"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I am doing something wrong. LOL.

1. My skills are sub-par.

Or.

2. I live in the WRONG place.

Most girls on SA around me want online only or big bucks and wait to see how things go.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3147253]Almost pulled it off yesterday. Breakfast with POT 1 turned into a fun wild romp that had her squirt all over the bed. Lunch with POT 2 turned into a three-round marathon with me throwing her around like a rag doll, making her scream like crazy, and, yes, squirting all over the bed again. (Both were porn star level explosions too. That duvet is shot! POT 3 for happy hour seemed like it would turn into more fun, but I ran out of time and needed to get home. (Good decision because as it turned out there were issues on the home front.). So close. I have been flirting with retirement and this may be my way to go out on top.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3147394]You guys aren't hoping to expire while a 20-something is impaled upon you? I recall the wishes of Thurgood Marshall, Supreme Court justice, who wished to die by being shot dead at the age of 84 by a jealous husband. Actually, a quick google search took me to the actual quote:
"I expect to die at 110, shot by a jealous husband. ".[/QUOTE]If I can afford to bang a 20-something when I'm 84, I will also invest in the aforementioned plaque that honors my accomplishment to hang on the wall. Without a doubt I won't be able to pique their interest for anything beyond money (assuming I still have some at that point), thus will be ineligible for "dateable guy" discounts. If my retirement savings plus social security allows me to take a ride like that once a month and my dick is up to the task at that age I'll call it a win.

[QUOTE=EnzoAmore;3147691]I am doing something wrong. LOL.

1. My skills are sub-par.

Or.

2. I live in the WRONG place.

Most girls on SA around me want online only or big bucks and wait to see how things go.[/QUOTE]It has occurred to me that there are different bowl experiences depending on location. I look at some other cities' active threads, and those seem to be more like BP. I think in liberal SoCal, girls have a lot of exposure to sex, aren't hung up about it, and don't view the bowl as downright escorting. They have friends who have had arrangements they learn from, and it is expensive as hell to live here, so they have to do something.

A couple of qualifiers / notes:

1) I'm in the DC area.

2) all three were early 30's.

3) none were spinners but they were all objectively beautiful. Three distinct body types all with varying degree of curves.

4) first one actually didn't want or expect a gift. I was her first time doing this. But I have learned from my brethren that always better to give cash lest other things be expected. Second was 3, which was a little higher than I would have liked but I don't negotiate and it was a fair expectation. Not sure what the third would have been.

5) only popped once with the second. First was too wet. Second was as well but she let me get really rough and that flipped the switch. Honestly the neighbors might have thought I was attacking her.

I've heard this from someone else posting. The full moon or something is going on and making all these girls seek us out. I am getting all kinds of messages from POTs and other former SBs. I literally have 1 or 2 meets per day this week. How the heck am I going to get any work done?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3149390]I've heard this from someone else posting. The full moon or something is going on and making all these girls seek us out. I am getting all kinds of messages from POTs and other former SBs. I literally have 1 or 2 meets per day this week. How the heck am I going to get any work done?[/QUOTE]Lunar cycles rev up menstrual cycles and hormones. [URL]http://www.menstruation.com.au/periodpages/mooncycles.html[/URL].

One MILF I see only wants to fuck the week after her period when she is a total animal.

Trying to decide what to do w / this one and need other viewpoints. Posted on the LA thread (essence below) about InlandMILF. I'll PM her profile if anyone wants it. It says submissive.

"InlandMILF. M&G complete, great person, stable / reliable, wanted a lot, negotiated down to my usual, also offered to host (but is a half hour drive out of my usual zone. Tradeoff. Risk of exposure vs. Cost of room)".

My difficulty is that I had a past SB, ModelMILF, I had to travel out of my way to get to the FC. I was always paranoid something would happen when I was out of pocket that would cause the SO to wonder 'what were you doing there?' There were some other non-optimum features also that led me to quit her, and once I did it was a relief. I've mostly been fishing much closer to home. This gal actually reminds me a lot of ModelMILF. Is that alarm bells, to be gravitating to the same style baby? Others have observed that if a girl will meet you she almost certainly has already decided she will fuck you, at least at her price point. Yet, she wanted my photo again b / c she'd forgotten what I looked like (and my profile was down). Huh?

The desirable girls I've actually had the discussion w / have all started at 4 K / mo for allowance, but I just don't know who they think can pay that. Not most, certainly. I'm diplomatic and say ' some guys will pay that' or 'I can certainly see you getting that' but of course I won't / don't.

There's a news report of a hack at another 'adult dating' website (link below). Who knows what will happen to this info. Thankfully for those of us who use SA, its not that. However, it is always good to be cautious. I never have any actual photos of me or my other personal info on the site. I have things that are close that can't be directly tied to me and give any accurate info I might need to supply to a POT via email. I have posted a while ago that I had a very old Ashley Madison membership and after that hack was getting contacted both by extortionists as well as IT people at my work.

[URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/adult-dating-site-adultfriendfinder-hacked-400-million-user-accounts-stolen-october-2016-11[/URL]

I had read more than a few times about passing over Babies who have been on SA for a longer period of time, and I understand that. What about our profiles there? Do you guys make up a new profile after a while or just let it ride? While not super active on SA, I did sign up a few years ago. Have any of you ever gotten a comment from a Baby about the length of time since joining?

