Agreed, it's all about the long con.
I completely agree with JZLizard's comments. I feel you really have to start planting these seeds long term. Even before you have a baby, you should be slowly altering your schedule and / or working out, looking better, etc. Thus when you do have that PYT, there is no sudden change in behavior. Hell, even if you just sit in a parking lot for a bit while you are "doing an event" or such, it's setting that behavior up for later on. You have to think long term with these things. Start slow and small, slowly build. It's the sudden change that gets you caught. If it is taking money out of a noticeable account, start with smaller amounts. Say you had lunch, or some hobby that you use cash for. Save that money up for gifting or such. Enough drips in the sink with eventually overflow it. Nothing should be done spur of the moment. Slow and steady wins always. Quick and brash gets you busted.
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3135226]One of my favorite tricks (that should work to some degree for most brothers) is to pick some event in a city other than your hometown that you "need" to go to for an overnighter (without mentioning to the SO that the overnighter involves some 20 year old in your bed).
There are several components to this that are important to perfect execution. It doesn't have to be a perfect execution to get you laid without getting caught, but there are certain things you can do that make it almost bullet proof:
1. Invite your SO to go with you, but make sure the event is something she has zero interest in and make sure she already has a schedule conflict the day after that date before asking (I. E. Due to her normal work schedule or whatever). She's going to say she can't go and encourage you to go alone in most cases if you choose correctly. Think hard about something you have some remote interest in, but that bores her to tears (an industry conference she has no interest in? Sporting event? Concert for certain music genres she hates? She'll be happy to tell you to save the expense of two tickets because she can't go).
2. Choose an event that you can provide some proof of purchase for later. If you have no intention of actually attending the event, try to buy a ticket to something you can easily refund or sell, so that at least you have a printed ticket receipt to print out. If refunding or selling the ticket is not an option, just make sure it's a cheap enough expense that you don't mind eating the cost.
3. Leave indications of everything about the event laying where she can see them in advance but don't make it obvious (like leave them laying on your desk where she would find them if she's looking, but don't leave them on the coffee table in the living room).
4. If you do go to the event, make sure you purchase only one ticket, and don't take your SB with you to the event even if, for example, your SB is into sports and its her favorite team on the planet. It's just not worth the risk of being photographed with her by a PI that your wife hired. Knowing what event you are going to ahead of time is a private investigator's dream scenario.
5. Web based ticket sales make it easy to find candidate events in a given city or on a particular date. Usually you have to choose one of those two factors and work everything else around it, and that can at times be challenging. For example you might have an SB that you really want to see in Miami, and you really want to do it on November 1st, but as you look around the only event you can find on that date is some sports event that your SO knows you have little to no interest in. Don't do it. Either change the city or change the dates or change the SB. The other aspects of this trick, such as the cost of the hotel and / or event itself, make it not worth your time to introduce unnecessary risk. The lack of risk, the ease of verifying your story, and the overall believability is the only reason to pull this one in the first place.
Now, for bonus points.... if you're able to schedule all of this in such a way that it actually is an event that you do want to attend (or need to for work purposes), even better! Schedule your SB date after the event.
Also it should go without saying, but its important with any scam like this to be aware of surrounding circumstances. If you've recently started working out more, showing heightened interest in your appearance, spending more time alone on the computer/smartphone, coming home from work later etc., then going out of town for any reason is likely to be suspect. It's something that needs to be integrated into your lifestyle slowly and on an ongoing basis rather than something your read on a forum and spontaneously decide to try out.[/QUOTE]
Smile on my Face all week
Have to share, I met a 22 year old potential SB from SA Monday after work. She lives with her mother, so I had to drive by her house and pick her up. She is 5-8, slender, half asian and was dressed like I imagine she dresses like when she goes out on the weekends to hook up. Needlessmto say very hot.
I had planned to take her for a quick bite to eat to break the ice, but when I told her so her response was, " ok, if you are hungry. " My response was, so are you up to go to a hotel? 20 minutes later we were naked on the bed at the hotel and I was getting her warmed up. I have been with a lot of women but this one had the best body that I have ever seen. Her skills in bed were not great, but they can be improved as she is a willing student and I don't mind being the teacher.
Long story short, we left the hotel with no mention of sugar and she very happy with the sugar I gave her.
Worried about the wrong thing.
[QUOTE=Assaholic;3136175]Has anyone experimented with airbnb, versus hotels / motels? Are you likely to run into the owner (s) and possibly their kids on the way in or out (which would be kinda awkward)?[/QUOTE]Its only awkward if they know you. Otherwise, how would they know you aren't in town with your daughter looking at grad schools -- or if you are reasonably close in age, on a getaway date (touring the region, hence 1 night stay mid week).
