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Ok understood (ROFLOL) I did not give her STD Standard Tip for services provided.
VA
[QUOTE=Alpha D]Guy,
Careful with the abbreviations. Looks like you gave her eighty dollars and an STD.
If you're gonna use my style of alliteration (literary stylistic device that consists in repeating the same consonant sound at the beginning of several words in close succession) you gotta use in all of the categories - not most.
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[QUOTE=Aman Tuleev]Went here couple days ago.
Meet Loki - nice 35-38yo lady, 5'5", very slim with beautifull natural D-cups.
Some tatoos. Fast technical TS. Rather nice massage with followed flipover and standard finish. 3 jacksons for lack of enthusiasm.
Don't think that will return.[/QUOTE]
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I mostly agree. (Hadn't been there for awhile, but neighboring places had pushy hagglers, so went to PT hoping for new gal.) I thought she said Lucky not Loki, but whatever... I'd say average massage which was more her hands pressing down slowly, then moving to next area and slowly pressing down- I asked for medium-hard, but declined getting walked on; maybe that's way to go. When the fun started, I did enjoy both her sensuousness and the lack of the mood-killing haggling. Might've mentioned I had .6 - .8. Must've hot b/c clothes came off. Little more than standard finish. Great dirty talk was unexpected bonus. No problem finishing, w/enthusiam. Left .8 though I was tempted to leave .6, but would rather make friend than enemy for future, and I'm doing my part to stimulate local economy.
[QUOTE=Pilot Aviator]It was busier at the AMP than I expected. I almost walked away from the door as I rang and no one answered for some time. I only get by this establishment every month or two. And today, I called and stopped and had a really nice visit with Monica. Many things made this nice. Eventhough it was my first time to see her.
Monica is really petite. Less than 5 foot. Less than 100 pounds. Long luxurious black hair. Pretty face and all the rest is lovely. If she answers the door bell, expect a giant experience.
An extra long TS.
A good massage (dry with towels).
Excellent back-walk (like I said, less than 100 pounds. But she really knows how to use her toes.
If you have dry skin like me. A nice rub down with unscented very good quality lotion.
A fine dream.
A really non-rushed, relaxing visit.
For me. And extra almost 20 minutes longer than the hour I asked for.
Standard rates apply but, just like the better resturants, a standard tip is not the way to ensure the best service.
Arrival: 3/10 (they really need to get people inside with less delay. Standing the parking lot.
TS: 8. 5/10 plus and extra. 5. For the first time ever, my face, head and hair were also cleaned as part of the shower. Excellent sauna if you are interested
Massage: 8/10. Strong hands / good feet but the configuration of the room meant it was not easy for her to get to both sides of the table.
Dream: 9+/10
Departure: 8/10. with a nice few words from MMS who kept me inside for a minute while the parking lot cleared.
YMMV. Be nice to the ladies. Always
PA
PS. To the monger who arrived in their car while I was standing at the door. Thanks for waiting the extra couple of minutes for them to get me in and settled before you got out of your car and rang the bell. That was considerate of you. I think you may have drawn BeBe who is as pretty as has been described, tall and quite busty. I hope you enjoyed and were nice to her.. PLEASE POST![/QUOTE]
Sounds like you had a very pleasant experience!
Regarding the shower, for me, I really enjoy getting my head and hair washed. I do use my own comb to brush my hair afterwards.
I like the consideration the gentlemen give each other when it comes to "arriving at the same time". It's like we don't even notice each other and pretend we do not see each other ...and we wait until it is clear to enter. I think Most of the Experienced guys have this move down to a science!
I remember a very awkard situation when I was told to wait in an empty room and was surprised to find some other guy waiting in there also! I quickly ran out thinking it's not worth it! But I come back later that night when there was no WAITING!!
And yes, I agree...be nice to the ladies.
Benefits of being polite at an AMP: Recently I arrived and saw 3 cars parked in the 'usual suspect' slots near the AMP, and someone walking in just as was looking to park. I waited across the lot. Then a police car pulled in. Then was joined by another. Just talking to each other.but I wasn't about to park and head in. So I left, drove around and came back a bit later. Police gone, original 3 cars gone. And the monger I had seen earlier was exiting.
