be gone.[/QUOTE]With one exception. Scams have already been going through the roof.

RP.

Being a big white guy I can tell you I believe that pimps, security or boyfriends aren't looking for a challenge when confronting someone.

They are looking for a quick easy score situation. Race might play into that, but size does as well. I have never been challenged because not only I am cautious but I am definitely not someone to be messed with. That being said I don't put myself into situations where I believe that will ever happen. I prefer no drama.

[QUOTE=SingleStroller;6591548]I kinda agree with you. I had a dream that I met up with this Spanish girl. I already was being gyped. My fantasy had us doing FS / BD but she tried to say she didn't do that for a qv. So I was already late for something, so I just settled for lip service. After I woke up I went to the bathroom and left my phone on her bed. I heard the door open and she told this guy that I was recording on my phone. But my phone was locked so he couldn't open it. I literally thought a nightmare was going to start and that I was going to die. She was pissed off but he was being calm and I opened up my phone and showed him the last pic in my camera roll. Now he was a short stocky thug, but I'm a pretty big strapping black man my self. When he tried to tell her there was no recording. She kept arguing with him. But he kept arguing with her that there was nothing there. I could tell that he didn't want any smoke. He was prepared for it bc that's his job but he didn't feel like it was worth battling me for that reason. He knew an altercation with me would be risky.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RP469;6593905]With one exception. Scams have already been going through the roof.

RP.[/QUOTE]The sad part is that means the scams work so some poor saps are out there losing allot of $.

GS.

OMG. Its cici pizza! Lmao 🤣.

Has anybody heard from Grain 56 lately?

He has not posted anything in almost 6 months.

Just wondering, but what if we had a thread or a data base that could search by partial phone. Its hard if you don't know the name of the provider or when there is a duplicate name. It could be partial, moderated and of course protect the UTRs.

So let's say I want to check on an ad or have found an ad is a scam. We have something here that shows a partial number when you don't know the name.

So if the number is 555XXXX234 we could have a rule that posts like 5*1234, so you can search the 1234 and use the first 5 digit as verification. Then report scam or give feedback if no name available or in ad or change name?

No UTR numbers.

Just a thought.

The girls you book for 4. $$ are pulling up in a brand new mercedes and your car is 12 years old and a POS.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;6619385]The girls you book for 4. $$ are pulling up in a brand new mercedes and your car is 12 years old and a POS.[/QUOTE]When I was living in San Diego, it was the opposite. Girls drove up for outcall in their Sentras, Honda Accords / Civics, Mazdas, Toyo Tacomas (surfing chicks), etc. The ones who aren't materialistic when it came to cars. I've seen man rolling up in beaters that get them from point a to point B. There were times some asked for a jump or tire change putting the donut on. I didn't mind.

Ok- so which one of yall is this? Got hos facebook profile pic of a thot giving him a hummer snapping a selfie in the car and enters a relationship with another chick?

Winner winner, chicken dinner. Please post some comments.

Let's use the Trap for something positive.

This girl Persuasion / Sangria / Rose is a devout scammer that has already ripped off one of our own and attempted to scam another, and attempted to bring her twirl to the UTR program.

We can try to shut her down Charlie Wenzel style.

Check out the comments about her in General Reports.