[QUOTE=MagicRat;3151689]I had read more than a few times about passing over Babies who have been on SA for a longer period of time, and I understand that. What about our profiles there? Do you guys make up a new profile after a while or just let it ride? While not super active on SA, I did sign up a few years ago. Have any of you ever gotten a comment from a Baby about the length of time since joining?[/QUOTE]Why worry about something that doesn't matter. Now if you want to update your profile that should be done. If I contact a girl who has been on awhile I ask why and they give various answers. I also ask if the profile is up to date. Most girls are there for help and really don't care how long you have been on. The few if any it bothers move on from. You provide the help in the amount that satisfy them they don't care.

Depends on what type of baby you are interested in. Escorts or UTR SB's don't care. Scammer's look for new naive SD's to prey on. Some Sb's like an SD with a proven track record of successful arrangements and feel assured you know what you are doing. Still other SB's may be concerned if you come across as too much of a player.

I personally use track record as a successful SD for me and the SB to my advantage. I've rarely had any concern, if at all.

[QUOTE=MagicRat;3151689]I had read more than a few times about passing over Babies who have been on SA for a longer period of time, and I understand that. What about our profiles there? Do you guys make up a new profile after a while or just let it ride? While not super active on SA, I did sign up a few years ago. Have any of you ever gotten a comment from a Baby about the length of time since joining?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MagicRat;3151689]I had read more than a few times about passing over Babies who have been on SA for a longer period of time, and I understand that. What about our profiles there? Do you guys make up a new profile after a while or just let it ride? While not super active on SA, I did sign up a few years ago. Have any of you ever gotten a comment from a Baby about the length of time since joining?[/QUOTE]To answer your specific question, no, but I've only been on since May. Personally, I'd think someone who has been on a long time is more likely to be UTR, which isn't my interest. I'll convey the thoughts of one famous SD who doesn't read this board, that a peak experience for him is breaking in the new young ones, so obviously, a long-ago joined date is a downer. I M&G w / a POT this morning who has a 2015 joined date. She had an arrangement from that of 8 months and was inactive, then got back on. I obviously did not mark her down for that. Seemed sincere, but of course she could be a sociopath and capable of lying through the teeth.

Good day, it's nice to see some of the old guys posting again. It would be nice to see what Big Tigger is up to these days.

I have a question my membership on SA is about to expire. I've been talking to a few females but they don't have premium membership.

I sent a message to them giving out my email address and phone number to contact me. Would they still be able to view my last message, if they don't log on before my membership expires?

[QUOTE=MagicRat;3151689]I had read more than a few times about passing over Babies who have been on SA for a longer period of time, and I understand that. What about our profiles there? Do you guys make up a new profile after a while or just let it ride? While not super active on SA, I did sign up a few years ago. Have any of you ever gotten a comment from a Baby about the length of time since joining?[/QUOTE]I would agree overall with Max's take here. I think it does not matter in the big scheme of things, because there will be some girls that consider prior SD experience a plus, then at the other end of the scale there are girls who will categorize you as a serial dater and dock you points for it or at least use it as leverage if they find a reason to become argumentative.

I always encourage anyone involved in online dating to keep the "tech-influenced natural selection effect" in mind. Everything from your profile (actual stats like your duration of membership as well as essays about yourself), to your photos (online or privately traded), to your individual conversations will determine what type of girls you meet, starting with which girls respond to you in the first place. For purposes of this post, that just means that if you've had an account for 3 years, most likely girls who have made up their mind they have a problem with an experienced SD are probably going to overlook you entirely and never meet you. Likewise, if you have a profile that's only a month old, there may be some girls who have had bad experiences with "fresh" SDs and prefer to avoid. It may be easy to forget this fact, as they might simply never respond to your first wink or note.

The consideration here is that it's easy to start believing that the girls you do meet do then, by definition, represent the entire population of girls out there, when nothing could be further from the truth (you're just not seeing the other types because who you are, or more specifically how you're representing yourself online, is selecting a certain type of girl and filtering out the others). The "selection" process can be avoided by having multiple profiles. I personally don't like the multiple profile approach and prefer to use the selection effect to my advantage. In the interest of time, I'd rather attract "good matches" that are likely to be what I'm looking for than to simply widen the pool of possibilities. Others might prefer the idea of casting a wider net by having multiple profiles and experimenting with the results. If I had unlimited opportunity / time / money to spend on the hobby I might be interested in the wider net.

I personally prefer to meet girls who have only recently discovered the bowl (when possible), so I tend to give a higher priority to newer profiles. However, I'm also aware that their profile creation date is not always the most accurate way to assess their experience. You might see a girl with a new profile, then ask her if she's had an SD before and maybe she says she's had several. Sometimes a new profile can be an indicator of a more experienced dater that likes to create new profiles, so it does not really indicate much by itself. The girl with the three year old profile may have been in an exclusive arrangement for 2. 5 years and is more of a fan of remembering passwords for previously inactive accounts than she is of retyping everything? So join date is somewhat of a meaningless indicator, left to its own.

So I have been chatting with this super cute cheerleader and how she has gone radio silent. If any of you have seen her hit me up on PM. Would love to know more about her.