So just as I decide to park and go in. A pretty, younger gal walks across the parking lot (don't know where from) and headed inside.
I went in and there were 3 older women (who were getting ready to eat) and the younger gal who had just arrived. Who was assigned to me.
Pick of the litter. Sometimes it pays to wait.
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]This is a girl on girl escort service? From your prior posts, I gather you are female.[/QUOTE]That is funny.
Really? Without a condom? A working girl?
Seems a little far fetched and your behavior quite reckless for your own safety.
Leads me to believe it's not real.
[QUOTE=Bird Dropping]Face: 4 (50 y.o.)
Body: Skinny
Attitude/Service: The pictures tell the story
If you're not willing/able to trade cp vids of this lady, don't bother to PM[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rainmancometh]Really? Without a condom? A working girl?
Seems a little far fetched and your behavior quite reckless for your own safety.
Leads me to believe it's not real.[/QUOTE]
Rainman,
You obviously see through birddroppings. However, you might be well advised to spend your time investigating and report rather than bulking up your post count on chiding members senior to yourself - even if it is birdshit.
Jus a friendly reminder.
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Went to kings when it was snowy. thought it would be slow and it was. Shitty weather and roads. mamasan love me there. As soon as i walk in she say Sunny not here today but differnt girl. ok what ever. i was not gonna go anywhere else anyway. Got michelle who i did not like and reviewed before. Ok TS, GREAT massage.
What i did not like.. a few things. The massage while good was like going to G in herndon. Not sensual at all. Then she went on my back when she should not be. Her feet are rough as stone and she is heavy as shit. She asked for the flip and did standard.
Gave standard tip and she asked for .2 more. I just said NO, no. Not this guy. I know it was a slow day as I the only one there so far.
What I did like.. seniors can pm.
FYI No I would not want to see her again.
I've had pretty interesting encounters thanks to CL recently so I thought I'd call Yolanda who's got an ad there. Appt. Made with no fuss and no secrets with this home address on Kings Highway. It's an old house but spotlessly clean and she's got the best table I've been on.
I got a 1. 5 hr Sweedish for 1. 0 and she was pretty good at it. The room was nice and warm too. She's small, dark and from Columbia with an accent but no problem communicating. She didn't use any draping at all so I thought an HE was a sure thing. Nothing doing. She wouldn't touch it, even after I asked her and tried to put her hand there. She didn't mind that I rubbed her butt, but the girls were off limits.
She's quite nice though and didn't try milking me for tips, I guess since she didn't milk anything else. There is a shower with clean towels, again spotlessly clean, and I used it after we were done.
All in all, a good massage experience and I wish there were just a bit more. Yak
I had an Asian fever and wanted to try Papaya ( never been there before). Saw their ads on CL & BP ,said it was under new management. Was greeted by mms at the door and guess what?? she's from recently closed amp in Vienna. She was happy to see me there. My provider was jennifer and whole experience with her was so terrible. 10 minutes into the massage we started negociating price. She initially quoted 300. I started laughing hard and asked her what incredible service she was offering. After some time I stopped fucking around and told her I only got 110 in my wallet take it or leave it. She agreed but doing the deed didn't allow munching on the sushi bar or feeding. I got pissed off and just pounded her into oblivion. Keep on asking me if I'm done but I wanted my money's worth so I pounded hard until time was up. On the drive back I started feeling bad for treating the girl that way but I realized I was just mad.
I suggest you avoid Papaya.