You should never stay under the same roof as your hosts, so they won't know when you come and go, scream, not stay the night etc.
The bigger issue is the whole basis of AirBnB is for people to share experiences with their hosts / renters.
If they do hear screams of "fuck me in the ass, daddy" coming from the rentail in the middle of the day, you obviously don't stay the night and leave cum stained towels and sheets every where, its likely word will spread and you will be flagged as an undesireable renter.
If you think you need non-hotel accomodations regularly, you should seriously look into subletting an apartment.
My Two Cents, don't spend it all in one place!
[QUOTE=DrMcNaughty;3135618]Whats UTR? Thanks.[/QUOTE]While I was going to advise one to help themself using the "Give a man a fish and he eats today, teach a man to fish and he eats everyday" philosophy, I see that this common term is not defined in the Forum Abbreviations.
UTR = Under The Radar.
UTR, Term commonly used for girls who are pro / semi-pro but VERY discrete in their dating activities. We can start a debate on what is UTR and what isn't, but the point is they aren't the girls with adverts everywhere, not on BP and usually no website. But they ARE pro girls as opposed to SB as used in this context. I mean really the minutia we could get into in defining UTR. If a girl posts on CL once a month, takes her post down after a few hours and only sees a couple of regulars, is she disqualified because she "advertised" on CL? I mean seriously! See how much room for debate & opinion there is?
I guess we could have a debate of the difference between SBs and UTR girls. And that could drag on for many posts. Perhaps many think of SBs as "normal" college girls or post college girls with a job who are dating older guys for fun and Sugar. The Sugar isn't their main source of income (usually) and they have some level of selectivity and aren't doing every Tom, Dick & Harry that comes along because they need to pat rent, have money for kids school trip or get tires for the car. But then again, I suspect some kind gent here has a SB that he provides help for all of those things, so we can debate the difference there too!
Oops! Spoke too soon! I see that there IS a definition in the "Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ," post #2, [U]Definitions and Useful Info[/U]. Find this thread in the same "User Blog" section of the Richmond board, well below this one!
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2480291.
Rental Properties, Boats, Poker, Home Improvement
Couldn't agree with VA SAIL more.
Rentals are great because they provide for a whole host of opportunites. Need to fix the place up, so I've got to run to the home improvement store for a few hours, then got to fix the toilet. Cash for improvements are a perfect cover for withdrawals for a few 100. Did your tenants tell you that they're out of town and ask you to pick up their mail? Automatic fc spot. Just tell the baby you rented on air B&B, otherwise she will have a way to track you. In between tenants? Same deal. Free fc for a week or two. Realtors must have a field day with this.
Boats are great too. Young babies love being on the water in their bikinis. Get a boat with a cuddy cabin. Again, free fc. Bang on the boat. You can also "pack a picnic with wine" and watch your dating costs drop considerably as well. They say that boats are moneypits, but that's only if you're not using them to defray sugar costs. If you're rich enough to have a boat that has a full on cabin that's docked 40 minutes away, again, use that as a room. Tell your baby to meet you at the restaurant in a different Marina, to make sure she can't trace you back to your slip.
Another one of my favorites is the poker room. Tell your so you're going to the casino. Most SOs have no desire to sit for 5 hours of grinding on a table. Cash in 1000 in chips and take a picture of them on the table, with a message that you're up huge! Your so will be happy that you're coming back with money, then cash them back out, and spend the evening out with your baby.
Those are just a few of my favorites. But the rental property and boat are huge.
[QUOTE=Vasail;3135916]As noted, hobbies provide excellent excuses for hours or overnights. Invest in rental properties out of town. There were always problems that needed attention! If you want to go this route, I highly recommend a place in Myrtle Beach. If you are not an investor, consider it and go visit properties. Your SO would never want to look at a nasty prospective rental house.
Second, buy a boat. Boats always need work and SB's love to go out for a ride. Keep it way out of town. It also helps if your SO dislikes boating.[/QUOTE]
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Still going to hell, but having fun along the way
So October ended up being a real binge. My CL experience I wrote about before produced additional hits. 8 new women in the FC, and 2 that I repeated with. Here are 3 more, the bikini is a one and done great body but turned out to be a UTR, the other 2 are keepers, as is one whose pic I won't share. I have taken down the ad, will stay with these for a while.
1 week of txts to set the date and $$
[QUOTE=Assaholic;3136172]Nice! If We had a virtual bell here, I would ring it. Can you share the sugar $, ballpark, and what part of the country, and how long it took to close the deal?[/QUOTE]This is in the Maryland area, she is self listed as practical seems very pleased with the $$.
Next I need to get my 3 x your age card punched. My best so far is 2. 94, all over 18 of course.