[QUOTE=T Shell]Benefits of being polite at an AMP: Recently I arrived and saw 3 cars parked in the 'usual suspect' slots near the AMP, and someone walking in just as was looking to park. I waited across the lot. Then a police car pulled in. Then was joined by another. Just talking to each other. But I wasn't about to park and head in. So I left, drove around and came back a bit later. Police gone, original 3 cars gone. And the monger I had seen earlier was exiting.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the time about 6 months ago that I left Little River Spa on Evergreen and a cop pulled me over after turning left on Litle River Tpk. He told me that I had pulled in front of him in his lane (there are two left hand lanes). What he was more interested in was getting me to admit that I had come from the spa. I vaguely told him that I came from the office park and he pressed me again asking where in the office park I came from. I knew that he knew so I told him where. He proceeded to give me a lecture that they were watching the place and had closed it down before and I better be careful. I nodded, he gave me a warning ticket, but for some reason he did not scare me enough and I go there twice a month.
They have a new girl there now, I wanted Bonnie but they said she was on vacation (is that cryptic for she is gone and never coming back?). So I got Doobie, cute and petite, but no walking on the back subtracts points from her score. Everything else cool, along with some dirty talk where she tells me to come for her. Not a bad massage, decent ending, but not up to Bonnie standards. Funny thing I ran into one of the other girls who I used to see in the grocery store and we talked for two minutes and then went our ways. That was cool.
[QUOTE=Oldtar]I was in the area the other day so I thought I'd give Spa~Tao a try. Their ads on CL were interesting but I've never seen a review either here or on ********.com. First call: talked to a guy and said I wanted an appointment in an hour. He said call back in a half hour; they only make reservations 30 min in advance. [/QUOTE]If this place is in one of those newish apartment complexes with enclosed parking garages, wooden decks, etc and you had to go through a maze of garages and doors and hallways to get to this place AND its over in Fairfax close to 66 I might have bitten this hook once before, myself.
Pretty girls, and they can massage too, but thats about all they can do well (HJ sucks) unless you want to part with $$$. I guess my new rule of thumb is if you see a massage table instead of any other flat surface, expect a massage. Way better service anywhere else, but they seem to survive on that vagueness.
[QUOTE=Freedomfighter]I wanted Bonnie but they said she was on vacation (is that cryptic for she is gone and never coming back?). [/QUOTE]
Yes it means she is probably not coming back.
[QUOTE=Blue Star11]I got pissed off and just pounded her into oblivion. [/QUOTE]
This is a prime example of how NOT to "be nice to the ladies."
What favors do you think you did for the community? For her? For yourself? This was simply bad form. I don't care how bad you felt on the way home, your actions will most likely result in diminished services from this provider as well as their whole spa - long term. And God only knows the trauma you inflicted on the girl. You think she didn't know you were holding a grudge against her?
Do me a favor, BlueStar11, next time you get mad at a girl, pull out immediately and go home. If you're gonna beat on someone, do it to yourself.
And, as usuall in cases like this, this is not a discussion. An apology would be warranted but excuses and other B.S. will not be tollerated.
Thus endeth the lesson.
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[QUOTE=Alpha D]Do me a favor, BlueStar11, next time you get mad at a girl, pull out immediately and go home. If you're gonna beat on someone, do it to yourself.
[/QUOTE]If you look at his previous post, you'll find he got robbed and acted like a complete pussy. Seems like he's taking his insecurities out on girls who can't fight back.
I suggest you get anger management.........
[QUOTE=Blue Star11]I suggest you avoid Papaya.[/QUOTE]
I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists!
[QUOTE=Budge96]I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists![/QUOTE]99% of us know what "pounded" means in the context of this board. It is also clear from the narrative what went on in there. An AMP is no place for a one way grudgef***! BC
[QUOTE=Budge96]I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists![/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am not sure how anyone can miss-read that. He just decided to rail into her to increase his already ROI.
[QUOTE=Fatpig]Yeah, I am not sure how anyone can miss-read that. He just decided to rail into her to increase his already ROI.[/QUOTE]
EITHER way, he admitted in his own post he was having rougher sex with her because he was upset. That just is NOT COOL on any level at anytime. The next step if it escalates IS physical abuse/harm.
[QUOTE=Budge96]I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists![/QUOTE]
anger management.........
The mamasan here seems to have taken a liking to me (I think she used to be a provider there). Anyway, she set me up with Suzy, a decent looking K-girl in her thirties with a nice set of naturals. Overall, it was a pleasant experience.
Detailing - 7
Oil-Change - 8
Lube - 8
Tune-Up - 7
Test Drive - 8
Went back yesterday for another visit to relatively new place in Tysons. Advertises as "Tysons Well Being" and lately "Magic Touch Massage" (not to be confused with palce of similar name). Had one of the best experiences I've ever had in a NOVA AMP, thanks to April. A 20 something looker who took care of me. Unfortuantely she was leaving for a vacation, but indicated she will return in 1-2 weeks. Very nice body, young looking (what a suprise in a NOVA AMP), many other very attractive features. 8 house fee; then a $ tip for outstanding experience on all counts. Pm for details, definitely a repeat when she returns.
Work closed early, I was ahead of the snow and traffic so I went to K*** today since most likely we'll all be snowed in tomorrow (and our favorite AMPs will be closed).
I was the first (and perhaps only) customer today (Loo/Jenny/Jennie said they would likely close early).
I had not seen Loo/Jenny/Jennie in a year (I think it likely she went somewhere else and has returned). Her name was Loo in 2008 but in 2010 it is Jenny/Jennie.
<Jumping to the end of the story This was a really unusual experience based on my past visits because everything was "blah" except the back-walking which was excellent. More details below. But, for me, I'll ask for someone else next time.
Always be nice to the ladies. Even when the visit is blah.
PA
Details
Greeting: a blah "6. " I called ahead. I was expected. I was the first client of the day. There were no other clients during my visit. Loo/Jennie was not all that happy to say hello. Rushed me back to studio 7. Turned on the electric heating pad for the table, collected the house. 8 for the hour. No conversation, no hug. Did not remember I had been her client several times when last she was in this area (did not remember eventhough I called her by name and reminded her of mine)
TS: a blah "8-" TS was OK. But not really any enthusiasm, just a thorough wash. No conversation
Massage: a blah "7. " <Backwalk was a 9 lots of towels (some was good because it was chilly for a while, some were mostly just in the way)
Flip: a very blah experience (mechanical). Too bad because she is quite pretty. Fair of face (round face, very pretty eyes, brown hair curly/done up, probably 5'6", likely 115 pounds, more shapely than many. And I would have very much liked to have taken a scenic tour, but roaming was not really on the itinerary.
Sit up. Pound on neck, back, and sides. "Thank you all done"
Departure: 4. Shorted me on time by at 10 minutes, did not help me dress at all. I left only the standard tip and made no fuss.
F/B/A/S. 8/8-9/5/7
In retrospect, I think she may have had snow-day blahs and wanted the place closed today (and perhaps, like many of us, she just wanted a little time-off, and my visit was keeping her from enjoying the snow day).
Not often do I have reason to leave an "I was not very happy" report (sorry Angie). YMMV (and I hope it does). Enjoy your snow day
PA
Snowed in. Will take at least a full day for me to dig out.
Called two of my favorite AMPs.
No answer at one.
At the AMP closest to my residence, one of girls answered. Since I can walk to that location, I may hike up and shovel her walk and parking spaces when I finish my place.
Always be nice,
PA
Following a tip from a fellow member, I visited NSP today and had an excellent visit with Bebe. Bebe is 30 something, short, average build, with some nice curves (small waist, good butt). Table shower was thorough, maybe a bit hot, not very sensual. Massage was good to average. The finish was much better than I expected to find in NoVA. Afterward, Bebe spent a lot of time chatting and flirting which was also unexpected and a little flattering. House fee was 80 and I tipped 80, which Bebe appreciated.
Pika
Managed to get through the snow and try a new place for the first time.
Met at the top of the stairs by 30 something with a pretty smile. Led me through a large open area to a treatment room. Susie seemed friendly but stand-off-ish at the same time.
Off to TS which was poor at best. She left the curtain open so anyone could look in and had a hard time regulating the water temperature. Was thinking how I would explain 2nd degree burns on my back in the middle of a snow storm to my SO!!
Back to room and massage that was very mechanical. Roaming while she was at the head of the table allowed but response was uninspiring.
I was actually getting boared and thinking about things other than massage I should have been enjoying. Susie called for flip and asked if there was anything else that needed attention. She informed me that $60 could get the job done and I told her not today - she settled on normal fare.
Nothing in this visit was remarkable in any positive way.
Would not return.
NoFun
[QUOTE=Pilot Aviator]Snowed in. Will take at least a full day for me to dig out.
Called two of my favorite AMPs.
No answer at one.
At the AMP closest to my residence, one of girls answered. Since I can walk to that location, I may hike up and shovel her walk and parking spaces when I finish my place.
Always be nice,
PA[/QUOTE]
More Snow To Come Miday Today! Plan on another day of digging out. I was surprised to hear that some spas were open during this weather.
I like your idea of walking up to the spa and offering to help out the ladies with the snow. Very thoughtful of you.
Yesturday was snowday.
I read on CL something about Grand Opening. The facility is minutes off beltway and very close to my habitat. I decided to try.
Old Courthouse Rd, suite 140B, has private entrance from the back. Camera with infrared spotlight, which will get Your image even in long dark corridor, where entrance is located. Very small/old/ugly mamasan opened door, get me to large room and collected fee for one hour. I undressed. In about 5 minutes large korean girl appeared. She was in her 3X, with may be one inch of stucco on her face, and oversized boobs. They are huge! I was thanking god for giving me a chance to keep that atavisms in my hands. But ... first impression was very-very wrong. I did thing which I usually do with any new and unknown girl in AMP, I did try to do a little hug. It was working with all girls I ever met before, but not with her. She jumped of of me. 'What are you doing!' - she screamed on me .... Whaaaaa????!!!!
Her name is Michelle. Probably, I should to require my money back and to leave imediately. However, I had a little hope that it was just a little twist, and everything will go in good direction. She put me for 5 minutes to sauna after lighting fast TS. She bring me back on table, where I did attempt to get her hand. She was screaming on me on the mix of korean and bad english. Blaaahhh. I required all my money back. She start screaming that she did TS, and sauna, and massage for me and she can not return whole sum. At least I received half of fee back.
I went out of here exactly in 20 minutes after entering, with very bad feeling about that bawdy place.
The bottom line :
1) that is whole new facility, with fresh painting, large shower area and big sauna.
2) they are saving on electricity - it was very cold inside, you could feel it everywhere, especially after TS. That is very interesting, will they try to save money at summer time on conditioning?
3) I am still wondering, was her jugs real or artifical. Man, each are size of my head, and I will never know if they are real!
I'll never come here again.
In about 40 minutes was at Garden Spa, where everything was normal. Not best, but OK.
Stay safe,
Aman
Stopped by V&P Monday afternoon for the first time in a long time. Had a session with Yung (Young? Yong? couldn't really tell). All in all an average experience.
Facility:
*Cleanliness: Good.
*TS: Yes (they didn't have one last summer but have added it since.)
*Table: Reasonably well made and sturdy home-made table. Unlike the professional tables there's no head rest.
Girl:
*Looks: Average looks. Early 40s. Around 5'4" and probably 130. Natural B-cups but starting to sag a bit. Not fat but just average.
*Attitude: Friendly but tried to over-charge. No thank you I'm not paying $.2 for a standard NoVa. During TS she came right out and said that, unlike Sterling, in Chantilly they don't go beyond standard NoVa finish.
*Service: TS was weak with no attention on any sensitive spots. Massage was above average, but roaming was discouraged during massage. Finish was average for a standard NoVa, but didn't include kissing, lip service, or a full disrobe. Only groping above the waistline.
Summary: Might be worth seeing her if all I want is a massage. If I'm focused on the finish I'll look elsewhere.
Note: At the request of some fellow mongers I've not been reporting on my V&P experiences because they had apparently told people that they wanted to keep a low profile, and when they were delivering good service I wanted to help out. Now that they're providing fewer services than the other AMPs in the area, I don't see any reason to keep quiet about them.
PM me if you want more details.
[QUOTE=Oldtar]I was in the area the other day so I thought I'd give Spa~Tao a try. Their ads on CL were interesting but I've never seen a review either here or on ********.com. [/QUOTE]
I put up a review back in Nov that said 'stay away', but haven't heard about them since. Thanks for TOFTT and confirming that they're still not worth the trouble.
For the experienced seniors out there: Would you say that you can generally count on more reliable service from the AMPs than these private residences? Seems like if I get a craving for a massage+finish from a non-asian girl (like the asians, but variety is nice too) these private massagers are the only option.
Third time the charm I was hoping. I went there a few months ago before the change in management and it was horrible. This time greeted by the mamasan and led to the room. They have heat pads on the table. warm...nice. 25 minute wait. I was in no rush.
TS was a bit cold...no very cold. Need to fix that, but it was complete. She rushed becuase it was cold. The boys were getting icicles. In the room the massage was AMAZING. she did the feet, scalp, hands, face, all the spots. Nova finish.
I will go again. Best massage I got in a long long time.
Maya was the provider.
TOFFT....
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about this. First, took a long time to find the place, my GPS is a piece of crap. My six year old Magellan works better than this thing. I'm going to sell it.
Once I found the place, easy to get to my kind of parking, no problem. Walk in and meet mamasan, have a good conversation, she is a bit peeved because girl #2 of two walked out at noon because of Chinese new year. I won't say girl #1 because she was as old as mamasan. Body of 30ish woman but face of 50 year old. I just kept looking at the body and ignoring the face as much as possible.
Miki started a few days ago.
80 clams for an hour, should have known better and done the half hour, as they were strapped for attendants the buzzer was ringing like crazy. So, wait about ten minutes, then Miki comes in.
Quick TS, even faster massage, and then service.
Mamasan and Miki both apologized, but I got what I wanted, so it was all good.
Weird thing was when I walked out, there was a woman in an SUV who backed in to the parking lot, and was watching the entrance (and me) as I walked out. Didn't see her until I looked up. Either I'm in a butt load of hot water, or the guy that came in after me is, will find out shortly if its me or not I guess. She was defiantely staked out watching the place. Oh well.
I'm not sure how I feel about the whole ordeal. It was good, just the age thing bothers me a lot. Nice body, though...that was the dillemma. The shorted time didn't even bother me...
Anyway, even though well reviewed, still think I TOFFT!
Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSex
[QUOTE=Fun Sex]Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSex[/QUOTE]You're not going to find it.
[QUOTE=Fun Sex]Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSex[/QUOTE]
Most outcall girls in Tysons are not good at massage at all. In the Tysons area, you are a short drive away from 50 and 495, there are at least 3 independent Asian ladies working near the FFX Hospital Center.
I have seen 2 of the frequent advertisers and highly recommend both for they provide exactly what you asked for, except it is incall only.
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1600170516.html[/url]
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1598847111.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Most outcall girls in Tysons are not good at massage at all. In the Tysons area, you are a short drive away from 50 and 495, there are at least 3 independent Asian ladies working near the FFX Hospital Center.
I have seen 2 of the frequent advertisers and highly recommend both for they provide exactly what you asked for, except it is incall only.
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1600170516.html[/url]
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1598847111.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you for your help. Which one is cuter/prettier? Just for reference, do you know if they also provide FS?
[QUOTE=Fun Sex]Thank you for you help. Which one is cuter/prettier? Just for reference, do you know if they also provide FS?[/QUOTE]I wish there was a rule in here to stick with PMs or be more careful when asking about independents. They are nice ladies who shouldn't be put in a spotlight.
Does anyone know if this is the Miki that used to be at Soft Touch who went "on vacation" about a year or so ago?
[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]
Body of 30ish woman but face of 50 year old. I just kept looking at the body and ignoring the face as much as possible.
Miki started a few days ago.
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I just returned from a very nice session at the Pine Tree. Linda did an outstanding table shower followed by Toni and one of the best massage sessions to be had in NoVa.
Standrd NoVa prices of $80/$60 and standard NoVa services.
I will try to see her again.
JJ